I love Diamonds are Forever - both the song and movie. Yeah, it's a shitty follow up to OHMSS but it's so... Fun, I don't know. I've always had a soft spot for it.
It was a great and well-done Bond film. I've never understood how on earth OHMSS has gotten such a good revisionist rap in the last few years. It was drought nonsense that commited the mother of Bond sins which is to have him be married and then Graig doubled down on it and made him a gay and then die but still. No movie with Connery as Bond is bad. I think Connery, Dalton and Brosnan are the only good Bond actors. I never liked Moore, however comfy his movies are.
Goldeneye and You Know My Name because I was a massive Soundgarden fan and Goldeneye and Pierce were my introduction to Bond. Looking back, Graig was the worst Bond. One great film and the rest are absolute dogshit with woke elements, although not as bad as most other franchises.
Dubs and it's Nolan and Cavill
I heard some guy on Twitter who's a film scooper say Cavill's got the part for some time now. Hence the deal with Amazon and why he's doing the Warhammer show. Amazon owns James Bond rights, btw.
>Looking back, Graig was the worst Bond. One great film and the rest are absolute dogshit
I bought the anniversary edition. Each movie came with a second DVD that had a whole bunch of extras.
If you're not a Bond fan, all of the Bond movies are dogshit. It's very hard to recommend a Bond movie to an outsider to show them why you like it. All of them are stuck in the decade they were released in.
So Bond fans: if you only had one shot at showing an outsider a Bond movie. To convince him.
I showed my brother 'Goldeneye'. We watched it together. I thought it was money in the bank. He was bored. Fricking shitting all over my childhood right there.
And what's so bad about that? I think Bond's the perfect movie franchise for one reason. Normies love it for that action movie fix whenever one comes out and the turbo autists (like myself) obsess over it and both pay up to see it. Hence why it's still so monolithic He probably wanted to watch TikTok or somethings. Bond is the man's man of franchises. The ultimate male fantasy but can't expect everyone to appreciate that.
I raised my four cousins on Michael Jackson. Fame is very fleeting. I watched one Elvis Presley movie. You ask any kid today who Elvis Presley, James Brown, Muhammed Ali, Buzz Aldrin, Sean Connery, Arnold Shwarzenegger, etc. are. They would look at you like you're a mental patient. I work in a place that sells clothing, in Europe. Jordan sells like hotcakes. I wonder if they even know who Michael Jordan was.
Really. I might have to buy some stock in Jordan's. It's not the shoes. It's the shirts. Well, shoes too. I'm thinking: "Who the frick is buying all these?". Dude's low key a magnate.
If it's any consolation, the problem with Goldeneye isn't that it's boring, but rather inaccessable to many normies. It's the dialogue. It doesn't use exposition like other films. It expects you to read the room. It's a little too clever for its own good. Should've introduced him to Tomorrow Never Dies or Casino Royale.
>I showed my brother 'Goldeneye'.
I rewatched Goldeneye recently.
I like how you have this big feminist speech from M calling Bond a dinosaur. A bit more of it from Moneypenny. Then the fricking female villain is called Xenia Onatopp and likes to get on top of men to frick them to death or kill them while orgasming.
It isn't a speech. It's one or two buzzwords as a insecure defense for Bond doubting her and being slightly antagonistic to her appointment as M but she tells Bond to come back alive with a smile on her face thus showing she still values and holds affection for him despite what she said. She never was this cold to Bond in the other movies and she dropped this act in the very same scene. Also, Moneypenny was just as obsessed with James as any other version and the sexual harassment line was just to set up the very next quip that his penalty for it is finally sleeping with Moneypenny to 'make good on his innuendos'. By today's standards, this is un-woke as hell. Xenia was easily the hottest Bond girl. Pure sex appeal. Her in the scene at the sauna makes me diamonds. Great idea for a Bond movie. Goldeneye was perfect.
>If you're not a Bond fan, all of the Bond movies are dogshit. It's very hard to recommend a Bond movie to an outsider to show them why you like it. All of them are stuck in the decade they were released in.
I find that Bond fans tend to be the only movie series fans who like most of the films (barring some people's thoughts on Craig). The other year they showed a bond movie a week at the cinema and I went and saw every single one on the big screen. Are there some films better than others? Sure. But I genuinely just enjoy a Bond film.
I think this too, but I didn't dislike it. And if somebody says they think FRWL is the best, I can respect that. They want a more stripped-down, restrained take on Bond. FRWL has no gimmicks.
It won't be Cavill, he's too old and famous. They've never cast a super well established actor for the part and they already said they are looking for someone in their early 30's
>they are looking for someone in their early 30's
Probably a gay Black person
I wonder what singer they'll get for the new one. There's not a single great one out there. Let me guess, Ice Spice? Pshh. We already had the abomination that zoomer druggie Billie Eilish sang that was a complete dreck. Arctic Monkeys were rumoured for a long while.They did a cover of DAF and it's great.
Is it not know by now Nolan can't direct action for shit. Danny Boyle would've been a great director for a Bond movie. That action scene in Trainspotting 2 where Sickboy and Renton were fighting proves it. It was because of that scene he was in the running for a while. I'd be more excited about watching a Bond movie directed by Boyle than I'd be looking at the prospects of watching a Bond movie directed by Nolan. Nolan would not be up to the task.
I like Nolan and think he'd do a good job (better than most for sure) but Boyle would be excellent as you mentioned, so long as Cavill is chosen and the story is great. I do wonder, who else could hack it? For my money, why not get this guy who did the John Wick movies?
billie eilish is gr8 tho and i usually hate modern music, whatever label's controlling her is clearly pushing the whole broad appeal factor, plus the bond theme she sang was very lounge-like so it's not like she's for zoomers only
t. 30yo
You could argue that all of them were abject dogshit after Casino Royale but I liked Skyfall, at least most of it. All I'm saying is that you could say nothing after 2006 was good and still be right.
Nolan yes, Cavil please no. And frick off with this meme. You cavil stans are a very loud fringe minority. He's objectively a terrible actor with zero range or charisma and that's why he's not in anything anymore. Plus he's too old to be signing up for a 10-15 year run anyways, that tiny handed man is pushing 50
Like Man from UNCLE, which Cavill also starred in. It was a 60's period piece in modern times done perfectly. Oppenheimer proved period pieces can still make insane money.
I wouldn't mind seeing some book accurate Bond made as a mini series or something but I always believe that the main Bond movies should exist as little time capsules of what was popular at the time for future generations to enjoy. The period thing would ruin that.
You're definitely right but with this generation basically having no fricking culture and just being stuck and fetishizing older times they weren't born in, I think it could fly. I saw a woke 'Bond' novel by some insane fricking wokie and it convinced me that for the next one they should drop any connection to modernity if they want it to succeed. Graig's movies covered the modern soulless age and nothing changed since then. Go back and explore the past. I'd say either 60's piece or go back to the Cold War as a staple of the series.
Why did you have to post it? The thread was so comfy and fun now the mood is ass-raped..
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Because it was applicable to the post I was replying to?
That's typically how replies work.
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I know anon I ain't slating you for it but it just pisses me off so fricking much because I really love the character and watching his name be used for that shit is something I just want to forget..
I do hope we go back to this as much as I am sick of hearing about ukraine, at least these aren't propaganda for our troops. middle east war films stopped being good after hurt locker
80s Cold war would be great, Russians are back to being the bad guys now anyways
don't give those mongoloids any reason to project their cripplebrained half-thoughts into the past, they'll just make politicised distortions of history.
Fair enough but they'll just do that with whatever theme or story they decide to bastardize. I honestly can't even think of what conflict they can cover in the modern era? I think the middle east conflict could have been interesting but the Graig movies completely skipped that because they were pussies but that's long over now. Past conflicts and eras are the only possible choice.
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doesn't have to be a conflict. the north korean govt operates like an organised crime ring sometimes, they're already halfway to being like spectre and nobody likes them. they could also do something based off of a fictionalised brunei, whose sultan is more or less a bond villain and has oil reserves sufficient to make the stakes interesting - also small enough that their b***hing wouldn't matter.
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You're on to something, for sure Anon. I think that approach would be perfect. Maybe have Bond be involved with tracking Saudi-like sheikhs and have some nice scenery and set-pieces in those places. I think though the stakes should be smaller and have it be more of a detective story like the original novels than a globe-trotting adventure but with the same fun and excitement. Risico is the perfect story for that. I also throw in Jodie Comer in the ring for Bond girl. Makes me diamonds.
I just want hot bawds, secret agents, nice cars, guns, and no modern politics in a movie
>I saw a woke 'Bond' novel by some insane fricking wokie
HERE'S YOUR NEW BOND, BRO
I've actually read this book. I doubt many others on Cinemaphile have read any of it except for this one page. It's just alright. There's some villain hiding in Europe who wants claim the British throne as a true Anglo-Saxon king, and plotting to assassinate King Charles at the coronation. Bond goes over and stops him. It's short, basic, just about gets the job done, very obviously written in three weeks, and it's even more obviously not a patch on any of the original Fleming novels.
And as for that one page, while it's definitely incredibly blunt and heavy handed, it's hardly the wokest thing they could've done. It's not Bond taking the knee for BLM, or giving some speech about how Britain needs to accept more refugees and immigrants. And I don't think it's entirely off the mark about what a Bond IN THE MODERN WORLD would believe politically. Think about it; he's a glowie working for the modern British state. Of course he'd have this bullshit opinion that the same old awful status quo needs to be preserved above anything else. Honestly, what I found more offensive about Bond's character in this book is that it's established he's got a friends with benefits situation back home. I can't remember if it's explicitly called that, but it's still a very stupid thing to put in a James Bond book.
Frankly, the whole novel is just one more reminder that Bond simply doesn't work in the modern day. His established personality certainly doesn't fit in well with current mainstream political thought, which is why they change him. Nobody who actually reads Bond books these days reads them because they want to know how what he thinks about modern politics. He doesn't even think about contemporary politics that much in the original Fleming and, when he does, it's done in a far more tactful way than this book did. Bond is involved in geopolitics, but it's just for plot and action; he shouldn't get political himself. Just thank god this isn't canon in any way.
