>Marvel: Ben Reilly can't be a hero because there's just no more room for more Spider-People when Miles Morales exist
>Also Marvel: Here's Spider-Boy, Nightcrawler as Spider-Man, and Ultimate Spider-Man 2.0
>Also Sony: Everybody can be Spider-Man in our current wildly (and only) successful Spider-Man franchise
I hope they fix Ben soon
>I hope they fix Ben soon
Nah. Expect more ruin to Ben and equal amounts of ruin to Kaine.
I want them instead to have their own niche, visit Peter from time to time and simply bro-up.
Not to mention an having an alternative reality where Peter has a family and the two are cool uncles...but then May will have her own Uncle Ben problem.
I wonder how Ben would react to April? I know MC2 Kaine didn't trust her if I am remembering correctly.
Probably also distrustful at first (but less than Kaine) but would get over it quickly.
Wonder if MC2 Kaine would've gotten over his distrust of her over time?
>Wonder if MC2 Kaine would've gotten over his distrust of her over time?
She would probably still need to be alive
Yeah that's the problem here.
But isn't it that in the end her fate was ultimately unknown? Or did someone confirm she's deceased?
Pretty sure the burning building and the explosion would have killed her. Though a writer could bs her back to life by saying a piece of her survived. Here's some black suit mayday
Peter himself said that clones are actually pretty tough, so she might've actually survived.
Have some GuriHiru Mayday.
I give it a thumbs up
This not funny in the least anon, out of curisoty do you find this amusing by the way? MJ certainly did turn out be quite the cheater.
And jst whatv exactly was your point in posting this we all know Gwen died long ago this adds nothing to it.
Lol that is no longer canon.
When will you realize that canon doesn't matter? The story still exist and can be read, Gwen is forever tainted lmao.
Nope this is no longer the case spencer saw to that but Norman on the other hand is tainted forever for selling his son soul to the devil.
Spencer also had Peter and mjs love as so pure it would create a child that would beat mephisto.
Mephisto taunted them with both Mayday who is still alive somewhere as a teenager same age as Dylan Brock and Annie May who is the kid destined to put an end to him.
Yes, mephisto predicted that a spider will be his downfall
I'm saying it because the polak has a bigger hate boner for MJ than quesada.
I am storytiming JLA avengers right now and guess who were the editors for DC and Mavel circa 2003...
It was pre quesada. Quesada is why the crossovers stopped
Was 2003 still Jemas?
I unironically miss Jemas, even with all his moronic opinions. At least Marville is "point at it and laugh" bad rather than modern "we made this shit bad on purpose so you get angry and somehow that translates to more sales" bad.
It was pre didio too. Quesada had the dc beef over designing azrael iirc.
Jemas was dumb but he didn't form an in group like quesada did
That Spider?
Miles Morales
Hopefully Chadphisto clutches the dub. He'll literally save Spider-Man lore if he does. Peter will owe him for life.
He already fricked it for over a decade
>May Parker was so damn dangerous to Mephisto's existence that he made sure Peter's and MJ's marriage is deader than dead
Darn. It's like writers know what people want and tease everyone about it.
I liked that part. Actually made Miles feel what Peter does when he screws up.
Anon, not May, Annie, May would be Annie's inspiration, May is brunette as peter, and that spider girl has red hair, Annie would take on May and become the new spider girl.
Read the page again.
shut the frick up anniegay. No way in hell they would do annie in 616 if it ever comes to that
SLOBB no matter how many times you hate May and Annie, the marriage and peter's legacy are stronger than (you)
I think it's just an undeterminable spider girl.
And yet MJ having fricked Paul did happen care to to explain how that is possiable. If Peter's and MJ love is so pure?
>trusting AI mephisto harry
sins past will always remain canon
No he fricked Mysterio not Gwen.
He didn't even?
Oh yes he did.
unfortunately for you the truth can't be retconned
Hu did they fake a pic too?
Did Harry go gay for Peter ?
Why does she look so old
That photo does not exist it's just a illusion made by Mysterio see how easy it easy it is to explain the retcon.
