She should be getting twice that amount!
Is there a list of the residuals amounts celebrities have claimed they make?
McCauley Caulkin said he is getting checks for $0.01.
 CRIME Shirt $21.68 |
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Mandy Moore is only getting $0.81 in residuals.
Mandy Moore needs to show off her giant feet more
How much did she get paid upfront?
250k per episode
A poultry $5 million per season.
>Early life
>Mandy Moore is only getting $0.81 in residuals
good
And she only made 26 million up front. How do actors even survive?
Jesus, I read it as she was receiving “penises” and that McCauley Culkin is “sucking dicks” for .01
I need to get out of here
It sounds like you need to get out of this board and into my car.
>the billy ocean trap
It's truth too.
Should people in construction get money for the rest of their life because they built the building?
Should doctors get money every year from patients because they gave them medical care, potentially even saved their life?
Should teachers get extra money annually because they taught kids?
Should wagies get money every month because they cagie wagied?
Why should entertainers, who the Romans knew to be no different from prostitutes, be paid forever again?
False correlation.
Better example would be should an artist get paid every time a painting he sold is put in an art show or placed in the background or a movie.
No.
At least the first one is not a false correlation.
>build building for someone
>he continues to rent it out to tenants for years
Frick no. Once the painting is sold, the new owner should be able to do whatever they want with it, including showing in tv and movies.
I don’t like this example though. According to the law, they’d have to contact the original artist and get permission. If the artist is dead, they have to get their estate’s permission. Until it’s in the public domain, they have to do that.
No wonder tv/movies are so selective about what art is shown…
No.
That is a false correlation too.
Mandy didn't create the show "This Is Us".
She was contracted to do acting work for the show.
>she didn’t create it she just made it
Compelling argument. Did you graduate from Harvard Law?
>made it
Along with hundreds of others of people.
Do the lighting staff get residuals?
The lighting staff isn’t on strike they seem relatively content with their pay. Maybe it has something to do with the supply and demand of bankable celebrity actresses and a dude who can hold a light. Idk
I asked a question that had nothing to do with the strike. Do the lighting staff get residuals?
If you think the strike “has nothing to do with” monetary compensation then I have no clue how to even proceed with this conversation. Heres a funny picture to look at
Seems like ITT says she was compensated $26 million.
I asked if lighting staff, a core part of making a tv show, got residuals. You refuse to answer the question so the answer is clearly "no".
Why does she deserve residuals just because she's an easily replaced actor?
I don't give a shit about privileged homosexuals crying they can't afford another beach house.
>easily replaced
Then this strike must be over. Guess we can all move on
The studios aren't budging. Hope they hire scabs.
Hope they will? But I thought they were easily replaced? I thought the strike was over? It seems you’ve been a bit disingenuous
Sadly easily replaced doesn't mean will be replaced immediately, nepotism's a b***h and Hollywood is the most nepotistic place in the world.
Good job sticking up for multi millionaires over working class people by the way.
>working class billion dollar corporations
Weak fricking bait man. Heres a pity (You). Add it to your collection
>working class billion dollar corporations
I didn't realize lighting staff were billionaires.
Again, and I know it might take three or four tried to get something to sink into that decaying pump house on top of your shoulders, the lighting staff is not in strike. There are two sides to this negotiation. This isn’t some industry wide battle royale for pay where you can cheer for PAs and gaffers bro. Give me a (You) when you need reminded again
>p-p-please clap for the actors
lol no, get fricked
By all means keep cheering on the unsung lighting heroes if thats your bag. Im just saying that it’s irrelevant to this conversation. But glad you have a hibby bro. Whatever keeps the gun out of your mouth another day
this seething comment brought to you by, some leftoid trannoid simping for actors
Youre right. I should side with billion dollar corporations instead. Those are the true heroes
>please choose a sidearino!
hey I know you, you're the fricking moronic troon-a-loon who keeps trying to convince people to side with the actors in every thread about the strike
is this what happening in every leftoid's head. That the world is some kind of superhero movie with the heroes and the baddies and you have to choose? That everyone is 2 dimensional? What a horrifying world you all living in.
>im defending them but im not on their side! Im nuanced and there are moral grey areas!
>Youre defending them you must be on their side! Theres no room for nuance or moral grey areas!
Cool
>the lighting staff is not in strike
Don't care, they deserve residuals more than the actors do.
Clearly they as a collective feel differently
Why are you simping for millionaires over working class people again?
Come on. You morons are getting as repetitive as the studios youre chimping out for
There you go calling lighting staff billionaires again.
Here you go. Let me know when you’re ready to be told a 4th time. I dont mind
>if I keep repeating it it'll change the fact that no one's talking about the strike
>nobody is taking about the strike
Bro what do you think this entire thread is about? Theres a major strike going on in Hollywood and lots of famous actors have come out with anecdotes like this in support. This isn’t like a one off thing and its just Mandy Moore. The entire union is on strike
OH NOOO NOT THE ACTORS
WON'T SOMEONE PLEAASE THINK OF THE ACTORS!!?!!?
