How the frick are people not tired of superhero movies yet? I watched first ironman and the dark knight trilogy and that was enough capeshit for one lifetime, personally
I didn't care for GotG3 and was depressed to see people being like "Finally, a good MCU film!", but I'm not going to pretend it wasn't both critically and commercially successful. I do think we're fricked if a film like that is enough to satisfy people, but that's just how the world is.
But is not about supers, is the whole "action comedy/quippy" genre being oversaturated and killed by marvel.
See the "unrelated" bombs like D&D and fall guy, all the same thing.
uhhhhh but marvel movies have been all vastly different genres like winter soldier was a political fiction thriller!
You people are fricking moronic
Quippy fun fast shit with good writing and good characters and good actors is the best and the best from the mcu proved it
It's just everything sucks now
infinity war was so fricking good and the first iron man was almost as good which says so much
They could make more shit and have Toby Maguire come back and have a true secret war with deadpool and old cast from the xmen n all that or something and everyone would love it but the people all in charge are all women and poopskins so it just all sucks and everything is just fricked
They tried to make a whole new saga with that kang character but Black folk are gonna nig and he just couldn't help himself so he raped or beat someone irl or whatever it was so now that is all fricking scrapped and all those movies don't matter and now basically none of it does
So basically.. frick women, frick Black folk, and frick israelites. Marvel has so much potential and the slop we used to get proves it and people should be mad at that and not happy that it's all over now
>How the frick are people not tired of superhero movies yet?
They are, The Marvels is the biggest financial flop in the history of Hollywood. It lost twice as much money as The Flash, another massive capeshit bomb released the same year. The nightmare is almost over
>$201 million at the box office (disney takes half of that) >$275 million budget (doesn't include marketing)
Not only it's the biggest flop of all time it also lost more money than the two or three next flops combined.
The Flash only lost $155M and isn't even in the Top 20 biggest bombs of all time
After being told by the media for months it was the biggest of all time, that's quite dishonest
When will people admit that movie got shafted for no reason?
Similar. I saw that Thor movie where Cate Blanchett is all hot as frick, which was the only enjoyable thing about that movie. Also saw a Guardian of the Galaxy movie that I absolutely cannot recall what it was about if my life depended on it. That was enough Marvel for me. And I'm not some elitist frick. Those movies were just terrible.
If you're a wage slave, like myself, a good movie, book, sports event, can be a nice reprieve from them monotonous drudgery of our daily lives.
I repair flat tires at the auto shop for a living.
When I walk home in my wagie unifrom I'm as close to a ghost as a human can get without dying. It's kind of nice though, be invisible.
Did you ever get tired of a movie genre you like? There's like 5 or 6 superhero movies a year, so roughly one every two months. That's nothing compared to most other genres. If you watch at least 100 movies a year, and you see every superhero movie, that's only about 5%.
What is this dipshit trying to say?
I would absolutely be cringing if this was 1950 and there were 2 singing cowboy westerns a month being released. I'm also glad my house doesn't have lead paint, doesn't mean I'm not going to get upset if I find mold. >uniquely affronted
I'm *not* uniquely affronted by Superhero films, I didn't give a shit when it was 2010 and I didn't need to hear about them and see ads for them literally everywhere I went.
homosexuals think being pedantic makes them intelligent. nobody gives a frick that there were obviously way too many westerns being released in the 50s, and it also doesn't make it so that installment #76 in comic book movie universe A isn't the same tired, played-out shit as the previous 10 films
Western as a genre didn't mean all westerns were the same. Every superhero movie now is so formulaic and deals with stupid current modern day politics.
Westerns were popular because they were an escape from reality, while still being close enough to be in living memory and familiar. Imagine if every western they made just dealt with the modern day politics of the 50s. Would get stupid real quick.
It's about who you're selling to. A wig store makes a killing in the ghetto but not in a suburban neighborhood. Belittling men sold in Barbie because it's a movie for women. It won't work in movies that have traditionally targeted males 18-35
Someone already indirectly pointed this out, but superhero movies are a lot like westerns. There was a decade or two where it felt like that was literally all they made. Then people got tired of them and they stopped making money, so westerns stopped being made so much. It takes a painfully long time for people to get bored but we're on the tail end of it now.
Someday there's going to be a superhero movies channel on TV for old millennials to watch every superhero movie ever made, much like old boomers watch westerns on Grit and MeTV.
They're playing the long game. Their trash will haunt streaming catalogs for decades. They're hoping kids will grow up on it and like it regardless of it being shit. Kids are moronic, that works. Look at the love from zoomers for the newer Lucas Star Wars movies. It does work.
I've been saying for a while that this won't happen - garbage like The Hobbit is now a decade old and Zoomers nostalgic for it are nowhere to be found
At some point you'll probably have to acknowledge the prequels were flawed but had merit, like their underrated close peer Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
You might be right. Maybe things are so bad that even kids aren't munching them down the same. I had good taste as a kid (uppity knowitall prick), and would not have stood for most this. I hated most everything, as was proper.
>At some point you'll probably have to acknowledge the prequels were flawed but had merit,
They really don't though. The casting is terrible throughout. Just the worst damn casting for almost every character, small and large. The lighting, the direction, the writing - all shit.
They were just trash. They're not hidden gems. They were trash.
>garbage like The Hobbit is now a decade old and Zoomers nostalgic for it are nowhere to be found
That's not true, I see threads on Cinemaphile praising The Hobbit all the time. It's even the same situation as Star Wars where new content (the Amazon show) makes contrarians go back and like the old content.
So if you've been saying that for a while you've been wrong for a while.
>Stocks are bombing >instead of trying to win back the old fans you alienated and lost with DEI Trash, double down on producing Larry Fink wokeslop.
Disney is fricking moronic. They had a good thing and ruined it for no reason other than impressing some wealthy israelites at a bank.
but why the limit? if they were worried about people burning out with too much content, why not just make even more than ever just full blast everything so much that people come around to liking it again?
but why the limit? if they were worried about people burning out with too much content, why not just make even more than ever just full blast everything so much that people come around to liking it again?
