>Make a movie that is the antithesis of why audiences enjoy Disney princess musicals
>This is the movie you choose for your anniversary
How the FRICK did they botch it this bad? This studio has decades of experience making these types of movies, and then they went and made the opposite. It almost feels like it was on purpose.
Man I wish we got the villain power couple
God damn that's a fun couple. I'm guessing the queen would eventually usurp him but having a villain couple that are genuinely in love would be really good.
Wymyn can't be evil in the current year.
Easy, Disney is overrun with talentless nepobabies and activists.
All of the people who knew a good story got fired for wanting to have sex with women. Now it's women who want to have sex with women whose only experience with telling a story is rationalizing their own shitty behavior.
do not get your opinions from south park, jesus.
You are blaming a cartoon for the evidence of my own eyes and ears. You may be enthralled by the shadow puppets but I can see the sun.
the problem with disney is that now the villains are the protagonists and the actual heroes get villainized
I know they screwed up. But how is it an antithesis?
It's the opposite of why people enjoy Disney princess musicals. The villain seems justified, our heroine comes across as selfish, the animal sidekick provides no heart or moral compass and is just annoying, most of the songs are forgettable, our heroine's song is a feet-stomping rebellion chant while our villain's song is an upbeat tune, there is no love story, and the "storybook ending" is very weird and confusing. Why the frick is our hero allowed to grant wishes but not Magnifico?
It's kind of astonishing how inept the film is.
Good songs can carry a lot of terrible plot points but they got a random pop musician with no track record with musical theater.
People crave an old fashioned Disney villain - well they treat Magnifico like he is but in the story he's blatantly got a point and many find him more sympathetic then the lead.
Hell the movie itself LOOKS bad - people who know nothing/don't care about animation note how off it looks. It's kind of a fascinating bad. How could Disney think this would play well especially when so many people just wait for their movies on Disney+ these days?
>Magnifico like he is but in the story he's blatantly got a point and many find him more sympathetic then the lead.
No, MCU villains "got a point" then go full moron due to plot so the hero can be in the end, Magnifico was literally right about everything, he made an utopia, he stopped dangerous wishes, he made the world objectivelly better while Aisha got rid of him for her insane free magic wishes for all even crazy and evil people plan.
Finding out Aisha is muslim makes her insane free magic bullshit very ironic
So her wishes are granted by djinn whose souls are made of fire and will damn her to Hell for using their magic? Neat.
No wonder that the father of all Muslims (Ishmael) is called a Wild Donkey of a Man in Scripture.
They even gave him a tragic backstory, plus with him gone what's to stop those greedy thieves that destroyed his homeland from invading the kingdom now that the all powerful wizard king isn't there to protect it?
Should have had the star be the quirky manic pixie eldritch boyfriend like the initial script
Hetero romance in MY modern Disney movie? Frick out of here with that shit. I still subscribe to the theory that the starboy was supposed to be explicitly nonbinary so that WDAS can claim the first nonbinary romance shown, and Disney executives said no to the nonbinary part, so they just scrapped the entire romance as a frick-you to Disney.
You guys are so fragile and easily triggered lmao you get hetero romances in every disney film, you just got Elemental but you forgot about it already.
That was made by Pixar, not WDAS. WDAS is the blight.
>You guys are so fragile
and you guys are moronic, gays just need a character to be a gay to defend a shit movie to death, homosexuals are slaves to corporations and you love it
>WHERE THE FRICK ARE MY HETERO RELATIONSHIPS REEEEEEEE
>h-haha gays are the ones desperate for representation
lol
100% of shows has gays in it now, more like those corpos just need to put 1 homosexual there for your kind to defend it like rabid dogs from all criticism
Who was the gay in Wish, I never saw it because I have taste but since you're so worked up and offended about it you surely know.
the fat chinese chef i think, i also never saw it (cuz i hate disney) but my point still stands, that just by having a gay character, most gays will simply shill for the movie like they were paid to do it
>the fat chinese chef I think
>I think
You are pathetic lol, you are getting bullied by your own imagination.
>I think
i didn't see it, moron
but that's the gay character in this movie, you can look it up then to confirm if i was wrong or not.
MY POINT is that gays will defend anything that has gays in it, is not specific to this movie, strawmaning your way to discussions is badfaith tactic, gays like you love to employ
You are so mad and so stupid that you have imagined a gay character to get mad at and have imagined me defending Wish. You will be on Cinemaphile seething until you die, imo.
i'm not mad at the character, i'm mad at gays the defend everything cuz it has gays in it, one example of it is x-men (the comics) is really bad but gays love it cuz it was gays in it
I think you're just easily triggered tbh, you're just ranting about gays in a thread about a movie you havent seen.
You haven't seen the movie, why are you here then? moron
Because I posted:
And then you got offended, which is hilarious since you're ranting at a gay who wanted a cute het ship in the movie lol
What about this?
You're the one that started the whole argument
You shouldnt have posted cringe at me:
If you care about hetero representation this much go get a gf.
Wheres the lie? Who invented the term “queerbaiting” and wrote dozens of thinkpieces about it? Those dang dirty st8s?
>Gets SKREOOOOOONKED
Stop posting this shit movie mate!? Japan exploits its workers!
>Still made more the Shitzilla Minus Hit
You people really enjoy a bad japanese CGI film with terrible attempts at melodrama dont you?
