Superman is extremely lame and his only fans are Superdaddygays. How would (you) fix that and make him as cool as Batman?
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Superman is extremely lame and his only fans are Superdaddygays. How would (you) fix that and make him as cool as Batman?
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idk what it is about your pic rel, OP, but it evokes the coolness that i expect from superheroes and we need to assess it and figure out why
i think its the combination of the artstyle and his facial expression
Strong happy and calm
Oh hey Superdaddygay. Still spending every waking moment obsessed and seething about THE hero?
I don't know if we really have "Superdaddy"gays or if there's a version of him that exists in media where that description is accurate. I think we're probably more concerned of sliding too far in the opposite direction with him being a completely powerless pushover following unpopular recent adaptations where he's much darker and violent and both extremes are very silly and not fun. He's best when he's a strange problem-solver going on weird adventures rather than a lonely god among men or a dumb cuddly teddy bear.
Superman isn't supposed to be cool. He's a square with a big heart who tries to do good by everyone he meets. That's the appeal of the character.
My pitch for a uniqueish retelling of Superman is just to turn a lot of the lore into straight up shonen shit. Like making Blue Superman just a limited time power up he gets when he absorbs enough energy but also deeply damages his body.
New 52 sort of tried that with the solar battery tricks. Didn't help much.
If you want to borrow from shonen, have his fights go more like OP MCs instead of the usual formula where he gets knocked around by anyone C-list until he has enough and actually uses his powers.
What are the cool kids doing this days?
Making podcasts?
He's fine actually. Only things he needs is his son to be straight.
Clark being like a 6'6 behemoth of a man only to have his son come out as a little twink is funny though.
Make a World's Finest Cartoon in which every episode involves one of the two running into eachother on the crime/disaster/investigation. Superman and Batman always work well together like two eccentric professionals. Not constantly at odds, but not manchild besties. Friendly. No pretentious waxing philosophy about the characters and their methods, just adventures and mysteries in a strange world.
Make him racist. Like, REALLY racist.
No
Yes
Why does Superman trigger autists/shitposters on this board?
>Make Superman Cool
Da
We need a genocide of autists
It's still funny
Don't have to! I think Superman is pretty damn cool. I'm also a huge dork but I'm certain that's unrelated 🙂
Embrace the fact that he's lame and make it wrap back around to ultra-cool through being so unashamedly lame. Mr Truth, Justice And The American Way only benefits from sincerity
Do what's right isn't always doing what's cool.
>Smallville
>Birthright
>Man of Steel
>Earth One
>American Alien
>Year One
These all tried to make Superman cool with varying degrees of success.
what's the ranking there?
yea i was just about to post in this thread to just treat him like MoS did but the boomer troons didnt like that because it was
>too """""""dark""""""""
so we're stuck with a gay moron superman forever
MOS is fricking ass. Superman had the same mandated bullshit problems where he was more propaganda with zero personality than a real character. It’s the same in Returns too, so part it wasn’t a Zack problem, it’s a studio problem that refuses to let the character do much.
This fanedit fixes it.
https://ifdb.fanedit.org/man-of-steel-a-symbol-of-hope/
> MOS-ASOH sticks closer to the positive character of Superman we know from the comics and from the older movies. Hans Zimmer created a fantastic "hero theme" for Henry Cavill's Superman (sometimes called 'What are you going to do when you are not saving the world?') but sadly it was not really used in the original cut of MOS. Here it is deployed appropriately for Superman's heroic or emotional moments, in the same way that John William's theme was used for Christopher Reeve. This is the most obvious change in MOS-ASOH, requiring a lot of soundFX replacement work.
>Excessive levels of chaos and destruction during the boringly overlong action sequences are trimmed (where possible), especially if it was Superman causing it. Superman/Clark committing acts of violent retribution, or being indifferent to the plight of those around him are excised (where possible). Clark does not now make a deliberate choice to let Pa Kent die, he just hesitates when maybe he should have acted. Some of the swearing is removed to make this film more family friendly. A complete re-grade has been done shot-by-shot to remove the green/brown tint, increase saturation/contrast and to make Superman's suit more colourful. Some scenes are re-ordered to improve pacing, or refocus dramatic moments. Some onscreen titles are added.
I’d throw out the alien shit and have him come from the far future to make him a true Man of Tomorrow. Basically, like what Red Son did complete with him unknowingly being a descendant of Lex Luthor.
Apparently making him an anime twink is a pretty good idea.
Give him audio/visual indicators of his power to emphasize his strength. For example, he could have a catchy heavy metal/butt-rock theme and an aura of glowing light that intensifies as he exerts himself.