I remember reading phase 1 had 12 hours of content before the big payoff movie and phase 5 or whatever they are on now has like 70 with no payoff
even if you enjoy these things it has to feel like work after a while, you have to know what happened in every previous thing or you won't know what's going on
Is there really anything going on though? It's not like you can't get the gist of the story just by watching the characters interact. Sometimes a character gets a cool new scar or outfit or whatever but that's about it
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I remember reading phase 1 had 12 hours of content before the big payoff movie and phase 5 or whatever they are on now has like 70 with no payoff
even if you enjoy these things it has to feel like work after a while, you have to know what happened in every previous thing or you won't know what's going on
The dirty secret of the MCU is that you really don't need to watch any of it to "understand it" there's no fricking deep cuts or hidden lore that has any impact on the plot of the event movies whatsoever
Pic related, Agent Coulson came back to life and fought mutants and aliens for six seasons and turned into a robot and died again and it's all totally canon trust me bro but nobody will ever know or care, including his dear friends that wept for him in The Avengers
>The dirty secret of the MCU is that you really don't need to watch any of it to "understand it" there's no fricking deep cuts or hidden lore that has any impact on the plot of the event movies whatsoever
Is that really a secret? I mean, out of all the Avengers movies for example, I've only watched the last two (Infinity War, Endgame). I never once felt like I cared about the characters or that the characters had interesting relationships with one another. I can't remember any callbacks to the previous movies (that I never saw). I know one movie is all about Ultron but I don't think they ever mention Ultron ever again.
The one exception I think is Guardians of the Galaxy. Those actually felt like real films with actual characters. Haven't seen the third one yet.
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>Is that really a secret?
Captain Marvel and Black Panther each pulled a billion dollars on "The final battle won't make sense unless you watch them first!"
I was trolled into watching Captain Marvel but refused to watch Black Panther because I'm that racist and to my chagrin I learned that Captain Marvel contributed virtually nothing to Endgame beyond "Hey there's a really strong flying chick that Samuel L. Jackson knows" and my complete ignorance of Black Panther did nothing to prevent me from grasping "Oh, the African warrior dudes are there to help them"
Before Endgame: >Marvel made 21 movies, 1 of them flopped (sorry Hulk)
After Endgame: >Marvel made 11 movies, 5 of them flopped
The ratio is absolutely fricked now
Also, the absolute fire alarm should be over the fact that Captain Marvel made $1.1 billion and Captain Marvel 2 made $200 million
It's a smart move, most marvel movies doesn't get any attention on social media, there are hardly any threads on Cinemaphile about the newest marvel movie, it doesn't create discussion (bad or good). When they over saturate whatever market there may be, the viral (natural) marketing goes down.
To maximize the potential profit from whatever shit they spit out, they should produce less so people doesn't loose interest.
This is the real problem, the deterioration of a brand. A bad movie within a "world" isn't reflected in the box office, it's the subsequent movies that tend to suffer.
e.g. I went to the movie theatre to see Star Wars TFA, I like starwars so i went, i did not go to the theater to see TLJ, i saw it from home using a free movie site, i have not seen TROS.
As a customer, it was the lower than expected quality of TFA that made me not spend money in the theatre the next time, it was TFA + TLJ that caused a lack of desire to see TROS.
There is a delay of dissatisfied customers, it only shows up the "next time", and continuous disappointments leaves the consumer to associate the brand with poor quality entertainment; the next couple of Marvel movies could be great, but a lot of people won't go to the movie theatre bc it is Marvel and expect it to not be good or even decent entertainment.
MoM, as evidenced by it's box office dropping off a cliff after word of mouth started spreading, is the movie where audiences said to themselves "I'm done with this Marvel stuff". The campy tone and terrible writing showed that Marvel had lost their touch (the magic ingredient of phase 3 was that they leaned toward nuance and careful treatment of characters, after Endgame the breaks came off and dumb creative decisions were made).
Turning one of their very few actually complex characters into a campy Saturday Morning cartoon villain was a big "frick you" to audiences.
>The campy tone and terrible writing
Literally every Marvel movie. >the magic ingredient of phase 3 was that they leaned toward nuance and careful treatment of characters
Lulz, what nuance? Turning Thor into a clown is a "careful treatment"? >Turning one of their very few actually complex characters into a campy Saturday Morning cartoon villain was a big "frick you" to audiences.
There's nothing complex about Dr Strange, he's just another sardonic Marvel character.
I think some people might have deluded themselves into expecting le crazy and wacky cameos of characters from Pre-MCU movies, with No Way Home having just released. Looks like they're doing the same shit with the upcoming Deadpool movie. That said, I can't blame them too much when the movie is called "Multiverse of Madness" and there's like 3 universes
And on an unrelated note, even for the people who actually "did their homework" and watched Wandavision, there's little reward/payoff in Multiverse of Madness. In fact, I think watching Wandavision makes MoM worse; not even the MoM writers watched it. Wanda went full-on murder-psycho way too quickly
People retroactively started disliking TFA because TLJ ruined their fan theories and they got butthurt about Disney, despite TLJ being a much better movie than TFA.
There was a lot of interesting things about the first instalment of the new trilogy. It had a nice atmosphere, design style was close to the original starwars, lots of reference to past skywalker saga, luke (in the end), kylo, lea, giving it a feel that it was an extension of the saga.
There where also some bad things, and some things which was ambiguous at the time (where is this heading? how does this particular thing tie into the overall story? e.g. Knights of Ren) which only later in the 2. and 3. was revealed to be awful (it headed nowhere, it was meaningless, etc.).
So yeah, TLJ made TFA worse, because a lot of what was build was pointless, like your grandpa starting a story about his childhood and then loose track halfway through the story and end up talking about the weather last week..
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>the best, most well acted star wars movie made TFA worse
The fandom deserves nothing
I've thought this exact thing for quite some time and you put it perfectly. I'm seeing this happen in other major companies in the US (fast food for example) making the same mistake. Board members and execs need to think less about quarterly profits and getting shareholders profit, term to term and think bigger picture. Brand retention is most important of all and doing damage to the brand can poison the well, doing lethal damage to a company. Even if marvel started churning out gold, like you say, it would take time to restore confidence in the brand again. Most organizations don't have Disney money and theme parks that print cash to buffer against massive losses. Maybe this affords Disney enough time to right the course, but for most, making blunders that result in the level of brand damage that Disney has made recently would be a killer.
>search for the most intelligent Marvel character >her show is very childish
I want to see her appear in something more mature. Maybe pair her up with some other character.
marvel was more or less dead after endgame. all those tv shows were a waste of time and no one was fricking interested in watching them and the movies all just became social commentary instead. Good riddance
The movies were already social commentary you dipshit. You just hadn't noticed it yet because your brain hadn't been rotted by years of right-wing Youtube channels telling you what to think.
Marvel movies are somehow reenacting the exact same beloved stories followed by fatal mistakes that turned Marvel Comics from a globally renowned titan to a bankrupt irrelevance and forced them to sell off their movie rights in the first place
Three movies and two shows a year is still too fricking much. One movie every couple of years and one show a year is more than any franchise could've hoped for before DEI Hellworld.
