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>The logo is on the screen! Looks like we're about to begin.
yippe
Ultimate line reveal?
>Editor Nick Lowe is out here, joking, "I'm a little bit tired, can I get some energy from you guys?" IT'S A TRICK TO GET PEOPLE YELLING, DON'T FALL FOR IT! (We fell for it.)
>"Are you all ready to meet some of the greatest creators in the world?" asks Nick. "AND we have a giveaway comic that's going to come around. When it comes around, only one per person. Uncle Ben is watching!"
ok Lowe
it's is his job to be hype man even if he not very good
>Who else is on the panel? Gerry Duggan, Collin Kelly, Jackson Lanzing, Sabir Pirzada, Zeb Wells, Sarah Brunstad, Jordan White, and Marvel editor-in-chief C.B. Cebulski, that's who. That's a packed line-up!
no Hickman? odd
Wtf? The only reason I was looking forward to this was to see what they're lining up for the new Ultimate line. I don't give a shit about Duggan's troony politics. Jesus Christ...
>We're starting with Gerry Duggan talking Fall of X. "Autumn is coming, and without spoiling too much, the mutants on Krakoa have enjoyed a really long winning streak, and I think it's safe to say that some of the winning is over."
X-Misery is back on the menu
>"Less than a week away, until this punches everybody in the gut," Jordan White says of X-Men: Hellfire Gala #1 this upcoming week. Duggan says that that and Iron Man #8 in the same week are a "crossover in a can." (Is that an Iron Man pun?)
>Fall of X "spans the X-Men books and Invincible Iron Man. The whole line is affected," Duggan says. "It will give Steve Rogers the reason to reform the Unity Squad." The full cast of Uncanny Avengers has not been revealed, he teases. Iron Man will have a new stealth armor as the result of Fall of X and Tony Stark's involvement.
But you only have like 5 issues of UA
>"It's the wedding of two people who can't stand each other," Gerry says of the wedding between Tony Stark and Emma Frost. "If you are repulsed by this, I promise you this: you will only want more come September."
Duggan probably thinks he will get another UA book in the new year
>X-Men #26 and Invincible Iron Man #10 are the wedding issues. Gerry jokes that the two will "descend into the new hell of marriage" together.
they also come with connecting covers
>X-Men #29 is the Doom's X-Men issue. "He was keeping it on the downlow," Gerry says about Doctor Doom having his own X-Men. The mutants in Latveria are "not ideologically aligned with the X-Men." The art comes from Joshua Cassara.
but why does he need an X-Men of his own?
Mutants are born all over the Earth. It makes sense that a few are born in Latveria and Doom would use that to his advantage.
>Jordan White points out that Ms. Marvel is on the cover of X-Men #29. "I think she's dead, though," Zeb Wells adds. White suggests everyone checks out Hellfire Gala #1 this week in case people are thinking the same thing.
[insert crickets.mp3 here]
>We're looking at the covers for Uncanny Avengers #2-4. "The Fenris twins are so, so awful, and they're really important," Gerry says. "It's really, really important, this book." Follows the fallout of the Hellfire Gala, and Gerry promises some crazy reveals before December. (What is happening in December...?!?)
Wonder if Wells is nervous for when he has to release whatever clown show he has instore for Spiderman in front of a large group of people.
Oh. Ms. Marvel is on the Unity Squad probably
>"There was a great teaser for what happens at the Hellfire Gala in this year's Free Comic Book Day issue," Jordan White says. "It sets up Uncanny Avengers."
Still a miniseries
>Now it's Collin Kelly and Jackson Lanzing talking about the new series of Guardians of the Galaxy. "Starting in Guardians #1, we introduced the idea of Grootfall, a mysterious and seemingly evil Groot... the Guardians are down to a thin squad," Jackson says. "We are now looking at the Guardians in their most desperate time." What is Grootfall? What happened to the rest of the team? That's in Guardians of the Galaxy #6.
