Based.
It's going to break even with pvod and svod.
SonyCHADs can't stop winning, meaning The Marvels super flopped loL!
SSU > MCU!
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MADAME WEB earned $49.1M on its worldwide box office opening weekend on a $80M budget.
80 million seems like a small budget considering how much cg is in superhero movies.
It used to get cheap due to studios outsourcing to India and China for shitty mobile game looking CG. Now it'll probably get even cheaper due to AI. Peak CGI talent and skill was in Pirates of Caribbean 2 before shitty outsourcing and having actually talented animators with a lot of time.
It looks really really shitty. Even moreso than thr average MCU garbage.
It doesn't look very good except for a few sequences. But it doesn't matter because Johnson is playing 4D chess with her acting and that automatically makes it more watchable than most Marvel trash.
Elaborate
80 million only to make a piece of shit? AI couldn't come sooner
AI will just make things worse and big production companies will just abuse the shit out of it
>and big production companies will just abuse the shit out of it
They won't get nearly as much out of AI as your random arteur or coomer.
Seems to be the Sony way now. Morbius had more of less the same budget. So it's a case of, "Spend as little as possible, ride on whatever is left of the marvel wave, and hope it crosses the smaller threshold into profit"
I'm guessing they didn't have to pay the actors all that much. I wouldn't doubt Brie got 3x what all 4 actresses got combined.
It looks CGI heavy in the trailer, but I wouldn't doubt 75% of the movie is them walking around NYC, talking at a cafe, apartment or something.
>80 million seems like a small budget considering how much cg is in superhero movies.
Theres barely any CGI in this movie. Its mostly just the girls and Dakota running around and the bad villain jumping on cars. Too much generic human drama and talking.
No way it costed 80
Maybe 120 M including the obnoxious ads
There isn't that much in this. It's basically just a chase thriller.
The Creator cost 80mil.
What kind of cretin would ever call himself a "Sonychad"?
Chad Warden
Chad Warden. His first name is literally 'Chad'.
you haven't heard of the extravagant marketing budget.
It was only about 30 million dollars, confirmed by industry insider on an earlier thread here. They knew they had a turkey and kept costs down.
So roughly 160 million they need to break even. It only made 50 million on opening weekend. What’s it gonna drop on the second weekend? 70-80% ? This isn’t breaking even
>So roughly 160 million they need to break even
>source: my /misc/ meme math
They don't get 100% of the box office takings, genius. Cinemas and international distributors don't screen movies for free.
Standard for Hollywood movies for the last 20 years has been
Marketing budget ≈ Production budget
If you spend $80M on production, odds are you spend about $80M on marketing, which means you need $160M to break even.
ur dumb. 2(80+80)=320
$320 million if they really spent $80m on marketing...which I doubt. they get half of ticket sales.
Theaters screen movies for free? That's so nice of them.
$160 is on the low end of the prediction, they have to give money to the movie theaters, and they get less from overseas, on top of that the marketing budget is not factored in to the $80 million.
True, but Pepsi likely covered a significant portion of the marketing and possibly the budget.
Pepsi seems determined to be "coke but shit" attaching themselves to dreck like this isn't helping
It's wild how much they are in this movie. The way she holds a mountain dew and then later a pepsi. The entire neon sign sequence. When the girls joke about jerking off with a glass pepsi bottle in the hotel room I was like.... wtf is this movie.
moron detected
You think theaters show movies for free?
>DOuble the investment cost means theater neither get paid up front nor taking a cut from every ticket sold... not to mention the absurd profit from food/drink/etc sales.
This guy thinks food magically shows up out of nowhere in his grocery stores
It doesn't?
I don't want to sound like a /misc/tard but I keep noticing that morons always have this unique look in ther eyes
Black person logic
Why are you so obsessed with "/pol/"?
Kek why are troons so low IQ?
10/10 brainlet cope
>if I don't like the math then it's /misc/ fault
Which capeshit bombing hurt you?
Is this “/pol/“ in the room with us right now?
>redditor's understanding of box office
Guesstimated $49 million over 4 day weekend, W O R L D W I D E, final numbers will be telling
More like $240 to $320, not $80. BO doesn't go 100% to Studio - even less International, plus Advertising costs
>More like $240 to $320, not $80. BO doesn't go 100% to Studio - even less International, plus Advertising costs
kek you /misc/tards are way too invested in whether or not superhero movies succeed or not.
