MAJOR LOTR PLOT HOLE

How the F could Sauron wear the ring without becoming invisible?

This fricking plot hole ruins the entire story. The ENTIRE story.

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    well he wore it outside his gauntlet

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      But it makes clothes invisible too as seen with Frodo.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It doesn't make shadows invisible in direct sunlight therefore the ring is reflecting photons, not actually rendering the wearer (or their possessions) truly invisible.

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine if he forgot to make the Ring make itself invisible.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Imma try to grab with this numenorian with the hand that has the one ring, I sure as hope he doesnt grab a sword or something

    Sauron was a buffon

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isildur killing Sauron by cutting his fingers off is just a dumb executive decision from Peter Jackson. Originally, Isildur simply retrieved the Ring from Sauron's corpse after Elendir and Gil-Galad killed him (and died in the process).

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does the ring actually make people literally invisible? I thought that might be an adaptation thing like the literal eye of Sauron.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The reason Bilbo went invisible is because he was being pulled into a different realm, the one where the spirit of Sauron dwells, and where the spirits of the Nine dwell.
      So, as mentioned, Sauron is already in the realm of the shades, but also manifests here. So wearing it doesn't effect him the same way.

      You are half right, anon. See above.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        This. Is the correct awnser

        But really it should've been that the ring enhances one's natural ability, the Hobits are good at hiding and so the ring would make you invisible. Whereas men lust for power and it would make them great kings and warriors.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >natural ability
          >the Hobits are good at hiding

          If they don't keep the grass cut in The Shire, do all the Hobbits just go invisible? What about to each other?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          BS, Isildur also turned invisible when wearing it, which is why he used it to escape the orc band

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >name is 'I see u dur'
            >turns invisible

            bravo Tolkien

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, which is why I said it should've been that way. But it wasn't.

            >natural ability
            >the Hobits are good at hiding

            If they don't keep the grass cut in The Shire, do all the Hobbits just go invisible? What about to each other?

            At multiple times in the books and movies we are shown how good Hobbits are at hiding. They crash the council of Elrond without anyone knowing, like basically just hiding behind pillars and shit. And then they are able to sneak into Mordor past the Easterlings and Orcs. Not to mention that no one really knows the Shire exists, and most other races don't even know hobbits exist.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          cringe, you play too much videogames
          Hobbits are also good at eating, should the ring allow them to pig out? What about being good at farming or brewing or being peaceful?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        This.

        Also Elves can literally still see you if you were to wear the ring because they're so naturally in touch with the spirit realm.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes its literally invisible

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The reason Bilbo went invisible is because he was being pulled into a different realm, the one where the spirit of Sauron dwells, and where the spirits of the Nine dwell.
      So, as mentioned, Sauron is already in the realm of the shades, but also manifests here. So wearing it doesn't effect him the same way.

      You are half right, anon. See above.

      The reason Bilbo went invisible is because he found a magic ring that turned the wearer invisible.

      http://www.tolkien.cro.net/tolkien/changes.html
      https://www.ringgame.net/riddles.html

      If you think Tolkien was some master planner and not the George Lucas of his day, I'm sorry to disappoint you.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I genuinely don't care about the Doylist explanation, dude, not in this case. Tokien's autism construction was strong enough that adding new properties to old stuff he came up with wasn't a problem.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        You aren't wrong, but Tolkien was intelligent in that he came up with a framework which explained away retcons like this.

        Tolkein was a tard who didn't notice this problem.

        He did though.

        This. Is the correct awnser

        But really it should've been that the ring enhances one's natural ability, the Hobits are good at hiding and so the ring would make you invisible. Whereas men lust for power and it would make them great kings and warriors.

        Cringe ethnocentric moron

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Tolkien was intelligent in that he came up with a framework which explained away retcons like this.

          Nah Tolkien nerds can get to frick with this.

          >Actually he was lying because the book we know in OUR WORLD as 'The Hobbit' was actually a false narrator account by Bilbo recounting his tale to Frodo and also he lied and then he was ashamed of the lie that's why there are two versions also it's time travel and multiverses.