>Truth is, you kinda kiss like a brother too.
is she eluding to a sibling or a “brother”?
either way, gprostitute is GOBBED, BLACKED, and SIBLINGD
0/10 not meant for Peter
>either way, gprostitute is GOBBED, BLACKED, and SIBLINGD
>0/10 not meant for Peter
The truth is you are a idiot it's over Sins Past is forever non-canon deal with it.
fake harry trolled norman by saying mysterio did all this when it makes no sense.
you think mysterio could really fake all this for so long? you think the celestial would’ve beamed down a gprostitute if he didn’t have a connection to her outside of making peter kill her?
you got trolled by AI harry just like norman lol
gprostitute is forever tainted and sins past is canon deal with it
captcha 4xwamo
Nothing in comics makes sense but that doesn't mean it's not canon it's over sins past is no longer canon.
sins past is canon, my sources at marvel editorial proved it and confirmed ? check zeb wells twitter? dumbass.
Pic?
That was just somebody impersonating wells lol. you feel for a fraud anon.
Dan Slott confirmed as well, sorry bro Gwen is actually Gprostitute
Slott lies about things all the time anything he says should be taken with a grain of salt.
Proof?
Slott uses alts to stalk the people he blocks and denies it. Also known in the past to complain about people making alts to stalk him.
I said proof not a paragraph of nothing.
I mean frick it most of its "empirical evidence", but I ain't about to hunt for slott shit rn.
>I'm just quoting specific incident from cbr.
TRUE! frick gprostitute bawdy!
The only bawd is MJ who is fricking Paul
>kiss like a brother
Did Sarah frick gabe?
Why do you love these awful retcon comics that ruin everything so much? What's wrong with you? Either you have the worst taste on Earth and you like crap with no redeeming features, or you're just constantly taunting Cinemaphile with how Marvel actually published this worthless garbage fanfic. Think about your life. Think about your choices.
I like Spencer but the polak just posts the one panel because sins past makes him seethe. He ignores everything about the fricking run
Right on quee
You realize that Spencer didn't write that? Spencer had both say their lives were meaningless without the other. If you wanna keep bringing up the sins past thing then deal with the rest or gtfo
>like Spencer but the polak just posts the one panel because sins past makes him seethe
Why should I be botherd about sins past since I know it is no non-canon? be serious now anon.
>caring about canon
you've never read a comic
it's almost like they write comics per his requests. Wants gwen back they bring her back. Wants ben reilly ruined they do so
Gwen likes rentfree in maryprostitutegays heads, despite Gwen having no fans.
gwen is dead move on
>that neck snap head smash into the ground
Dyke Hair Mayday sucks
It's not the hair that is important in a person. It's what kind of person he or she is that matters.
It more or less the art/artist
That too. Pixie cuts can be sexy when the art and character are done right.
Damn. That was when I didn't have my coffee and didn't read right...
there are 2 girls there, the little girl has red hair
Mayday is brunette.
Straight girls that have that sort of hair are the best
I hope both marvel and dc end.
Either make Ben a good guy as Chasm or a good guy as another Scarlet Spider, re-teaming him in a book with Ben as the two brothers try ti re-establish their lives ("Scarlet Spiders") but the current direction for him is terrible.
>Marvel: Ben Reilly can't be a hero because there's just no more room for more Spider-People when Miles Morales exist
That's just Nick Lowe taunting people.
Re-Reading Damnation today, all of Ben's issues started the moment he sold his soul to mephisto to save a little girl and had Kaine discover what he did.
The girl was saved because she is now half angel, but Ben's soul was damned because of that.
>Re-Reading Damnation today, all of Ben's issues started the moment he sold his soul to mephisto to save a little girl and had Kaine discover what he did.
>The girl was saved because she is now half angel, but Ben's soul was damned because of that.
Wait, so ultra-edgy Kaine is the only Parker brother who didn't sell his soul to Mephisto?
No wonder no one thinks he's hardcore.
>Wait, so ultra-edgy Kaine is the only Parker brother who didn't sell his soul to Mephisto?
Yep
But Ben didn't sell his soul, he told Mephisto to frick off which is why Mephisto possessed Kaine and got them to fight again
The height of Ben's popularity is being a joke character in Miles's movies.