Wtf? Bro you were fricking lost I was just explaining what the frick is going on. Why do I even come here anymore. The schizophrenic population on this website has exploded here since covid. All memes aside bro seek help
nah
You don't come here because you get called out for simping for multi millionaires?
Stop simping for privileged multi millionaires then.
>Bro what do you think this entire thread is about?
A woman who got $26 million up front complaining about only getting $0.81 residual.
>A fairly successful actor explains how if even she isn’t getting fair compensation for her work anymore then how fricked are the 90% of actors who make so little they can’t even qualify for a healthcare plan can make a living anymore
>Cinemaphile is so brain broken they fail to understand the basic point and instead just just go “You fricking rich b***h!”
Put actors in concentration camps
>if even she isn’t getting fair compensation for her work
I'd say $26 million dollars is a pretty fair compensation for a no name actor.
Sigh. You people are so fricking stupid, jfc
>t. "NOOOO $26,000,000 ISN'T ENOUGH, I NEED RESIDUALS!!!!!!
Doubling down on idiocy just humiliates you more.
The truth is simple, you simp for millionaires.
10% of the population is millionaires
My uncle is a millionaire.
People having wealth in society and investing it to create economic growth is a good thing
That's not true at all.
And I know Cenk is a millionaire.
>That's not true at all.
Yes it literally fricking is.
Look it up you religious cultist leftoid.
No I want a free market dictatorship
I get it. You're one of those "EAT THE RICH but not the heckin millionaires" type
No, you do by shitting on people trying to be fairly compensated. Your contrarian fricktard brain disease is blinding you to the truth even when the facts are explained to you.
>people trying to be fairly compensated
Those "people" being people who have been paid $26,000,000 up front for their work.
Almost 90% of SAG members do not make that kind of money. You hyper focus on the few actors who make bank because you are a dishonest actor who does not want to admit that most actors make very little money and are being screwed over when they get like five cent in residuals from hit shows. You lick the boot of corporate America like a pathetic simp
You people worship the state and central banks and then blame businesses when prices go up and workers can't afford to live
You're literally subhuman garbage
You've already admitted you believe she wasn't fairly compensated, why are you still posting like you're sticking up for the little guy?
Yea she was definitely thinking about other actors, actors as we know are incredibly selfless beings who put everyone else before themse- KEK
She’s explaining the reason for the strike and how actors are getting screwed by corporations that make billions in profits but won’t pay residuals even when it’s a hit show. Take your head out of your ass.
HAHAHAHAH, if she had gotten enough residuals she would be silent as a c**t
You mean if actors were compensated fairly for their labour they wouldn’t have to be on strike today demanding fair compensation in the form of things like residuals? Oh wow you must be a regular rocket scientist to figure that one!
hahaha, yeah son, go get those damn
So you believe she (the $26 million woman) wasn't fairly compensated.
Because the employers that pay the actors are screwing over everyone. God you’re stupid.
didn't you say the lighting guys were happy with their current situation? so they aren't screwing EVERYONE over
>Because the employers that pay the actors are screwing over everyone.
By paying actors the market rate according to supply and demand? Lol
Wait. Are you really going to pretend to be free market in one post then be pissed when workers demand better pay before working? Do you know what free market means?
>workers
LEL
>i have no answer so heres a LEL
Cool
The workers already get their fair share.
They're just doing this because they erroneously believe they're entitled to more.
>I decide what other people are allowed to call fair wages
>im unable to grasp the irony of calling other people entitled
Super cool
>>I decide what other people are allowed to call fair wages
No, moron, the market does
Do you actually think employers dictate wage rates?
Are you proud of being an economically illiterate pseudo intellectual?
If you support free market then you support the strike. You cant larp as a libertarian then get sanctimonious defending billionaires when they lose labor due to not offering incentive
>if you support free markets then you must agree with drug addiction and self mutilation
So you have no idea what libertarians believe? Got it
>billionaires
Billionaires are just a scapegoat so you people can defend politicians, the people actually screwing us
Lmfaooo. Black person are you really going to tell me libertarian’s don’t believe in free market? Jesus. Have fun collecting (You)s bud. What a literal moron lmao
I don't support the free market, I support the (legal) execution of every actor and for the position from henceforth be reduced back to that of a prostitute.
They are entitled to ask for more money. The studios are entitled to refuse. I'm entitled to not show any support for the WGA in the same way they showed no support for the unions that Biden and Trudeau busted up.
No workers no work being done no precious profit you ferengi frick.
>he thinks Hollywood is going to run out of "workers"
give it a few months, these nepo babies are already begging for donations after just 2 weeks
Then don't frick work then.
Others will gladly replace you.
