This stuff isn't done out of "color blindness", it if was it would hardly ever happen, it's deliberate to make you angry and then seem like your anger is a result of racism
Like someone hitting you and then playing the victim when you hit them back
It was probably open casting given the specific medium.
You guys gotta remember that stage shows and broadway musicals are casted way differently than movies or shows because they expect that if it succeeds there will be multiple casts playing the same characters over and over.
So it's usually all "open casting" with different people of different races playing the same character in different casts unless it's a specific racial story (West Side Story, for instance)
From there, it's mostly that the outfit and exaggerated costume design of a stage character needs to be where things stay consistent because the actor is there for exaggerated mannerisms and vocal acting with their face being a less of a factor than movies which have close ups and audiences getting close looks at the face."
So in terms of a stage show, it's less that she has to look like "Betty Boop come to life!" and more that the costume has to be that with her moving in the ways that Betty does to bring life to said costume.
Maybe, but given the small but very powerful "betty boop is black" people. I'm not so sure. And broadway has been getting more into dumb racial politics.
In any case, she looks good enough. If she can sound like her, then all's good.
>They're only powerful in your head. The people who actually care to pay to go to musicals would not care if she was black or not.
The literati who make up the production and blogging and marketing side of the theatre scene, and will show this musical for black history month absolutely care.
PBS made this fricking claim and you dare try to say it's all in my head? What bullshit.
It was probably open casting given the specific medium.
You guys gotta remember that stage shows and broadway musicals are casted way differently than movies or shows because they expect that if it succeeds there will be multiple casts playing the same characters over and over.
So it's usually all "open casting" with different people of different races playing the same character in different casts unless it's a specific racial story (West Side Story, for instance)
From there, it's mostly that the outfit and exaggerated costume design of a stage character needs to be where things stay consistent because the actor is there for exaggerated mannerisms and vocal acting with their face being a less of a factor than movies which have close ups and audiences getting close looks at the face."
So in terms of a stage show, it's less that she has to look like "Betty Boop come to life!" and more that the costume has to be that with her moving in the ways that Betty does to bring life to said costume.
Also true.
I can only hope that she was a good fit rather than some political bs that these gays want to show how much of an ally to the black community they are.
Well if it is out of talent, I can't count on journos or morons online treating her like a sacred cow rather than treating her like a normal performer.
>make you angry
Who plays Betty Boop in a stage musical shouldn't be making anyone under the age of 70 upset. When's the last time you've seen a Betty Boop cartoon that you didn't have to go out of your way to view yourself?
>This stuff isn't done out of "color blindness", it if was it would hardly ever happen, it's deliberate to make you angry and then seem like your anger is a result of racism
This is some narcissistic bullshit.
Nobody cares enough about any of you gays to go out of their way to make you angry.
Mostly misinformation. Obviously there were some black performers like Esther Jones that embodied flapper aesthetic in the 20s, but Betty herself was modeled after a white performer. PBS tried to create drama and Fleischer’s family had to come out with indisputable proof so they backtracked and admitted to publishing a fake history timeline. Pretty disgusting.
https://www.pbs.org/publiceditor/blogs/pbs-public-editor/betty-oops/
99% of that is the classic Shaniquas "we was kangz"ing, and it's mainly because they perceive her hair to be some gross shit black women do with their hair
yeah, and black women today relax their hair and do things to copy white women
but like most things in the world, if a black person ever did it, then a black person invented it
It's over 90 percent bullshit, on par with most of what you see about the Tulsa riots.
Now the part that IS true is that there were similar black jazz singers, and that a lawsuit was filed on behalf of one who claimed to be boop's inspiration, but that's really as far as it goes.
Consider how black people are portrayed in cartoons of that era, and how big a deal coal black was.