The only time they had more than 3 movies in a year was in 2021 >Black Widow >Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings >Eternals >Spider-Man: No Way Home
The only movie that year who did really well was Spoder-Man of course
The 3 other movies were shit
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And Guardians 3 was the only Disney movie that made money last year. When Disney making 3 capeshits a year was when the oversaturation became obvious and that was before Disney+.
Iger is such a bullshitter who says things that sound like news but they aren't. 2021 is the only year there were 4 MCU mvoies. every year up til now it's been 2-3. A couple of weeks back he made the big announcement that he wasn't making ant man 4 or something which wasn't on the slate anyway.
>soulless products
That's the point.
These studios are saturated with petulant degenerate children who want to destroy any venue dominated by straight men. Having tantrums is more important to these studios than making a profit.
Even Scarlett Johansson can't save soulless dialogue and pointless fight scenes.
>no characters for men to go literally me about (maybe Spider Man but Tom Holland is a gay) >no gigachads left for women to flick the bean to
Marvel is over
>no more than 3 movies and 2 shows
How the frick do they still not understand that this is still too fricking much? Marvel jumped the shark after the old actors retired/were swapped out and instead of trying to cultivate a new set of stars they just try to shove it down everyone's throat with the predictable result of rejection.
Capeshit, COVID and streaming killed cinema. For a while, people only wanted to see the Marvel event movies.People don't want to see mid-budget movies like Northman.Not even movies based on stars are safe.Fall Guy failed badly and the same will happen with the new monkey movie.
Very few people in the industry are willing to accept the damage that Marvel has done to cinema as an art and as a medium of entertainment.
>Capeshit, COVID and streaming killed cinema.
Streaming killed it above all else. Even being a box office bomb, it was still the most streamed thing online for a while.
I haven't seen it but I've streamed my movies for a while so I wouldn't be surprised if that plays a role. These last few years just showed to me that there's nothing worth seeing on the big screen. Top Gun was a rare exception and I wanted to see Godzilla -1 but it didn't even show in my country.
You had to watch 2 different streaming shows just to know who 2 of the 3 leads even are, so it makes sense people would've seen it, thought "oh ill just wait". It didn't look particularly exciting or interesting enough to warrant a theatrical release anyway.
>and the same will happen with the new monkey movie.
It feels like Disney isn't even trying to market it. Any time they have a new film coming out there should be a banner at the top of Disney+ taking you to other films in the franchise or showing a little featurerette for the new film. They don't take advantage of all the tools they have
The shared universe is so fricking tiresome. They keep wanting the status quo of reality that it conflicts heavily with their world. So much tech and shit has advanced in the MCU, yet they still want us to believe that everyone is living their life like our normality.
The tv shows killed it. One movie now and again is fine - I'll watch a Captain Marvel to get ready for an Endgame - but I'm not watching 6-10 hours of some character I don't give a frick about just on the off-chance that they might be relevant in a future product, especially since they've already set a precedent of most of these shows not going anywhere.
Only Kingdom Hearts can get away with spreading its storyline out over multiple low budget spinoffs. And that’s because the fans are a bunch of autists who will play a 30 hour handheld game to meet a character who will become a big del in the main series. Marvel normies don’t want homework like that.
When it was building up to something, then yeah. Right now, they're just meandering all over the place without any coherent vision, so it's a chore if they build on each other.
And they don't even build on each other. Yeah, characters from the other movies show up sometimes, but anything that happened in the previous movies are just ignored. Like, there's still that giant eternal whatever just sitting in the middle of the ocean that can be seen from space and no one even mentions it ever.
>They should do away with the TV shows though. No one is watching them any more.
even if they had people watching them, they don't really have a means of making any direct money off of them anyways, so what's even the fricking point? keeping people "engaged" on the platform? they can just add in a bunch of existing shows they own for basically nothing and have the same effect
most they've done is 3 movies, 3 shows, 2 tv specials and 1 animated short series in 2022
so the only change is they're pumping out fewer shitty TV shows
If Deadpool & Wolverine isn't a monster hit then Marvel will be looking bad going into next years surefire flops. Will their reputation be able to weather the storm?
Three Marvel movies and two shows per year is still a lot. I've only watched a few total and god what a burnout. The Dark Knight is one of the best among them, arguably the best, and it's still like a 6.5-7/10. This is like animetards and isekai.
They could release a film every month made by fans adapting the worst eu stories and they would make 3b each because fans want it. No one wants to see this trash made by histrionic gay yentas and Blacks who attack fans for complaining and will continue to lose billions until they’re sold off
Hmm...perhaps it's actually a right-wing culture war stirring neo-liberal gaslight? Amazing coincidence it started after Occupy Wall Street. The woke identity politics strangely doesn't mention class representation.
No ones talking about the 1% anymore, everyone's arguing about trannies and women and blacks.
funny how people tend to forget how captain marvel was initially marketed as a do no wrong girlboss that don't need no man and the viral marketing around belittling men the very consumers you depend on
and you shills still don't seem to get that and try to deflect to le chud or fatigue or whatever bullshit talking point you can come up with, instead of fessing up to the subversive commie agenda that's really behind this demoralizing humiliation ritual aimed at belittling men
>Only three movies and two shows per year >Phase 1 and 2, they were releasing 2 movies per year from 2010 to 2016 >Phase 3 to 5, they were releasing 3 movies per year from 2016 to 2023 >2025 already has 4 movies slated to release.
Does Iger even know what the frick is going on at his own company?
>Three movies a year
isn't that what they were already doing? also lol at iger's delusion -- nobody cares about capeshit anymore and unless they radically lower the budgets of these films they are going to keep hemorrhaging money.
Iger is going for the reach around tactic where he releases nostalgia bait only now,so the neckbeards can go online and say how "Marvel is back!""The Woke shit lost!""This is way better than those woman films!"
While still watching the same propaganda in slow motion all over again.
More like cinema in general. Even decent movies like Godzilla Minus One made under 200 million. Yes, the budget was much smaller but that still means not many people went to see it.
It's baffling that they have failed to put out another Avengers movie (or something close to it like Civil War) in almost five years, and it is slated to be another 2 years until Avengers 5.
What a blunder.