>star trek politics is my ideology
LOL
Lol. The studios are making money off of streaming. They are clearly moving away from the theater release system, which is why they don't care to make "stars" any more and they don't seem to be too concerned about this current strike. I get the feeling that they can hold out longer than the writers can. Eventually those wealthy neoliberal windbags like Leonardo Di Caprio and Seth Rogen are going to have to cough up some money to keep the out of work writers and actors with food in their kitchens.
>neoliberal
Three is that made up leftist buzzword again
>made up leftist buzzword
What would you call the current elitist political system in America right now? Do you have a better descriptor? Surely you're not going to pretend like it's conservative, are you?
>What would you call the current elitist political system in America right now?
Statism? Keynesianism? Illiberalism?
Central banking?
Man you truly didn't understand my post whatsoever.
Go back and read it.
Just because Libertarians don't want to use force against people engaging in certain activities, doesn't mean they AGREE with it.
Absolute fricking moron
Liberalism. The "neo" is superfluous. Always has been.
is this loss?
it's always loss
No, someone said if she got more in residuals she wouldn't be striking and you responded with
>if actors were compensated fairly for their labour they wouldn’t have to be on strike
This means you believe SHE wasn't compensated fairly. You believe SHE deserves more than $26,000,000 because $26,000,000, enough to live off for life, isn't fair compensation for reading a few lines while pretending to be someone else.
You are a simp for multi millionaires and should have a nice day.
Mandy Moore isn’t the only actress, surprisingly
But the post was about how she would act if she specifically was paid more, and lower paid actors were left out to dry. It was explicitly about Mandy Moore.
Why are you deflecting?
No, you are trying to make it all about Mandy Moore like dishonest bootlicker to pivot away from the fact that when even people getting paid well are not paid the residuals they deserve that means everyone else who is an actor is getting fricked over even worse because to them residuals are a vital source of income that it will literally dictate if they can even qualify for health insurance that year. But you refuse to acknowledge anything about this just so you can walk in a circle whining about Mandy Moore and accuse everyone of somehow just defending millionaires
The post was already about Mandy Moore. It was quite explicit. So was your response.
She isn’t being compensated fairly when she gets less than a dollar in residuals from one of the biggest shows of the year.
Yes she is because she got a frickton of money up front.
She shouldn't be entitled to residuals simply because she worked on the project.
>I cut your lawn, therefore I am entitled to part of it now
You guys realize this strike isn’t about whether actors should get residuals right? Residuals already exist and they have forever
The post was about how she would act if she got more residuals. The hypothesis was that she wouldn't give a shit about the strike, you said "that's because she would be fairly compensated" which means you believe she is currently being unfairly compensated.
Stop driving in circles you simp.
I didn’t say that. Dont drag me down to your 80 iq autist fight. I was just pointing out that both of you are fighting over shit that was never an issue to begin with
You clearly did, it's right there. We can all read it.
When you do a hit show and only get $0.81 residual checks, that is unfair compensation. It is bad when Mandy Moore isn’t paid fair residuals the same it is bad when a smaller actor doesn’t get paid fair amount of residuals. Stop being a moron. This is called fricking over workers.
>When you do a hit show and only get $0.81 residual checks, that is unfair compensation
It's only $0.81 when you ignore the $26,000,000 she was paid up front. I believe she needs to have $26,000,000 confiscated from her.
Your definition of fairness is completely arbitrary.
Why should they get a cut of the profits if they were hired for a job by people who put up the capital to create the project in the first place?
What is "capital"
Saved resources
>Residuals are how most workers in the business make a living.
No it isn't. They mostly get paid for each movie they do
>You’re just outright simping for studios who do not pay workers what they are rightfully owed
But they aren't entitled to that
Because you are required to pay residuals. Residuals are how most workers in the business make a living. You’re just outright simping for studios who do not pay workers what they are rightfully owed
>Residuals are how most workers in the business make a living.
That's just not true. It's how big names make more money, no one else gets anything.
I doubt they're even required to pay residuals. That sounds like something you just made up.
Oh so now you’re just resorting to lying? Get bent, butthole.
>t. man who's been lying out his ass the whole thread
>N-no U
Okay we’re done.
Yes, that is in fact what you're doing.
I accept your concession.
>NOOOOO MAKING $260k PER EPISODE ISN'T ENOUGH!!!!
and then you whine about billionaires, what a strange leftoid you are
Disingenuous fricks like you deflecting all the time and refusing to admit they love big corporations is hilarious
But what will I do if I dont get my Disney reboot where Cinderella is played by a trans Black person? We NEED disney!
>t. Government bootlicker
Corporate bosses can all throw themselves off a cliff for all I care. Still not supporting Hollywood or anyone in it.
>I HATE CEOS!!!
>But I will also endlessly defend them for not paying their employees fair wages because that is how much I hate the CEOs and how they profit from exploiting their workers
How is it possible to be this brain damaged?
why didn't she confirm the residual payment with her agent then?