Mostly misinformation. Obviously there were some black performers like Esther Jones that embodied flapper aesthetic in the 20s, but Betty herself was modeled after a white performer. PBS tried to create drama and Fleischer’s family had to come out with indisputable proof so they backtracked and admitted to publishing a fake history timeline. Pretty disgusting.
https://www.pbs.org/publiceditor/blogs/pbs-public-editor/betty-oops/
Good on PBS for actually admitting their shit was fabricated, but the fact that this got to air is disturbign.
>and that a lawsuit was filed on behalf of one who claimed to be boop's inspiration, but that's really as far as it goes.
yeah because female black jazz singers had a great chance of winning court cases in the 1920s
She was originally a poodle. Not that it's enough to stop obsessed race frickers like the dude who insisted gosalyn be brown, or the people who seriously debate whether goofy is black or not.
Come to think of it, it's a good thing Betty Boop wasn't seen as black except for recent activists or she would have been canceled for being blackface.
It unironically does, OP. Or at least it's a whole lot better than Halle "Eyes on the Sides of my Head" Bailey playing Ariel.
Either way, I could care less about who plays the Boopster as long as she looks, acts, and sounds the part. What I really want to know is if she'll be doing any lewd scenes.
I'm not sure why anyone would be upset with this since there's no emphasis on ethnicity in the original comic. Actress looks the part too. Great choice.
>musical
She’s cute. Can she do the classic Boop voice?
Anon, what do you think the main aspect of most Betty Boop cartoons are?
Cute.
Betty Boop always seemed either black or latina to me so I see no issue with this.
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>Seemed
The inside of your head isn't reality. She was obviously israeli.
I’ll allow it because it’s cute. Even though “black ownership of Betty” hilariously fell on its face a few years back.
This stuff isn't done out of "color blindness", it if was it would hardly ever happen, it's deliberate to make you angry and then seem like your anger is a result of racism
Like someone hitting you and then playing the victim when you hit them back
It was probably open casting given the specific medium.
You guys gotta remember that stage shows and broadway musicals are casted way differently than movies or shows because they expect that if it succeeds there will be multiple casts playing the same characters over and over.
So it's usually all "open casting" with different people of different races playing the same character in different casts unless it's a specific racial story (West Side Story, for instance)
From there, it's mostly that the outfit and exaggerated costume design of a stage character needs to be where things stay consistent because the actor is there for exaggerated mannerisms and vocal acting with their face being a less of a factor than movies which have close ups and audiences getting close looks at the face."
So in terms of a stage show, it's less that she has to look like "Betty Boop come to life!" and more that the costume has to be that with her moving in the ways that Betty does to bring life to said costume.
Maybe, but given the small but very powerful "betty boop is black" people. I'm not so sure. And broadway has been getting more into dumb racial politics.
In any case, she looks good enough. If she can sound like her, then all's good.
>very powerful
They're only powerful in your head. The people who actually care to pay to go to musicals would not care if she was black or not.
>They're only powerful in your head. The people who actually care to pay to go to musicals would not care if she was black or not.
The literati who make up the production and blogging and marketing side of the theatre scene, and will show this musical for black history month absolutely care.
PBS made this fricking claim and you dare try to say it's all in my head? What bullshit.
This is true
Also true.
I can only hope that she was a good fit rather than some political bs that these gays want to show how much of an ally to the black community they are.
They worked very hard on the hair, and the actress for her part is working her ass off getting the expressions down.
Well if it is out of talent, I can't count on journos or morons online treating her like a sacred cow rather than treating her like a normal performer.
I have learned it's futile. You can't stop people from being dumb bigots.
Oh, good way of putting it.
>make you angry
Who plays Betty Boop in a stage musical shouldn't be making anyone under the age of 70 upset. When's the last time you've seen a Betty Boop cartoon that you didn't have to go out of your way to view yourself?
no one under the age of 70 would watch a Betty Boop musical so they're making their whole audience angry
>This stuff isn't done out of "color blindness", it if was it would hardly ever happen, it's deliberate to make you angry and then seem like your anger is a result of racism
This is some narcissistic bullshit.
Nobody cares enough about any of you gays to go out of their way to make you angry.