>Jackson just talked about the "second half of our run" beginning in #7, with a cover featuring Wiccan and Hulkling... which means that we're not only getting new cast members, but apparently the new series is only 12 issues long? (Or, at least, Collin and Jackson are leaving after #12.)
oof
>We're seeing a cover reveal for Guardians #8, featuring the team... looking as if they're made out of wood. Huh.
tbf GOTG only lasting twelve issues is more of an issue with Marvel than the writers they don't have faith in anything Marvel cosmic at all
Cates only got 12 and Ewing was only supposed to have 12. Duggan double shipped and still only lasted a year.
I swear to God Bendis put the sheeny curse on the book
Marvel editorial has always hated Marvel cosmic
Cosmic always has the deck stacked against it for sure but it's been especially dire since Bendis. I mean I know movie sales don't translate to comics but you'd think somebody would have found a way to make the book hang on longer than a year at this point. And Bendis pretty much hated GOTG and only wanted to claim the longest run.
Cosmic has always been niche in terms of interest in comics and now that comic readers are smaller group than ever Editorial probably thinks the sales are not worth it for a full ongoing Cosmic book anymore
Why do you say that?
Dan Rosenberg has talked extensively about what an uphill battle it was to get Annihilation and then the Nova and Guardians books going
It's like how the main Deadpool book has trouble staying afloat ever since Duggan left.
and they have already teased Deadpool will get a new ongoing before they have even official said the Wong series is cancelled
>Cosmic Marvel
zzzzz
>he's still trying to make it happen
Just give it up you moronic Black person. People won't stop liking Annihilation and Silver Surfer and come read your shitty L.E.G.I.O.N. books.
Not him but I find cosmic stuff boring as shit too. Not just Marvel cosmic but DC cosmic as well and most of my least favorite X-Men stories are the cosmic ones that deal with shit like the Shi'ar. The only cosmic stuff I've ever liked is LoSH.
>Also announced as a mini, they're hoping that more pre-order it so that they can make it into an actual ongoing
Hopefully that doesn't happen and we can get a real Thunderbolts book again at some point.
Differebt anon, but I hate MODERN Cosmic.
It just feels bland and flavorless instead of having a sense of grandiosity/genuine pathos.
I'd rather suffer through Marvel Universe: The End again because at least Starlin is good at what I'm talking about.
>Collin and Jackson are also writing the new Thunderbolts seris, with art by Geraldo Borges. "Hopefully a lot of you have been reading our run on Captain America, and what we wanted to do is continue some of those threads," says Collin. "We're taking a lot of the [villain] energy that [Bucky] has had and taking on evil before it's started."
Also announced as a mini, they're hoping that more pre-order it so that they can make it into an actual ongoing
>Jackson likens Bucky's new status as being a mix of the Punisher attitude with the backing of an organization like SHIELD.
>"These are not the Avengers," Jackson says; the team won't hang out, the characters in the Mahmud Asrar promo art that was released are not all going to show up together.
>Collin and Jackson are writing 2023's Timeless one-shot issue, with art by Juann Cabal and a cover of Kael Ngu. "Welcome to the dark future of the Marvel Universe," says Jackson.
>There is one hero standing at the end of time is the Immortal Moon Knight... but he needs checking in his own right, which is where Luke Cage comes in, a Power Man charged by the power of Iron Fist and the Hulk alike. That's Timeless 2023.
oh
so their going to tease a new Moon Knight book in timeless then?
>Collin and Jackson are writing 2023's Timeless one-shot issue
Does it have anything to do with that Kang one-shot that teased Miracleman last year?
MiracleMan was teased in 2021. That's how slow this whole thing has been.
no probably not we don't even know when Dark age is going to start
You know, it's funny that this whole Timeless thing and the current Avengers run just sound like Aaron run, but with Marvel caring and promoting it.
Timeless worked the first two times because MacKay is a good writer (far better than Aaron) and managed to craft some cool Kang stories out of something that otherwise only existed to tease upcoming books (and the second time, set up his Avengers run). Kelly and Lanzing are mediocre writers so I suspect this won't be anywhere near as good.
