Why Gandalf become lame after he became “Gandalf the White”?
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Why Gandalf become lame after he became “Gandalf the White”?
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What do you mean?
gandalf the white was sent back after death by god with a specific mission in mind (helping men save middle earth), also inheriting the colour that saruman (formely white) had abandoned
gandalf the grey had no divine quota to meet so was free to irl shitpost and smoke weed with hobbits and thats why he was cooler
Gandalf was sent with a mission from the very start. All five wizards were sent off from valinor with the same mission and only gandalf succeeded
I never liked that conclusion, I prefer the one where Tolkien believes they all succeeded in different ways except Saruman. Blue wizards undermine Saurons influence in the East and Radagast safeguards the forests and beasts of Earth against evil
I do prefer the second conclusion as well, but I’m not sure that’s what Tolkien intended. I can’t remember if it’s in Unfinished Tales, Lost Tales, in an appendix or in one of his letters but Tolkien basically says that Gandalf was the only wizard to return to Valinor. Radagast straight up disappeared, and his disappearance is never explained. Tolkien implied that the blue wizards abandoned their tasks and started cults centered around magic. That’s not to say that they didn’t help in the fight against Sauron in one way or another, or that they turned to evil like Saruman, but got sidetracked by other things.
I was under the impression that he was rather undecided about it, in the same way he wasn't entirely certain of the orcs origin. In any case, in one of his manuscripts in the last book of The History of Middle-Earth he writes that the blue wizards came from Valinor in the Second Age, same time as Glorfindel. Which is like a full 2841 years before the rest of the wizards were sent
>They must have had very great influence on the history of the Second Age and Third Age in weakening and disarraying the forces of East ... who would both in the Second Age and Third Age otherwise have ... outnumbered the West
God I love these books
He was undecided about a lot of things. Unfortunately he died before he was truly finished, but some things, like where orcs go when they die, he would never have decided on.
I take his writings on the blue wizards to mean that early on they did have a big influence on weakening Sauron’s hold on the Easterlings but that by the time of the events of LOTR they had abandoned their duties.
From Gandalf's point of view he didn't just fall asleep on Redhorn and then wake up in the woods. He spent a lot of time outside the physical realm, and by the time he resurfaced in Fangorn he didn't even remember he went by the name Gandalf. He just changed a little and became more of a hardass.
Gandalf had that mission from the first time he was sent to Middle Earth.
He didn't since there was nothing really to save it from for millenia. Gandalf was shocked to hear Sauron had returned and now an urgent need for his mission to change. His original mission was just to go around to the various leaders and peoples offering guidance and counsel.
Gandalf knew Sauron was never really gone as long as the Ring endured. He was sent specifically to counteract his influence.
Nah, he had forgotten all about the one ring. Took him a ton of time researching to remember about it.
What is everyone’s opinion on Gandalf? Grey and White.
Grey, okay.
White, alright.
hahaha, ebonics in a medieval fantasy setting is so incongruous that the only outcome can be hilarity.
Supposedly, Allatar was comparable in might to Saruman.
>takes the other blue wizard, fricks off and goes east
>they completely forget their mission and are never heard from again
why'd they do it?
Humiliation ritual
Either they got corrupted or they are doing shit off in the East. Most of Tolkien's work take place in a relatively small area of Middle Earth
I just wonder what sidetracked them
honestly I couldn't take him seriously again after this burn
>get sent on a business trip
>supposed to bring an underperforming branch back up to speed
>mostly just wander around
>smoke weed every day
>build pipe bombs and shit for fun
>everyone else on your team is a frick up
>one dude joins the competition even though he signed an NDA
>another dude is working remote from some cabin and barely ever responds on slack
>two dudes just straight up go AWOL and are never heard from again
>corporate pulls you in for high level meeting
>CEO is pissed
>quarterly goals are at risk
>makes you team lead, says it's on you to fix this shit
>frick frick frick
SARUMAN THE STINKY
hey
shut the FRICK up
SARUMAN THE BLINKY
GIBBETS AND CROWS
>Literally named Sauronman
>Gandalf the Fool couldn't be more shocked Sauronman was one of Sauron's mans
Radagast the Bird-Tamer!
Radagast the FOOL!
>i will break him
>i am not man
>the eye of the enemy is moving
>at last, the great battle of our age
>the age of men is over
the rotk is not very good, there's just too much wooden and memetic lines and deliveries. borderline parodic
>you and what army?
>....this army
can't believe they actually did this
>"One last thing Mithrandir: If you encounter a Balrog, kamikaze-dive him off a cliff. Trust me, works every time."
-Glorfindel, minutes before the departure of the Fellowship.