Marvel and Sony clashing over Spider-Man 4

Sony President Tom Rothman is reportedly desperate for a hit after Madame Web flopped and Kraven the Hunter tested poorly, and wants to rush the movie into production for a June 25, 2025 release, though he's willing to compromise to a December release like Spider-Man: Way Home. Kevin Feige doesn't want to release four MCU movies in one year and would rather release it in 2026 alongside Avengers: The Kang Dynasty. He's also too busy with Marvel's ongoing projects to take on another one, but Rothman isn't willing to wait for him.

Marvel wants a street-level adventure where Spider-Man and Daredevil team up against the Kingpin, Sony wants another Multiverse-themed film featuring Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and SUMC characters like Venom and Kraven.

Sony wants to bring Jon Watts back as the director even though he doesn't appear to be interested, Marvel would rather someone else take over the franchise and is courting Watts for a different gig.

Tom Holland is also signaling he'll depart the franchise after Spider-Man 4 and the next two Avengers films, so Amy Pascal has already approached Feige about setting Sony's planned live-action Miles Morales film in the MCU and having him take over as its Spider-Man after Holland leaves.

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Marvel wants a street-level adventure where Spider-Man and Daredevil team up against the Kingpin, Sony wants another Multiverse-themed film featuring Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and SUMC characters like Venom and Kraven.

    Why don't they just do both?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      So you want a gritty down-to-earth film that's completely off the wall and swarming with multiversal metahumans?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's pretty much what Sony wants.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Tom Holland is also signaling he'll depart the franchise after Spider-Man 4 and the next two Avengers films
    That sucks.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everything he does outside Spider-Man bombs financially and critically, I doubt he's going to give up the gig that easily

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I genuinely think he should be Link in LoZ film

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        That Romeo and Juliet thing he's doing has sold out shows

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      no, that's based. been waiting for this bumbling homosexual and his fugly ensemble of friends to get the boot already.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop trying to make shit like madame web or kraven happen you dumb Sony people

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    2026 is way too fricking long, the last movie was late 2021, literally longer than it takes for a college degree. Feige is killing them sitting on shit for years, it's why we got the last 5 years of bullshit instead of just jumping into X-men and Fantastic Four.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who cares? In the end we know it's going to be another Spider-Man movie made up of men, no sexy female heroes or villains, and if Black cat shows up he'll be just like that troony from the game

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like we are just 2-3 years away from finding out all the dumb bullshit in the MCU Soider-Man films like the Stark worship were actually Sony mandates all along

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    what's the point in having a live-action Kilometers Gonzales film? He doesn't have a story outside of throwing him into a group with better-written and more interesting Spider-People, so you'd just be making the animated movies all over again. Hell, most of the shilled Spider-People don't have anything going for them that would justify at least a trilogy, with exceptions like Miguel.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They'll sooner have Andrew or Tobey or a recast pick up the slack than have Miles as the only live action Spider-Man. MCU can afford losing RDJ as Iron Man, Sony without Peter Parker is nothing.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >think it's back to basics after NWH
    >actually it's going to be another multiversal hack job then the actor will retire
    Lmao. At that point why not just recast?

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    This mentality is literally why Marvel has a successful cinematic universe and Sony doesnt

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sony sound like such douches.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    wants a street-level adventure where Spider-Man and Daredevil team up against the Kingpin, Sony wants another Multiverse-themed film featuring Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and SUMC characters like Venom and Kraven.

    Marvel clearly has the smarter idea.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sony's looking back at the success of NWH and Spider-Verse, Marvel's looking back the disdain people had for its last several films/shows. Looks like they have two very different ideas of what audiences think about multiverse slop.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Marvel's most successful post-Endgame releases were Multiverse-themed (No Way Home, Multiverse of Madness, Loki). This perceived audience rejection to the concept is pure Cinemaphilepe.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    based sony. frick daredevil. he's a lame character.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why doesn't Sony pay more money for actually good writers and directors so their movies don't bomb? Even if they're mediocre and formulaic they'd be a step up from what they've been doing.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because they don't know what good writing is. How can you cook for others if you can't taste?