That’s not a bad analysis of it. Bond talks about this in Casino Royale when he’s brooding over the nature of evil >‘Of course,’ he added, as Mathis started to expostulate, ‘patriotism comes along and makes it seem fairly all right, but this country-right-or-wrong business is getting a little out-of-date. Today we are fighting Communism. Okay. If I’d been alive fifty years ago, the brand of Conservatism we have today would have been damn near called Communism and we should have been told to go and fight that. History is moving pretty quickly these days and the heroes and villains keep on changing parts.’
That’s not a bad analysis of it. Bond talks about this in Casino Royale when he’s brooding over the nature of evil >‘Of course,’ he added, as Mathis started to expostulate, ‘patriotism comes along and makes it seem fairly all right, but this country-right-or-wrong business is getting a little out-of-date. Today we are fighting Communism. Okay. If I’d been alive fifty years ago, the brand of Conservatism we have today would have been damn near called Communism and we should have been told to go and fight that. History is moving pretty quickly these days and the heroes and villains keep on changing parts.’
Modern woke Bond should be pitted against classic racist sexist Fleming Bond
Reminds me of those rumors of Connery coming back to play a villain in the Brosnan era, would've been kino
Fair enough but I think it can work in the modern day as long as they present a conpletely different modern day that isn't the insane asylum we live in. Go fictional, invent villains and situations inspired from real life situations but not take them directly. That'd be a good enough compromise.
she's so cute bros... slav genes really do make the best looking girls
Best Bond girl ever. The others are hot for sure but she has that extra appeal with how cute and wife-y she is. She is like an anime girl, calling James a horse's ass for worrying her and hitting him out of frustration going all 'BAKA!' being unaware and unassuming of Koskov's schemes but with a golden heart. Timothy Dalton was an excellent Bond, perhaps the best there's ever been. The Living Daylights is a perfect Bond movie. License to Kill is close, too.
Frick that nonsense whats the point of taking bond into the past if hes going to act like some modern homosexual. We will never see bond beat a woman again.
Sadly. I hate what this woke societal paradigm so much that when I go back and watch Goldfinger and when Bond slaps that one girl's ass at the poolside and tells her to go away because of man talk, the intrusive thought of what these mutant losers would say about this harmless and fun scene persists. Frick them. Frick them to hell.
Personally I think it should be a colorful and lighthearted adventure with locations in the US, Argentina and Japan. Title should be something like "Long Live the King"
Yeah Craig's Bond was thematically pretty dark, and is he the only Bond to die at the end of his series? I don't know if Hollywood audiences are ready for "fun" Bonds again, or "fun" movies at all. Everyone seems to want something deep and dark these days.
I look at it the way Star Wars has gotten “funnier”, there are more jokes aimed to get an easy chuckle out of audiences. But I would enjoy something less dark and gloomy, I know it’s all the rage but god damn sometimes I don’t want to be reminded of how grim the world is.
>I don't know if Hollywood audiences are ready for "fun" Bonds again, or "fun" movies at all.
Hollywood doesn't do humour well. Hollywood can't balance humour and seriousness well. Bond needs to be irreverent in the face of danger sometimes, while also taking danger seriously. Look at modern Star Wars movies with Rey or a bunch of Marvel movies and its like watching autists rush into a busy street with smiling expressions on their face. People like fun, just not overpowering constant jokes, especially when something dangerous does need to be taken seriously.
For me Moonraker and Spectre are the only two Bond films I feel like I've actively wasted my time after finishing. I don't even hate it because of the silliness (also Spectre's small jokes work pretty well now thinking about it), but there's just no reason to be invested.
A View to A Kill is also an insomnia cure except for Zorin, the Golden Gate fight, and this awesome action theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0RtXzUc8x4
And, dare I say it, Octopussy is a God-Tier Bond film and the best one Moore ever did.
>(also Spectre's small jokes work pretty well now thinking about it)
One of the few things I like about Spectre is that it finally brought some humour back to the series after all of Craig's films thus far had been so po-faced. Just a shame the rest of the film was so dull.
>but he needs to tone down the muscle a bit.
He knows he's not Superman anymore now. He will tone it down a bit for the role.
Please, for the love of FRICK, have it be Henry Cavill. It can't be anyone else. He has a deal with Amazon who owns the rights to Bond and is in bed with Broccoli so it only makes sense. I have I wake up tomorrow and see that Bond kino is on the menu.
This dude sucks, Cavill is the only way to bring back Bond.
Oh no no no Cavillbros he will never be bond now...
They said the same thing about Brosnan because he did a LOT of stuff where he played Bond-like characters and he got the part two years older than Henry is now. Didn't stop him, did it?
Please, for the love of FRICK, have it be Henry Cavill. It can't be anyone else. He has a deal with Amazon who owns the rights to Bond and is in bed with Broccoli so it only makes sense. I have I wake up tomorrow and see that Bond kino is on the menu.
i have no problem with cavill but he doesnt seem like a bond. i already know him as superman, geralt, and sherlock holmes. they need to stop using the same actor for so many things at the same time. its getting really weird man
Not going to talk about his acting but the dude has the look. I can see him as Superman and with all the picture in this thread, he look awesome as james bond. He looks like a spy and at the same time like a super hero.
Nah, I think that's been shot down even if the guy himself in an interview acted as if he was reluctant and dodging rumours but he is out of contention apparently. It's either Cavill, per bookies, or some other guy that's been kept a complete secret which is unlikely. After the failure of Graig's last turd, they need to get Cavill for goodwill amongst the fanbase. Even Bond turboautists and the pajeet on Youtube agree in unison Cavill should get the role.
It's Jessie Buckley. She may not be the semen demon like the others but she has a very Irish village girl kind of appeal and would be good as the Bond girl who he falls in love with and not just because she's a semen demon which is what the others are for.
She's a really good actress. Could be a great villain with the right writing.
It could work, your idea, but I see her more as let's say some secretary or something that's unassuming and gets mixed up in the villain's schemes and the general plot and ends up with Bond. She doesn't give me a villainous impression.
Thomasin Mackenzie, that one chess waifu whose name i cant remember, Moner
Anya would have been a very interesting Bond girl if she wasn't so bogged right now. Her in LNIS would have been ideal. I can let it slide that she doesn't have much sex appeal for her unique looks alone.
>Anya would have been a very interesting Bond girl if she wasn't so bogged right now
My thoughts exactly
Thomasin and Moner still have some good years left if they don't go full moron and get buccal fat removal
She had that immediate effect on me.
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It could work, your idea, but I see her more as let's say some secretary or something that's unassuming and gets mixed up in the villain's schemes and the general plot and ends up with Bond. She doesn't give me a villainous impression.
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Anya would have been a very interesting Bond girl if she wasn't so bogged right now. Her in LNIS would have been ideal. I can let it slide that she doesn't have much sex appeal for her unique looks alone.
I'd love to see a proper Moonraker adaptation. Doesn't necessarily have to be set in the 50s, though it'd be a bonus if Broccoli finally relented and did a period Bond film especially with a plot so heavily tied to the Cold War, but I just want to see the story done faithfully. I could see a lot of Cinemaphile anons raging if they faithfully adapted the ending though, saying they'd be cucking Bond out of the girl (despite the bittersweet melancholy of that ending being one of Fleming's best moments)
>Daniela as your first pick
Utterly based. She's practically tailor-made to be a Bond girl, and she's a decent actress too.
Plus, I don't think any of the Bond films have been to Portugal yet, unless I'm forgetting one.
Vanessa Kirby, Olivia Cooke, Nathaniel Emmanuel and Katie McGrath are prime Bond girl material. Trying to find actresses I realized just how hard it is to find actresses in current Hollywood with actual sex appeal. I included the slam pig Pugh because it's likely that they'll consider her even if she's pretty fugly.
As a henchwoman, she could work. I don't find her all that attractive though lol.
everyone wants cavill
if they install a Black person fleming's ghost will come back and have revenge destroying the project
Everyone wants him. Every facet of people who like James Bond wants him and it's been going on for years. He's not too old, he's at the perfect age for Bond and he's only gotten better with age. Brosnan started when he was 42 and look how that turned out. I think it's happening. Broccoli can be a dumb c**t sometimes but she ain't that stupid, she would eat Cavill up as he is now. We can trust her femcoomer brain to make this happen.
sean connery looked like he was 42 in dr no. i don't know what the problem is, its not a fricking marvel franchise, bond is expected to look like a grown man.
i didn't even like daniel craig because he has absolutely no personality and no on screen charisma, he's got the face and the build but c**t is a husk
Katie as the Bond Girl that's secretly on the villain's side. After seeing Craig's bond get a GILF in the last movies it's only appropriate 40+ year old Katie get her chance with a new younger Bond.
>Evil twin James Bond starts causing havoc >Bond gets fired and has to repair his reputation and eliminate his evil twin/clone >Blofeld is behind it all >Christina Hendricks and some other milk maids bouncing around on screen, titillating the audience
I think it's time they used Risico or Property of a Lady lol it's been anticipated for decades but I think an original title would be better. Something like Death Will Wait, Need to Know, Devil May Care (a title from a nu-Bond novel that's good) Double or Nothing or unused titles from old movies like A Whisper from Hell and Reunion with Death. So many possibilites.
I think it's time they used Risico or Property of a Lady lol it's been anticipated for decades but I think an original title would be better. Something like Death Will Wait, Need to Know, Devil May Care (a title from a nu-Bond novel that's good) Double or Nothing or unused titles from old movies like A Whisper from Hell and Reunion with Death. So many possibilites.
Nolan wants to do a hard reboot almost 1:1 adaption of the book
Which one do you mean? I trust Nolan. Even with his all autismo, he hasn't dropped the ball and is as corrupt and evil as any other Hollywood director besides him putting Denzel's talentless son and ruining Tenet which he remedied afterwards with Oppenheimer which was good, politics aside. I think him and Cavill could be a golden combination of kino.