>Kelly and Lanzing
Oh man, I didn't know they were the writers, now I'm 100% sure they will put some MCU synergy there, black Kang is coming probably.
yeah reading. the official solicit for the book does not endear to the one-shot
>In a devastating future borne from the choices of today, all of time and space is threatened by the ascension of an ancient evil. The MOON KNIGHT UNENDING has risen – a nightmare borne of StarkTech, the Eternal Machine, and the God of the Moon – and now all of Earth bows before his overwhelming power! But one man stands against Khonshu’s coming tide of chaos: POWER MAN, the Marvel Universe’s final living superhero. But who is Power Man – and how did he come to wield the unstable powers of the Sentry, the Hulk, and the Iron Fist? What dark, deeply personal conflict underpins this mind bending apocalypse? And at the end of the line, can the Marvel Universe ever truly be saved? Featuring shocking glimpses into the next year of Marvel stories!
why is Moon Knight a Villain again? and I don't thin Marc or Luke have ever had any interaction ever
>But who is Power Man – and how did he come to wield the unstable powers of the Sentry, the Hulk, and the Iron Fist?
Oh boy, it's been like two whole months of Aaronesque "what if character was other character?" bullshit.
yep it's Moon Knight being a mix of Iron Man, Eternal, Dr, Strange and Moon Knight vs Power Man, Sentry, the Hulk and Iron Fist.
That just looks like Hickman's Doom with the Eye of Agamotto. Lol.
the Power Man design as well
So they're going for Black Hyperion, I guess.
Didn't they already do that with Blue Marvel?
Blue Marvel is Black Sentry.
Does anybody except Al Ewing give a shit about Blue Marvel? Eve Ewing broke up him and Monica in her Photon book.
Like I said. Black Sentry. No one gives a shit about him. Just like Sentry.
Where's the Sentry's part?
By the way, something tell me we could get another parody of DC's Justice League by mixing Avengers:
- Superman: Power Man, Iron Fist, Hulk?, Sentry?
- Batman: Moon Knight, Iron Man, Doctor Strange.
Now we would need:
- Wonder Woman: Possibly a version of Captain Marvel.
- Green Lantern.
- Flash.
Any suggestions?
green lantern, would just a mixture of. cosmic heroes. so Quasar, Nova, DarkHawk, and captain marvel, genis vell
Don’t forget we got Black Widow as the new Venom
but only for one issue.
>Marc or Luke have ever had any interaction ever
they were together in Shadowland
did they interact though? exchange any dialogue? in theory they should know each over quite well since they both street. level hero's who started within a few years of each other but it's hard to think of a direct interaction between the two
I think he's on the page where Moon Knight throws up a condom full of shit.
>Moon Knight throws up a condom full of shit
wtf
>the page where Moon Knight throws up a condom full of shit.
Someone post this page. That can't be real.
>hulk, sentry, and iron fist
I don't see how moonie in a start suit would be a threat even if the machine is bringing him back.
>We're talking about the death and rebirth of Ms. Marvel. "She's coming back," says Nick Lowe, to some laughter from the audience. (That's what you get for bringing her back after less than two months, I guess.)
>Sabir Pirzada is co-writing the series with the MCU's Kamala Khan, Iman Vellani. "When Iman joined [the project], everything just came to life," he says, saying that it's difficult to separate Iman from Kamala.
Kamala's in college. for the X-men
>Kamala is going to be undercover at Empire State University on a mission for the X-Men, Sabir reveals. The cover for #2 has been revealed, with Kamala in the Danger Room.
>Ms. Marvel: The New Mutant is "one of the joys of Fall of X," Gerry says. "It's been a joy to watch it." Now we're seeing a trailer for the book.
how old is kamala now?
Same age she's always been a teenager
so a fourteen year old enrolling at university?
she was 14 in her introduction and she's ~17 now i think. so about 3 years passed over, what, 9 years?
17
Remember the few people who were insisting Marvel WASN'T bringing her back as a mutant?
Must be Marvel employees that if called out on claiming that would go "Oh but she came back as a mutant AND Inhuman"
The Marvel Weasel Way
I would assume it was people desperately convincing themselves that wasn't going to be the case.
The very idea of the X-Men resurrecting dead people but turning them into mutants was so conceptually moronic that it wasn't unreasonable to hope that Marvel wouldn't do something so stupid, and if they're being forced to comply with MCU synergy, they'd at least try to do it some other way that TRIED to make sense.
Is she getting her MCU powers to go with her comic powers?