Absolutely. Eternals would have worked much better as a series. Its crazy that Obi-Wan got 6 episodes when it should have been a movie, and Eternals was movie when it should have been a series. Loki is tough, I think it worked as a series but should have been 6-8 solid episodes instead of 12 weaker ones.
how about 3 movies and zero shows?
the shows fricking suck. I'm not a big MCU fan but before the shows they at least had some entertaining stuff.
ever since the disney+ shows started the entire MCU has had one single fun movie, Guardians 3. everything else has been awful
Moon Knight could've been much better if they stuck closer to the comics but the basic premise and the stuff that they did copy was enough to earn it some credit among normies.
How about one movie and zero shows per year? That's how it used to be. People can't keep up with all this shit.
The movies specifically account for the fact that most people aren't watching the shows. Nothing that happens in the shows is of any consequence so the movies basically just ignore them and do their own thing. Not sure how Disney managed to make people feel like they're obligated to watch everything in order to understand it all, because you really aren't.
>It looks desperate.
Reynolds loves to make these movies, Disney owns the property now, this was always going to happen. He literally dragged Fox into making the first two (which were Fox's biggest cape successes) and he was always going to wheedle Disney into a third film. And he's the one who pulled Jacked-man into it.
it's not the mentally ill showrunners and mentally ill leftist narratives being shoved down people's throats, it's people just tired of the genre we subverted because we hate comics and men in general
anything to keep your jobs and commie subversion going to the next thing you can ruin
take no responsibility and deflect all criticism back to the consumers you burnt all good will with
This is LITERALLY what/how they think. There is absolutely zero introspective ability amongst left-wing types. EVERYTHING is something else's or someone else's fault, because their ideas are the pinnacle of perfection to the level of godhood that it couldn't possible be something wrong with that
>Bob Iger says they will continue to do the same thing they've been doing and failing at since Endgame
Is Disney actually fricking stupid? They've been releasing two shows and three movies every year. Ideally it would be 1-2 movies and 1 show show with more episodes than 8. Everyone keeps talking about how much they like the shows, why not even just make marvel a Disney+ streaming exclusive franchise at this point?
Disney is in a death spiral. Even if their new shows knock it all out of the park (I don't believe it), then they still have to worry about not producing enough content for their revenue streams like Disney+ where they need a constant injection of content in order to get people to buy it.
And if they have a good show, it will become shit as they try to introduce the characters from the shit shows into its universe, and then it just brings down the entire show.
How the frick are people not tired of superhero movies yet? I watched first ironman and the dark knight trilogy and that was enough capeshit for one lifetime, personally
Superhero films have been the most popular genre for 15 years. People have grown up on them. To these people, superhero films are the film industry.
>For 15 years
And the fatigue of capeshit shows because everything after purple nugget man movie has been trash both commercially and with critics.
I didn't care for GotG3 and was depressed to see people being like "Finally, a good MCU film!", but I'm not going to pretend it wasn't both critically and commercially successful. I do think we're fricked if a film like that is enough to satisfy people, but that's just how the world is.
They are.
But is not about supers, is the whole "action comedy/quippy" genre being oversaturated and killed by marvel.
See the "unrelated" bombs like D&D and fall guy, all the same thing.
uhhhhh but marvel movies have been all vastly different genres like winter soldier was a political fiction thriller!
You people are fricking moronic
Quippy fun fast shit with good writing and good characters and good actors is the best and the best from the mcu proved it
It's just everything sucks now
infinity war was so fricking good and the first iron man was almost as good which says so much
They could make more shit and have Toby Maguire come back and have a true secret war with deadpool and old cast from the xmen n all that or something and everyone would love it but the people all in charge are all women and poopskins so it just all sucks and everything is just fricked
They tried to make a whole new saga with that kang character but Black folk are gonna nig and he just couldn't help himself so he raped or beat someone irl or whatever it was so now that is all fricking scrapped and all those movies don't matter and now basically none of it does
So basically.. frick women, frick Black folk, and frick israelites. Marvel has so much potential and the slop we used to get proves it and people should be mad at that and not happy that it's all over now
>what are the next generation of kids
never go full incel.
these little people are a brand new audience every year, amazing huh?
Kids don’t care about capeshit. It’s primary consumers are millennials
>How the frick are people not tired of superhero movies yet?
They are, The Marvels is the biggest financial flop in the history of Hollywood. It lost twice as much money as The Flash, another massive capeshit bomb released the same year. The nightmare is almost over
>The Marvels is the biggest financial flop in the history of Hollywood
Not even in the top 10
Unadjusted for inflation, it absolutely is
John Carter and the 13th Warrior were kino
13th Warrior yes. John Carter no. But there are some films which bombed that are kino indeed.
You should sort this list by "adjusted for inflation" before posting it next time. What you're saying is true but I had to manually check.
not wanting to defend them but ~~*Hollywood*~~ accounting is definitely at work here.
>$201 million at the box office (disney takes half of that)
>$275 million budget (doesn't include marketing)
Not only it's the biggest flop of all time it also lost more money than the two or three next flops combined.
The Flash only lost $155M and isn't even in the Top 20 biggest bombs of all time
After being told by the media for months it was the biggest of all time, that's quite dishonest
When will people admit that movie got shafted for no reason?
Similar. I saw that Thor movie where Cate Blanchett is all hot as frick, which was the only enjoyable thing about that movie. Also saw a Guardian of the Galaxy movie that I absolutely cannot recall what it was about if my life depended on it. That was enough Marvel for me. And I'm not some elitist frick. Those movies were just terrible.
If I had a nickel for every time I saw a beaner in an Avengers t-shirt I'd be a very wealthy man.
well in the 90s the rage were tornado, volvano and asteroid movies and people tought they would stay forever, its gonna happen eventually
If you're a wage slave, like myself, a good movie, book, sports event, can be a nice reprieve from them monotonous drudgery of our daily lives.
I repair flat tires at the auto shop for a living.
When I walk home in my wagie unifrom I'm as close to a ghost as a human can get without dying. It's kind of nice though, be invisible.
Did you ever get tired of a movie genre you like? There's like 5 or 6 superhero movies a year, so roughly one every two months. That's nothing compared to most other genres. If you watch at least 100 movies a year, and you see every superhero movie, that's only about 5%.
What is this dipshit trying to say?
I would absolutely be cringing if this was 1950 and there were 2 singing cowboy westerns a month being released. I'm also glad my house doesn't have lead paint, doesn't mean I'm not going to get upset if I find mold.
>uniquely affronted
I'm *not* uniquely affronted by Superhero films, I didn't give a shit when it was 2010 and I didn't need to hear about them and see ads for them literally everywhere I went.
homosexuals think being pedantic makes them intelligent. nobody gives a frick that there were obviously way too many westerns being released in the 50s, and it also doesn't make it so that installment #76 in comic book movie universe A isn't the same tired, played-out shit as the previous 10 films
The point is that there aren't really that many superhero movies coming out. Whats out of proportion is the attention/discussion they get.