Nolan would be a GOD if he decided to scrap the 2005 movie, as good as it was, and adapt the original novels more faithfully, starting with CR. Le Chifree was a miscast as much as I like Mads. Someone like Peter Skarsgard would have been more accurate. i'd love for him to go full Bond autist and do it all correctly.
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Is it not know by now Nolan can't direct action for shit. Danny Boyle would've been a great director for a Bond movie. That action scene in Trainspotting 2 where Sickboy and Renton were fighting proves it. It was because of that scene he was in the running for a while. I'd be more excited about watching a Bond movie directed by Boyle than I'd be looking at the prospects of watching a Bond movie directed by Nolan. Nolan would not be up to the task.
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Nolan would never be able tro top Martin campbell get fricked with that nonsense.
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True enough OP but I never said that so no need for the hostility but unless they get Campbell again which is always welcome then Nolan is fine although great points against him have been raised in this thread.
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? Nolan can't do action, can't do character drama
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Got any more regurgitated phrases from reddit?
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Doesn't make them untrue, plus Nolan is prime reddit material.
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True. Like someone else said, Boyle and Dan Stevens are the way to go. I'll allow them to keep Bond blonde with blue eyes for the Ubermensch aesthetic.
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For a time, he was the bookies' favourite and it's happened before that someone pops up on their radar, disappears and then gets the part out of nowhere.
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Nolan would be a GOD if he decided to scrap the 2005 movie, as good as it was, and adapt the original novels more faithfully, starting with CR. Le Chifree was a miscast as much as I like Mads. Someone like Peter Skarsgard would have been more accurate. i'd love for him to go full Bond autist and do it all correctly.
there is a pretty good video on youtube about why nolan shouldn't direct a bond film, and its points are well presented
either way it wouldn't be a good idea, TLDR is >he's too prominent a director and wouldn't let ian productions issue him directions >he's bad at writing human drama and romance >can't write comedy
As the other guy noted Risico has a nice ring to it, but off the top of my head maybe "For King and Country"?
Also I wonder if they could adapt one of the continuation 007 novels like No Deals, Mr. Bond (if they're any good). I don't believe many people have gotten around to them, I certainly haven't.
It does have a nice ring to it and the original short story has enough juice to make into a movie, with majorly added story of course. I think a 60's period piece spy story hunting down a drug baron with Italian setting starring Cavill and directed by Nolan would surpass a billie easy and even more.
It's about Bond touching women. It's about a guy with his hand on the button and it's about modern touching technology. You can add another layer about the movie resonating with the audience so hard they start to get emotional. It's a four layered title. Perfection.
We could have a black guy serving the salt when Bond is dining and Bond says: Just another touch. The black guy reveals his breasts and dilator and Bond says: "Too Much'. as he kicks him in the face and runs off with the hot woman.
A stupid idea I’ve had for a while is “God Only Knows” after listening to The Beach Boys song. >I may not always love you >But long as there are stars above you >You never need to doubt it >I'll make you so sure about it >God only knows what I'd be without you >If you should ever leave me >Though life would still go on believe me >The world could show nothing to me >So what good would living do me
Doesn’t that kind of sound like a Bond intro song?
Another round of Bond waifus. I've added Ursula Corbero (spanish semen demon) and Stacy Martin (exotic french beauty) and some other recognizable favourites from Cinemaphile.
The only good direction for Bond as a franchise to go in is to adapt the original Casino Royale novel as a period accurate thriller like a classic Le Carre film tbh. The modern bond “international super cop” is completely rubbish and a disgrace to the original character
It won't be Cavill, he's too old and famous. They've never cast a super well established actor for the part and they already said they are looking for someone in their early 30's
There's a reason for that, MGM was brought out by Amazon, I wouldn't be surprise if Amazon drops the movie on stream after a month in theaters. I'd be seething too if I were her
I think you're right tbh. It's unfortunate, really. Maybe if Craig hadn't stuck around in the part for so long, we might have seen Cavill as Bond while he was closer to the right age, but even that would've depended on his Superman obligations
Bond works better when it's someone more unknown, anyways. It'd just be distracting if we saw an already-famous actor cast as Bond
>bond 26 opening scene >bond running through a snowy forest >they perch their sniper rifle on a cliff overlooking a luxury mansion >camera pans up to reveal they are wearing full tactical gear with their face covered looking through a sniper scope >important looking guy walks into his sights >handler on radio goes "that's our target, take the shot 007" >bond shoots the man, but as soon as he does it he's surprised by a man wearing similar tactical gear with their face also covered >they hold bond up and ask them to remove their mask >bond removes his mask >it's brosnan, looking good as ever >"bit old to be playing games in the snow, are we?" >"no matter, playtime's over" >dramatic cinematography >bond is shot in the head, killing him instantly >he falls over in slow motion with the camera doing a fancy focus pull to focus on on the masked assassin in the background >to the audience's surprise, the same handler speaks up again, revealing brosnan wasn't the one they were originally talking to >"splendid job, 007" >the real bond reveals their face for the first time >cue hero shot of Sean Bean, looking larger than life, as the newest James Bond >camera cuts to brosnan trying to get up, upon which Bond turns around quickly and shoots, instantly launching the gunbarrel scene and a bombastic bond opening theme with rock guitars and heavy orchestralization
i wouldnt like cavil as a bond, he's either too boyish or too pretty but saying that im realizing that the next bond is probably going to be some effeminate man with asian genetics like what zoomers think an ideal man is, or someone like cavill with nu-hollywood plastic muscles and clean shaven armpits
I DO also enjoy Lea Seydoux.
It helps her Bond cred that she's one of the very few good parts of Spectre
>real adaptation of moonraker >to keep it modern change the nazi to a former soviet >call it one past dead or some meme title >Nolan directs >cavil stars
Instant hit. I'm kinda surprise by how different the book is from the movie
The film Moonraker was just an excuse to rip-off Star Wars. They took the title, the name of the villain, and the vague idea of his plan involving rockets in some capacity. That's about it, as far as adaptational stuff goes.
Mind you, one problem with doing a proper adaptation of the novel would be that the only two locations would be London and Dover. While I personally wouldn't mind that, a hell of a lot of people (including the producers) expect the whole exotic globetrotting thing from a Bond film, and I think that's partially why Moore's Moonraker is so radically different.
To add, moonraker was such an impulse ripoff that the end of Spy Who Loved Me said "Bond will return in For Your Eyes Only" then they made moonraker on zero notice instead and just recycled 80% of the plot and sets from SWLM
>The film Moonraker was just an excuse to rip-off Star Wars.
The Spy Who Loved Me end titles said Bond would return in For Your Eyes Only. Which obviously they did later because they then did Moonraker because of SW. But frick me, the whole plot is basically exactly the same as The Spy Who Loved Me. Except in that the guy wants to live in the ocean.
>The film Moonraker was just an excuse to rip-off Star Wars.
The Spy Who Loved Me end titles said Bond would return in For Your Eyes Only. Which obviously they did later because they then did Moonraker because of SW. But frick me, the whole plot is basically exactly the same as The Spy Who Loved Me. Except in that the guy wants to live in the ocean.
Based hivemind defending the pure Moore kino Spy Who Loved Me over the shitty hack Moonraker
>The film Moonraker was just an excuse to rip-off Star Wars.
The Spy Who Loved Me end titles said Bond would return in For Your Eyes Only. Which obviously they did later because they then did Moonraker because of SW. But frick me, the whole plot is basically exactly the same as The Spy Who Loved Me. Except in that the guy wants to live in the ocean.
>real adaptation of moonraker >to keep it modern change the nazi to a former soviet >call it one past dead or some meme title >Nolan directs >cavil stars
Instant hit. I'm kinda surprise by how different the book is from the movie
cavill and nolan are both too old and prominent, ian productions prefers young, up and coming bonds and directors early in their careers. also both are too serious for bond and i dont want the next bond to be just a daniel craig 2.0
Since when is being too old a mark against a director? Martin Campbell was 62 when he directed Casino Royale
Besides, Nolan's whole career has basically been him building up to doing a Bond film. One of his favourite all time movies is OHMSS
Octopussy is terrific. The only flaw is that the circus near the end with the nuke shows the audience enjoying the circus. I can forgive a lot of unrealistic stuff in a Bond movie, but nobody in any universe has ever enjoyed a circus.
Other than that, I will not tolerate a bad word said about Octopussy.
The opening with the clown is great. The middle part of the movie is a big switch off because the plot never really gets going and I don't like Moore's chemistry with Octopussy. Then you have the whole train stuff and the movie feels like it should have ended. But oh wait, you have Bond going back on a fricking balloon for a pointless end fight.
I feel like Octopussy is kind of a prototype of The Living Daylights. A few of the setpieces and pacing are very similar.
It's further helped by the fact that Maud Adams and Moore had really good chemistry. Honestly, I feel like Octo is one of better Moore movies, probably only after Spy Who Loved Me and FYEO and maybe Live and Let Die imo.
different anon here
I agree the final bad guy is less memorable than Soviet George C Scott and turban guy
but most Bond villains aren't that good
Carver
Trevelyan
Christopher Walken
Salamanca
Blofeld in YOLT and DAF (not OHMSS, frick Telly Savalas and his stupid voice)
All of the other Bond villains are pretty bland.
>but most Bond villains aren't that good
That is the weird thing about Bond. A lot of the bad guy plots, bad guys and henchmen end up kinda as lame ducks? And yet other stuff feels so iconic. Dr No is an iconic villain name but practically no one remembers his plot using a machine to destabilise rocket launches.
Probably one of the strongest coalescing of bad guy, plot and henchmen is Goldfinger.
FYEO is very good, it's been a while since I've watched it, but my biggest gripe is that it felt like it had too many climaxes and it was a bit exhausting. But I'd have to rewatch to better substantiate that claim.