I know it's hard seeing whites fall in irrelevancy and seeing black characters rise to prominence, but that's reality anons. You must face it. Don't be a whiney loser, nobody likes those.
>movie carried on the shoulders a character whose Mexican mom got BLEACHED by the whitest man to ever exist
Miggers kneel in front of the Bastard GigaCHAD
Someone say, "Migger"?
can we use this as the Spidey thread? The only other options are
>vidya thread
>yet another NWH deleted stuff thread
>Pedo-Boy thread
>Kilemeters bait thread
what's stopping you from creating one yourself?
there was a thread earlier, actually, and it got deleted some 4 posts in.
don't see anything in archive
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/139704128/
god damn, only two replies in and it got 404d
YOU didn't try
i didnt try what moron? spamming spider-man threads?
because there can't be more than 1 spider-man thread but we can have 12 fionna and cake threads at any time
Kindly stop with the inbawds towards Gwen Stacy with these dumb edits. there truly is nothing funny about her death and quite frankely I am sick of seeing crap like this.
In b4 the antibengays arrive
If Marvel hadn't pulled "Ben is the original and Peter is the clone" stuff, how would the clone saga have changed? Would Marvel allow something like this to happen in the first place back then?
There’s a chance it would’ve been the status quo until the movie, I have no problem with Ben taking over and letting pete start his family. But I like pete as a person and could see Ben doing the spidey thing until he felt he needed to define himself on his own
I was reading and Marvel replacing Peter was exciting to me. It seemed bold at the time
It’s funny to think that Ben is the exact opposite of what spiderverse wrote him as. At the point of his writing in pete was tired grieving and angry while Ben contrasted him by having an upbeat and excited demeanor at being spidey. It worked with letting pete become a family man while having spidey free to have relationship and money troubles. I still don’t understand the thought process behind them pushing Ben as the “original”.
It could had worked if Peter was in the background helping Kaine and Ben.
But Batman Beyond was years away
>we’ll never get a Parker bros mini about Pete Ben and Kaine going on a road trip
Why does it have to hurt bros?
You can do it yourself.
Having Ben take over as spiderman while Peter moved on to be a family would have been okay. But they flipped flop on whether Peter or Ben was the real Peter which was moronic.
Yeah, they crashed the landing no doubt
And they didn't really need to. Also the cult was just a stupid idea too
Didn't sales tank with Ben as spider-man?
They tanked all across the board in the mid-90s
Nope. I went through it on Comic-chron, and there was already a bit of a mish-mash on Marvel using some distributors and DC/Image using others, but the numbers you find are all averagely on the same lane. Glenn Greenberg's recollection on Life of Reilly says the sales were kept steady and even went up during this period, even with the crash going around and everything.
Bob Budiansky, who was Spider-Man editor at the time, was sacked regardless. Even Brevoort, of all people, consider him to have been done wrong since he kept sales good for the period.
: Ben Reilly can't be a hero because there's just no more room for more Spider-People when Miles Morales exist
But Miles fricking sucks and is unnecessary. Just toss him and put Ben in the spotlight.
Ben's a literal clone and he's still more original than Peter Darker.
>Peter Darker
bump for Ben's thicc butt
Janine pls
what if it is Madeleine?
I think she keot him in Limbo as a replacement for Alex
>what about kaine?
>marvel: who?
Marvel is leaving Money on the table by not doing a proper Scarlet Spider series
Ben will stop being evil, but will keep the Chasm identity. Him and Hallows Eve will move to a different state and set up shop as anti-heroes. They will get their own book that will be cancelled in a year and Marvel will use that as proof nobody cares about Ben and then ignore his existence for years.
Well shit. Can chasm at least get a web cape like Spiderman unlimited and 2099
He could make one with his goo powers
Is that a rumour or something you believe will happen?
It's actually just that Ben sucks, they're trying to be nice. But that facts are they've thrown you too many bones and Ben should just stay gone. He's a terrible relic from OMD 1.0 that needs to be gone for a healthy franchise.
What bones?
Marvel interns hard day of work at the propoganda machine.
>healthy franchise
Ben had decades to be popular and never was, despite all the push he got. Miles, Miguel, and even Spider-Gwen and Silk got bigger than him, in much smaller time frames.
