Marvel and Sony clashing over Spider-Man 4

Sony President Tom Rothman is reportedly desperate for a hit after Madame Web flopped and Kraven the Hunter tested poorly, and wants to rush the movie into production for a June 25, 2025 release, though he's willing to compromise to a December release like Spider-Man: Way Home. Kevin Feige doesn't want to release four MCU movies in one year and would rather release it in 2026 alongside Avengers: The Kang Dynasty. He's also too busy with Marvel's ongoing projects to take on another one, but Rothman isn't willing to wait for him.

Marvel wants a street-level adventure where Spider-Man and Daredevil team up against the Kingpin, Sony wants another Multiverse-themed film featuring Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and SUMC characters like Venom and Kraven.

Sony wants to bring Jon Watts back as the director even though he doesn't appear to be interested, Marvel would rather someone else take over the franchise and is courting Watts for a different gig.

Tom Holland is also signaling he'll depart the franchise after Spider-Man 4 and the next two Avengers films, so Amy Pascal has already approached Feige about setting Sony's planned live-action Miles Morales film in the MCU and having him take over as its Spider-Man after Holland leaves.

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    At this point, it might be more beneficial for Sony to create standalone Spider-Man movies that are ACTUALLY independent of the MCU and truly focus on the character of Spider-Man as a truly unique character from the ground-up using a different actor in a distinct world, crafting an entirely new and original Spider-Man narrative that incorporates the desired qualities from both Miles Morales and Peter Parker. They could initiate an "Elseworlds" trilogy, similar to what DC has done with Matt Reeves' Batman. Think about it: reworking Spider-Man's concept from the core facets only so they can focus on what works. He could be an Asian-American diet-Peter Parker who lives in Chicago doing his own stuff, but keeping absolutely everything essential to the original concept of Spider-Man intact. They do that, outdo Marvel, and let them keep Tom Holland for one more movie as they then get Miles Morales in the MCU for them (and make money from Marvel basically doing said film for them per their contract). Another option could be allowing Sony to exclusively retain Miles Morales, as they have demonstrated they can at least do SOME things half-interesting with him compared to Marvel/Disney.

    And if I'm wrong and this could NEVER work, seriously, tell me why. I believe it can if handled properly. It'd just give Sony more influence over the IP in the long-haul.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >if I'm wrong and this could NEVER work, seriously, tell me why. I believe it can if handled properly.
      They won't handle it properly. As evidenced by
      Spider-Man 3
      The Amazing Spider-Man
      The Amazing Spider-Man 2
      Morbius
      Madam Webb
      Kraven the Hunter
      All of their previously rumored and cancelled films like the Aunt May movie or Silver Sable/Black Cat.

      It absolutely would work if they made solo movies. It would even work if they made sequels to Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire's films independently with the original filmmakers back. But that's not what they'll do. They'll keep making low budget schlock.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the Aunt May movie
        How the frick were they expecting to make that work?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just make a typical rom com and interweave some Spiderman characters/winks and nods here and there.

          In the right hands it could work but I think we established a long time ago none of these hands are the right ones.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sony has proven to be completely incompetent, despite what morons and snoys say about "mcu le bad, sony le good" Raimi's Spider Man was 2002, that was over 20 years ago, it's not an excuse to let Sony handle the IP

      Do you really want to give the people who made Madame Web even more power? Frick off, moron. I'm not saying the MCU is good either, MCU turned to complete shit in phase 4, No Way Home included

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >if I'm wrong and this could NEVER work, seriously, tell me why. I believe it can if handled properly.
        They won't handle it properly. As evidenced by
        Spider-Man 3
        The Amazing Spider-Man
        The Amazing Spider-Man 2
        Morbius
        Madam Webb
        Kraven the Hunter
        All of their previously rumored and cancelled films like the Aunt May movie or Silver Sable/Black Cat.