Other than that, it had a nice down-to-earth plot after some of sillier installments of Moore's Bond. A fun revenge plot with a multitude of henchmen who get knock out one-by-one.
>How so?
The smuggling plot feels pretty similar to Living Daylights. Orlov is a bit similar to Whitaker. Both movies had bits taken from Fleming's Property of a Lady short story IIRC. John Barry's score in both movies is also very similar. The Living Daylights is inarguably the better movie, but I definitely feel like there was some shared blood between the two films.
As a side note, a lot of people dislike the circus scene, but I really like it. There aren't many moments in the franchise where Bond gets to be presented in such a hero-like fashion to a group of ordinary people.
>too many climaxes
"That's detente" line is fire. >The Living Daylights is inarguably the better movie, but I definitely feel like there was some shared blood between the two films.
I'll have to watch them back to back sometimes because I just don't feel this. >As a side note, a lot of people dislike the circus scene, but I really like it.
I disliked a bunch of stuff in India tbh more so than that. The train bit is fine and feels more like a climax.
I think all the 80s Bonds feel sorta similar, even though it's two different actors. they're all directed by John Glen, they all have a similar level of production value, and the silly/serious spectrum, and are all excellent. but I don't really feel like Octopussy and The Living Daylights are specifically linked.
The Graig ones besides CR easily are worse. Octopussy is a classic Bond movie even if silly and meandering. Graig's are an assault on the character and a bastardization of his canon.
The woman who owns Bond now literally despises the IP and does everything she can to subvert it. Bond is either a Black person, she's selling it outright to Bezos, or the next movie will be a streaming series.
BOND 26 LORE LEAKED: JAMES HERBERT BOND GETS IN TROUBLE WITH THE URUGUAYAN AUTHORITIES FOR ATTEMPTING TO SMUGGLE BOOTLEG CIGARETTES FROM BRAZIL. THE SAID AUTHORITIES WILL PROCEED TO PUT BOND THROUGH AN INDUSTRIAL GRINDER AS CONSQUENCE, BUT BOND WILL BE ABLE TO GET OUT IF THIS SITUATION BY HAVING HOT STEAMY PASSIONATE GAY SEX WITH THE PRESIDENT OF ARGENTINA.
The latest Bond novel (On His Majesty’s Secret Service) has him try and stop a threat to the Coronation of King Charles III. Bond now eats yougurt for breakfast, drinks mineral water and drives safer. The villains in the book are thinly veiled Brexiteer types who want to limit immigration, are sceptical of Global Warming and don't like the EU.
What would a third Timothy Dalton Bond have been like? It seems a shame that the rights issue stopped another one being made. And by the time that shit was over, they thought it more prudent to recast.
I don't think they had much choice, apparently Dalton never really won over American audiences. Shame since he was the best Bond. I'd love to have seen a third Dalton film. Though maybe not if it came at the cost of Brosnan being in Goldeneye. Hard to imagine that movie without Brosnan, he was so perfect for it.
>apparently Dalton never really won over American audiences
As far as I am aware, Dalton's Bond just got a weird reception from a lot of people. He wasn't silly like Moore's Bond and he wasn't a playboy like Connery's Bond.
Dalton was brooding and more serious, and I think audiences just really didn't know how to perceive him. Reading the reviews of Living Daylights feels like old men yelling at clouds. Ebert called Dalton "humorless" which is strange because I think TLD has a fair amount of humor and Dalton has a good dry delivery.
Maybe it's a generational thing because nowadays, everyone really likes the Living Daylights and License to Kill.
>Ebert called Dalton "humorless" which is strange because I think TLD has a fair amount of humor and Dalton has a good dry delivery.
Agreed, I never understood this criticism of Dalton. He does humor really well (and still does, as anyone who has seen Hot Fuzz knows)
I think you're right about the weird reception he got, Dalton's Bond goes straight back to Fleming, darker, grittier, much more down to earth, when audiences at the time had been weaned on 15 years of Moore's wisecracking globetrotting superhero Bond - Dalton's back-to-basics Bond fricked with the formula and paid the price.
On the upside it does mean his movies stand the test of time much better than most Bond films do. I'd sooner watch Daylights or Licence than any of Moore's (except maybe Spy who loved me) and probably most of Connery's too. And Craig's (Craig is really only doing what Dalton did thirty years ago anyway)
>taking anything Ebert said seriously
Even back in the day, he was a joke. He was the poster boy of critics moron normgroids listened to because they can't be bothered to try a movie out and had to have some homosexual tell them if it's 'good' to him or not. Some things never change. Graig's didn't do what Dalton's movies did. They were dry british Jason Bourne movies, just because they were le serious doesn't make them similar. Dalton's movies weren't THAT serious anyway as he had a ski chase using a cello and massive set piece action scenes too. He had the perfect mix of camp and Flemmingness. I'd agree with him doing great with the humour. Consider how in TLD, when he takes Koskov he says 'don't worry Georgi we have a pipeline to the west' as a phrase seemingly and then he gives this really funny sideeye and the camera shows that he literally meant a pipeline. Great understated humour. His movies were perfection and should be the template for the new Bond movies.
>Kate Bush was offered to sing Moonraker but turned it down
Reading the lyrics it would have fit her perfectly. This is why you didn’t break out into America until 2022 you silly shit
Doomed from the start because I'm pretty sure the producers think they're off on the best Bond entries (and I'm sure the general audience think so). No Time to Die was without a doubt the worst Bond film ever made, the issue is that the people who made it (and will make the next one) do not see it this way.
That's why Casino Royale was so great, they knew the one before it was a turd so they had to step up to the plate.
Anyway my recommendation would be Cavill or Dan Stevens, get Boyle or a director that can do action (the top gun 2 and tron guy?). Character involvement but not personal to Bond. Theem needs a male rock singer.
Favorite Bond opening song?
Probably Thunderball even though there are so many that are legit good.
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You know my name
Goldfinger
Thunderball
GoldenEye
Growing up on buttrock conditioned me to feel like You Know My Name was the greatest song ever composed.
All Time High
Diamonds are Forever is pretty good. Don’t know if it’s my favorite, but it’s been stuck in my head lately.
I love Diamonds are Forever - both the song and movie. Yeah, it's a shitty follow up to OHMSS but it's so... Fun, I don't know. I've always had a soft spot for it.
It was a great and well-done Bond film. I've never understood how on earth OHMSS has gotten such a good revisionist rap in the last few years. It was drought nonsense that commited the mother of Bond sins which is to have him be married and then Graig doubled down on it and made him a gay and then die but still. No movie with Connery as Bond is bad. I think Connery, Dalton and Brosnan are the only good Bond actors. I never liked Moore, however comfy his movies are.
It's got a bad reputation these days, for some reason. I love the Vegas stuff.
My favourite is the sequel, My Penis is Forever Diamonds: Starring Halle Berry
Ahh an anon of exquisite taste
Goldeneye and You Know My Name because I was a massive Soundgarden fan and Goldeneye and Pierce were my introduction to Bond. Looking back, Graig was the worst Bond. One great film and the rest are absolute dogshit with woke elements, although not as bad as most other franchises.
I heard some guy on Twitter who's a film scooper say Cavill's got the part for some time now. Hence the deal with Amazon and why he's doing the Warhammer show. Amazon owns James Bond rights, btw.
>Looking back, Graig was the worst Bond. One great film and the rest are absolute dogshit
I bought the anniversary edition. Each movie came with a second DVD that had a whole bunch of extras.
If you're not a Bond fan, all of the Bond movies are dogshit. It's very hard to recommend a Bond movie to an outsider to show them why you like it. All of them are stuck in the decade they were released in.
So Bond fans: if you only had one shot at showing an outsider a Bond movie. To convince him.
I showed my brother 'Goldeneye'. We watched it together. I thought it was money in the bank. He was bored. Fricking shitting all over my childhood right there.
And what's so bad about that? I think Bond's the perfect movie franchise for one reason. Normies love it for that action movie fix whenever one comes out and the turbo autists (like myself) obsess over it and both pay up to see it. Hence why it's still so monolithic He probably wanted to watch TikTok or somethings. Bond is the man's man of franchises. The ultimate male fantasy but can't expect everyone to appreciate that.
I raised my four cousins on Michael Jackson. Fame is very fleeting. I watched one Elvis Presley movie. You ask any kid today who Elvis Presley, James Brown, Muhammed Ali, Buzz Aldrin, Sean Connery, Arnold Shwarzenegger, etc. are. They would look at you like you're a mental patient. I work in a place that sells clothing, in Europe. Jordan sells like hotcakes. I wonder if they even know who Michael Jordan was.
Really. I might have to buy some stock in Jordan's. It's not the shoes. It's the shirts. Well, shoes too. I'm thinking: "Who the frick is buying all these?". Dude's low key a magnate.
If it's any consolation, the problem with Goldeneye isn't that it's boring, but rather inaccessable to many normies. It's the dialogue. It doesn't use exposition like other films. It expects you to read the room. It's a little too clever for its own good. Should've introduced him to Tomorrow Never Dies or Casino Royale.
>I showed my brother 'Goldeneye'.
I rewatched Goldeneye recently.
I like how you have this big feminist speech from M calling Bond a dinosaur. A bit more of it from Moneypenny. Then the fricking female villain is called Xenia Onatopp and likes to get on top of men to frick them to death or kill them while orgasming.
Oh and I forgot the whole assessor lady who Bond seduces while racing Xenia Onatopp.
It really is, you know that 90s PC discussion? Frick off, this is James Bond
It isn't a speech. It's one or two buzzwords as a insecure defense for Bond doubting her and being slightly antagonistic to her appointment as M but she tells Bond to come back alive with a smile on her face thus showing she still values and holds affection for him despite what she said. She never was this cold to Bond in the other movies and she dropped this act in the very same scene. Also, Moneypenny was just as obsessed with James as any other version and the sexual harassment line was just to set up the very next quip that his penalty for it is finally sleeping with Moneypenny to 'make good on his innuendos'. By today's standards, this is un-woke as hell. Xenia was easily the hottest Bond girl. Pure sex appeal. Her in the scene at the sauna makes me diamonds. Great idea for a Bond movie. Goldeneye was perfect.