Its just a weird culture war thing, which is sad since the Godzilla staff was crazy underpaid. Great movie but it was great despite the lack of money, not because of it.
This is exactly the type of film that happens when you want to appease shareholders who want unlimited quarterly gains and have them call the shots instead of making a film that is quality built to still be a seller for decades
This is the most corporate boardroom envisioned film imaginable and no wonder it then appealed to no one in the real world
>Disney
>trying to appease shareholders
All their main shareholders are angry at them for making clearly doomed projects no one but they like while they are all doubling down on changing nothing, just like WB.
the problem is that liberal women are in power now
Nope, the shareholders are dumbasses who are voting to extend Iger’s contract and not give board seats out because he’s their golden boy who lets them call the shots
It's because Iger is good at min-maxing DEIA quotas. The board gets paid bonuses the more DEI their movies have, so they keep getting paid even when the movies flop
The animators wanted to make a gay nonbinary Star boy. The shareholders said no so the animators turned starboy in to a star mascot blob in revenge
We'll see at the next shareholder proxy vote.
Peltz is almost a caricature of a stereotypical amoral corporate dude himself, but he's asking basic questions that Disney is choosing not to address about the creative direction that really aren't pure accounting shit.
Emerson Collective on the other hand is absolutely on the ideology above quarterly profits side and they're team Iger.
And the Blackwell capital people are opposed to Iger AND peltz and are 100 percent soulless investing.
It's actually a split.
Last check
Iger
The current board.
JP morgan
Glass lewis
Peltz
Trian fund management of course.
ISS Institutional Shareholder Service
Technical point. It's not the shareholders themeslves but the institutional investors who are absolutely more insulated from the performance of the stock. You're right in that they did pick Iger over Chapek, but until Peltz they really didn't have an alternative direction.
Why do these scrapped concepts look so much better than the final film? Usually "what could have been" deleted scenes/storylines are interesting but you could see why they were left out. With these it's simply inexplicable.
Jennifer Lee and her are of woke underqualified DEI hires killed Disney animation. I honestly wouldn't mind about the woke hiring policy if they hired wokes with actual talent instead of just focusing on hiring based off race and sexuality with no regards for any talent they may or may not have. The fact that Jennifer Lee and the entire team behind Wish hasn't been shitcanned yet is proof we will be getting more of the same for the next decade.
Why did they even set the story up this way? Why not show Rosas as not thriving and not happy, and people go there in hopes that their wish is granted, but otherwise they live in abject squalor?
Jennifer Lee made the movie for herself and herself only.
The activist wokes she hired made their dream communist propaganda film and the normies rejected it
stfu moron
So everyone was brown originally?
Damn Americans really think that Spaniards are brown, that's funny they have a lot in common with racists
They're Moors. Also Asha is based on some Sub-Saharan African tribe for some reason according to the art book
A guy called magnifico being a moor
Yep that's moronic typical americans
>Also Asha is based on some Sub-Saharan African tribe
The berbers aren't sub Saharan
>think
Some are brown most aren't but it doesn't mater cuz ethnicity matters more to them than race, except if the person is black or asian
Wait are these supposed to be spanish?
I don't understand why the frick they treat spaniards different from Italians ethnicity-wise. It's the exact same. Couople of blondes here and there, mostly brunette, kinda tan sometimes but inside European standards.
What's with the black woman braids anyway?
>don't understand why the frick they treat spaniards different from Italians ethnicity-wise.
Americans believe that Spain is the same as Mexico and that Spaniards look like most mexicans
Yeah, Spain made such a habit out of colonizing brown people that America associates the Spanish language with brown people. So because Spain speaks Spanish, they're brown too.
I don't understand how with all the woke care they're supposed to take with different cultures and ethnicities they never bothered to clear that extremely dumb stereotype.
Cuz "white" people that speak Spanish is not diverse enough for them, is that simple
I remember when i was in chicago for a year studying, i was talking to a couple of blondes at a party and they were asking my nationality. I asked them to guess and they were all:
>Germany
Nope
>France
Nope
And after a few I told them that I was from Spain and they fricking said
>But you're white haha.
I wish I was making this up. They were dead serious and I genuinely didn't know what to respond to that. One thing is to think lots of people in spain are tan, but genuinely being puzzled at talking to a blondeish guy who happens to be from Spain was beyond me.
Here I was thinking this was just dumb blondes at parties who had this impression.
Well that's how most Americans perceive spaniards and the Spanish language and I dont blame them cuz that's mainly the fault of American media
Because they're americans who literally give out money and positions based on skin color now, and define mexicans as brown, and spaniards as mexicans.
>thread already went full moron
just purge this shit jannies
Your movie bombed, troony. Just accept it.
I just got here wanting to have a chuckle, instead I got cancer from the severe autism on display
>I got cancer from the severe autism on display
Where do you think you are?
I suggest you ROLL with that shit, and be prepared to call a bunch of dumbfricks some fricking Gabachos for not respecting your POC status.
Particularly MECHA chicanos who aren't functional in spanish and think the word latinx is a good idea.
Fun fact. If you are loud enough in spanish, many neolibs will just let you do whatever you want.
t. Puto Chino.
Jennifer Lee. The fish rots from the head.
Same people who killed the love of my life
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