>The trailer shows animated versions of covers for the series, with the tagline, "Welcome to the X-Men, Ms. Marvel - hope you survive the experience!" That sounds familiar...
yeah yeah whatever
here's the cover for the Timeless one-shot
YEAH THE GUY FROM OVERWATCH!
wonder if we might get Iron Fist and a Luke Cage book next year then since that area has been left fallow since devil's reign
If they do it, it'll be with the sword guy who has the fist now, and no one will read it.
I don't see any "Hulk" in this Luke Cage, but this Moon Knight has some Iron Man in it.
>I don't see any "Hulk" in this Luke Cage
His arm looks kinda green
But it could also be the lighting from the fist
Moon Knight's armor looks like something an AI would spit out if you asked for an Iron Man/Stormtrooper mash-up.
Take me Power Daddy
Lol with the chain and one shoulder cape he really looks like a male Power Girl in reverse colors
I'm fricking tired of the multiverse, Aaron run was all about it at the end and now we are getting even more of this shit.
Didn't Lowe say he was going to be avoiding conventions because of the Miss Marvel thing?
>Nick Lowe is teasing Spider-Boy #1 from Dan Slott and Paco Medina, coming out November 2023. "I've been at Marvel for 21 years, and I've never seen anything like the fever behind this Spider-Boy character when he debuted," Nick says. "We have such huge plans for this character."
what "fever"
The people who have been buying the comics he has appeared in so far to the point of multiple printings. You could claim speculators but don't they typically just buy the first issue appearance if that was the case?
Frick off, Slott. You need to lose some weight.
>No rebuttal
This is why nobody respects most of you comicgays.
Damn slott got mad, but can you see your penis slott
>You could claim speculators but don't they typically just buy the first issue appearance if that was the case?
Have you been living under a fricking rock the past decade? Speculators have been counting second printings (and so forth) as variants long ago. On top of that, Spider-Boy not only had a second printing but also a 1:25 incentive variant second printing. That doesn't sound to me like natural interest.
You mean comic book store owners have been buying the comic
A fever happens when you're sick and pedophilia is a sickness, so...
I guarantee they're not going to have Randy and Janice actually get married. Big Two comics are so allergic that not even being a C-list supporting character and C-list villain allows you to get away with it.
Ms Marvel covers
Laura, synch, rasputin and pink X-men?
So... They're letting Ms. Marvel write Ms. Marvel? Could be interesting
>Hey, what's Zeb Wells doing after killing Ms. Marvel? He's going to a wedding, as Tombstone's daughter is getting married to Robbie Robertson in Amazing Spider-Man #31. The wedding will go so wrong that it'll lead into the big fall event, he says. "This story is huge, the issue is huge," Nick says. "The last few pages are going to tease something that we're not going to talk about here." It'll be 80 pages.
oh okay then
>as Tombstone's daughter is getting married to Robbie Robertson in Amazing Spider-Man #31
WTF. Do you mean Randy (his son) or really Robbie?
the son
>Peter will kill tombstone as Goblin Spider and Cause the gang wars
No its happening in the wedding issue
Peter will kill him there.
if zeb's dick is this hard to frick over peter, is because he knows it will be undone later by supernatural and peter will get fricked hard.
The solicits say Shotgun did it
How are they ever going to complain spoilers leaking online when their own solicits do it.
>How are they ever going to complain spoilers leaking online when their own solicits do it.
Lmao when Kamala's death leaked Marvel tweeted out a warning to beware of spoilers and their very next tweet was about promoting her memorial issue.
Ms. Marvel as a mutant most people knew was going to happen when he was in MCU. Seeing it really happen is so fricking lame.
>What's coming up in ASM? Zeb's take on Kraven's Last Hunt, with Peter Parker "in a very bad mood" hunting Kraven. Also upcoming? Rep-Rak, who'll return in November's ASM.
>"Rep-Rak makes Ed McGuinness so happy," Zeb says.
blech
>Starting in November, Spider-Man: Gang War. Runs though December, according to Nick Lowe.
huh
Spider-man vs Waxman? also Rek-rap is fine
Wasn't there already a story called Gang War?
>Zeb's take on Kraven's Last Hunt
No, please.