>If you're not a Bond fan, all of the Bond movies are dogshit. It's very hard to recommend a Bond movie to an outsider to show them why you like it. All of them are stuck in the decade they were released in.
I find that Bond fans tend to be the only movie series fans who like most of the films (barring some people's thoughts on Craig). The other year they showed a bond movie a week at the cinema and I went and saw every single one on the big screen. Are there some films better than others? Sure. But I genuinely just enjoy a Bond film.
From Russia with Love is kinda boring if I remember correctly
One of my favourites tbh. Simple plot. Gorgeous blonde girl. I like the tension on the train with the assassin.
I think this too, but I didn't dislike it. And if somebody says they think FRWL is the best, I can respect that. They want a more stripped-down, restrained take on Bond. FRWL has no gimmicks.
snake eater
Nobody Does It Better, I didn't like it at first but I keep getting it stuck in my head
Based and best Brosnan movie
>they are looking for someone in their early 30's
Probably a gay Black person
YOU KNOW MY NAAAAAAAAAA *staccato string hits* MEEEEE
YOU KNOW MY *staccato string hits increase in loudness* NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA *staccato string hits* MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
*orchestral string section starts blasting incredibly loud*
YOU KNOW MY NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME
ARM YOURSELF BECAUSE NO ONE HERE WILL SAVE YOUUU
YOU CANT DENY THE PRIZE IT MAY NEVER FULFILL YOUUUUU
Henry Cavill would be alright. Diversity characters pls be organic.
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No other intro can compete
I wonder what singer they'll get for the new one. There's not a single great one out there. Let me guess, Ice Spice? Pshh. We already had the abomination that zoomer druggie Billie Eilish sang that was a complete dreck. Arctic Monkeys were rumoured for a long while.They did a cover of DAF and it's great.
I like Nolan and think he'd do a good job (better than most for sure) but Boyle would be excellent as you mentioned, so long as Cavill is chosen and the story is great. I do wonder, who else could hack it? For my money, why not get this guy who did the John Wick movies?
billie eilish is gr8 tho and i usually hate modern music, whatever label's controlling her is clearly pushing the whole broad appeal factor, plus the bond theme she sang was very lounge-like so it's not like she's for zoomers only
t. 30yo
COMES THE MORNING AND THE HEADLIGHTS FADE AWAY
my man
License to kill
Dance into the firebros where we at
Bond movies were a rare exception to the rule that no good movies came out after 2007, but unfortunately now they are also dead. It's too bad.
You could argue that all of them were abject dogshit after Casino Royale but I liked Skyfall, at least most of it. All I'm saying is that you could say nothing after 2006 was good and still be right.
I have yet to find television or films from the last ~15 years that isn't dogshit.
try The Woman King
Black or brown Bond.
gay Bond
Translesbian Bond
I think it'll actually be a white male Bond. But it won't matter because the movie will be filled with Blacks anyway.
Lizzo as James Bond
didn't she fingerbang her backup dancer or something
jej
I don't think Fleming would approve
Nolan Bros, we are so back.
Last night I Bond burgered OPs sister
I Pierce'd her buns
they'll make him a Black person or a woman, maybe both.
They already did that last movie.
Dubs and it's Nolan and Cavill
Aaron Taylor Johnson, actually.
Can you imagine?
It's the only thing that could redeem the franchise
I see gosling there
>Gosling and his tardlings
>gosling finds the mani mani statue
Cavill is already doing something as a spy for the movie Argylle. I'd like Aaron Taylor-Johnson as Bond instead.
Nolan yes, Cavil please no. And frick off with this meme. You cavil stans are a very loud fringe minority. He's objectively a terrible actor with zero range or charisma and that's why he's not in anything anymore. Plus he's too old to be signing up for a 10-15 year run anyways, that tiny handed man is pushing 50
>stans
Opinion discarded, zoomBlack person troony.
>stans
back2reddit with you
captcha: SOOYA
>stans
Way to completely destroy whatever nonsense you were going to spew. Spared us the effort.
Craig started when he was 40, he’s 55 now, and Henry is currently 40. It could easily happen.
I hope they pick an Indian, so this board will be poo in loo jokes for weeks
Fake & gay
Idris Elba as Bond
What should a new James Bond film even be like? Tonally, stylistically, etc….?
Super Spy shit. Time for Bond to show SHEILD how its done.
From Russia with Love 2.0
Fun, like bond movies, rather than the emo drama knockoff bourne shit we've been getting since world is not enough
Like Man from UNCLE, which Cavill also starred in. It was a 60's period piece in modern times done perfectly. Oppenheimer proved period pieces can still make insane money.
I wouldn't mind seeing some book accurate Bond made as a mini series or something but I always believe that the main Bond movies should exist as little time capsules of what was popular at the time for future generations to enjoy. The period thing would ruin that.
You're definitely right but with this generation basically having no fricking culture and just being stuck and fetishizing older times they weren't born in, I think it could fly. I saw a woke 'Bond' novel by some insane fricking wokie and it convinced me that for the next one they should drop any connection to modernity if they want it to succeed. Graig's movies covered the modern soulless age and nothing changed since then. Go back and explore the past. I'd say either 60's piece or go back to the Cold War as a staple of the series.
>I saw a woke 'Bond' novel by some insane fricking wokie
HERE'S YOUR NEW BOND, BRO
Why did you have to post it? The thread was so comfy and fun now the mood is ass-raped..
Because it was applicable to the post I was replying to?
That's typically how replies work.
I know anon I ain't slating you for it but it just pisses me off so fricking much because I really love the character and watching his name be used for that shit is something I just want to forget..
I understand. I apologize.
The first two paragraphs weren’t bad
80s Cold war would be great, Russians are back to being the bad guys now anyways
I do hope we go back to this as much as I am sick of hearing about ukraine, at least these aren't propaganda for our troops. middle east war films stopped being good after hurt locker
don't give those mongoloids any reason to project their cripplebrained half-thoughts into the past, they'll just make politicised distortions of history.
Fair enough but they'll just do that with whatever theme or story they decide to bastardize. I honestly can't even think of what conflict they can cover in the modern era? I think the middle east conflict could have been interesting but the Graig movies completely skipped that because they were pussies but that's long over now. Past conflicts and eras are the only possible choice.
doesn't have to be a conflict. the north korean govt operates like an organised crime ring sometimes, they're already halfway to being like spectre and nobody likes them. they could also do something based off of a fictionalised brunei, whose sultan is more or less a bond villain and has oil reserves sufficient to make the stakes interesting - also small enough that their b***hing wouldn't matter.
You're on to something, for sure Anon. I think that approach would be perfect. Maybe have Bond be involved with tracking Saudi-like sheikhs and have some nice scenery and set-pieces in those places. I think though the stakes should be smaller and have it be more of a detective story like the original novels than a globe-trotting adventure but with the same fun and excitement. Risico is the perfect story for that. I also throw in Jodie Comer in the ring for Bond girl. Makes me diamonds.
Don't we all?
I've actually read this book. I doubt many others on Cinemaphile have read any of it except for this one page. It's just alright. There's some villain hiding in Europe who wants claim the British throne as a true Anglo-Saxon king, and plotting to assassinate King Charles at the coronation. Bond goes over and stops him. It's short, basic, just about gets the job done, very obviously written in three weeks, and it's even more obviously not a patch on any of the original Fleming novels.
And as for that one page, while it's definitely incredibly blunt and heavy handed, it's hardly the wokest thing they could've done. It's not Bond taking the knee for BLM, or giving some speech about how Britain needs to accept more refugees and immigrants. And I don't think it's entirely off the mark about what a Bond IN THE MODERN WORLD would believe politically. Think about it; he's a glowie working for the modern British state. Of course he'd have this bullshit opinion that the same old awful status quo needs to be preserved above anything else. Honestly, what I found more offensive about Bond's character in this book is that it's established he's got a friends with benefits situation back home. I can't remember if it's explicitly called that, but it's still a very stupid thing to put in a James Bond book.
Frankly, the whole novel is just one more reminder that Bond simply doesn't work in the modern day. His established personality certainly doesn't fit in well with current mainstream political thought, which is why they change him. Nobody who actually reads Bond books these days reads them because they want to know how what he thinks about modern politics. He doesn't even think about contemporary politics that much in the original Fleming and, when he does, it's done in a far more tactful way than this book did. Bond is involved in geopolitics, but it's just for plot and action; he shouldn't get political himself. Just thank god this isn't canon in any way.
That’s not a bad analysis of it. Bond talks about this in Casino Royale when he’s brooding over the nature of evil
>‘Of course,’ he added, as Mathis started to expostulate, ‘patriotism comes along and makes it seem fairly all right, but this country-right-or-wrong business is getting a little out-of-date. Today we are fighting Communism. Okay. If I’d been alive fifty years ago, the brand of Conservatism we have today would have been damn near called Communism and we should have been told to go and fight that. History is moving pretty quickly these days and the heroes and villains keep on changing parts.’
Modern woke Bond should be pitted against classic racist sexist Fleming Bond
Reminds me of those rumors of Connery coming back to play a villain in the Brosnan era, would've been kino
Fair enough but I think it can work in the modern day as long as they present a conpletely different modern day that isn't the insane asylum we live in. Go fictional, invent villains and situations inspired from real life situations but not take them directly. That'd be a good enough compromise.
Best Bond girl ever. The others are hot for sure but she has that extra appeal with how cute and wife-y she is. She is like an anime girl, calling James a horse's ass for worrying her and hitting him out of frustration going all 'BAKA!' being unaware and unassuming of Koskov's schemes but with a golden heart. Timothy Dalton was an excellent Bond, perhaps the best there's ever been. The Living Daylights is a perfect Bond movie. License to Kill is close, too.
