>Major character dies offscreen for no reason
What a garbage movie
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>Major character dies offscreen for no reason
>Major character dies offscreen for no reason
What a garbage movie
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This movie was kindof a hit and a miss for me at least. Yeah, it felt awkward him dying off screen. They should've let him be killed by air gun man, skip the wife being killed. Then cut straight to the car crash.
The beginning of was cool but the main villain was cringe. I rewatched it recently and came to the same conclusion.
I don't know if that was the point, but it made sense to me since he only died because he slipped off for a moment. It gave me a sense of how fragile the human life is and how trivial death is. Him dying in a cool fight with slow motion and some epic classic music would give the audience a different message. Again, that's just my opinion.
Dying offscreen because the oblivious grandma talked to a random hispanic guy is stupid.
Him getting distracted by a random hoe in a pool while hiding from a killer is stupid. Nothing in his character alluded to this weakness.
I disagree, him dying because a grandma spoke with a random Hispanic made it realistic since that's how it rows irl. Him getting distracted by a random hoe didn't need to have a random tip previously because we didn't get any flashback or backstory about his life through the story and randomly giving exposition to the audience so we can deduce how he'll behave in a certain situation is not only extremely unrealistic, but also hack writing. Oh, he only fricked up twice in the entire movie and both of his little mistakes led to his demise which fits the theme of the movie while also being realistic. That's just my opinion though.
he wasn't distracted, he was killed in his own hotel room and she was in the pool
They obviously shot the girl in the pool aiming for him. He got to the front of his hotel room and let off atleast three shots (Shells by his body).
>random Hispanic guy
>random hoe
They were not “random” dum-dum it’s a movie
As I said the mexicans wire tapped the call in the book to get the location. In the movie they are following the taxi unexplained. Literally a random mexican guy.
Girl offering beer at a pool motel is literally a random hoe given the previous plot.
>character is known for having strong principles
>the film is about principles
>character breaks his principles
>he dies
whoa... that was hard to get
That was deliberate you dummy.
It was to show that nobody cares that you are a good guy. He fricked up and paid the price. The world doesn't care about you.
Fricked up how? Those Mexican know what he looks like? They can show up guns blazing at a motel and know immediately, he's the target, so he has zero fighting chance? Explain that, without sounding like an idiot, like your previous posts.
he was dead the moment he picked up the briefcase and got involved in drug war
The Coen Brothers like to break movie tropes; and killed off, who appeared to be, the 'good guy' by the halfway mark.
it happened the same way in the book, nothing to do with the coens
I read the book not long ago and he dies the exact same way. You don't find out he's dead until Bell's POV.
It's kino and makes sense in regards to the theme of the story. Moss was dead the moment he took that money.
Fricking liar. The girl is not some random motel patron in the pool. She's some teenage hooker he picked up and gave a grand to, without wanting sex.
Yeah but he dies in the same way moron.
I didn't say the entire fricking plot and all the characters were the same.
Although the movie is a very faithful adaptation.
By same way I mean "off-screen" (I guess off-page in this instance) which is what OP is complaining about.
>reading comprehension
In the book the mexicans trace the call between the wife and the cop. Way more convincing than the old lady thing.
I don't like the Coen brothers films other than Fargo. They all feel bland and lacking. The only adaptation I've seen better than the book is Francis Ford Coppola's Dracula. Directors should stick to original stories or historical films.
Big nothing movie.
Different trends in art
NCFOM is what I'd call "post-kino formalism" the practice of making whole films around smaller and smaller shreds of previous movie tropes. It's a kind of deconstruction that tries to find one essential conflict in a genre, like NCFOM does with westerns. It's still a western because of the formal trappings, but it's morally and intellectually stripped bare to ensure the viewer feels what they're supposed to feel. It doesn't rely on any wider system of values. It acknowledges westerns are over, but still tries to profit from them.
Very blackpilled and anti-art compared to something like Children of Men
Jesus christ dude shut the frick up.
I already said my opinion, so that would be natural, but you're provoking me. Is this an intellectual discussion thread now?
both of those movies are equally israeli and not even for the reasons you describe. You trying to invent terminology for something that already exists is pathetic btw
At least you tried to post, maybe your next reply will have a point instead of seething.
Since you're still crying I'll add that not knowing the actual reasons why those movies are ZOGcore is akin to defending them
being evasive to protect yourself doesn't impress me
>protect yourself
Anon your entire pretentious persona exists to protect your insecurities
>your pet theory
Not a pet theory, the movie was written by the notorious Cormac Mccarthy, all of whose work is inherently israeli and/or atheistic.