>I didn't need to hear about them and see ads for them literally everywhere I went.
Why does that bother you so much? You can just not watch the movies.
Western as a genre didn't mean all westerns were the same. Every superhero movie now is so formulaic and deals with stupid current modern day politics.
Westerns were popular because they were an escape from reality, while still being close enough to be in living memory and familiar. Imagine if every western they made just dealt with the modern day politics of the 50s. Would get stupid real quick.
Okay, so it's not capeshit in itself that's the problem, it's the politics. That applies to most genres nowadays.
people aren't tired of superhero movies, they are tired of poorly written media that force minorities and women to belittle men
you know this
Meanwhile in reality, Barbie made a billion dollars. Belittling men is quite profitable. Superhero movies are not. What's your next cope?
I thought Barbie was all about empowering men, guess I broke your brain with that one huh, contrarian commie Black personhomosexual
It's about who you're selling to. A wig store makes a killing in the ghetto but not in a suburban neighborhood. Belittling men sold in Barbie because it's a movie for women. It won't work in movies that have traditionally targeted males 18-35
People obviously are but these corpos have nothing to replace it with.
Someone already indirectly pointed this out, but superhero movies are a lot like westerns. There was a decade or two where it felt like that was literally all they made. Then people got tired of them and they stopped making money, so westerns stopped being made so much. It takes a painfully long time for people to get bored but we're on the tail end of it now.
Someday there's going to be a superhero movies channel on TV for old millennials to watch every superhero movie ever made, much like old boomers watch westerns on Grit and MeTV.
>How the frick are people not tired of superhero movies yet?
They are.
again?
>three movies and two series per 12 months is "dying"
How are people in here this moronic.
RAVIOLI, RAVIOLI
GIVE ME THE SLOP-IOLI
PUBLICLY SHAME THE CAPESHIT CONSOOMERS
>Forced to limit movies over saturation
>Still have to release 3 flops a year becuase the wheels have to keep moving
Lol
Lmao
A couple years ago, Iger's plans were "24 movies a year and no less than 50 tv series" by 2030
They can make as much shows as they want, doesn't mean anyone gonna watch them
They're playing the long game. Their trash will haunt streaming catalogs for decades. They're hoping kids will grow up on it and like it regardless of it being shit. Kids are moronic, that works. Look at the love from zoomers for the newer Lucas Star Wars movies. It does work.
I've been saying for a while that this won't happen - garbage like The Hobbit is now a decade old and Zoomers nostalgic for it are nowhere to be found
At some point you'll probably have to acknowledge the prequels were flawed but had merit, like their underrated close peer Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
You might be right. Maybe things are so bad that even kids aren't munching them down the same. I had good taste as a kid (uppity knowitall prick), and would not have stood for most this. I hated most everything, as was proper.
>At some point you'll probably have to acknowledge the prequels were flawed but had merit,
They really don't though. The casting is terrible throughout. Just the worst damn casting for almost every character, small and large. The lighting, the direction, the writing - all shit.
They were just trash. They're not hidden gems. They were trash.
>garbage like The Hobbit is now a decade old and Zoomers nostalgic for it are nowhere to be found
That's not true, I see threads on Cinemaphile praising The Hobbit all the time. It's even the same situation as Star Wars where new content (the Amazon show) makes contrarians go back and like the old content.
So if you've been saying that for a while you've been wrong for a while.
People only praise The Hobbit for having an all white and mostly male cast. I never see tweets or YT video essays gushing the films.
The prequels despite their many flaws do feel like Star Wars.
The Abrams sequels are full of memberberries and ape the OT slavishly, and yet ironically don't feel like Star Wars at all.
Force Awakens is 80% a straight copy of a New Hope
It covers the plot points, but it doesn't feel like Star Wars.
so is the phantom menace
To much shit leads to shit quality and no tard wrangling on moronic writers and directors
Like that taika whatitti guy
but that's more than we've been getting since Infinity War
still too frequent. make it one movie every two years and people will care again
>capeshit is finished for the 47th time
ok, I believe you.
>Marvel will release no more than three movies and two shows per year, Bob Iger says
Is that a promise? Still seems too many.
>Stocks are bombing
>instead of trying to win back the old fans you alienated and lost with DEI Trash, double down on producing Larry Fink wokeslop.
Disney is fricking moronic. They had a good thing and ruined it for no reason other than impressing some wealthy israelites at a bank.
but why the limit? if they were worried about people burning out with too much content, why not just make even more than ever just full blast everything so much that people come around to liking it again?
has that ever worked?
I remember reading phase 1 had 12 hours of content before the big payoff movie and phase 5 or whatever they are on now has like 70 with no payoff
even if you enjoy these things it has to feel like work after a while, you have to know what happened in every previous thing or you won't know what's going on
Is there really anything going on though? It's not like you can't get the gist of the story just by watching the characters interact. Sometimes a character gets a cool new scar or outfit or whatever but that's about it
The dirty secret of the MCU is that you really don't need to watch any of it to "understand it" there's no fricking deep cuts or hidden lore that has any impact on the plot of the event movies whatsoever
Pic related, Agent Coulson came back to life and fought mutants and aliens for six seasons and turned into a robot and died again and it's all totally canon trust me bro but nobody will ever know or care, including his dear friends that wept for him in The Avengers
>The dirty secret of the MCU is that you really don't need to watch any of it to "understand it" there's no fricking deep cuts or hidden lore that has any impact on the plot of the event movies whatsoever
Is that really a secret? I mean, out of all the Avengers movies for example, I've only watched the last two (Infinity War, Endgame). I never once felt like I cared about the characters or that the characters had interesting relationships with one another. I can't remember any callbacks to the previous movies (that I never saw). I know one movie is all about Ultron but I don't think they ever mention Ultron ever again.
The one exception I think is Guardians of the Galaxy. Those actually felt like real films with actual characters. Haven't seen the third one yet.
>Is that really a secret?
Captain Marvel and Black Panther each pulled a billion dollars on "The final battle won't make sense unless you watch them first!"