        It absolutely would work if they made solo movies. It would even work if they made sequels to Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire's films independently with the original filmmakers back. But that's not what they'll do. They'll keep making low budget schlock.

        homecoming and far from home are garbage, too. the entire tom holland trilogy is disney channel original movie bullshit.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          They're better than Sony's trash, objectively

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            no, you're just stupid and gay

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              He is right and you are gay

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            all three tugboat movies brutally mog them

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >B-B-B-BUT MUH RAIMI
              That was 22 years ago, moron, modern day Sony is responsible for Venom, Madame Web and Morbius, Frick off

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      i don’t think sony is legally allowed to do anything live-action with spider-man for as long as their deal with disney is intact. it’s the reason that i can justify in my head for why they keep making these spin-off movies.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      lmao what a shitshow.
      The problem is that both camps are entirely moronic and have no idea what would be a good film. They only care about how to use the franchise to try and sell their brand to consumers.

      This.
      I think sony's best play is to license spider-man, Holland and Miles Morales non-exclusively for a nice fee (like $50m per film and 10% of box office performance) and then start again with an independent film. New actor. New story.
      The problem is that sony is so moronic that their reboot will be shit because they have no idea where to find a talented director and will inevitably hire some nepo hacks that the execs are friends with and then wonder why the films came out so bad.
      And the further problem is that marvel is in such a state that their films have a very decent chance of souring the brand. If they do good stuff (they won't) then audiences will take the mcu films as the "real" spiderman. If they do bad stuff, it just makes audiences dislike the character and lose interest.
      But there isn't really a better option when you're playing with such a terrible hand.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Asian-American diet-Peter Parker
      I want you to know this is where I stopped reading your post.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I’m not saying it would have to be good— merely appear like it could be. That way It would be different enough to get attention of normies, a change that would be entirely superficial. The main idea is just get the core concepts of the webhead and go back to square-one. His name might not even be Peter Parker. He’s just “the new Spider-Man”. And then, contrarians and Twitter dorks will act like it’s a back-to-basics approach because it’s not bogged down by the mismanaged history of the actual character when really, it’s just an excuse to do something “new” without “displeasing the fans” (do whatever we want and have a cop-out to get away with it).

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          get rekt

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I wanted there to be an asterisk besides homosexual so bad.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >items with a * are permitted while Spider-man is Black
            Wtf

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Does not have sex with anyone below the age of 16
            Will Sony have the balls to have a 40 year old spider-man have sex with a 16 year old?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              No but they will age down Peter's sloppy seconds and make them a troony for Miles to the cheers of billions!

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sony cannot make good live action Spider-Man movies. If they wanted to try, they would--nobody put a gun to their head and made them partner with Disney. The whole reason they were able to be convinced to prostitute him out to Disney in the first place was because of the failure of Garfield's movies. It doesn't matter how fresh and inspired whoever director's take is because Sony absolutely, 100% cannot deliver a quality film with it, and they know it. They've relegated themselves to creating weird, semi-MCU-canon spin-offs instead to just try to siphon off some MCU viewers into their ecosystem but every one of them has been ass.

      I am still shocked that they made the Spider-Verse films, but whatever lightning in a bottle they had there has clearly not transferred to the rest of the company.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        If I were Marvel i'dve just let them fail until they were forced to just sell the rights back.

        We never wouldve gotten that last Spiderman kino out of it though so I guess im glad for that.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Sony cannot make good movies.
        ftfy

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          99% of the time yeah

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Asian-American diet-Peter Parker
      I want you to know this is where I stopped reading your post.

      Kek, his answer to awful stories and arbitrary race swapping shit is an awful arbitrary race swap storyline.

      Serious question anon, are you moronic?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Make ANOTHER spiderman

      Holy frick, have a nice day

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Asian-American diet-Peter Parker
      I want you to know this is where I stopped reading your post.

      get rekt

      Eh, just adapt “Fake Red” and call it a day.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's crazy how much better Fake Red is compared to ItSV just when it comes to the mask of Spider-Man and what that specifically means

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is a horrible idea and you are a fricking homosexual. Maybe you should work for Sony

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ah yes! Let's follow DC and it's proven and tested multiverse! What a wise decision! The multi billion dollar DC universe!