>it's going to bomb, I can't wait!
Makes $50 million opening weekend on an $80M budget.
>No no no they must of spent the entire budget again on marketing, still a failure!
>$160 million no way, at least $240 to $320 million!
>Remember the theaters get their cut!
>A billion just to break even!
>It's still a failure! It is!
>this much cope over numerous anons shitting on you
I get it's upsetting but you can just turn Cinemaphile off bro
imagine being so ignorant you think studios recieve 100% of the income in spite of numerous directors stating otherwise just what you think is a bigot (IE some Black person slightly less ignorant than you) was the one that tried to learn you
>pinko in charge of understanding basic economics
Every time.
2.5x production to break even. It needs $200m, which it won't get
160 is purely on the movie budget side. It'll be more like 200 with the marketing. And that 49 mil is from a Six Day Opening Weekend™, so it'll maybe see 150 mil in a best case scenario- a relatively minor flop.
Order the helium, moronic shill.
>so it'll maybe see 150 mil in a best case scenario
Nah dude. No way this dogshit does 3x it's opening. Capeshit is the most front loaded genre
It will hit 80 mill max. It couldn't even pull 30 mill in over Valentine's and President's domestically
The studio traditionally only takes 50% box office, so according to this approx. number they only took in about 25M.
IF the movie was 80M + 80M marketing then they need $320M to break even.
This is highly speculative. Film budgets vary wildly as well as they make different deals to cover costs. Like Mercedes had to pay universal a premium because Jurassic World did so well at the box office. Essentially Universal charged Mercedes like it was a commercial airing on TV and they owed an amount relative to the viewership.
If hollywood couldn't release box office bombs, they would have disappeared a long time ago.
there was a Mercedes in jurassic park?
world, not park and yes. Big time cross promotional tie-in.
BTW the Mercedes cross-promotion in Jurrasic World was rumored to be only $10M, a large scale ad-placement deal in a huge movie whose budget was estimated north of $200M.
This is not true. It's a complete guess based on other similar deals, but it doesn't include all the details, like what costs Mercedes would pay to cover it ect. They likely also had to pay for everyday or shooting that included the vehicle and we know there's premium surcharges for higher market penetration. It was more likely 20m as well as covering marketing/advertising costs for the film outside of NBC/Universal air times.
This. Man of Steel was completely paid for before it even came out thanks to product placement and deals with the army
That's why I said, "traditionally: approx." and "IF".
True, we don't know the exact numbers but, yes, traditionally 50% went to the studio (the reply was to post that factored in the studio gets all the box office). Foreign markets even get better cuts in some cases which is why the 2.5X total budget usually gets thrown around for a return,
I am not aware of any significant endorsement deal that this movie has to offset costs (like Jurassic World or other huger blockbusters), are you?
That number is wrong btw.
It's 51.5 million and the weekend beat the pre-weekend estimate, probably from word of mouth on how good-bad it is and how Dakota's performance is in a different dimension from the rest of the cast.
https://deadline.com/2024/02/box-office-bob-marley-one-love-madame-web-1235828289/
>pvod
Pulmonary veno-occlusive disease ?
>svod
Subscription Video on Demand
No.
Jesus.
>break even is a goal
kek
Theaters take half, so you have to make double your budget to break even. There's next to no DVD/after market sales these days either, so it's not going to break even, it's going to be a loss.
my point dumbass is that no fricking sane company sets a target to break even, why even bother doing that shit in the first place if your goal is just to get back the same money that you put in?
You are being overly aggressive for having someone reply to your comment, reminds me to donate to an autism foundation.
Our indie production company does. Film breaks even, investors get their money back. We made a film we wanted to make and got paid our salaries as part of the budget.
Yes but anon were talking about Sony here, not some small production house comprised of two guys, a copy machine and a dream.
And we’re not talking about a lovingly made passion project a studio is ok losing money on because of the prestige it adds to the brand and everyone’s work history, we’re talking about madame web
Lots of gooners in this world.
>Girlboss action film meant for women
>Majority male audience
Every time. Nothing keeps them away.