I was trolled into watching Captain Marvel but refused to watch Black Panther because I'm that racist and to my chagrin I learned that Captain Marvel contributed virtually nothing to Endgame beyond "Hey there's a really strong flying chick that Samuel L. Jackson knows" and my complete ignorance of Black Panther did nothing to prevent me from grasping "Oh, the African warrior dudes are there to help them"
looks like a logo for xcom
Before Endgame:
>Marvel made 21 movies, 1 of them flopped (sorry Hulk)
After Endgame:
>Marvel made 11 movies, 5 of them flopped
The ratio is absolutely fricked now
Also, the absolute fire alarm should be over the fact that Captain Marvel made $1.1 billion and Captain Marvel 2 made $200 million
It's over
It's a smart move, most marvel movies doesn't get any attention on social media, there are hardly any threads on Cinemaphile about the newest marvel movie, it doesn't create discussion (bad or good). When they over saturate whatever market there may be, the viral (natural) marketing goes down.
To maximize the potential profit from whatever shit they spit out, they should produce less so people doesn't loose interest.
This is the real problem, the deterioration of a brand. A bad movie within a "world" isn't reflected in the box office, it's the subsequent movies that tend to suffer.
e.g. I went to the movie theatre to see Star Wars TFA, I like starwars so i went, i did not go to the theater to see TLJ, i saw it from home using a free movie site, i have not seen TROS.
As a customer, it was the lower than expected quality of TFA that made me not spend money in the theatre the next time, it was TFA + TLJ that caused a lack of desire to see TROS.
There is a delay of dissatisfied customers, it only shows up the "next time", and continuous disappointments leaves the consumer to associate the brand with poor quality entertainment; the next couple of Marvel movies could be great, but a lot of people won't go to the movie theatre bc it is Marvel and expect it to not be good or even decent entertainment.
>the next couple of Marvel movies could be great
doubt
MoM, as evidenced by it's box office dropping off a cliff after word of mouth started spreading, is the movie where audiences said to themselves "I'm done with this Marvel stuff". The campy tone and terrible writing showed that Marvel had lost their touch (the magic ingredient of phase 3 was that they leaned toward nuance and careful treatment of characters, after Endgame the breaks came off and dumb creative decisions were made).
Turning one of their very few actually complex characters into a campy Saturday Morning cartoon villain was a big "frick you" to audiences.
>The campy tone and terrible writing
Literally every Marvel movie.
>the magic ingredient of phase 3 was that they leaned toward nuance and careful treatment of characters
Lulz, what nuance? Turning Thor into a clown is a "careful treatment"?
>Turning one of their very few actually complex characters into a campy Saturday Morning cartoon villain was a big "frick you" to audiences.
There's nothing complex about Dr Strange, he's just another sardonic Marvel character.
I think some people might have deluded themselves into expecting le crazy and wacky cameos of characters from Pre-MCU movies, with No Way Home having just released. Looks like they're doing the same shit with the upcoming Deadpool movie. That said, I can't blame them too much when the movie is called "Multiverse of Madness" and there's like 3 universes
And on an unrelated note, even for the people who actually "did their homework" and watched Wandavision, there's little reward/payoff in Multiverse of Madness. In fact, I think watching Wandavision makes MoM worse; not even the MoM writers watched it. Wanda went full-on murder-psycho way too quickly
TFA was extremely well received. You guys are doing revisionism.
At the time yeah, then the memberberries wore off and then everyone realized it wasn't that good.
People retroactively started disliking TFA because TLJ ruined their fan theories and they got butthurt about Disney, despite TLJ being a much better movie than TFA.
There was a lot of interesting things about the first instalment of the new trilogy. It had a nice atmosphere, design style was close to the original starwars, lots of reference to past skywalker saga, luke (in the end), kylo, lea, giving it a feel that it was an extension of the saga.
There where also some bad things, and some things which was ambiguous at the time (where is this heading? how does this particular thing tie into the overall story? e.g. Knights of Ren) which only later in the 2. and 3. was revealed to be awful (it headed nowhere, it was meaningless, etc.).
So yeah, TLJ made TFA worse, because a lot of what was build was pointless, like your grandpa starting a story about his childhood and then loose track halfway through the story and end up talking about the weather last week..
>the best, most well acted star wars movie made TFA worse
The fandom deserves nothing
TLJ is unironically a litmus test for trannies
I've thought this exact thing for quite some time and you put it perfectly. I'm seeing this happen in other major companies in the US (fast food for example) making the same mistake. Board members and execs need to think less about quarterly profits and getting shareholders profit, term to term and think bigger picture. Brand retention is most important of all and doing damage to the brand can poison the well, doing lethal damage to a company. Even if marvel started churning out gold, like you say, it would take time to restore confidence in the brand again. Most organizations don't have Disney money and theme parks that print cash to buffer against massive losses. Maybe this affords Disney enough time to right the course, but for most, making blunders that result in the level of brand damage that Disney has made recently would be a killer.
>search for the most intelligent Marvel character
>her show is very childish
I want to see her appear in something more mature. Maybe pair her up with some other character.
She needed all that for a lightbulb?
>Smartest homie in the marvel universe can make a lamp
I'm so sick of pretending blacks belong in white society
>Disney will stop oversaturating the market with Marvel capeshit by..... oversaturating the market with Marvel capeshit
Um, okay?
marvel was more or less dead after endgame. all those tv shows were a waste of time and no one was fricking interested in watching them and the movies all just became social commentary instead. Good riddance
The movies were already social commentary you dipshit. You just hadn't noticed it yet because your brain hadn't been rotted by years of right-wing Youtube channels telling you what to think.
Boo, do one movie every three years!
Who gave you this stupid fricking advice? The dumbshit fans who refused to acknowledge that marvel was in trouble until it was unignorable?
Marvel movies are somehow reenacting the exact same beloved stories followed by fatal mistakes that turned Marvel Comics from a globally renowned titan to a bankrupt irrelevance and forced them to sell off their movie rights in the first place
It's actually incredible to contemplate
How about ZERO films and ZERO shows and you all are bathed in acid, Kevin?
>we’re going to keep doing the exact same thing with the exact same people except we’ll only focus on 2-3 out puts a year instead of 6
Three movies and two shows a year is still too fricking much. One movie every couple of years and one show a year is more than any franchise could've hoped for before DEI Hellworld.
The only time they had more than 3 movies in a year was in 2021
>Black Widow
>Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
>Eternals
>Spider-Man: No Way Home
The only movie that year who did really well was Spoder-Man of course
The 3 other movies were shit
This and Checked
And Guardians 3 was the only Disney movie that made money last year. When Disney making 3 capeshits a year was when the oversaturation became obvious and that was before Disney+.
there were also 5 TV shows that year.
Iger is such a bullshitter who says things that sound like news but they aren't. 2021 is the only year there were 4 MCU mvoies. every year up til now it's been 2-3. A couple of weeks back he made the big announcement that he wasn't making ant man 4 or something which wasn't on the slate anyway.