>and how actors are getting screwed by corporations that make billions in profits
Are you imagining the studio as a single person who receives a billion dollars on a movie that makes a billion dollars in profit? Because that would be incredibly reddit tier of you. Maybe Mandy Moore should take a pay cut if she wants her fellow actors on the project to make more money. Just a thought.
Yes. Thats how money works. The movie studio has to pay out exactly x number of dollars to actors so if mandy takes a cut then it can go to someone else. This is how money works. I am an adult. I understand finances
well the studios certainly aren't the ones begging the actual working class for donations now
this. I think the only ones who should get residuals are only original creators and those who fund the production. Everyone else already got what they agreed for upfront and with it they would also be free of responsibility if the products dont sell.
No
Why would he need to get paid?
His work is done
A REAL correlation, is if you sold a car, and the new owner gets into an accident, should YOU take care of any kind of cost, as you previously owned the car? The answer is clearly no.
Once the goods is somebody else's property, should be somebody else's property fully.
What a shit example. In your example it would be the artist being forced to pay the model a cut for everything they ever did with that art.
>Should people in construction get money for the rest of their life because they built the building?
Perhaps, yes. After all, the person who owns the building already gets money from people who use the building.
People who own the building do get money from the people the rent it out to. I agree with your point but you picked the fricking worst analogy possible you fricking donut
People building houses (or buildings, or bridges, or anything) rarely own them afterward. They're contracted to build the thing, paid, then left to find more work elsewhere.
But mandy moore owns her likeness. Shes not some fricking beaner roofer in this analogy shes the landlord. She owns it, is actively being paid residuals for it. That part was never up for debate. You seemed to have somehow miraculously missed the entire point of this and are confidently arguing with people
She owns her likeness in instances where she hasn't sold it.
How is her likeness any different than the hands of the construction worker? She doesn't lose her likeness when she does her work as an actress.
this line of reasoning is directly admitting that actors aren't talented at all, its all about looks
The people who built the building don't get extra money. The people who own it do. The people who build are not owners, they're usually contracted.
but if they do the work should they get a small cut from rents? since the building would not exist without them, and it would incentivize making a good building and building in general if it resulted in residuals for the people who worked on it.
>extra money
sorry friend i am caucasian, i swear it, but i am also inebriated. so i typed in haste, forsooth, and forgot my words. i will endeavor to do better.
Dem homies zesty
Here is the reason why people who built buildings don't want to be related to be building post construction. It is so they are not liable for post construction faults. See the Florida condo collapse as an example.
Oh wow. Another mouth breather. See
>frick frickedy fricking frick
was this post written by netflix screenwriters?
>shocked to see someone use two swear words on Cinemaphile
Ok?
You're a dumb fricking moron, it's actually a good analogy
The studios own the movies, the actors/writers do not
The landlords own the buildings, the construction workers do not
The construction workers do not get residuals, why should writers/actors
If mandy moore has no ownership or agency over her likeness then why is she being paid? Do you think its a tip? Just a thanks mandy we appreciate you. Lmaooo. Wow
>Tipping your movie stars
Do Americans really?
Because she asked for residuals, not ownership. If she had ownership she could, on a whim, demand the studios to stop broadcasting the show.
Wow. I dont know if its funny or sad that youre so close to a cogent thought and you still cant seem to get there. Reread your own words again
> If she had ownership she could, on a whim, demand the studios to stop broadcasting the show.
We agree that you think this. Correct? Ok. Now lets just take that same argument. And apply it the other way for a second. I know, I know. This is difficult. Im sure cartoon steam is coming out of your ears at this point. But by god man, were so close! Ok. Same logic. Here we go
> If [studios] had ownership [they] could, on a whim, demand the [actress] to stop [receiving residuals].
They couldn't. Read up on contract law.
You realize youre not even arguing with me right? That’s literally copy and paste your words. Holy shit dude is winning an internet argument with a stranger on a Belgian fletching forum so important to you that youd rather shamelessly contradict yourself rather than just moving on with your life? Thats so pathetic. Im not even being the slightest bit ironic when I say I genuinely feel sorry for you. Youre life must be hell if this is where youre at in life
>The studios own the movies, the actors/writers do not
>The landlords own the buildings, the construction workers do not
Yes! The people who make the thing are a nuisance! Power to the people who own the thing!
The stock market is arguably the worst thing to ever happen to capitalism. Practically all decisions revolve around stock values. It's directly responsible for shit like planned obsolescence (which should be outlawed).
Charlie Sheen was arrested?
Actually, more importantly, Charlie Sheen wore a suit?
Oh it's a role. Still surprised he wore a suit though.
Rent seeking is an economic drain brought on by leeches. It should be illegal in all industries/markets, including housing and real estate more broadly.
He's talking about the construction workers, the owners of the building would be analogous to the studios.
If they knew how to negotiate and leverage their labor I bet they would.
>Should people in construction get money for the rest of their life because they built the building?
Unironically a good idea. Lol at this anon thinking his boomer capitalism is sacrosanct.