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >esperate for a hit after Madame Web flopped and Kraven the Hunter tested poorly
    Did they actually expect any of this shit to be a hit, Venom is the only one people care about. I genuinely didn't think corpo suits were this moronic

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Marvel goes out of its way to give a tonally faithful adaptation of Ed Brubaker's Captain America, a character normies didn't care about until he got a movie
    >we never got Uncle Ben
    >we never got If This Be My Destiny
    >we never got Spider-Man No More
    >we never got Norman or Harry (no, a character zoomer-man met once as part of a multiverse story doesn't count)
    >we never got death of Gwen Stacy
    >we never got to see Mary Jane become less of a party girl and more mature after the death of Gwen Stacy
    >we never got Hobgoblin
    >we never got Death of Jean DeWolff
    >we never got the marriage of Peter and Mary Jane
    >Zoomer-Man will get the black suit and then quit Spider-Man forever?!?!?!
    >this is literally the most popular Marvel character of all time
    Look, I'm not some Cinemaphile.org /misc/chud. I like the Spider-Verse movies, I like the Saladin Ahmed and Cody Ziglar Miles runs. I also like Peter Parker, and if they don't just use Secret Wars as a way to recast Peter they have learned nothing from the mistakes of their post-Endgame phases.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're part of the problem

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I like the Saladin Ahmed and Cody Ziglar Miles runs

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Sony wants another Multiverse-themed film featuring Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and SUMC characters like Venom and Kraven.
    >want to cheapen what made nwh a success AND force in characters from their shitty series
    Sony's film division is hilarious. How the Raimi trilogy turned out so well is amazing, even with 3 being flawed.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anyone who actually understood the industry left Sony films around Spider-man 3 or just after. Sonys leaked emails show what complete morons they are internally. The emails that leaked way back in 2014 should tell you everything you need to know about how that film division is run. They announced Fem Ghostbusters with no idea what the movie was simply based on their meeting with the director and the idea of Fem Ghosbusters. When other departments like marketing were emailing for clarification as to what the frick this movie even was so they could try and do their jobs, Pascal and others dismissively ignored them then emailed each other saying "They just don't get it"

      • 3 months ago
        Boco

        God I hate Pascal.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sony email leaks was one of the best things to happen in the film industry.
        So much hackery and terrible shit, and you had names attached to all of it so you knew exactly who to laugh at.
        They really thought a 21 Jump Street x Men in Black movie was a slam dunk idea.

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    No Way Home 2 would suck so hard.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I want them to do a NWH2 but instead they get a bunch of actors, both famous and literally whos, to play the different Peter variants and they just meander and shoot the shit for the entire movie while solving the main conflict.

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Late '21 to mid '25 is 'a rush'.
    Tom's not getting any younger.

  19. 3 months ago
    DoctorGreen

    >so Amy Pascal has already approached Feige about setting Sony's planned live-action Miles Morales film in the MCU and having him take over as its Spider-Man after Holland leaves
    it's over for Sony

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I really look forward to the book that gets written years after this whole loose partnership with Sony and Marvel is over.
    I really want to read the chapter in which Feige loses his shit over Sony trying to sneak Keaton's Vulture into Morbius.

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Marvel wants a street-level adventure where Spider-Man and Daredevil team up against the Kingpin, Sony wants another Multiverse-themed film featuring Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and SUMC characters like Venom and Kraven.

    Kingpin hires Kraven to kill Spider-Man. There you go.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry anon, that makes too much sense to anyone who isn't on coke. Snort a fat line of Bolivian marching powder and try again.

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Sony's planned live-action Miles Morales film in the MCU and having him take over as its Spider-Man
    Donald for Spiderman!

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Marvel wants a street-level adventure where Spider-Man and Daredevil team up against the Kingpin
    I NEEEEEEEEEED IIIIIIIT

  24. 3 months ago
    Boco

    Wow, its almost like Rothman is a fricking hack.

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >would rather release it in 2026
    Crazy that he was ok having HC, FFH, and NWH be released two years apart, but not for the fourth movie.

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