Surely black captain America won’t flop!
Still too many, they don't feel special.
multiple marvel movies and multiple marvel shows every year is still dogshit, they are all soulless products with no value
>soulless products
That's the point.
These studios are saturated with petulant degenerate children who want to destroy any venue dominated by straight men. Having tantrums is more important to these studios than making a profit.
Even Scarlett Johansson can't save soulless dialogue and pointless fight scenes.
i've literally never seen any of these gay movies AMA
Still too much
Im sure the new Rei trilogy will do well!
>star wars gay crying
>probably a prequelgay
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I think Brie looks very cute in this picture.
head like a jar
Yeah, a cum jar
Don't limit Brie, Bob.
>no characters for men to go literally me about (maybe Spider Man but Tom Holland is a gay)
>no gigachads left for women to flick the bean to
Marvel is over
>no more than 3 movies and 2 shows
How the frick do they still not understand that this is still too fricking much? Marvel jumped the shark after the old actors retired/were swapped out and instead of trying to cultivate a new set of stars they just try to shove it down everyone's throat with the predictable result of rejection.
Capeshit, COVID and streaming killed cinema. For a while, people only wanted to see the Marvel event movies.People don't want to see mid-budget movies like Northman.Not even movies based on stars are safe.Fall Guy failed badly and the same will happen with the new monkey movie.
Very few people in the industry are willing to accept the damage that Marvel has done to cinema as an art and as a medium of entertainment.
>Capeshit, COVID and streaming killed cinema.
Streaming killed it above all else. Even being a box office bomb, it was still the most streamed thing online for a while.
I haven't seen it but I've streamed my movies for a while so I wouldn't be surprised if that plays a role. These last few years just showed to me that there's nothing worth seeing on the big screen. Top Gun was a rare exception and I wanted to see Godzilla -1 but it didn't even show in my country.
You had to watch 2 different streaming shows just to know who 2 of the 3 leads even are, so it makes sense people would've seen it, thought "oh ill just wait". It didn't look particularly exciting or interesting enough to warrant a theatrical release anyway.
I guarantee you all of those views are from Cinemaphile, either to make memes or hatefap to brie
Quarterpounder got the lotion
Nielsen just make numbers up when it comes to streaming though, Disney probably paid them to say it was a hit on disney+ so Iger could save face
Horror movies are hella profitable. Stop making wokeslop agenda trash and people will buy tickets.
>and the same will happen with the new monkey movie.
It feels like Disney isn't even trying to market it. Any time they have a new film coming out there should be a banner at the top of Disney+ taking you to other films in the franchise or showing a little featurerette for the new film. They don't take advantage of all the tools they have
>ONLY 3 movies per year
>ONLY 2 shows per year
This is what you call a limitation?
It's extreme shrinkage and collapse in comparison to what they had before and what they planned. Downsizing this rapidly is a failure.
>Shrink your way to success!
Has never worked in the history of the world. How can they be THIS moronic?
The shared universe is so fricking tiresome. They keep wanting the status quo of reality that it conflicts heavily with their world. So much tech and shit has advanced in the MCU, yet they still want us to believe that everyone is living their life like our normality.
Same Universe where this futuristic shit was known by Earthlings in World War II
The tv shows killed it. One movie now and again is fine - I'll watch a Captain Marvel to get ready for an Endgame - but I'm not watching 6-10 hours of some character I don't give a frick about just on the off-chance that they might be relevant in a future product, especially since they've already set a precedent of most of these shows not going anywhere.
Only Kingdom Hearts can get away with spreading its storyline out over multiple low budget spinoffs. And that’s because the fans are a bunch of autists who will play a 30 hour handheld game to meet a character who will become a big del in the main series. Marvel normies don’t want homework like that.
3 movies a year is their standard slop schedule, it's not a reduction.
They should do away with the TV shows though. No one is watching them any more.
When it was building up to something, then yeah. Right now, they're just meandering all over the place without any coherent vision, so it's a chore if they build on each other.
And they don't even build on each other. Yeah, characters from the other movies show up sometimes, but anything that happened in the previous movies are just ignored. Like, there's still that giant eternal whatever just sitting in the middle of the ocean that can be seen from space and no one even mentions it ever.
>They should do away with the TV shows though. No one is watching them any more.
even if they had people watching them, they don't really have a means of making any direct money off of them anyways, so what's even the fricking point? keeping people "engaged" on the platform? they can just add in a bunch of existing shows they own for basically nothing and have the same effect
How much black girl magic will it take to save Marvel?
that's a lot of movies and tv shows still
did they ever do more than that?
most they've done is 3 movies, 3 shows, 2 tv specials and 1 animated short series in 2022
so the only change is they're pumping out fewer shitty TV shows
>no more than 3 movies a year
But this is their normal schedule?
3 movies a year is exactly what they're doing now.
That’s the same thing they were already doing
If Deadpool & Wolverine isn't a monster hit then Marvel will be looking bad going into next years surefire flops. Will their reputation be able to weather the storm?
That will be the only billion dollar film this year. It looks like shit though
Capeshit is ending but people aren't going back to cinemas for original films.
> 'The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters.' - Antonio Gramsci
Yeah I think the golden age for move theaters is past us
Three Marvel movies and two shows per year is still a lot. I've only watched a few total and god what a burnout. The Dark Knight is one of the best among them, arguably the best, and it's still like a 6.5-7/10. This is like animetards and isekai.
They could release a film every month made by fans adapting the worst eu stories and they would make 3b each because fans want it. No one wants to see this trash made by histrionic gay yentas and Blacks who attack fans for complaining and will continue to lose billions until they’re sold off
Shut the frick up you deluded /misc/tard LMFAO
They'd be broke without Blackrock marxist cultural revolution woke funds
> Mega-Rich Marxist Hedgefund.
Doubt.
Hmm...perhaps it's actually a right-wing culture war stirring neo-liberal gaslight? Amazing coincidence it started after Occupy Wall Street. The woke identity politics strangely doesn't mention class representation.
No ones talking about the 1% anymore, everyone's arguing about trannies and women and blacks.
It's worked perfectly.
funny how people tend to forget how captain marvel was initially marketed as a do no wrong girlboss that don't need no man and the viral marketing around belittling men the very consumers you depend on
and you shills still don't seem to get that and try to deflect to le chud or fatigue or whatever bullshit talking point you can come up with, instead of fessing up to the subversive commie agenda that's really behind this demoralizing humiliation ritual aimed at belittling men
It's also funny the stupid feminist b***h they cast as Captain Marvel immediately tanked her career by doing car commercials.