>I want to live in a shithole where you don't get to own what you create
Bootlicking leftist subhuman
>what you create
But they created it.
so they bought all the materials and the space necessary to construct it?
Did the actor?
no and thus the actor shouldn't get squat, what the frick is your argument?
Maybe you should read before you jump in.
In an argument about why actors get residuals, construction workers were brought up as a worker that creates a product and is only paid a wage. Construction workers are far more deserving of residuals than actors are.
neither of them deserve residuals, you annoying commie
Did they provide the capital and ideas?
No? then no, they didn't create it.
It makes no sense. Imagine paying someone to do a job and they not only get paid but now have part ownership of your brand.
Yeah. I can’t imagine having celebrities being paid to represent my brand so they attract future business. Thats a crazy idea nobody would ever
best Aerith VA.
>i signed a bad deal frick this!
strike against your agent, moron
Thats… they’re literally striking. Jesus frick what is the collective IQ on this board?
are you implying that the actor's union is currently striking against their talent agencies and representatives? please reply, mr. very large and smart IQ.
Wtf? Do you think the agents are the one’s paying them?
Im going to be completely honest here. I’ve been coming to Cinemaphile off an on for over a decade. I genuinely can’t recall the past time I was in a thread with this many piss poor takes, brain dead analogies, and just plain moronic people. Seriously what the frick is wrong with you people
>piss poor takes, brain dead analogies
That's why I just make Barbie threads and hang out with my friends there
Boohoo starve to death homo
Case and point
Why be smug if you don't even understand his point?
>aww no, my passive income!
>I’m gonna starve!
Mandy’s net worth is 14 million. Who fricking cares if she gets checks or not.
How much money do these people realistically think they're entitled to for someone watching their thing one time on streaming? They realize people don't pay to watch their thing, but are paying a monthly fee of like $10 for everything in the streaming catalog, right?
Ruffio is getting mad residuals
heres his haul from 2019
wonder if its gone down since his last vid from 7 years ago
shit
how about these gays get real jobs?
>Mandy Moore
frick that roastie
Don't you sign a contract when you join a movie? It lists your compensation including future residuals, which is probably a percentage?
Can't these people just abide by the terms of the contracts they signed? Why do they need to hold an industry hostage to negotiate?
>just accept whatever contract is offered without negotiating and never ask for a raise in your life
Hows that 7.25/hr treating you bud
ahh yes, let me go back to my employer from years ago and ask for a raise even though I don't work there anymore and when I did, we mutually agreed on how much I should be paid. you are a fricking moron please have a nice day.
Or you could do that with your current employer? Exactly like this strike is? Idk just spitballing
Mandy Moore is currently making new episodes of this is us? when I want a real raise, I apply for new jobs. If I don't get any offers from other companies, I must not be worth that much. These theater gays should try getting a new job and see if they are worth what they think they are.
>dont ask your employer for a raise. Just apply for a brand new job
Pretty terrible career advice but I expect nothing less
>take a high demand specialist and put them in another field of work and see what theyre worth
I mean, obviously less lol. I dont think thats the mic drop moment you think it is tho. Jokic would probably have been a shitty java programmer. I guess the Nuggets are overpaying him lmaoo
i've been given raises every year by my current employer at the time. if you want something larger than a 5% raise, you have to apply for a new job. stop fricking talking moron. i've worked for my current employer. i started at 130K and immediately received a 4% raise due to inflation. Then I received a 2% raise at my 6 month review. at my 1 year review (6 months later), i got a 5% raise.
By applying to this job I received a 40% raise. You are so fricking stupid.
Yes. I am stupid because i asked my employer to pay me and they did. And you asked and were given scraps until you found something better. This is what makes me stupid. Its been a blast talking to you man. Just real illuminating shit. Good luck with that writers strike. Hope your billionaires get to keep their money
shut up nagger.
i talked my employer into giving me 10% extra after about 15 months of merited service, then i promoted at 2 years and gained another 15%.
but other then that the nickle and dime everyone, my actual raise before i got my superiors involved was 3%. i can't extort them anymore. promotion is key to making more money. they just won't pay the guys who run the store more than poverty wages. their shareholders won't let them.
another team would pay Jokic money... who is going to pay Mandy fricking Moore extra money for her subpar acting? you are a low IQ person aren't you. by low IQ i imply you are a mutt or dark skinned. don't procreate, you are a waste.
>>just accept whatever contract is offered without negotiating and never ask for a raise in your life
Negotiating your contract isn't usually something you do after accepting it
I think the point she is making is that if a some what successful actress like her is getting shit for residuals, how much lesser in residuals are majority of the SAG making (since A lister make up less than 1% of the SAG).
But somehow Cinemaphile sees this as her being greedy and sides with
>*checks notes*
The israeli executives
Who gives a frick? These people gladly and happily side with said israeli executives to push preachy ass propaganda slop down everyone's throats without any complaints when they feel like they're getting paid enough to do so. Frick off with this moronic sympathy whoring argument.