>Ben never was popular
Settle down, zoomie. The adults are talking.
>despite all the push he got
WHAT
Gwen and Ben had such insane situations because the 90s and 00s writers were at war over whether or not to simply bring them back or maintain the status quo. Honestly, I'm happy the millennial writers have finally made Gwen a mainstay again because her being killed everytime is stupid as hell.
We need Kaine to bring Ben back to the light:
>"Scarlet Spiders" mini series by DeMatteis or Yost;
>Kaine, Aracely and Janine rescue Ben;
>Road trip story, going away from NY;
>Lost Years 2.0, closing the trilogy (Lost Years, Redemption);
>From Daily Grind to Houston to LA, we get to see various support cast members;
>Ben doesn't have his memories, but by hearing of his influence in the life of his friends he regains his sense of what being a hero really is;
>Have a villain of the week who mirrors his villainous side (as the Jackal, Chasm) to show how stupid villain Reilly is;
>Reformed Spidercide wants to follow the path to redemption too. Wears the new Scarlet Spider outfit;
>Ends with the Scarlet Spiders moving away from Peter and NY and being on their own;
Happy ending for fans, Marvel solved the clone problem. Only use the in mini series.
>Reformed Spidercide
Come again? Is this a thing?
Yes, Spidercide now has a retcon crush on Ben.
Also he has a backup of all of Ben memories, but editorial is too stupid to make Ben remember that.
Watch Spidercide die so ben kaine and peter are in good terms once the new clone saga begins AGAIN now that all the crew is back
>Spidercide turning into a housewife just to make Ben happy
As weird as it sounds this actually happened
Why does it look like some gay fanfic? Why is Spidercide a skinny b***h now? wtf is going on?
He's not, when he "Hulks out" he turns into old Spidercide and also can create various sentient copies of himself.
Uhhuh. Is it just me or it's stupid garbage? Just me?
That's way too fricking OP, come on.
Read the book. It's jmd.
They're so much worse now.
>Read the book.
Meh, no thanks. I gave up on the Spider titles long ago. I'll wait for them to retcon all the bullshit first. Meaning I'll probably read some new Spider related stuff in 15 years, give or take.
It's a retroactive book. Not set in the present.
Huh. Well then I'll look into it, thanks anon.
Doesn't disprove that ben tanked sales when Peter wanted to have a family in the drug infested city that is portland
Well sure. But it was a general industry downturn. And up to then the clone saga was one of the few things that sold well. And Portland is better than marvel new york
It's kind not because he almost dies doing it and ends up in a coma.
I think it was once in a lifetime, like Peter holding the Daily Bugle building
The end of Ben's 2022 mini by JMD opened the door for Spidercide's redemption, but the solicitations for Spine-Tingling Spider-Man mention a fight between him and Peter, so the door may have been slammed shut.
So when does spine tingling take place?
I don't think they've said when it's supposed to take place.
>JMD giving his kids chances of redemption
>Marvel spits on these chances and says "Frick them clones"
We can only pray Kaine avoids the spotlight...
>Marvel spits on these chances and says "Frick them clones"
I agree with them, frick them clones. Why the frick does there need to be all these Spider-People swinging around? Especially something as dumb as a fricking clone. Fanboys need to learn how to let shit go.
It would mean anything of this wasn't the same people that make 30 new ones each month. Lowe just hates ben
Fine, let miles the twink go!
Clones are based
I’m not a fanboy so I don’t care about this shit. Clones are stupid.
Nah they're based
Peter has actual friends, why couldn’t he have this interaction with someone who isn’t himself?
Because that's Peter and Ben getting distracted while going through boxes of their shared memories.
Nick Lowe just hates Ben Reilly and no one working there who cares has enough pull to fight for him
They're being polite, Ben is just boring. There's nothing he can do that Peter, Miguel or Miles can't do better. He adds nothing. He's the Azazel of Spider-Man.
Name one (1) thing Miles has done better than Ben
make dem white bois seethe
So you admit Miles is a ragebait character
In a Spider-Man comic, who isn't?
Die in a fire.
Blackface is racist, Pete.
Create energy swords out of thin air 'cause he's dah very best.
(I just realised Miles is fricking Poochie.)