Frick that nonsense whats the point of taking bond into the past if hes going to act like some modern homosexual. We will never see bond beat a woman again.
Sadly. I hate what this woke societal paradigm so much that when I go back and watch Goldfinger and when Bond slaps that one girl's ass at the poolside and tells her to go away because of man talk, the intrusive thought of what these mutant losers would say about this harmless and fun scene persists. Frick them. Frick them to hell.
Personally I think it should be a colorful and lighthearted adventure with locations in the US, Argentina and Japan. Title should be something like "Long Live the King"
It should be a little more light hearted and not “sigh… my vesper…” every fricking movie.
Yeah Craig's Bond was thematically pretty dark, and is he the only Bond to die at the end of his series? I don't know if Hollywood audiences are ready for "fun" Bonds again, or "fun" movies at all. Everyone seems to want something deep and dark these days.
>Everyone seems to want something deep and dark these days.
What rock have you been living under?
What's the last fun movie you watched that did well in the box office and didn't have serious undertones?
Despite the plot being very serious, MI Dead Reckoning. It had a heart and soul, unlike any Hollywood movie I've watched in about 5 years.
just give me 2 hours of Bond shitposting on Cinemaphile and I'll be happy
>and is he the only Bond to die at the end of his series?
Yep
Although Lazenby's career died IRL after his Bond movie
they mustve found out he was australian
>this never happened to the other fella
I look at it the way Star Wars has gotten “funnier”, there are more jokes aimed to get an easy chuckle out of audiences. But I would enjoy something less dark and gloomy, I know it’s all the rage but god damn sometimes I don’t want to be reminded of how grim the world is.
i think cocaine bear might be enjoyable for you
>I don't know if Hollywood audiences are ready for "fun" Bonds again, or "fun" movies at all.
Hollywood doesn't do humour well. Hollywood can't balance humour and seriousness well. Bond needs to be irreverent in the face of danger sometimes, while also taking danger seriously. Look at modern Star Wars movies with Rey or a bunch of Marvel movies and its like watching autists rush into a busy street with smiling expressions on their face. People like fun, just not overpowering constant jokes, especially when something dangerous does need to be taken seriously.
The name's Bonfire, James Bonfire
We're going to get spammed with this AI shit for the entire week aren't we?
it's never going away
made me half chuckle, post more
AI thinks Warwick is an actual gremlin
Hey, it's not all bad
Cinemaphile is getting ai spam as well? I thought it was only Cinemaphile.
Michael Skarn!
it's gonna be the new video game announcement by the makers of the hitman
> it's goldeneye HD but xbox exclusive with craig and pay to win season pass lootbox multiplayer
they should make bond american
bring back brosnan as the new Q
That does t make sense
In 20 years we will call Quantum of Solace a masterpiece.
Let’s be real, these movies are never dull. You may not like some of them but they are never boring.
I'm calling NTTD a masterpiece and have ever since I saw it in the theatre
It works as a two-parter to Casino, but it's shallow on its own.
based QOS enjoyer
objectively correct
>what is Moonraker
>what is Spectre
But otherwise you're right.
Moonraker and Spectre keep me engaged with their stupidity
the real borekino is A View to a Kill and Octopussy
For me Moonraker and Spectre are the only two Bond films I feel like I've actively wasted my time after finishing. I don't even hate it because of the silliness (also Spectre's small jokes work pretty well now thinking about it), but there's just no reason to be invested.
A View to A Kill is also an insomnia cure except for Zorin, the Golden Gate fight, and this awesome action theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0RtXzUc8x4
And, dare I say it, Octopussy is a God-Tier Bond film and the best one Moore ever did.
>(also Spectre's small jokes work pretty well now thinking about it)
One of the few things I like about Spectre is that it finally brought some humour back to the series after all of Craig's films thus far had been so po-faced. Just a shame the rest of the film was so dull.
It's time.
I want it, but he needs to tone down the muscle a bit.
Bond isn't supposed to be a tank.
>but he needs to tone down the muscle a bit.
He knows he's not Superman anymore now. He will tone it down a bit for the role.
Oh no no no Cavillbros he will never be bond now...
That's literally what he's supposed to look like.
Connerys hairline was worse
imo that made him better for the role. connery was the best bond precisely because he was an alcoholic who treated women like shit irl
Exactly. A Bond should not care much about the girls beyond the deed and the one movie long love story and then go on as usual with his life as a 00.
>HE’S LITERALLY ME
They said the same thing about Brosnan because he did a LOT of stuff where he played Bond-like characters and he got the part two years older than Henry is now. Didn't stop him, did it?
>Major BOND
It's Commander to you.
Best car?
I love wet nelie
Kino , but for me it was Lazenby's 1969 DBS. So beautiful but shame he didn't use it for much.
Yeah that’s a great choice
Was this bong's attempt at making burger muscle?
Bond has shown an occasional interest in American sportscars. Felix Leiter drove a custom Studebaker with a Cadillac engine
BMW Z8
Cant WAIT for Hunter the troony to be announced as the next bond for the next 6 films!!
New Warwick Davis Bond movie?
looks more like william h macy
it had a really hard time recreating Warwick's face. It either turned him into an actual gremlin or mogwai, or a completely different midget
Please, for the love of FRICK, have it be Henry Cavill. It can't be anyone else. He has a deal with Amazon who owns the rights to Bond and is in bed with Broccoli so it only makes sense. I have I wake up tomorrow and see that Bond kino is on the menu.
i have no problem with cavill but he doesnt seem like a bond. i already know him as superman, geralt, and sherlock holmes. they need to stop using the same actor for so many things at the same time. its getting really weird man
>actors play many different roles, this confuses me
Not going to talk about his acting but the dude has the look. I can see him as Superman and with all the picture in this thread, he look awesome as james bond. He looks like a spy and at the same time like a super hero.
Rumour is it could be the guy from bullet train I don’t think they will go with cavill
This dude sucks, Cavill is the only way to bring back Bond.
Nah, I think that's been shot down even if the guy himself in an interview acted as if he was reluctant and dodging rumours but he is out of contention apparently. It's either Cavill, per bookies, or some other guy that's been kept a complete secret which is unlikely. After the failure of Graig's last turd, they need to get Cavill for goodwill amongst the fanbase. Even Bond turboautists and the pajeet on Youtube agree in unison Cavill should get the role.
This guy has 0 screen presence. His best role is literally 5 min in tenet.
ITS NOT GONNA BE CAVILL HE'S AMERICAN YOU DUMBOIDS
Verification not required
>HE'S AMERICAN
put your helmet back on
Harry Styles is doing the theme tune
Bond get iPad
we need bald Blofeld and his cat back
This guy would be an outstanding Blofeld even if he's a yank.
Both are in the last two movies
It was underwhelming, the Bond franchise is out of gas. Bond is dead even, literally dead
Graig's Jason Bourne ripoff is dead. Not James Bond. He was never James Bond. He was a homosexual sodomite scouse mutant using the name for fame.
he wasn't bald and they killed him off like a chump by some nobody
Moonraker 2: Raking the Moon, coming to theaters soon
Bondbros, which current actually attractive actress should be the Bond girl? I say any of these are prime for Bond movies.
who's bottom middle? good choices I think, especially Daniela
It's Jessie Buckley. She may not be the semen demon like the others but she has a very Irish village girl kind of appeal and would be good as the Bond girl who he falls in love with and not just because she's a semen demon which is what the others are for.
thank you anon, I think I love her
She had that immediate effect on me.
It could work, your idea, but I see her more as let's say some secretary or something that's unassuming and gets mixed up in the villain's schemes and the general plot and ends up with Bond. She doesn't give me a villainous impression.
Anya would have been a very interesting Bond girl if she wasn't so bogged right now. Her in LNIS would have been ideal. I can let it slide that she doesn't have much sex appeal for her unique looks alone.
>Anya would have been a very interesting Bond girl if she wasn't so bogged right now
My thoughts exactly
Thomasin and Moner still have some good years left if they don't go full moron and get buccal fat removal
She's a really good actress. Could be a great villain with the right writing.
She would work well as Gala Brand if they wanted to rehash Moonraker into something closer to the novel.
I didn’t see
when I posted but you hit it on the head.
I'd love to see a proper Moonraker adaptation. Doesn't necessarily have to be set in the 50s, though it'd be a bonus if Broccoli finally relented and did a period Bond film especially with a plot so heavily tied to the Cold War, but I just want to see the story done faithfully.
I could see a lot of Cinemaphile anons raging if they faithfully adapted the ending though, saying they'd be cucking Bond out of the girl (despite the bittersweet melancholy of that ending being one of Fleming's best moments)
Sydney Sweeney and Daddario, Christina Hendricks as Moneypenny
lily james
Thomasin Mackenzie, that one chess waifu whose name i cant remember, Moner
What’s Olivia Wilde looking like these days?
>Daniela as your first pick
Utterly based. She's practically tailor-made to be a Bond girl, and she's a decent actress too.
Plus, I don't think any of the Bond films have been to Portugal yet, unless I'm forgetting one.
Sydney is basically a shoo-in to be a Bond Girl eventually.
DEBICKI
Vanessa Kirby, Olivia Cooke, Nathaniel Emmanuel and Katie McGrath are prime Bond girl material. Trying to find actresses I realized just how hard it is to find actresses in current Hollywood with actual sex appeal. I included the slam pig Pugh because it's likely that they'll consider her even if she's pretty fugly.
>piggu
grocc
As a henchwoman, she could work. I don't find her all that attractive though lol.