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        DC characters should just be stand alone anyways. especially in movies. at east batman, he stops making much sense with superman and the rest around, thats why they make him the smartest man in the world to make up for it

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I thought Tom Holland's 2nd spidey film was pretty shitty and the 3rd one was just bloated and full of dumb ideas. MEMBER THE OTHER SPIDER MAN MOVIES? come on man I don't have time for this.

    it is funny that they finally circled back on a character people actually like in Spider-Man instead of Nip Nip Bahleebi from the Gwangi Alliance and will run this character into the ground too. Please die capeshit. plz

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hate all of the Tom Holland ones, they worse than even the Garfields for the following reasons.

      1. muttoid MJ
      2. mystery meat fatso supporting character
      3. peter's aww shucks cutesy character
      4. spiderman being relegated as starks lapdog and servant boy wonder

      And all of that crap is done on purpose to undermine peter so miles can be contrasted by being independent and not sucking up to stark and being allowed to by more snarky and arrogant like the original comic version of spiderman

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not to mention unmasked like 85% of the time. Always bothered me.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I hate how Dr. Strange was this guy who cared for the balance between multiverses, a observer, and in the no way home movie he just "Okay Peter i going to change a whole timeline for you" out of nowhere.
        They should just let the IP go to another company and make them do an cartoon of daily spiderman shenanigans on the street, meeting with some heroes here and there, a few scenes of the normal Peter Parker and that's it.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >spiderman 4
    >releasing in december with avatar 3
    Disney and Cameron wont allow it

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Amy Pascal has already approached Feige about setting Sony's planned live-action Miles Morales film in the MCU and having him take over as its Spider-Man after Holland leaves
    Do these morons realize that no one wants to watch a beloved White character die and get replaced by a black?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Do these morons realize that no one wants to watch a beloved White character die and get replaced by a black?
      they don’t give a shit. they’ll keep going and going and going and then going some more until the brand is completely run into the ground, and then after everything has failed, they’ll have something new to blame white people for. it’s completely sick and twisted what they’ve done.
      marvel used to be high testosterone shit for boys and men and they turned it into complete garbage for moms and funko pop collectors.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      She’s a fricking israelite of course she doesn’t.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Spiderman 2 PS5 already did it and it has sold 10 million

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It takes one piece of shit to be consumed before the sales go down. Look at the Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, two complete pieces of shit that killed the Star Wars franchise, but there is a lag effect, as the public is moronic and takes time to digest their feelings. Miles Morales has killed Spider-Man, one day you'll realize that, you just don't get it yet because you're dumb.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        And the first game sold 33 million while the Miles Morales game only sold 6.5 million. Everyone who bought SM2 didn't know Peter was quitting in it. Nobody wants to be Miles otherwise Miles' own game would have actually sold better.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't worry, it's not gonna surpass the original in sales. TLOU2, despite a huge opening, fell hard the same way. And both their profit margins were much, much smaller too, because of the sequels mammoth budget.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Spider-Man 2 was a trojan horse. It only sold as well as it did because its name implied it was another Spider-Man and game and not a 50/50 split with his less popular replacement. By the time people realized they'd been baited the sales were already made. Basically the video game equivalent of the Captain Marvel movie.

        Which is a nice way to con people for a quick buck but a bad way to sustain long-term interest in the franchise. It'll end up selling less than the first one and the next one will sell even less than that

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Personally I won't be buying any future Spider-Man games if they include any collaboration with Sweet Baby Inc. A less sensationalized, but equally important problem with the game is the pathologically positive affect of literally every character: Peter, Miles, Harry, MJ, they all speak in homosexual HR speak and are constantly reminding each other how much they love and support everyone. it's a reflection of this fricking satanic millennial/zoomer culture which cannot tolerate any conflict, except when it's time to excommunicate an apostate who did a wrongthink.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Personally I won't be paying for Spider-Man media containing Miles as Spider-Man

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        its the ps5's only game

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Spiderman 2 PS5 already did it and it has sold 10 million
        They forced sales of Black personman through bundles. Snoy israelitetubers and twitter gays lost their shit because it was so woke. kek.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      B-B-But Cinemaphile told me Holland-Man is already Miles Morales because he has a fat asian friend!

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Miles is popular because people see him as a Robin/Nightwing to Peter. The Spiderverse movies also helped give him a personality next to a bunch of other Spider men. I don't see how an outright replacement replacement of Peter would work.