>Who gives a frick
I don't. I am just pointing out the moronic arguments people are making.
>But somehow Cinemaphile sees this as her being greedy and sides with
>*checks notes*
>The israeli executives
Yeah this absolutely isn't you trying to push one side over another or anything. Frick outta here.
It's not siding with the execs, it's siding against the actors.
It isn't. It is calling you a hypocrite for using the greedy argument against her. You would understand that if your IQ isn't the same as her residuals.
>It is calling you a hypocrite for using the greedy argument against her.
Who fricking cares about ANYONE on either side of this?
>These people gladly and happily side with said israeli executives to push preachy ass propaganda slop down everyone's throats without any complaints when they feel like they're getting paid enough to do so.
You care enough to make multiple post about it in this thread.
>you can't have any opinion if you're not taking a side
So which "side" are you on, thread poster? And why, exactly?
I am on the side of calling morons like you moronic for making shit arguments. And I am here for the content as well.
Have this (You) then, moronicly obvious troll with no arguments. Plenty more where that came from, it's been boom times for me lately.
>No argument
Better to have no argument than a moronic one. The amount of seethe I am generating because I said you have a dumb argument is amazing. Like I said, I am here for the content.
>The amount of seethe I am generating
>I said it so it's the reality
Your vegana is a wonder of modern science and makes you absolutely as much of a real woman as any bioc**t.
Seething. Lmao.
>broken down to just repeating how "seething" I am
It's so easy to win when you can just tell yourself you did, and believe it. Have another (You), since you're down to straight begging for them now.
Seeething
Whatever you say buddy. You really ought to spend some time getting better at this thing you think of as "trolling", maybe then you wouldn't have to pretend I was seething by repeating it to yourself over and over.
Seeeething
>broken into looping the same reply over and over
You're just not cut out for this industry, kid.
Seething
>he's still going
Buck status: irrevocably broken
Aren't you siding with that israeli executive now?
>YOU DON’T DESERVE TO GET PAID ANYTHING BECAUSE I TAKE PERSONAL OFFENCE TO A TV SHOW THAT SAYS SEXISM/RACISM/ETC IS BAD
Yeah we know you’re a selfish and easily triggered butthole who just out of malice doesn’t want anyone else to make a living
>YOU DON’T DESERVE TO GET PAID ANYTHING
I agree.
>side with israelites
>spew israeli propaganda
>spread vitriol for straight white males
>gets backstabbed by israelites
>"WHY AREN'T YOU HELPING US?"
>haha if I side with one group of israelites in opposition to some other israelites maybe ill trick the goyim yet again
kys i want them all bankrupt
sup, troon, you fool no one
of course I don't fool anybody, im not a israelite or a troony so my life isn't devote to trickery
gonna try pretending to be moronic because you got BTFO all thread long huh
It’s super weird when chuds first go “hehehehehehe racism and bigotry against anyone who isn’t a straight white man is actually super based and natural and good” and then turn and run to cry to mommy about how the evil israelites are attacking white people by making a tv show where a black man or woman is the hero instead and that’s so mean and literally wants to emasculate meeeeeeee.
I think its funnier when leftoid wokeoid writers get fricked by their israeli masters, all that diversity and you get fricked in the end
No, that’s just capitalism allowed to run rampant fricking over workers like always.
>hollywood nepo babies
>workers
haha
Yes anon, all 160,000 members of SAG are just nepobabies. You figured it out.
>all 160,000 members of SAG are just nepobabies
make that everyone in israelitewood
Yes.
Yes, they are all parasites and losers in a filthy industry too.
They should open a go fund me or something so we can give them money directly
what a poor israeli girl. This reminds me of holocaust so much.
Good, they make trash. Why do people think they should be paid well when they produce nothing of quality?
>millionaires complaining they're getting screwed by billionaires
Boo fricking hoo.
If someone builds a sidewalk do they get residuals?
That's so awful, here, let me sing Imagine to you
>Millionaires complaining about pennies on the dollar residuals
This is the canary in the coal mine for an economic crash
The union represents big and small
People just use these people for name recognition
There are a bunch of nameless schmucks in the crowd with far less
>Actors won't budget on residuals because that is how they will qualify for health insurance (the fricking state of healthcare in USA)
>Studios won't budget because they have to show streaming numbers which will topple their house of cards
Whatever happens, it is gonna be glorious.
I would pay her a bit more to stick my hard wiener into her juicy pussy and thrust until I ejaculate if you catch my drift
How much more?