Everyone wants him. Every facet of people who like James Bond wants him and it's been going on for years. He's not too old, he's at the perfect age for Bond and he's only gotten better with age. Brosnan started when he was 42 and look how that turned out. I think it's happening. Broccoli can be a dumb c**t sometimes but she ain't that stupid, she would eat Cavill up as he is now. We can trust her femcoomer brain to make this happen.
sean connery looked like he was 42 in dr no. i don't know what the problem is, its not a fricking marvel franchise, bond is expected to look like a grown man.
i didn't even like daniel craig because he has absolutely no personality and no on screen charisma, he's got the face and the build but c**t is a husk
Katie as the Bond Girl that's secretly on the villain's side. After seeing Craig's bond get a GILF in the last movies it's only appropriate 40+ year old Katie get her chance with a new younger Bond.
everyone wants cavill
if they install a Black person fleming's ghost will come back and have revenge destroying the project
>Evil twin James Bond starts causing havoc
>Bond gets fired and has to repair his reputation and eliminate his evil twin/clone
>Blofeld is behind it all
>Christina Hendricks and some other milk maids bouncing around on screen, titillating the audience
What should be the name of the next Bond film? The best titles have an instant timelessness to them and seem to draw on unique imagery.
I think it's time they used Risico or Property of a Lady lol it's been anticipated for decades but I think an original title would be better. Something like Death Will Wait, Need to Know, Devil May Care (a title from a nu-Bond novel that's good) Double or Nothing or unused titles from old movies like A Whisper from Hell and Reunion with Death. So many possibilites.
Nolan wants to do a hard reboot almost 1:1 adaption of the book
Which one do you mean? I trust Nolan. Even with his all autismo, he hasn't dropped the ball and is as corrupt and evil as any other Hollywood director besides him putting Denzel's talentless son and ruining Tenet which he remedied afterwards with Oppenheimer which was good, politics aside. I think him and Cavill could be a golden combination of kino.
>Which one do you mean?
First three
>Casino Royale
>Live and Let Die
>Moonraker
This would be kino
Nolan would be a GOD if he decided to scrap the 2005 movie, as good as it was, and adapt the original novels more faithfully, starting with CR. Le Chifree was a miscast as much as I like Mads. Someone like Peter Skarsgard would have been more accurate. i'd love for him to go full Bond autist and do it all correctly.
Is it not know by now Nolan can't direct action for shit. Danny Boyle would've been a great director for a Bond movie. That action scene in Trainspotting 2 where Sickboy and Renton were fighting proves it. It was because of that scene he was in the running for a while. I'd be more excited about watching a Bond movie directed by Boyle than I'd be looking at the prospects of watching a Bond movie directed by Nolan. Nolan would not be up to the task.
Nolan would never be able tro top Martin campbell get fricked with that nonsense.
True enough OP but I never said that so no need for the hostility but unless they get Campbell again which is always welcome then Nolan is fine although great points against him have been raised in this thread.
? Nolan can't do action, can't do character drama
Got any more regurgitated phrases from reddit?
Doesn't make them untrue, plus Nolan is prime reddit material.
True. Like someone else said, Boyle and Dan Stevens are the way to go. I'll allow them to keep Bond blonde with blue eyes for the Ubermensch aesthetic.
For a time, he was the bookies' favourite and it's happened before that someone pops up on their radar, disappears and then gets the part out of nowhere.
https://fandomwire.com/legion-star-dan-stevens-might-dethrone-henry-cavill-and-tom-hardy-to-become-the-next-james-bond-after-becoming-new-favorite-to-get-the-license-to-kill/
there is a pretty good video on youtube about why nolan shouldn't direct a bond film, and its points are well presented
either way it wouldn't be a good idea, TLDR is
>he's too prominent a director and wouldn't let ian productions issue him directions
>he's bad at writing human drama and romance
>can't write comedy
As the other guy noted Risico has a nice ring to it, but off the top of my head maybe "For King and Country"?
Also I wonder if they could adapt one of the continuation 007 novels like No Deals, Mr. Bond (if they're any good). I don't believe many people have gotten around to them, I certainly haven't.
It does have a nice ring to it and the original short story has enough juice to make into a movie, with majorly added story of course. I think a 60's period piece spy story hunting down a drug baron with Italian setting starring Cavill and directed by Nolan would surpass a billie easy and even more.
A Touch Too Much
It's about Bond touching women. It's about a guy with his hand on the button and it's about modern touching technology. You can add another layer about the movie resonating with the audience so hard they start to get emotional. It's a four layered title. Perfection.
We could have a black guy serving the salt when Bond is dining and Bond says: Just another touch. The black guy reveals his breasts and dilator and Bond says: "Too Much'. as he kicks him in the face and runs off with the hot woman.
A stupid idea I’ve had for a while is “God Only Knows” after listening to The Beach Boys song.
>I may not always love you
>But long as there are stars above you
>You never need to doubt it
>I'll make you so sure about it
>God only knows what I'd be without you
>If you should ever leave me
>Though life would still go on believe me
>The world could show nothing to me
>So what good would living do me
Doesn’t that kind of sound like a Bond intro song?
Another round of Bond waifus. I've added Ursula Corbero (spanish semen demon) and Stacy Martin (exotic french beauty) and some other recognizable favourites from Cinemaphile.
Kaya my beloved
Daisy as a Bond Girl who is secretly a gender-bent Jaws and turns on Bond halfway through the movie.
I just want hot bawds, secret agents, nice cars, guns, and no modern politics in a movie
feel like shit just want him back
I liked Skyfall and Quantum of Solace for the most part but I have no interest in watching modern Bond at this point.
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remember what was stolen from you
The only good direction for Bond as a franchise to go in is to adapt the original Casino Royale novel as a period accurate thriller like a classic Le Carre film tbh. The modern bond “international super cop” is completely rubbish and a disgrace to the original character
It won't be Cavill, he's too old and famous. They've never cast a super well established actor for the part and they already said they are looking for someone in their early 30's
yea we already know Broccoli wants it to fail
There's a reason for that, MGM was brought out by Amazon, I wouldn't be surprise if Amazon drops the movie on stream after a month in theaters. I'd be seething too if I were her
I think you're right tbh. It's unfortunate, really. Maybe if Craig hadn't stuck around in the part for so long, we might have seen Cavill as Bond while he was closer to the right age, but even that would've depended on his Superman obligations
Bond works better when it's someone more unknown, anyways. It'd just be distracting if we saw an already-famous actor cast as Bond
If they want money they will cast Henry and let Nolan direct.
Just sayin. Right age now and has the look to a T
>bond 26 opening scene
>bond running through a snowy forest
>they perch their sniper rifle on a cliff overlooking a luxury mansion
>camera pans up to reveal they are wearing full tactical gear with their face covered looking through a sniper scope
>important looking guy walks into his sights
>handler on radio goes "that's our target, take the shot 007"
>bond shoots the man, but as soon as he does it he's surprised by a man wearing similar tactical gear with their face also covered
>they hold bond up and ask them to remove their mask
>bond removes his mask
>it's brosnan, looking good as ever
>"bit old to be playing games in the snow, are we?"
>"no matter, playtime's over"
>dramatic cinematography
>bond is shot in the head, killing him instantly
>he falls over in slow motion with the camera doing a fancy focus pull to focus on on the masked assassin in the background
>to the audience's surprise, the same handler speaks up again, revealing brosnan wasn't the one they were originally talking to
>"splendid job, 007"
>the real bond reveals their face for the first time
>cue hero shot of Sean Bean, looking larger than life, as the newest James Bond
>camera cuts to brosnan trying to get up, upon which Bond turns around quickly and shoots, instantly launching the gunbarrel scene and a bombastic bond opening theme with rock guitars and heavy orchestralization
>Sean Bean
Is that Nick Nack?
i wouldnt like cavil as a bond, he's either too boyish or too pretty but saying that im realizing that the next bond is probably going to be some effeminate man with asian genetics like what zoomers think an ideal man is, or someone like cavill with nu-hollywood plastic muscles and clean shaven armpits
she's so cute bros... slav genes really do make the best looking girls
I'd let her kill me to death.
based kara milovybro
The most aesthetic Bond and most aesthetic Bond girl
It just works
do you by chance also enjoy lea seydoux? she has an equally appealing phenotype to me
I DO also enjoy Lea Seydoux.
It helps her Bond cred that she's one of the very few good parts of Spectre
The film Moonraker was just an excuse to rip-off Star Wars. They took the title, the name of the villain, and the vague idea of his plan involving rockets in some capacity. That's about it, as far as adaptational stuff goes.
Mind you, one problem with doing a proper adaptation of the novel would be that the only two locations would be London and Dover. While I personally wouldn't mind that, a hell of a lot of people (including the producers) expect the whole exotic globetrotting thing from a Bond film, and I think that's partially why Moore's Moonraker is so radically different.
Can always move the big bads base to some other place, like the Bahamas
To add, moonraker was such an impulse ripoff that the end of Spy Who Loved Me said "Bond will return in For Your Eyes Only" then they made moonraker on zero notice instead and just recycled 80% of the plot and sets from SWLM
kek
Living Daylights for me.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAH
UUUUUUUUH
AAAAAAUUUUUUUHH
LIVIN
DAY
LIGHTS
Based hivemind defending the pure Moore kino Spy Who Loved Me over the shitty hack Moonraker
>The film Moonraker was just an excuse to rip-off Star Wars.
The Spy Who Loved Me end titles said Bond would return in For Your Eyes Only. Which obviously they did later because they then did Moonraker because of SW. But frick me, the whole plot is basically exactly the same as The Spy Who Loved Me. Except in that the guy wants to live in the ocean.
I fricking love her so much. She's just the right amount of bimbo and her chemistry with Dalton was great.
>real adaptation of moonraker
>to keep it modern change the nazi to a former soviet
>call it one past dead or some meme title
>Nolan directs
>cavil stars
Instant hit. I'm kinda surprise by how different the book is from the movie
cavill and nolan are both too old and prominent, ian productions prefers young, up and coming bonds and directors early in their careers. also both are too serious for bond and i dont want the next bond to be just a daniel craig 2.0
Cavil can be a villain.
Since when is being too old a mark against a director? Martin Campbell was 62 when he directed Casino Royale
Besides, Nolan's whole career has basically been him building up to doing a Bond film. One of his favourite all time movies is OHMSS
Craig was in his 40s when he did his first Bond ya dummy
Is Octopussy objectively the worst Bond film? I don't mind the opening bit with the clown. But the end fight literally has Bond turn up in a balloon.