      It takes one piece of shit to be consumed before the sales go down. Look at the Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, two complete pieces of shit that killed the Star Wars franchise, but there is a lag effect, as the public is moronic and takes time to digest their feelings. Miles Morales has killed Spider-Man, one day you'll realize that, you just don't get it yet because you're dumb.

      Spiderman is far less vulnerable compared to Star Wars

      Sony cannot make good live action Spider-Man movies. If they wanted to try, they would--nobody put a gun to their head and made them partner with Disney. The whole reason they were able to be convinced to prostitute him out to Disney in the first place was because of the failure of Garfield's movies. It doesn't matter how fresh and inspired whoever director's take is because Sony absolutely, 100% cannot deliver a quality film with it, and they know it. They've relegated themselves to creating weird, semi-MCU-canon spin-offs instead to just try to siphon off some MCU viewers into their ecosystem but every one of them has been ass.

      I am still shocked that they made the Spider-Verse films, but whatever lightning in a bottle they had there has clearly not transferred to the rest of the company.

      That's because they let Lord and Miller (the minds behind Lego Movie and Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs adaptation) do whatever they want.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Miles is popular
        He isn't. Miles is just getting forced into everything despite how unpopular he is. MCU Spider-Man LITERALLY is the only Spidey media left that isn't poisened by his garbage

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          He is popular with zoomers and gen alpha as seen on social media thanks to spiderverse (his game version is bland and basically what a white person thinks black people are like). But Peter is the ultimate face of Spider man in all demographics.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >He is popular
            No he isn't. You're projecting onto zoomers and gen alpha. Toy and costume sales for Miles have always been shit compared to Spider-Man.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >toy and costume sales of a legacy character compared to the flagship character with over 30 years of exposure
              Icelandic weather levels of IQ on full display

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >N-No you see he is really popular despite all the evidence suggesting the contrary. If we push him into every project maybe then he will become popular despite no one giving a single shit about him
                Milestrannies are so funny it's unreal

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I wonder if they share Bendis' BBC cuck fetish

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                They really fricked up Peter by changing his original face to whatever Tom Holland travesty they tried to do

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >MCU Spider-Man LITERALLY is the only Spidey media left that isn't poisened by his garbage
          Spider-Twink is still an unsufferable little zoomer twat.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >unsufferable
            True. We need Indian Spider-Man so back, sirs

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't want that... so nobody wants that 🙂
      chudlife in a nutshell
      remember when nobody wanted Black Panther? yeah

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Peter Parker is israeli now and supports Israel. Muttmerica craves their israeli heroes.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's impossible to agree with you because the Spiderverse sequel made bank last year. Zoomers don't give a shit about Peter Parker leaving.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Peter Parker is in the sequel and they're pulling him out of the shadows like an Avengers character in these dumb MCU movies.
        >Made bank
        If you mean it's the lowest grossing Spider-Man film next to Into the Spiderverse without even having to adjust for inflation you're correct.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Force Awakens is the most profitable Star Wars movie of all time. As I said before, normies are dim witted and only slowly get their feelings sorted out. First they go through denial and pretend they actually like garbage before they turn on it.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't wanna watch a Black person playing spiderman. Just pull a doctor who and change actors.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tom Rothman and Amy Pascal seriously need to get fired. They’ve bungled Sony’s two biggest franchises Spiderman and Ghostbusters and would’ve done the same to Barbie given the chance. The fact that Pascal is pushing Miles just means she’s another Kathleen Kennedy like c**t.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sony Pictures is a small insignificant part of the larger Sony Conglomerate. Sony Pictures is just to gain more brand credit.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Make it happen Sony

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      …Gentlemen? We’ve just fournd ourselves the true Spider-Man 4.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    they could literally just make Raimi-man 4 AND amazing 3 and both would print money. are they moronic?