Make Superman mythic, like Hercules. Give him Quests and Adventures. Have him pursue trouble, not react to it. Focus on the phrase, "This looks like a job for Superman." For Clark Kent, return to Reeves. Clark acts goofy because he doesn't care what people think of him, and he's willing to regularly use his powers to get information and mess with people. Also, make Lois Lane a damsel in distress again. Her story function is to get herself into trouble, discover exposition, and be saved. Girl boss is fine, so long as she gets in way over her head.
Nailed it. This with anachronistic design for the world and characters. Keep it timeless
Also, make him a fun prankster and like incest (like how he used to be)
Superdick shorts
Clark get Ipad
Have him wear sunglasses and a leather jacket, and call everyone "dude", "man" or "bro".
That's just Superboy
super himboyscouts go brrrr
that's all you need to like about Superman
Drop the journalist alter-ego and have him stay living and working on the farm when he's Clark. Subtly imply that he smokes wheat.
Honestly, keeping him on the farm would help a lot in the perception of him. Dudes would think he’s manly and cool while chicks would go gaga over him.
superman is already cool
>Make Superman Cool
Already been done. And his superson went on to rule the galaxy, rather than play hide-the-sausage with pink haired boys.
Tarnish the golden boy, fall of the hero.
Make him actually have to push his very limits over what is and isn't right, saving the lives of millions by taking the trash out.
Long story short, just a very small dose of The Punisher while always having his morals upright despite the shortcomings.
No one likes him because you can't do anything with him
can't write a fight scene with him because he's too powerful
can't nerf him because people will be pissed that he isn't super anymore
>can't nerf him because people will be pissed that he isn't super anymore
Doesn't happen, people always clap for this
superman always being out of commission or thrown out the battle is an old and tired trope
You have to in case of evil
Lex lives for that
No he’s right. Too many casuals I’ve known who will get all confused every time Superman is presented as struggling with something.
What makes sense for non comic readers, but ubernerds understand powerlevels
What the frick are you saying?
Why do we have the same stupid conversation EVERY. THREAD? You casuals know dick about Superman, and won't shut up about it
The second one is not a casual opinion. General audiences and fans alike rarely complain if Superman is nerfed. They don't like him being a killer or being mopey is all
make him Golden Age/Kingdom Come era Superman again. Make him a nuisance to the Bloombergs of the world.
Frank was unironically right. The modern Superman of the 70s onwards is too much of a corporate stooge for his own good
LOL NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE BECAUSE WB/DC are adamant ABOUT keeping Superman as a blue paragon.
>B-but comics
NO ONE gives a FRICK about those
DC cares about branding than what ever the frick Superman use to be in the beginning. WB/DC are the same clowns that mandated Superman 64 to have the image of a good sterile mayor and how he couldn’t do too shit like fricking swim in an action BASED GAME. Who the frick wants to work with a heavily controlled mandated property like that?
keep the suit black. Invent new terrifying aliens that cause mass casualties. Now you have the edge of Batman on a planetary scale
>but that exists alre-
Apparently not to the degree to get people interested like OP wants
>Make him an butthole with a sarcastic personality
>Leader character development
>Sense of humor
>Goku type training
>Give him a Vegeta.
Problem solved.
Superman already has Batman to be Vegeta.
Their relationship is boring as frick now. it’s the same shit over and over again. Batman has no emotions like a bot, and Superman is a paragon with a god complex. Don’t you people want to see anything else?
A moron wrote this btw.
An anon suggested way back to make Black Adam his Vegeta.
Start by making Lex just as smart and skilled as Batman. Lex should in all his arrogance should be a chad of chads. Superman is the Gill to his Urien.
>Start by making Lex just as smart and skilled as Batman
He already is.
I would just make him prank the frick out of people (like he used to do anyway, like wtf is he doing all day for fun? Dude needs a hobby) and I would bring back his incest fetish
Having him always wait around until there's an alien invasion to do anything is a part of the problem
>B-but Injustice.
LOL they had the same overpowered paragon Superman come in and wipe anything to remind casuals of the same branding DC likes to push so much.
I liked seeing him righteously angry.
And to think immediately after that CHAD grayson fricked losi
That’s Jason. Dick was with the Titans at the time.
Notice how he didn’t mention HIM
>use this image to make an outrage thread
>nobody responds to your bait, just calls you a homosexual
>decide itll work a second time if you post it in another thread
is it working, anon?
Two words.
>HUGE
>wiener
New editorial mandate demands all artist draw superman with a bulge that suggests something like a coiled kielbasa .
Make him the new52 overpowered butthole like in War.
>Finally get a new Superman attitude wise
>DC immediately scraps it and turns him into a boycott the next animated movie
DumbASSESS
LopiBats is always right
LopiBats always wins
LopiBats is a fricking b***h ass homosexual and built for doomsday wiener
lol who wrote this shit? A Superc**t gay or a Batpoop gay?