>"We wanted to go back there and do a ground-level Spider-Man story, where Spider-Man gets his hands dirty," Zeb says. Starts with Amazing Spider-Man: Gang War - First Strike #1, by Zeb and Joey Vazquez, with a cover from John Romita Jr. "The city gets set on fire," Nick says.
>Gang War will also include spinoffs, including Luke Cage: Gang War, by Rodney Barnes and Ramón F. Bachs, with covers by Caanan White. "We're so excited to be launching this new Luke Cage book."
But will it get canceled like the Devil's Reign tie-in?
unless there are more race riots in america no i don't think so
>Spider-Woman #1 by Steve Foxe and Carola Borelli launches in November with a Gang War tie-in. "It's a back to basics Spider-Woman series, it puts [Jessica Drew] in a really bad spot," says Nick.
>Miles Morales: Spider-Man #12 by Cody Ziglar and Partha Pratim will also tie-in with Gang War.
ok
no Daredevil ,Moon Knight or Iron Fist tie-ins?
>"It's a back to basics Spider-Woman series, it puts [Jessica Drew] in a really bad spot," says Nick.
What's this even supposed to mean? "Back to basics," would be the more weird, occult horror vibe of the '70s series which honestly would be kind of interesting, especially if it means Skein getting some actual use as anything but a two-bit henchman/thug (which is horribly OOC for her). But I don't think that's what they mean at all.
Gang War covers
JRJR's work on this Spidey run has been supbar but dammit, these covers are still okay at the very least
I just Wells was fricking gone already
>JRJR's work on this Spidey run has been supbar
So just like standard JRJR then.
That's city property, Mr. Mayor
>hey John you got any unused pages from Kick-Ass?
When did the classic costume come back?
Been a while
an entire Spider-women run ago
years.
>The first official chapter of Gang War will be in Amazing Spider-Man #39, by Zeb and John Romita Jr. Features the debut of Spider-Man's special team for the arc: Peter, Miles Morales, Elektra Daredevil, Spider-Woman, and She-Hulk... with the cover for the issue featuring She-Hulk with barbed wire wrapped around her arms. (Peter has a baseball bat, as well.)
watch out guys, he's got a bat now
>We have even more Gang War announcements? Yes we do: Deadly Hands of Kung Fu: Gang War #1 by Greg Pak (artist unknown) launches in December! Covers will be by David Aja, Nick Lowe says.
Shang what are you doing here
no costume change for shang-chi I see
Still with the ten rings shit...
well it's not like he got rid of then at the end of Yang's run and he has then in the MCU so Pak is suck with what is a character who is generally street level put has Cosmic power so this entire event should be irrelevant to shang honestly(doesn't he still run. the five weapons society?)
>Daredevil: Gang War #1 also launches in December, and Elektra is at the center of it. It's by Erica Schutz and Sergio Dávila. (Wait, Elektra is still Daredevil after the Chip/Marco run...?)
yes, preview art of Daredevil #1 confirmed it
wonder what Matt will be doing then
Guess neither Matt or Elektra is staying in hell
Did I miss an issue where Elektra joined Matt in Hell? Last I remember, she fricked off and Matt seppuku'd himself into Hell, then fought the Beast and his sister.
Can Kelly and Lanzing do more than 12 issues on something or is it just bad luck? I liked their Cap and Guardians and both end earlyish, and the Tbolts are only a mini
>There's a checklist on the screen for Gang War -- "Gang War: First Strike is November, then the main thing runs December 2023 through March 2024. It's bigger than Dark Web, Nick promises.
march!?
four months in the winter does seems overly long for a street level event
checklist
Or you could just do it everyone else in the world does, and just read a manga that only has one story, and it is written by one author.
Frick all these books.
>Five fricking months of an event that will probably be forgotten by the end of 2024
Sweet. Another event to ignore.
I'm having Batman War Games flashbacks and I do not like it.
>I'm having Batman War Games flashbacks and I do not like it.