That looks so much better. I can't find an image but I hate the shot of the balloon coming in.
not even close, it's no worse than diamonds and the russian guy and kamal are quality villians, also lots of hot babes and india is a neat setting
Diamonds is based because the villain henchmen are gay and it is portrayed as wrong
They are also hilarious
I just view that movie as a comedy
The worst Bond film is the one where he gets AIDS and kills himself.
Octopussy is terrific. The only flaw is that the circus near the end with the nuke shows the audience enjoying the circus. I can forgive a lot of unrealistic stuff in a Bond movie, but nobody in any universe has ever enjoyed a circus.
Other than that, I will not tolerate a bad word said about Octopussy.
The opening with the clown is great. The middle part of the movie is a big switch off because the plot never really gets going and I don't like Moore's chemistry with Octopussy. Then you have the whole train stuff and the movie feels like it should have ended. But oh wait, you have Bond going back on a fricking balloon for a pointless end fight.
I feel like Octopussy is kind of a prototype of The Living Daylights. A few of the setpieces and pacing are very similar.
It's further helped by the fact that Maud Adams and Moore had really good chemistry. Honestly, I feel like Octo is one of better Moore movies, probably only after Spy Who Loved Me and FYEO and maybe Live and Let Die imo.
How do you feel about For Your Eyes Only? I really enjoyed that, perhaps not the ice skater though. Needed some balance post Moonraker tbh.
>I feel like Octopussy is kind of a prototype of The Living Daylights
How so? Living Daylights is my favourite Bond tbh.
I just feel like the actual plot just kinda gets lost and rushed in there. Not the most memorable of bad guys either.
different anon here
I agree the final bad guy is less memorable than Soviet George C Scott and turban guy
but most Bond villains aren't that good
Carver
Trevelyan
Christopher Walken
Salamanca
Blofeld in YOLT and DAF (not OHMSS, frick Telly Savalas and his stupid voice)
All of the other Bond villains are pretty bland.
>but most Bond villains aren't that good
That is the weird thing about Bond. A lot of the bad guy plots, bad guys and henchmen end up kinda as lame ducks? And yet other stuff feels so iconic. Dr No is an iconic villain name but practically no one remembers his plot using a machine to destabilise rocket launches.
Probably one of the strongest coalescing of bad guy, plot and henchmen is Goldfinger.
FYEO is very good, it's been a while since I've watched it, but my biggest gripe is that it felt like it had too many climaxes and it was a bit exhausting. But I'd have to rewatch to better substantiate that claim.
Other than that, it had a nice down-to-earth plot after some of sillier installments of Moore's Bond. A fun revenge plot with a multitude of henchmen who get knock out one-by-one.
>How so?
The smuggling plot feels pretty similar to Living Daylights. Orlov is a bit similar to Whitaker. Both movies had bits taken from Fleming's Property of a Lady short story IIRC. John Barry's score in both movies is also very similar. The Living Daylights is inarguably the better movie, but I definitely feel like there was some shared blood between the two films.
As a side note, a lot of people dislike the circus scene, but I really like it. There aren't many moments in the franchise where Bond gets to be presented in such a hero-like fashion to a group of ordinary people.
>too many climaxes
"That's detente" line is fire.
>The Living Daylights is inarguably the better movie, but I definitely feel like there was some shared blood between the two films.
I'll have to watch them back to back sometimes because I just don't feel this.
>As a side note, a lot of people dislike the circus scene, but I really like it.
I disliked a bunch of stuff in India tbh more so than that. The train bit is fine and feels more like a climax.
I think all the 80s Bonds feel sorta similar, even though it's two different actors. they're all directed by John Glen, they all have a similar level of production value, and the silly/serious spectrum, and are all excellent. but I don't really feel like Octopussy and The Living Daylights are specifically linked.
The Graig ones besides CR easily are worse. Octopussy is a classic Bond movie even if silly and meandering. Graig's are an assault on the character and a bastardization of his canon.
The woman who owns Bond now literally despises the IP and does everything she can to subvert it. Bond is either a Black person, she's selling it outright to Bezos, or the next movie will be a streaming series.
elliott page as bond, hunter schafer as a bond girl
The sexual spectrum really is horseshoe shaped after all...
BOND 26 LORE LEAKED: JAMES HERBERT BOND GETS IN TROUBLE WITH THE URUGUAYAN AUTHORITIES FOR ATTEMPTING TO SMUGGLE BOOTLEG CIGARETTES FROM BRAZIL. THE SAID AUTHORITIES WILL PROCEED TO PUT BOND THROUGH AN INDUSTRIAL GRINDER AS CONSQUENCE, BUT BOND WILL BE ABLE TO GET OUT IF THIS SITUATION BY HAVING HOT STEAMY PASSIONATE GAY SEX WITH THE PRESIDENT OF ARGENTINA.
The latest Bond novel (On His Majesty’s Secret Service) has him try and stop a threat to the Coronation of King Charles III. Bond now eats yougurt for breakfast, drinks mineral water and drives safer. The villains in the book are thinly veiled Brexiteer types who want to limit immigration, are sceptical of Global Warming and don't like the EU.
This is not a parody. This is real.
Yep
Yeah, we've already discussed this. Try reading the thread first next time
Soz lad I glossed over it.
OHMSS --
Is there a chance of appealing to Nostalgia with a return to 1990s era Bond reboot.
Begin the reboot at the end of the Cold War?
Knocked up a couple of Cavill images for fun. Shame he looks so perfect but I really don't believe he has the charisma to carry the series.
Kino
the spy who loved me
just use my idea lol
aww frick yeah aston martin lagonda. one of my favorite car designs frick the haters
>Idris Elba
Frick off, moron.
Honestly I'm just hoping they decide to lighten the tone a little. Let Bond be a touch silly again.
James Bond vs The anonymous hacker known only as Cinemaphile
>AI wojak Bond
wtf it knows about wojaks
Bond's dead to me now
weet ik
If you think about it the lyrics to For Your Eyes Only are the opposite of Diamonds Are Forever
Anyone got a Mega?
What would a third Timothy Dalton Bond have been like? It seems a shame that the rights issue stopped another one being made. And by the time that shit was over, they thought it more prudent to recast.
I don't think they had much choice, apparently Dalton never really won over American audiences. Shame since he was the best Bond. I'd love to have seen a third Dalton film. Though maybe not if it came at the cost of Brosnan being in Goldeneye. Hard to imagine that movie without Brosnan, he was so perfect for it.
>apparently Dalton never really won over American audiences
As far as I am aware, Dalton's Bond just got a weird reception from a lot of people. He wasn't silly like Moore's Bond and he wasn't a playboy like Connery's Bond.
Dalton was brooding and more serious, and I think audiences just really didn't know how to perceive him. Reading the reviews of Living Daylights feels like old men yelling at clouds. Ebert called Dalton "humorless" which is strange because I think TLD has a fair amount of humor and Dalton has a good dry delivery.
Maybe it's a generational thing because nowadays, everyone really likes the Living Daylights and License to Kill.
>Ebert called Dalton "humorless" which is strange because I think TLD has a fair amount of humor and Dalton has a good dry delivery.
Agreed, I never understood this criticism of Dalton. He does humor really well (and still does, as anyone who has seen Hot Fuzz knows)
I think you're right about the weird reception he got, Dalton's Bond goes straight back to Fleming, darker, grittier, much more down to earth, when audiences at the time had been weaned on 15 years of Moore's wisecracking globetrotting superhero Bond - Dalton's back-to-basics Bond fricked with the formula and paid the price.
On the upside it does mean his movies stand the test of time much better than most Bond films do. I'd sooner watch Daylights or Licence than any of Moore's (except maybe Spy who loved me) and probably most of Connery's too. And Craig's (Craig is really only doing what Dalton did thirty years ago anyway)
>taking anything Ebert said seriously
Even back in the day, he was a joke. He was the poster boy of critics moron normgroids listened to because they can't be bothered to try a movie out and had to have some homosexual tell them if it's 'good' to him or not. Some things never change. Graig's didn't do what Dalton's movies did. They were dry british Jason Bourne movies, just because they were le serious doesn't make them similar. Dalton's movies weren't THAT serious anyway as he had a ski chase using a cello and massive set piece action scenes too. He had the perfect mix of camp and Flemmingness. I'd agree with him doing great with the humour. Consider how in TLD, when he takes Koskov he says 'don't worry Georgi we have a pipeline to the west' as a phrase seemingly and then he gives this really funny sideeye and the camera shows that he literally meant a pipeline. Great understated humour. His movies were perfection and should be the template for the new Bond movies.
Who knows? Maybe tonally, it would have been like Goldeneye, but I don't think the plots would have been anywhere near the same.
>Kate Bush was offered to sing Moonraker but turned it down
Reading the lyrics it would have fit her perfectly. This is why you didn’t break out into America until 2022 you silly shit
Good for her for not bending the knee to what was pretty much the 1970s equivalent of capeshit.
Let's not be that harsh to Moonraker. It has more soul and in it's own way cinematic dignity than any Reddit Marbel movie.
>Graig
>10 matches
what is this middle aged balding man meme?
Doomed from the start because I'm pretty sure the producers think they're off on the best Bond entries (and I'm sure the general audience think so). No Time to Die was without a doubt the worst Bond film ever made, the issue is that the people who made it (and will make the next one) do not see it this way.
That's why Casino Royale was so great, they knew the one before it was a turd so they had to step up to the plate.
Anyway my recommendation would be Cavill or Dan Stevens, get Boyle or a director that can do action (the top gun 2 and tron guy?). Character involvement but not personal to Bond. Theem needs a male rock singer.
>dan stevens
I could see it, could be inspired casting. He's at the prime age for Bond too.
i want Hunter Schafer as bond girl and Elliot Page as Bond
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