$2.69 more
Give Mandy More
i can save her
US, THIS, THIS IS US! ALL OF THIS, YOU, US IS THIS! - the guy from Heroes in every episode of this schlock
>McCauley Caulkin said he is getting checks for $0.01.
and according to the supreme law of the US, the rights to Home Alone should've expired 19 years ago, so he should be getting $0.00
You selfish bastards! Mandy Moore is down to her last $2.6 million mansion -- if you don't count all the other houses she owns:
i'm not making a fricking cent for the work i made 5 years ago
>im a wagecuck living in poverty so i want everyone to be
At least you have the balls to admit it instead of hiding behind some false moral superiority fed to you by billion dollar corporations
She is credited for 106ep so yeh probably she is getting screwed. But depends on the contact. It's not like she had a lead role in the show for years on minimum wage.
It's Hollywood. They also using schemes to rip off people. Doesn't imply the actors are worth it. Just confirms what a hive of scum the industry is.
As long as she looked after the money she should be ok for life. If she didn't not our problem.
>It's Hollywood. They also using schemes to rip off people.
this is what I don't get. Why don't these writers/actors tell these execs to go frick themselves? Set up shop in another state that's cheap to live in. Make movies, release them on VOD. The really rich actors/writers can fund it. They can cut these execs out and make their own Hollywood where they won't get screwed.
Some do exactly this. But what Hollywood has an almost monopoly over isn't creative talent but ability to get your stuff out there. Distribution, access to cinemas, getting your physical media release out there. It's deeply controlled by the same old companies. Music industry is the same.
Self funding a film is still risky. Even cheap can be 50k. Most people don't have that to hand. In Hollywood you have financiers and they accept there are risk. Your risk might be your house, your kids future, 5 maxed out credit cards.
The other problem is ok so you walk out from working in LA. There are about 50 desperate people trying to get in. Very very few actors have the ability to walk out and studios are desperate to get them back. Almost everyone is replaceable. Except the same old execs and their family ties.
Because they're brainlets. Actors can neither write, direct, nor produce a movie.
>Country built by White Europeans
>System set up to funnel wealth and resources away from their working descendants and into the pockets of israeli bankers/executives and other parasites
>people care more about 'actors' and shitty writers getting paid for doing nothing than this outrageous crime
Hmm
mandy moore is a no talent b***h
Agreed. She has a VERY weak voice. And she’s a subpar actor.
What she did to Ryan Adams is fricked up.
yep they piled on him when he was down, but frick it he's still making music
>do work for someone else
>expect to get paid for it forever
am I supposed to be sympathetic?
the thing is all these companies are cutting back as it is. they will get a pyrrhic victory with better contracts but less jobs for everyone as streamers cut back. look at how much money WB and Disney have lost this year on flops. All these companies overbought because they thought streaming was going to be their future. It's all going to come crashing down and they'll have to cut back big time.
>doesn't even have $0.80
What in the anticapitalism frick is going on in this thread? Why are so many ((people)) here going to the mat for a billion dollar corporation who couldn’t care less if they lived or died?
>These people gladly and happily side with said israeli executives to push preachy ass propaganda slop down everyone's throats without any complaints when they feel like they're getting paid enough to do so.
Because nobody gives a frick about either side and wants both of them to suffer as much as possible.
Ahh yes. The best way to make a billion dollar corporation suffer… *checks notes* give them more money? Yo Black person we sure this is right? Cuz im reading it and it feels wrong…
Nobody makes the money as long as there's a strike, genius. I hope the strike never ends and it all fricking collapses under its own weight.
While Im sure that made sense in your head, I feel obligated to tell you that movie studios and streaming services are still fully up and running. Crazy, I know
thats not my problem
>movie studios
Making nothing new.
>streaming services
And every one is reliant on new content that isn't being made currently to draw new subscribers.
Eventually they're going to run out of content that was already finished and have nothing new to offer.
>eventually streaming services will tun out of content
You can literally stream giligans island. They have a 70+ year backlog of content to string them along. Do you think the human race will just stop watching movies and tvs if you dont get your nigher disney reboot? Youre as delusional as you are stupid
>And every one is reliant on new content that isn't being made currently to draw new subscribers.
You missed that part, or intentionally ignored it.
I ignored it because it was wrong. This hypothesis that everyone will just start reading books and rolling hoops with sticks if they cant get their eyes on a soulless reboot starring a Black person is laughable stupid. Sorry i wasnt more explicit with mocking your ideas. I know reading comprehension is a bit above your level. Ill be more direct from now on. I think youre a stupid homosexual
>This hypothesis that everyone will just start reading books and rolling hoops with sticks if they cant get their eyes on a soulless reboot starring a Black person is laughable stupid.
You certainly pulled that whole thing out of your ass, as I said nothing of the sort. Nobody is subscribing to a streaming service to watch old shit like fricking GIlligan's Island. Literally why the streaming services like Netflix make their own new content.
>nobody streams old shows
The office and friends fricking dominate every streaming metric. But sure. We need more woke black empowered women in white fairy tales or it all comes crashing down. Whatever you gotta tell yourself bud
who is giving them more money? and why should that money go to millionaire nepo babies instead?