Why does the media constantly cry about us then?
Yeah, these were the real inspiration behind Betty Boop.
Controversy brings publicity.
looks actually great, no complain here
Didn't ask
kys
Is it true Betty Boop was originally inspired by a black woman or was that misinformation
It's 2023. Nothing is true except for the things you want to be true.
Mostly misinformation. Obviously there were some black performers like Esther Jones that embodied flapper aesthetic in the 20s, but Betty herself was modeled after a white performer. PBS tried to create drama and Fleischer’s family had to come out with indisputable proof so they backtracked and admitted to publishing a fake history timeline. Pretty disgusting.
https://www.pbs.org/publiceditor/blogs/pbs-public-editor/betty-oops/
We wuz boops n shiet
99% of that is the classic Shaniquas "we was kangz"ing, and it's mainly because they perceive her hair to be some gross shit black women do with their hair
To be fair, fashionable black women of that era DID do that to their hair, which was a copy of white people.
yeah, and black women today relax their hair and do things to copy white women
but like most things in the world, if a black person ever did it, then a black person invented it
Pretty sure she was inspired by Helen Kane
mostly misinformation
It's over 90 percent bullshit, on par with most of what you see about the Tulsa riots.
Now the part that IS true is that there were similar black jazz singers, and that a lawsuit was filed on behalf of one who claimed to be boop's inspiration, but that's really as far as it goes.
Consider how black people are portrayed in cartoons of that era, and how big a deal coal black was.
Good on PBS for actually admitting their shit was fabricated, but the fact that this got to air is disturbign.
Looks good enough. Does she sound right?
>and that a lawsuit was filed on behalf of one who claimed to be boop's inspiration, but that's really as far as it goes.
yeah because female black jazz singers had a great chance of winning court cases in the 1920s
Be less of a racist bigot anon. Pull up the trial evidence. Show Esther Jones in 1931 or so and compare her to Betty Boop of 1931
Also check the audience.
i thought betty boop was a dog originally?
It would be tragic hilariously that they chose her simply because she was black and didn't care if she could sing or not.
She was originally a poodle. Not that it's enough to stop obsessed race frickers like the dude who insisted gosalyn be brown, or the people who seriously debate whether goofy is black or not.
Anon...there are black people who can both sing and act on Broadway, you know that right?
There are also white people that can do it, too.
Yknow what, considering the time period of black musicals and dancers, this seems appropriate and I won't take issue with it.
Cool source, homosexual.
QT!
>not Ruth Negga
Bullshit. They got the wrong black woman.
She's actually cute and has some of that Betty Boop energy.
I mean, you're here promoting it for free, so yes, perfect casting.
is bimbo going to be in this or are they going to use his gay replacement
Your bigotry belongs in either reddit or pol.
Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs musical when?
Betty Boop was deeply rooted in 30s r&b culture
NPR lied, innocents cried.
Anyone still cares about Betty Boop?
In this century?
Come to think of it, it's a good thing Betty Boop wasn't seen as black except for recent activists or she would have been canceled for being blackface.
Japan does.
She won Ms. Cinemaphile in 2021
>Musical
Sure can't wait to get angry over a 480p camrip.
It unironically does, OP. Or at least it's a whole lot better than Halle "Eyes on the Sides of my Head" Bailey playing Ariel.
Either way, I could care less about who plays the Boopster as long as she looks, acts, and sounds the part. What I really want to know is if she'll be doing any lewd scenes.
She's a mermaid, anon, and you DIDN'T want her to have fish eyes?
I'm not sure why anyone would be upset with this since there's no emphasis on ethnicity in the original comic. Actress looks the part too. Great choice.
Who's going to play him, though?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/biEP2PlWOqI
>actress actually look cute
I’ll let it slide
wasnt betty boop israeli?
Isn't he just balding, there's a little hair on the top of his scalp.
Oops.
Why is she black?
She feels like Betty Boop, which is way more than I could hope for in this era. It's fine.