>How would (you) fix that and make him as cool as Batman?
Have him teach anthology to short span dimwits so that when they see the explanation they would understand where the infamous notion of said subject came from
Superman should help those in need rather then preach about le morals and science, he should be more about communication
How come Allmight, Metroman and Mr. Incredible can be cool but Superman can't?
Other than dead pixar, who the frick are the rest of these people?
The only way Supes can beat Batman at this point is to go further than Batman ever did. To do the one thing Bruce could never do. He needs to rape Lex Luthor.
I'd go the Quantum Leap route where he gets lost in the multiverse and each episode is him landing in some parallel universe where he has to fix some problem before moving on to the next dimension in his quest to find his way home. It's a premise that would allow DC to explore its more fantastical lore without having to worry too much about continuity. You can even have recurring villains like Mxyzptlk, Bleediac, Darkseid, Monitors, and other entities not bound to a single universe.
You can even do crossovers with non-DC properties like Space Ghost or the Looney Tunes.
>Superman is extremely lame and his only fans are Superdaddygays
Gods you're pathetic. Just fricking sad and you get lamer every time you post this homosexualy-ass thread.
Clone clint walker and have him play superman.
Superdaddy can remain, but there's a way to have a cooler Superman around.
>bring back SuperBro
>give him an alias with a cooler civilian name
>have his personality be more "playful" but "dangerous", like original Golden Age Supes
>give him a suit akin to Justice Lords/Superman Beyond
>have him own multiple shell corporations while he stays behind as a "mastermind", mostly in the FoS, but also in his multiple high end apartments all over
>have him only come out for action for truly big enemies, planetary level and above, to justify all his powers
>give him a proper goal, something like preparing Earth to join the wider galaxy and slowly helping with tech and whatever
>rework Maxima and have her be his primary love interest
>have fun one-off zany adventures like from the Silver Age
There.
Make Superman evil. There's a reason Injustice and the Boys outsold any given Superman run.
We already had that. He's called Captain Marvel.
Superman is perfect the way he is you misterable stupid bastard.
I like how he doesn't wear gloves. All the classic superhero outfit has the character wearing gloves,Supes does not
I've noticed that most evil supermen wear gloves as well. a being like that doesn't need to wear gloves. they can offer the luxury of reaching out to hold another persons hand in a time of need. Its a subtle way of indicating this beings disdain or at the very least aversion towards life.
(this is just my bullshit theory)
How to fix Superman
1) A continuity reboot, even if it is a self-contained continuity to one book like an ongoing Elseworlds title. Having to have every character ability and interaction memorized for over 80 years is insane.
2) Start him out coming to Metropolis aged 19 or 20 in the late 1930s and be dedicated to keeping things in-period.
3) Nerf him back to his original power levels. No flight. No heat vision or freeze breath. He's just super strong and super durable. He jumps around like The Hulk instead of flying.
4) Have Superman be a bright beacon of optimism and Clark a cynical pessimist as he is a reporter during the events that led up to WWII.
5) Superman can't fly around the world in a few hours. At the most his jumping and running could have him travel at 70mph for a bit. You could even do a Bugs Bunny gag where he has to pull out a map and a compass and claim he must have took a wrong turn at Albuquerque. He'd have to travel the country under his Clark Kent persona by bus, boat and plane.
In short, make him more of a pulp hero than a modern superhero
>How would (you) fix that and make him as cool as Batman?
>Go all in with his powers, superman is infinitely fast strong and has X-rays and laser vision strong enough to melt planets, and freezing breath that reaches absolute 0.
>Make draw him really huge and muscular
>Write him so his main motivation is his appreciation for human life, and make this one of the core narrative values of the story.
>Clark lives as a normal dude, he struggles to get to work in time despite being faster than light, he gets anxious about what Louis thinks about him despite being the strongest man in the world, and he waits for his food to cool down despite being able to bathe inside a sun.
>Why is this? Because "human life" is more than just saving people, Clark embraces the struggle of the human condition and finds inspiring how these people without superpowers are able to keep going no matter the hardships they face. He wants to live as a human with all his ups and downs
>Instead of focusing his stories on universal threads and ayyylmaos that want to eat planets or something show us why Superman defends it, show us the things he tries to protect and what would happen if he fails.
>Also have battles be more than just "punch hard" you can have intense battles even when the villains are on a disadvantage.
>Show me the internal monologue of the villains, have them put superman on complicated situations that require more than just strength and speed, battles should be a struggle for superman to Dave the day causing the least amount of damage possible and a struggle for the villains to keep their plans working so they can pull off one on superman (heck most villains shouldn't even have in mind winning against him, just escaping with something they stole, kidnapping someone, or just getting away with what they wanted is enough)
>Have more moments of Clark being a normal person so his heroic battles have more weight
Metro-man.