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tom Rothman... Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long, long time.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Like a turd that won't flush

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Tom Holland is also signaling he'll depart the franchise after Spider-Man 4 and the next two Avengers films
    No he won't. Tom has no career outside of Spider-Man

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Boy won't you feel silly when Uncharted 2 makes $120 mil during its entire 3 week run at the box office

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Sony President Tom Rothman

    Kek, this is the same guy who hatefricked fans in that Wolverine Origins movie and demanded Deadpool's mouth be sewn shut the entire time. And isnt he also the same guy who said Doc Ock's tentacles should be called waldos and gave us the infamous whenever Spiderman isnt onscreen all the other characters should be standing around saying, Where's Spiderman?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Tom Rothman

      Hey! He's got something you'll never understand. Experience. That's what's wrong with your generation. You come in with your big ideas and your ideas of hitting the mark every time. But let me tell ya. That ain't realistic. But a guy who's failed but keeps going? That's a guy you can rely on. He ain't no quitter.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Kek, this is the same guy who hatefricked fans in that Wolverine Origins movie and demanded Deadpool's mouth be sewn shut the entire time. And isnt he also the same guy who said Doc Ock's tentacles should be called waldos and gave us the infamous whenever Spiderman isnt onscreen all the other characters should be standing around saying, Where's Spiderman?

      Wat? I want the qrd of this?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        There was a Spiderman internal doc that leaked awhile back. I think this is when they wanted Ahnuld Schvartzhomie to be Doc Ock. You need to find it, its loaded with nutball shit like this. Youll notice in the Raimi Spiderman its like the tentacles were talking to him. In the original it was even more batshit.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ok I may be misremembering the where's Spiderman thing and conflating it with Poochie from the Simpsons but I know there was a leaked doc with a bunch of other crazy shit in it. Does anyone have it?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          this was part of it. there were also some emails that were very work casual and i think people blew those out of proportion, but this is all i remember being public
          >

          get rekt

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      And he's unironically the voice of reason in this scenario. God help us

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Rothman is the voice of reason you guys
        I think I just found a quick litmus test for mental disability

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      same guy

      allegedly he's also one of the people Tom Cruise's producer character in Tropic Thunder is based on

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        He’s way too cool to be Rothman but I’m not surprised he tells people to go fist themselves up the ass in conference calls seems the type.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I would prefer if Spiderman had a more grounded approach to him considering the ending of no way home.
    If Tom Holland has to leave the franchise it should be in spiderman 5. I don't want to see him just disappear in some tangentially related piece of media. He should get his own film to himself.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Tom Rothman

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Qrd on ruining Daredevil?
      Maybe that’s why he doesn’t want the MCU Daredevil team up

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        the ben affleck movie

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      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        the best thing about daredevil was kingpin and he was race swapped. Duncan did an absolute fantastic job though

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      you can fail upward because to execs you're just meeting a ton of criteria and the movie failed for other reasons. must have been the marketing. must have been the character. spiderman 3 failed after too many characters in? must have been raimi's fault for wanting his characters in.

      see, we did market research after the movie bombed and it says people were sick of the character, they must have been sick of it before thats why no one saw it.

      Plus they are paid in stock options so its a big deal if you want to fire them, because they have a stake in it, if you want a new one you gotta create more shares somehow, which shakes things up if you don't have the cash to do it

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Marvel wants a street-level adventure where Spider-Man and Daredevil team up against the Kingpin
    this is what i want

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah that does sound good. Imagine the bantz. Dialogue between these two is always golden.

      Sony are still chasing that cinematic universe money even after the fad is over. Sony have fricked themselves. Their movies division is a money pit and now even the games division, their moneymaker is struggling because fans are sick of woke bullshit polluting every new release.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It would turn into the marvels 2.0

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah. Spidey and Daredevil have chemistry and have an actual history of working together.

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've got a spiderman idea ok? We take spiderman, in his daily life, and then an animal themed villain shows up, and spiderman has to fight the villain. And maybe it's hard because he has to also pay his bills and he can't get pussy.

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate this dude and love his wife. The dichotomy…

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Also found this too amusing not to post

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      ah so that is what happened.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you being transphobic?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Ellen Page was very clearly raped as a child by her israeli Producers.

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >One last solo movie and 2 avengers appearance for Peter Parker in the mcu
    Surely they’ll save his last avengers appearance for secret wars in the future right?