OK but what if Gang War has Miles in the Spoiler role from War Games?
too many tie-ins
>It's fan questions time! "Disclaimer here! We are Marvel Comics. Some of us do stuff with Marvel Studios, but we cannot answer questions about the movies or the games or whatever," Nick says, hoping for the best.
questions already?
well withy Hickman not their what's the point about revelling the ultimate line they will probably do that at NYCC
>First question: What is the creators' ultimate goal they want for fans to feel when they read their work? "I think our gold standard is to make you feel something," Gerry says. "We want you to feel like you were both entertained and feel horror or joy, or feel something."
>"My goal is always that I desperately want to be in the top 2 or 3 when you bring your stack [of comics] home," Zeb says. Sarah Brunstad says that comics can tell story through action in a way that other media can't.
>"It's really great when you can write something, or edit something, that readers say they keep revisiting again and again and again," Jordan White says.
NYCC's Next Big Thing panel last year was also stacked compared to SDCC's
>>"My goal is always that I desperately want to be in the top 2 or 3 when you bring your stack [of comics] home," Zeb says.
"Which is why I write complete dogshit"
Great job, dumbass.
Well his Spider-Man is high on the charts of ComicHub
but really because of the variants and variant incentives
That's something they specifically teased for this panel, what was the point then? Then again this Ultimate line probably doesn't launch until january 2024, so they probably have nothing worth showing.
WTF happened to that Ultimate Universe stuff we were getting here?
Nothing for MJ's Jackpot book?
Ultimate invasion still a thing?
we got a preview for the second issue yesterday anon
>"When you do decide that character has to die, what is your process?" asks Mark. "I think I killed someone most recently?" says Zeb. "I think that a character's death should be a very special thing, and it should be a culmination of their character. It shouldn't just happen to them, you want to see them make the ultimate decisions."
Wells is going to get cooked for this
>"You only die once, wink wink," says Zeb. "I think that's the trick," says Jackson. "When we attack death in superhero comics... I think a big part of the point of it feels like it doesn't have meaning, it feels very random, very sad, and very shocking. What you're going to do is tell a story about how that death ultimately matters to those around them."
>Respecting your feelings for what these characters are going through is central to what we're doing as storytellers," says Collin. "We're sorry for Guardians of the Galaxy #6." "Get the tissues ready for Hellfire Gala when it comes out next week," adds Gerry. "We don't do it lightly."
The utter lack of self-awareness
@138437331
kys troll
>Wesley asks how characters decide between creating new characters versus existing obscure characters. "I'll just talk about what it was like in the room hearing House of X when Jonathan [Hickman] was initially proposing that story," Gerry says. "We have so many mutants that are your favorites, that's why there were so many team books, so we could service so many of your favorites at once."
>"Some of it depends on the situation, right?" Nick adds; does the story need to be told that couldn't use existing characters? That's where Spider-Boy came from. "We started on Captain America: Sentinel of Liberty with a character on the table that we thought had been forgotten," Jackson says, talking about the Destroyer, one of Stan Lee's first creations for Marvel. "We figured, if we don't pick this character up, who knows if anyone will ever pick this character up ever again?"
>"We figured, if we don't pick this character up, who knows if anyone will ever pick this character up ever again?"
so they just kill him off and make sharon destroyer in a really lame costume?
>"We started on Captain America: Sentinel of Liberty with a character on the table that we thought had been forgotten," Jackson says, talking about the Destroyer, one of Stan Lee's first creations for Marvel.
Except Robert Kirkman did a MAX series with him 15 years ago, and had several appearances from the mid-90s to early 2000s before that...
Different Destroyer
Don’t hate Gang War as an event
I do. There is nothing more boring in a Spider-Man, or indeed a superhero, book than street level gang shit.
Agreed. Outside of the occasional Kingpin story I never really cared for most of the mob boss stuff in Spider-Man comics, it generally works better with low- or non-powered heroes.
I liked the gang war story Conway did in the '80s but that was less about Spider-Man and more of a JJJ and Chameleon story and in that context it's cool. But that's an exception. When I start seeing your Hammerheads and Maggia goons and Mr. Negatives and shit, I nope out. They're dull and I don't take any of them seriously as threats for the hero.
>They're dull and I don't take any of them seriously as threats for the hero.
Exactly. Some of them could work fine as foes for Daredevil, Moon Knight or someone like that, but in a Spider-Man comic you just know you could be reading about Spidey fighting some supervillain instead of a mob boss and a bunch of useless mooks.