Why would it in this case? Dakota and Sydney don't lecture or blame men for looking at them.
Nah. It's 51.5 right now according to the deadline article and it still hasn't opened in several markets like China. Argylle is the movie that won't make 100 M.
51m is the week ww. It won’t.
>we gaan
>break even
>implying they'll reach 160 mil
Another flop. It will drop down to maybe 12 mil at the box office as time moves forward. They probably wont even reach the production budget let alone the marketing one
So they have to make about 250 million or so to break even
since the Box office gets around half of the money
Sweeney saved the movie
Campkino!
Morbius opened to $84 Million worldwide and barely 2x that. This is guaranteed <$100 million WW.
nice larp math,
is that way
Did anyone see it twice?
are we still stuck on comparing box office with production budget?
you need to compare theatrical rentals with overall budget
Bait thread or moron who doesn't understand box office returns.
It's a new kind of marvel movie that must be seen in the big screen. 9.5/10
Of course its bait bro and the dumb browns here fell for it as always
okay shills
sell it to me
Dakota bros, Moner bros, Sweeney bros
with the power of coom we can turn this cape slop into a hit
i only want this movie to succeed so moner will be offered lots of roles
what a waste of a sexy cast
Madame Webbers... we won.
On the road to a SydneySweenillion dollars.
Should I go see this tonight? I don't have to work tomorrow and have the energy to do something. I have a weakness for comic book movies because I'm an old comic book reader and remember when we only would get one decent movie every few years.
However, I broke my streak with Aquaman 2 and this looks just as bad.
Aquaman 2 is Kurosawa compared to this
Watch The Beekeeper.
I saw the Beekeeper the first day it was out. I really liked it. I've been trying to get some friends to watch it, and slowly they are coming around.
Damn! I had a better feeling about Aquaman 2 than this, that's for sure. At least that is a 1st level DC character. Madame Web is a tertiary level Marvel character, at best.
this isn't even a superhero movie, it's more like a weird no-gore remake of Final Destination
it's truly bizarre
best moment: she realizes she can see POSSIBLE futures, so she checks out the version of the future where the villain tells her his plan and motivation without it really having to happen, kek
I think it's a really fun bad movie but a lot of your mileage depends on whether Dakota works for you as an actress. She does for me so I loved how weird and disconnected her performance was.
I honestly can't stand her and I've never actually watched her acting outside of trailers.
it only made money because it’s a holiday weekend and there’s really nothing else worth seeing. it will have a massive drop next week.
Cinemaphile should be tooting for this movie since we need more pretty women in films. Frick you homosexuals.
I'd rather watch Hollywood collapse in on itself though.
>simp with me guys, let's all get hard wieners together
>y-you f-homosexuals
I will never support a coalburning movie.
>SSU
I think you mean SPUMC (Sony Pictures Universe of Marvel Characters).
Did you shoot your webs today, Anon?
i find it hilarious that critics completely shat on this flick and their female leads, but when a mc flick comes out theyre quick to kiss its ass and label naysayers as racist if you dont like it. its bonkers. but im glad the marvels is a bigger flop than this
Disney pays better.
At least Sony can sigh in relief of the movie being cheap for a superhero movie.
The MCU is a moneypit now. $500M diversity slop productions that will only ever fail. The israeli tricks in play to protect the Disney board from facing liability for this total abandonment of financial responsibility must be truly extraordinary
Very nice but this isn't MCU
No, it's the company responsible for Morbius who everyone says is doing worse than the MCU when they clearly are not
Why did she do it, bros?
When John Hamm out of all people thinks you're acting like an butthole you've clearly crossed the state lines.
It's funny because it's like she's sitting in between mom & dad, and mom won't stop teasing her.
It's not that bad and she really pulled the mommy vibe
guys it needs ~200 millies to break even according to rule of thumb
EITHER
>2.5 x production cost
OR
>1.8 x (production + marketing)
depending on which rule of thumb you choose
Come watch the stream cucks. Its kino.
twitch madameweb247
>pvod and svod.
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Why are people so hesitant to accept the fact that the Sony spiderman universe is now more successful than the MCU?
This movie is going to make a Webillion dollars mark my words.
um, MADAMESISTERS?!?!?!