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    How are they going to pass the mantle to Miles? Are they going to kill Peter off? Or will they move the timeline forward that a mid 20’s Peter has enough of playing superheroes and quits permanently? Does he just not show up whenever NYC is getting destroyed by new villains?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're gonna make him into an uber cuck who constantly loses and Miles has to bail him out like in the Spider-Man game and to a lesser extend Spiderverse.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just generic passing the mantle thing, I doubt they'll kill Spidey for real

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Checkmate, racists.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah that's why you don't need a black spiderman cause Peter is the real one and he's wearing a mask so nonwhite kids can relate to him too. Checkmate, libshit

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Stan Lee is a israelite who tried to pretend he created Spider-Man despite Ditko doing the majority of the work

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I miss when people used to be able to not take a stand on things. Now it's binary. Pick a side. Do support the "victims" or not? Like, I don't got nothing to do with it. It's like asking me to pick batman or superman, when I like marvel, I don't give a shit.

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Never do anything out of Hunger. Not even eating.

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who are you quoting?

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just bring back Garfield and make TASM3
    They can even make him the Spidey of their stupid universe. Nobody wants a black spiderman in live action. Are these people allergic to money?

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    All capeshit is garbage, but the biggest mistake was getting spiderman mixed up with all the avengershit. It's so fricking boring. However Sony is incapable of making good movies independently, so there are no good options.
    Burn all comicshit to the ground.

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    ~~*Rothman*~~
    Also
    ~~*Feige*~~
    And
    ~~*Miles Morales*~~
    In addition too
    ~~*Garfield*~~
    And of course
    ~~*Marvel*~~

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Madame Web flopped and Kraven the Hunter tested poorly
    hahaha
    >Sony wants another Multiverse-themed film featuring Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and SUMC characters like Venom and Kraven.
    AHAHAHA
    >Amy Pascal has already approached Feige about setting Sony's planned live-action Miles Morales film in the MCU and having him take over as its Spider-Man
    AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Marvel wants a street-level adventure where Spider-Man and Daredevil team up against the Kingpin,
    Could actually be cool

    >Sony wants another Multiverse-themed film featuring Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and SUMC characters like Venom and Kraven
    Please no. The multiverse shit is so overplayed at this point. NWH was the peak of it. Just let it be.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Could actually be cool
      Wait until you see Daredevil Born Again before making such a moronic statement

  28. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Marvel wants a street-level adventure where Spider-Man and Daredevil team up against the Kingpin,
    That's the best approach especially if they're gonna keep the continuety of the Netflix show. In it Matt also threw out his private life to become a caper for a while. They could bond and possibly get into conflict because Peter's approach is clearly not good for himself.
    >Sony wants another Multiverse-themed film featuring Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and SUMC characters like Venom and Kraven.
    Gross. If people want a Tobey movie, give them a Tobey movie without any of that multiverse baggage.

  29. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Marvel wants a street-level adventure where Spider-Man and Daredevil team up against the Kingpin
    >Sony wants another Multiverse-themed film featuring Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and SUMC characters like Venom and Kraven.
    We're never getting a movie with Black Cat, are we?

  30. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >so Amy Pascal has already approached Feige about setting Sony's planned live-action Miles Morales film in the MCU and having him take over as its Spider-Man after Holland leaves.

  31. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    His legacy as on screen street level neighborhood Spider-Man:

    One week fighting the Vulture while in fricking high school

  32. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    God I want Sony to just make a huge fricking mess everywhere with Spider-Man.

  33. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >*destroys the spiderman brand forever by creating Miles*

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Brian Bendis, bro. He can't help it. He lives to take and destroy anything white, then lecture whites on how they're racist for not embracing the replacement.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Miles exists to sell sneakers to black kids.