          The narration also mentions post offices and steam trains. Simpler answer:

          >It's a book.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            In Tolkien's head cannon the books he wrote were actually just translations of documents written in universe.

            So any inconsistencies could be explained like that.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              I reel it back a little, this is a fun explanation.

              Like a coherent schizo: the elves are telling him their tales and he's translating them into bedtime stories for his kids.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                It double works when you consider Tolkien's idea was to create a mythos for Western Europe, and mythoses(sp?) are often contradictory, the nature of decades/centuries of cultural baggage.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            He wrote the Hobbit then decided to expand on it. Everything after that was meticulously planned you stupid Black person homosexual provocateur attention gay.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              This is exactly what I said, anon.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                No you didn't. You equated him to George Lucas.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                No my post said the following (verbatim)
                >He wrote the Hobbit then decided to expand on it. Everything after that was meticulously planned you stupid Black person homosexual provocateur attention gay.

                Go back and reread it.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                ...that was my post

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Mine came first. Prior art.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are you having a stroke?

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                I thought I might have food poisoning. But I doubt it would cause something like this?

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              It actually wasn't he wrote by the seat of his pants and reading his drafts is amazing, history of middle earth series is an incredible look into his writing process especially the lord of the rings period
              > bingo and marmaduke

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >If you think Tolkien was some master planner and not the George Lucas of his day, I'm sorry to disappoint you.
        This. So much this /thread

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        True, but Tolkien's autism was so strong that he managed to retcon things almost seamlessly. Reading up on his calculations on changes in Elf lifespan and the number of elves in every single generation from the start is... weird

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're as invisible as a Cayman Island shareholder.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tolkein was a tard who didn't notice this problem.

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anon, Tom also did not turn invisible.

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn’t they just send the ring to the undying lands?

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because Bilbo and Frodo were just nameless everymans. If Gandalf, Galadriel, or Saurman has wielded it they would have been able to actually use it.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      > actually use it.
      And what would that be like?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It corrupts everyone who gets their hands on it, even the most benevolent of people will turn into an butthole if they get their hands on it. People with the power to use it will turn in to tyrants. Galadriel has a whole dialogue about it in Fellowship. She would use it to be become the queen of middle earth, and all shall love her and despair.

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        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >be powerful already
          >put on ring
          >now you're still powerful but also an butthole
          BRAVO

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Elves are below Maiar like the wizards or Sauron. The ring would corrupt Galadriel. I don't know if it would corrupt the wizards. But maybe, I don't know what you would do with the ring, it's a part of Sauron, it's not going to kill him.

        Really things happened the way they happened because Eru Iluvatar wanted it to happen that way. So the ring was destroyed in the way it was because thats what was supposed to happen

        Rememer that Balrogs are corrupted Maiar.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Elves are below Maiar like the wizards or Sauron. The ring would corrupt Galadriel. I don't know if it would corrupt the wizards. But maybe, I don't know what you would do with the ring, it's a part of Sauron, it's not going to kill him.

      Really things happened the way they happened because Eru Iluvatar wanted it to happen that way. So the ring was destroyed in the way it was because thats what was supposed to happen

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    the ring amplifies a user's latent power (that's why it's called a ring of power silly)
    hobbits are sneaky little creatures so that's why the ring amplifies their stealth, making them invisible.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    has anyone translated LotR to Striggoi yet?

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everything in LOTR is supposed to be taken as hearsay.

    Its a translation of a book written by Bilbo, Frodo, Sam and his daughter, about things they heard from the people they met. All Silmarillion lore is what Bilbo learnt in Rivendell from the Elves.

    Its supposed to be taken as unreliable and LEGENDARY.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anon... That's a picture of a volcano. Wtf are you talking about?

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sauron never wore the Ring. His raiment of flesh did. Sauron is an Ainur, his essence is not corporeal. His physical form is basically clothes.
    And as several other anons have pointed out, he's wearing the Ring outisde his gauntlet here, anyway.

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