That said, even a Daredevil comic you'd probably rather see him fighting Stilt-Man, Bullseye, Mr Fear, Gladiator or the Owl rather than some mob guys.
I love my street-level "one man against the whole mob" stories and I'm inclined to agree. I never really cared much about organized crime in Spider-Man stories. It's not even a powerlevel thing for me, I just feel at best they should be a part of Spider-Man's early years. Same way many Batman adaptations do. When you use them after so many colorful villains already exist in the universe, they just come off as bland.
>Richard, a fan with a fandom, is asking how everyone became comic fans. "I really fell in love with comics, I was in second grade, I fell off my bike and broke my arms, and my brother brought me a bag with two X-Men comics in it," Nick says. "There's lots of on-ramps to comics," Gerry says, saying that he was reading his dad's tabloids and comic books as a kid.
>Sabir's first comic was an anti-smoking comic starring Spider-Man, Storm, and Luke Cage, but he really fell in love with comics when Marvel's Ultimate comics were released online as Marvel's Dot Comics. Remember those?!?
>Ultimate comics were released online as Marvel's Dot Comics. Remember those?!?
Let’s go I remember reading 100 issues of Ultimate Spider-Man this way
Kelly and Lanzing’ as Guardians did seem like a limited pitch/story at least. It won’t feel cut off early possibly
>Austin says that he's getting caught up on Amazing Spider-Man, and asks Zeb Wells if he's had this stuff in his head since he was a kid. "All the stories that were in the back of my head were gone," Zeb says. "It's been a terrifying, fun journey."
for you maybe, for us...not so much
>Cole asks for advice for aspiring creators. "Write comics and finish them," Jackson says. "Finish that comic, and make another comic. And then finish THAT comic and make another comic. Make comics."
>And that's the end of our time! We're not done with liveblogs at San Diego Comic-Con, though: we have another one tomorrow, with the Woman of Marvel panel. As always, thanks for reading along!
So to recap:
>Timeless 2023
>Gang War and tie-ins
very little from this panel honestly
I wanted something about Mary Jane, honestly.
there's mention she's in gang wars.
Was kinda expecting something about that Jackpot book, but I guess they'd rather not mention MJ after everything.
This SDCC has been such a boring pile of nothing that even the Storytimes of Pain aren't interesting. None of the classics really, not even shit like America.
I love the SoP but at the end of the day I'm reading very little I'm enjoying in general so reading more trash isn't what I want right now. This is one of the worst eras in comics.
Surprised Wells hasn't done a follow up to Shed yet but I'll give it time I think he'll eventually get round to it in his current run
If he undoes all the work Spencer did in fixing Curt and his family after all the bullshit between Shed and the joke ending of Clone Conspiracy then I really will consider his run as the second worst ASM run ever ahead of Mackie. Slott will never be beaten as the worst just because the length of his run means there's an unending amount of stupid ideas and bad stories that no one writer will ever be able to surpass.
Considering the last time we saw Connors was at the end of Beyond where he’s somehow merged with Lizard again and also been Morb’d I’d say it’s already happened
That Lizard that showed up in Beyond was never said to be Curt AFAIK, it was just some weird looking Lizard. Could have easily just been a Beyond clone or something.
Peter very much calls him Curt for some reason. Now that could just be Thompson, Wells, and Lowe all being hacks mind you, and any competent writer could easily write around it. But I don’t see anything with Curt happening any time soon
Shit
Who wants to bet that wires got crossed, and that they will reveal the Ultimate Universe titles next month or at NYCC?
Most likely at NYCC
This just asks, why did they put Hickman's name in panel description, if they didn't discuss the Ultimate Universe? Either he couldn't make it, or decided to wait some more. I just want to hear more about what was announced at that retailer launch on Thursday.
>more about what was announced at that retailer launch on Thursday.
what announcement was this? i must have missed it
On Thursday, Diamond held a conference where a bunch of the publishers got up and showed off stuff. Marvel announced a mini series set during the time when Daredevil had a black suit, a Howard the Duck One-shot and a one shot written by Tom Defalco and drawn by Pat Oliffe celebrating the 40th anniversary of Secret Wars.