  34. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    if tom leaves just recast him. do an older peter or something. people go to see the character. Holland is ok tbh for a young spiderman but he's not Robert Downy Jr, where the character hinges on the actor. Sony should just license him out with whatever villians they want and not sink a bunch of money into making shit no one sees. Even if Madame Web was good, its still got the same issue of being a character whose interesting function is the relation to spiderman.
    Marvel was successful with an intertwined universe, so let them do that, people don't want to have that commitment with other franchises. Marvel worked out because it was a few successful movies loosely tied together, they didn't go from the start thinking "if shit out a few introductions to these characters, then we can have avengers!" it was fairly organic. we don't even know what universe the spidey villians are in

  35. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >AND THEN THEY FIND OUT THERE'S A BUNCH OF OTHER UNIVERSES AND THEN THEY MEET CHARACTERS FROM BEFORE THE MCU EXISTED AND THEY FIND OUT MULTIVERSE MAN WHO LOOKS LIKE GEORGE FLOYD IS TRYING TO CONQUER ALL THE REALITIES AND THEN THEY HAVE TO ABANDON THE PLOTLINE BECAUSE THE ACTOR GOT IN LEGAL TROUBLE AND THEN THEY SOFT REBOOT SPIDER-MAN BECAUSE A MAGIC SPELL ERASED EVERYONE'S MEMORY AND THEN TOM HOLLAND QUITS AFTER A COUPLE MOVIES AND THEN THEY SOFT REBOOT AGAIN WITH MILES MORALES AND THEN—

  36. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    nobody wants to see a movie that exists so you can make a cool movie 5 years from now. spiderman is probably the only character i'd care to see from marvel at this point. Sony doesn't know what movies are in the first place, they think they are all just showcases for characters.

  37. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Someone for the love of god publish the Sony leaks

  38. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Tom Holland is also signaling he'll depart the franchise after Spider-Man 4
    They should just throw RDJ money at him since he's the only profitable thing in Marvel right now.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They probably think that Miles' popularity will be higher, and a noname Black person kid can be paid a lot less than Holland, as well

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        That would just be another nail in the coffin.
        A lot of people waited for Holland's Spider-man to finally be alone, and to lose that after just one movie would ruin it.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hell they can try if they want to after the spectacular flop that was The Marvels lmao

  39. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Sony wants another Multiverse-themed film
    >Amy Pascal has already approached Feige about setting Sony's planned live-action Miles Morales film in the MCU

  40. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’m done with Marvel and Sony.

    They’ve learned absolutely nothing.

  41. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    is every major film company just hell bent on fricking everything up?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
  42. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mean they knew it would flop. This was only a ploy to hold on to the IP. They've fulfilled their obligations. I mean, who the frick asked for a fricking Madame Web movie?? Who wanted this?! Nobody. Nobody asked for a goddamned Morbius movie. And certainly not a goddamn May Parker movie. I assume you newbies have read the Sony leaks before. That's who makes these movies. Those cringeblooded autists at Sony.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      there are 9000000 million other things that they could have done other than make a madame web movie that sucks in every way possible

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Amy Pascal never knew a good idea in her life and when she comes across a good idea she can shit on it to her heart’s content cause that’s how she rolls.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Molly's Game is a good movie. Pascal got the idea from hearing about Tobey Maguire's gambling problem. The Michael Cera cameo in the movie is a replacement for Maguire, so he wouldn't sue.

  43. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Give us the property.
    ITT: Cinemaphile makes a spider-man movie.

  44. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    If they lose Holland for Miles Morales, MCU will be truly over.

  45. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tom Holland is divisive sure but I hate that he wants to leave after the 4th movie. I always envision the 4th is the start of a new trilogy showing an older Peter while sowing the seeds for Miles. Hell even I thought Thor 4 would be the start of a new trilogy before Love & Thunder ruined it and now Hemsworth wants Thor 5 to be his last.

    On a very small bright side maybe no more Zendaya.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >sowing the seeds for Miles
      I don't think we need to sow any more seeds

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Man. That's just sad

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I didn’t think we could have a worse live action spider than Garfield but somehow Holland didn’t even manage to start his story until the end of his third movie and needed the two other better spider men to do it

  46. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Sony's planned live-action Miles Morales film in the MCU and having him take over as its Spider-Man after Holland leaves.
    DOA homosexual shits

  47. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    HAVE SEX HAVE SEX

    POOP MY PANTS POOP MY PANTS

  48. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are studio execs so amazingly stupid? It's been one full decade since the Sony email leaks and they're still just as moronic, if not worse. Zero lessons learned.

  49. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >DUDE…LE MULTIVERSE XD
    Sony and Marvel will continue to flail until they realize that the multiverse was, is, and will always be a bad idea

  50. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Time for the dream team to get back together

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