Hey Jeremy, how’s your YouTube channel going?
homosexual
Chud
Thanks
now kiss
His lips taste like Brie Larson
all the more reason t b h
>Only three movies and two shows per year
>Phase 1 and 2, they were releasing 2 movies per year from 2010 to 2016
>Phase 3 to 5, they were releasing 3 movies per year from 2016 to 2023
>2025 already has 4 movies slated to release.
Does Iger even know what the frick is going on at his own company?
the worst star wars movie has better moviemaking, scoring, effects, sets etc etc than all these marvelfricks
>the worst bayformers movie has better moviemaking, scoring, effects, sets etc etc than all these marvelfricks
FTFY
>Three movies a year
isn't that what they were already doing? also lol at iger's delusion -- nobody cares about capeshit anymore and unless they radically lower the budgets of these films they are going to keep hemorrhaging money.
>no more than three movies
they rarely did that before anyway
still shit
2017, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023.
Iger is going for the reach around tactic where he releases nostalgia bait only now,so the neckbeards can go online and say how "Marvel is back!""The Woke shit lost!""This is way better than those woman films!"
While still watching the same propaganda in slow motion all over again.
I don't even know which installments the latest one, Has the Wolverine/Deadpool already released????
If Deadpool 3 is good it'll probably hit 800m+
If it's shit like Thor4 it'll be probably 600m
I can't see either of the other 2 (Captain america & Thunderbolts) hitting 600m since they have no existing characters people care about
plus wtf is a phase even now, it used to end with a teamup movie which made sense, now its just some movies which dont advance the plot
Honestly the animated X-Men show has been better than all the movies in this phase which is surprising
Because they accidentally hired a based homosexual who (mostly) respects the source material
that's an understatement
M"She"U:
> Johannson fricked over and gone.
> Larson and Olsen probably not returning.
This still feels like more than they've released for the past 2~ years.
That's still three movies and two shows more than there's demand for. Keep going.
More like cinema in general. Even decent movies like Godzilla Minus One made under 200 million. Yes, the budget was much smaller but that still means not many people went to see it.
>Godzilla Minus One
Thats a subtitled film, anon, there's no way you're getting wide audiences to see it.
NOOOO I need more super hero schlock! I don't want to have to watch realistic movies with natural human interactions
>I don't want to have to watch realistic movies with natural human interactions
Yeah, why would I want that? That's just boring.
But they have NO TASTE LEVEL
That's too many
It's baffling that they have failed to put out another Avengers movie (or something close to it like Civil War) in almost five years, and it is slated to be another 2 years until Avengers 5.
What a blunder.
>Release movies with a narrow interested audience
>Movies unsurprisingly bomb
>"That just means we are releasing too much content"
They already were doing 3 movies a year. They shouldn't be doing MCU shows at all . Too expensive and it cheapens the brand.
Eternals should have been a series, to actually develop the dozen major characters.
Loki should have been 1 or 2 movies.
Absolutely. Eternals would have worked much better as a series. Its crazy that Obi-Wan got 6 episodes when it should have been a movie, and Eternals was movie when it should have been a series. Loki is tough, I think it worked as a series but should have been 6-8 solid episodes instead of 12 weaker ones.
how about 3 movies and zero shows?
the shows fricking suck. I'm not a big MCU fan but before the shows they at least had some entertaining stuff.
ever since the disney+ shows started the entire MCU has had one single fun movie, Guardians 3. everything else has been awful
I found Loki, Ms Marvel and Moon Knight and Wandavision entertaining as television series go.
Wandavision was fine but it was carried by Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany, without them it would be CW tier
Moon Knight could've been much better if they stuck closer to the comics but the basic premise and the stuff that they did copy was enough to earn it some credit among normies.
The movies specifically account for the fact that most people aren't watching the shows. Nothing that happens in the shows is of any consequence so the movies basically just ignore them and do their own thing. Not sure how Disney managed to make people feel like they're obligated to watch everything in order to understand it all, because you really aren't.
How about one thing that's good
Deadpool and Wolverine is up next, and has a lot of promise.
I hate both those meme shits that ruined the real x-men
>and has a lot of promise.
It looks desperate. All I got from the trailer is they say Frick a lot because this is a Marvel movie for "adults"
I dont think comes across nearly as desperate as Mufasa does.
>It looks desperate.
Reynolds loves to make these movies, Disney owns the property now, this was always going to happen. He literally dragged Fox into making the first two (which were Fox's biggest cape successes) and he was always going to wheedle Disney into a third film. And he's the one who pulled Jacked-man into it.
How about one movie and zero shows per year? That's how it used to be. People can't keep up with all this shit.
Also:
>How about one movie and zero shows per year? That's how it used to be.
Wrong.
>instead it used staggered one movie in one year, two in the next, and one in the year after that
What a gotcha
it's not the mentally ill showrunners and mentally ill leftist narratives being shoved down people's throats, it's people just tired of the genre we subverted because we hate comics and men in general
anything to keep your jobs and commie subversion going to the next thing you can ruin
take no responsibility and deflect all criticism back to the consumers you burnt all good will with
This is LITERALLY what/how they think. There is absolutely zero introspective ability amongst left-wing types. EVERYTHING is something else's or someone else's fault, because their ideas are the pinnacle of perfection to the level of godhood that it couldn't possible be something wrong with that
you parasites are really something to behold
They already never released more than 3 movies in a year, though.
So he's not lying then.
>Bob Iger says they will continue to do the same thing they've been doing and failing at since Endgame
Is Disney actually fricking stupid? They've been releasing two shows and three movies every year. Ideally it would be 1-2 movies and 1 show show with more episodes than 8. Everyone keeps talking about how much they like the shows, why not even just make marvel a Disney+ streaming exclusive franchise at this point?
>Is Disney actually fricking stupid?
Incredibly, they're controlled by leftists.
It's too late.
Disney is in a death spiral. Even if their new shows knock it all out of the park (I don't believe it), then they still have to worry about not producing enough content for their revenue streams like Disney+ where they need a constant injection of content in order to get people to buy it.
And if they have a good show, it will become shit as they try to introduce the characters from the shit shows into its universe, and then it just brings down the entire show.
It's crazy that three movies and two shows a year is supposed to sound conservative
>its not the content we're making, but the frequency!
goddamnit this a level of stupid the world hasn't witnessed before
so three box office flops, and two streaming flops a year then instead of what ten box office flops a year?