He’s done her
Said better. Not worse.
Always knew Miles was a gay
Meanwhile . . .
Ben is Smarter than Peter
Ben has more of an "edge" than Peter because he had to literally fight for everything and to prove he deserved an existence.
While at the same time, he is also more enthusiastic about being a Spider!
Even in a vacuum Ben is not a great character to begin with
I disagree
He's edgier Peter. Boring
>He's edgier Peter
Doesn't seem that way to me
No character is good in a vacuum. Ben is great
They just need to either kill him and leave him dead finally or let him move away like Kaine.
You can't convince me the schizos ITT are not manifactured "personalities" created as a coordinated attempt by Marvel employees to drown out the discussion.
No, I will not take my meds.
>Ultimate Spider-Man 2.0
Excuse me what?
Jonathan Hickman is writing Ultimate Spider-Man 2.0 for Ultimate Universe 2.0, which is not the same character and Bendis's Ultimate Spider-Man.
>Jonathan Hickman writing a spider-man book
Interesting. Do we know if its Pete, Miles or a brand new character?
Is Paul per parker house pic on twitter
It’s confirmed Miles.
Better Hickman than Bendis I guess. He is probably going to write a proper origin story, yes?
I like Ben. He has a lot of good qualities. Most important of them all is he's not black.
Why do you guys even bother with this shit anymore? You still have plenty of the old stuff to enjoy. Why even give your time to the crap they're coming out with now? Move on.
Because as evidenced by me falling for "this time Dexter will get a proper ending" twice, I'm too deep into the sunk cost fallacy.
Bendis fricked everything, and so did that coon who wanted a token Spider-Man based off Obomber of all frickin people.
50 cent spiderman would have been a better idea
Why hasn’t Spider-Man done shit like this?
I love Gwen Stacy!
Forgot pic! I love Gwen!
peter kisses like this brother according to gwen
That was sarah
sarah is gwen's clone
Who the frick is this homie?
Oh that's just a illusion made by Mysterio along with Harry aimed towards Gwen as a prank towards her.
I only hate annie damn moron. Actually you must be slott yourself right? Why else would you try to shift conversation like that, as if slott wouldn't be elated to see annie replace mayday
meant for
Slott never greenlighted RYV, who did that was Lowe of all people because Lowe wanted a SM story outside MC2 because alonso still had his beef against defalco.
And Lowe Remembered that the page had 2 girls, one being Mayday, the other being the redhead girl who Mary jane was obviously pregnant and didn't know it at the time because of the commotion over Aunt May.
If there is one to blame and HATE for what is happening at ther spider man editorial atm Is Slott and Brevoort.
Both who deserves a meeting with Fleece Johnson tied up without lube now that he left jail.
Why does alonso have beef with defalco?
Alonso is OMD team and hated MC2
All stories slott wrote for RYV were to frick over the marriage and Annie, which not only failed horribly but defalco had the last laugh since Annie and May came stronger from that and the spiderverse shitshow.
it is obvious at this rate that the editorial as of now HATES not only peter and the marriage, but also his legacy, to a point they even erased him from the fricking web as the OG spider-man into fricking Cindy Moon, who is the lard piece of shit OC, and almost had May and Annie killed and MC2 and RYV erased.
All because of some moronic beef over DeFalco and the marriage since the only person who he will marry right now and he is hiding, is a MTF troony.
Your deflection is obvious fatso.
Not yet, only at NYCC.
> but defalco had the last laugh since Annie
defalco has nothing to do with annie you retarted schizo. I swear you anniegays are all insane
Continue reeing for i am right gaylord.
How?
It's irrelevant to my complaint with that damn moron. Not a week goes passed without slott saying that he wrote ryv. He wants it to succeed whether it's to frick with defalco or to get the last frick you to marriage fans
proof?
>Both who deserves a meeting with Fleece Johnson tied up without lube now that he left jail.
Yeah this is Slott.
Annie is cute but she should suffer a lot more.
Any leaks about the future of Ben/Chasm?
He becomes a gothic bad boy with an interest in wizardry. Seriously.
chasm and hallows eve move to the west coast and become anti-heroes
ben and peter pull pranks on each other and bang each others gf for lols