Did you think that if the money didn’t go to the actors that the benevolent billionaires were going to donate that money to charity or some shit? Dude nobody is that stupid lmaooo
I'd rather the money burns up into ash than go to the actors or the studios, ya crying israelite
>*tips menorah*
get better material senor reddit
Seething
I haven't given Hollywood any money in nearly two decades, and I don't plan to in future, regardless of the outcome of any strike. Get a better strawman.
I think you should google what strawman means
You should google what "support" means.
So you googled it, realized you misused that fun little buzzword, and now you’re deflecting. Cool. Very cool shit going on in this thread. Real titans of intellect strutting their stuff
Didn't google or misuse a thing. You're accusing people of things they aren't doing ITT. Refusing to consume Hollywood output is not supporting anyone in Hollywood, rich or poor m
I never accused anyone of consuming anything. I think you’re getting youre convos crossed there chief. Which is incredibly ironic, considering you accused me of using strawmen
if your position on all things hollywood for the last i don't know 30 years isn't "a cosmic object should impact the los angeles metro area and kill everyone there" please get your brain examined by your local zero compensation Cinemaphile janitor
No one is. Stop lying. The general consensus is that it would be ideal if Hollywood ceased to exist.
Scroll up bud
Nope. It's on you to quote the poster supporting the existence of Hollywood.
>can't quote a single post doing what he claims
Mandy Moore...?
Wasn't she being touted as the "Anti-Britney", "Anti-Christina", "Anti-Paris Hilton" It-girl.
The first wholesome trad girl that Hollywood tried to pimp out?
Now she's worth less than a buck?
>meanwhile CG artists live on slave tier wages under impossible deadlines with no union and none of the actors/writers/studios give a shit or say one word
Reminder that Grace Randolph made thousands in residuals for her cameo in Zombieland 2.
ITT one twitter troony on the tail end of a terminal dunning-kruger episode
its the same leftoid who spams nazi crossdressers, now xe's moved on to simping for the actors
It's fricking hysterical that so many people seem to not get this whole "hating both sides and wanting them all to suffer because they're all insufferable c**ts" thing.
oh no the poor acterinos arent getting big extra cheque abloo ;_;
This entire thread can be summed up with a bunch of morons saying because other people in the world make less money than elite actors, billion dollar corporations should never have to pay more money. And then theres one homosexual who is just trolling them all while they seethe. Worth the read 8/10
>seethe
try le checks notes again, dummy
>I was only pretending to be troontarded
>elite actors
I'd never heard of this c**t until this thread, turns out she's still making tens of millions of dollars.
I've been sending Mandy Moore $0.81 checks every time I think of that one ancient photo of her holding her foot up to a camera that I jerked off to when I was 14, maybe she mistook those for her residuals?
>that one music video of hers that was directed by a porn director
Huh?
in hollywood 810k/year barely covers cost-of-living
Every time you reply to my posts or green text me, you owe me a dollar.
Why don't they just act like they're getting paid well? Wait, you're telling me that acting isn't actually a useful or relevant skill?
Hang on a minute....
Should a painter/descendants get a percentage of their painting when it sells at auction? Michaelangelo combined work is probably worth $1 billion
>getting money for doing nothing
There is no solution here.
This is thing is going to go very far because it starts to ask huge questions about copyright laws in the 21st century.
I can loan her a few bucks but it'll cost her.
>they really believe every actor and writer in every movie/show on a streaming service should get paid extra thousands of dollars every 3 months forever for that one single role
I hate how they're making me side with megacorporations. Entitled morons.
Where is union-buster Biden when you need him? Somebody wake him up and tell him there is a strike going on.
She made more from one episode than most actors make in their acting career.
Mandy, I love ya, but come on
I've got 0.81 of something for Mandy Moore, if you know what I mean.
We need a union of scab heros
If you think actors like Mandy Moore should get more than you are part of the problems. We the writers out here are the ones getting fricked and we deserve better. Spoiled actors can suck donkeys dicks.
This situation is like if OnlyFans prostitutes were striking for a better cut of profits.
>why are you supporting the greedy bosses of OF and not the workers?
I'm not supporting either of the. I don't believe their industry should exist. I believe it would be a good thing for society generally if the whole thing was eradicated
>but it does exist
Plenty of things exist that I don't approve of. Doesn't mean I hate support anyone involved
>....but you're supporting the rich bosses of OF!
How? I don't give them any money or consume their output.
>BOOTLICKER!!! AAAAGGGHHH
This is pretty much what is happening in these threads.
Thats some of it. There are also plenty of genuine morons in here spouting out horrible takes. Im just here for the keks
Dumb c**t should have read her contract.
She got millions already. Work is done so is the money
I think while we are at it audiences should be getting residuals in the form of refunds everytime I watch a shit movie in a platform I'm subscribed at. I'm not a corporate bootlicker.
>get asked in an interview what your residuals are
>answer
>break Cinemaphile for a week straight
is the protest still going on? what about the trees? the tree laws?