Children Of Men is about protecting a Black personbaby. More self-explanatory
Bot, or mechanical turk? It doesn't matter. Carry on sir
You can expose your pet theory, and be called pretentious by idiots just like I was. No credit for acting aloof.
Didn't McCarthy write the original screenplay in the 80s? I have a theory that he saw The Terminator and decided to take the basic trope of an unstoppable hitman and turn it into a philosophical statement.
It could've been made then too, people weren't ready for that level of cynicism. Just because it existed in the past doesn't make it less prominent now.
Might as well say cormac mccarthy was inspired by the angry video game nerd
Imagine being this much of a tryhard pretentious homosexual
>making stuff up is tryhard
get good
>post-kino formalism
You will deservedly die alone.
Ain't no lobos
at the end, why did the children only go up to mopey cut man instead of the other driver?
Other driver was critically injured. Of course the super villain walked away though. Not a dumb ending at all.
Yeah.
How come he didn't say, "Old men... assemble!" And then Tommy Lee Jones appears and they have an EPIC battle with Anton Sugar??
And then Thanos gets shot and says, "Well, that just happened." And then Spider-Man swings in and uses the infinity stones to go back in time so he can stop Thanos from taking the money and then they all go and get some shwarma.
And the post-credits scene is The Judge raping a kid and says, "Fine. I'll do it myself."
What a garbage movie!
Marvel movies are like prequel Star Wars movies. You just waiting on the epic lightsaber fight at the end and everything else is filler.
NCFOM is trash because they built up the tension and pushed it off a cliff for a pseudo intelluctual ending about a old cops dream.
>Every movie has to have the same level of build up and pay off
I take it you're fresh out of high school huh
>I dreamnt my dad let me borrow some money. Then I saw him waiting by a fire
>Roll credits
pic related is probably you.
what's "pseudo intellectual" about the ending? it's crystal clear and very heartfelt
Is Cinemaphile really this fricking stupid? No wonder we have constant netflix schlock and capeshit threads
>NOOOOOOO bro this movie sucks! Why didn't the heckin good guy get into a badass gunfight and dual wield pistols and kill all the hispanics and save the day!
Fricking have a nice day Black person
>Why didn't the heckin good guy get into a badass gunfight
They did. Then the villain blew up a car to steal medicine and heal is own shotgun wonds. How can capeshit compete.
Difference is in capeshit or schlock they would have been throwing quips at each other and walking off gunshot wounds, the gunfight was done in an intelligent way
> throwing quips at each other and walking off gunshot wounds
homie they super heroes. The villain in NCFOM was overly powerful in contrast to everyone else. It was cringe.
He wasn't overly powerful, anytime he had the upperhand it was justified because he just made more intelligent plays, did you even watch the movie?
Moss also came out on top of his encounter with Anton.
>homie they super heroes
Black person worshipping culture really did a number on you, you're brainwashed
What are you talking about?
Everything he does is believably done.
>b-b-but he kills a hotel room of armed guys all by himself!!
He got a similar hotel room and studies the layout in order to know where cover and hiding spots are.
Everything, even the random car crash at the end, is done deliberately and realistically.
>random car crash
>done deliberately
A cowboy movie for "smart" dumb homies
In the car crash, Chigur isn't wearing a belt. It's also to show that no matter what code or rules he follows you hold no power or control over what happens to you. It's no country for anyone, not only old men.
They all have John Woo on the brain. Or John Wick, if you prefer.
>1980s Texas
>Kill a police officer and escape with no manhunt
>Shootout in hotel with Llwelyn
>Returns to same hotel to kill other bounty hunter
People give this movie a pass for the goofiest shit.
>for no reason
The reason is it adapted a book where it happened. And there was a point to it. You're not the main character, no one is. There's no blaze of glory, no "dying by your own terms". You just die.
>The reason is it adapted a book where it happened. And there was a point to it. You're not the main character, no one is. There's no blaze of glory, no "dying by your own terms". You just die.
I couldn't help it but read it in his voice
It's not an edgy take, it's just how it is. Never implied any nihilism within it. I still live my best life, but the story the movie and book show is that there are no "badasses", just people who die stupid deaths if they play stupid games.
I wrote an essay from the perspective of deconstructionism on this film.
Anyone interested in reading all five pages of it?
No.
I'll take that as a yes then, thou contratarían.
Then again it's probably 2deep4(You) anyway ...
Movies are mental torture disguised as entertainment.
You lost.
Llewellyn fricked up taking the pussy bait and died for it. Don't do it anons or some cartels will blow you away with uzis.