Master and Commander

>Everyone is singing
>Join in the fun
>Instantly kills the mood and everyone gets angry at him
Is there a more JUST character in this movie?

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't help that he's an indecisive, nervous wreck that wants to be buddies with the men instead of their commander.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >an indecisive, nervous wreck that wants to be buddies with the men instead of their commander

      literally me

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Your name wouldn't be Jonah by any chance, would it?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literally my current foreman at work.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      How would you have saved him?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Saved him? Jack gave him all the tools and advice to save himself and what does he do? Cannonballs himself to Davey Jones' locker.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Other guy is right, Jack gave it to him straight and he had to take it from there. That said, in a time and place where everyone 100% believes in God and the Bible, being called a Jonah is kinda sucky. I guess you'd need a lot of luck and a priest/chaplain on board to calm the men down.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >wants to be buddies with the men instead of their commander.
      Classic mistake in literally every leadership role. Can't say I'd be above it, I would 100% be a bendover "nice boss" instead of a proper authority figure. The Greeks were right, some men are just born leaders.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think I would lean too far into the "tyrant" side, at least at first.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because you aren’t a leader, anyone with power can be tyrant.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I agree. That's why I have no desire to be in a leadership position. I would suck at it.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Sometimes you're put in a leadership position.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                True, and I suppose if I ever find myself in one, I'll have to adapt as best I can.

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    He lacked authority which led to disrespect.

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    You are supposed to share the Doctor's discomfort that Jack is no less superstitious than his crew.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's the superstition in this scene? IIRC He's not yet been called a Jonah. Is an officer singing considered bad luck?
      Always loved the dynamic of Jack being a conservative old seadog and the doctor being the 1800 equivalent of a leftist-university bookworm.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fraternizing with the crew as an officer is bad form and made the crew suspicious of him. Its hard to find an equivalent modern situation since sailing ships at the time was extremely hierarchical in a way that most people today would find bizarre.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Modern militaries still have officers and enlisted.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          It wasn't fraternizing itself. It was fraternizing and being disrespected. If he fraternized in a way the common men respected, he'd be fine. But he acted like a limp-wristed, effeminate, indecisive idiot, while lowering himself to their level. He could act that way and still maintain their begrudging respect only by maintaining the veneer of an officer. He would still have to get along with the other officers, and considering he held the same rank as prepubescent boys, he didn't have their respect either. He's such a cringing, fricking loser who needed to look at himself and grow a spine.

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >sings a bit too well
    meanwhile the doctor and captain literally play gay duets all day in their bunk

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      you just dont get it dork

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      issue wasn't that he sang well

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was a matter of disrespect, the crew considered him a pariah and would rather pipe down to show their discontent.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong. It's the fact he was joining in with the men.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      His singing came from a posh performance angle instead of merely brute expression of joy commiseration and camaraderie. He looked like he was showing off to the men what a trained voice sounds like

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong, you cringe fricking moron.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Solid rebuttal pussy boy, if I ever see you in person I'll frick your ass til it prolapses and cut it out and keep it for a fleshlight

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm gonna find you and break your fricking fingers with a hammer and shove your limp fist up your mothers floppy c**t so you can never type such moronic bullshit on here again.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      The captain and doctor played music only with each other as equals and never showed it off in front of the crew

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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >thread looks good
    >post a reply
    >thread is archived

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      have a painting for your troubles

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Enlarge the picture
        >Hey, that's a good looking ship
        >Scroll to the bottom and see that homie in the corner
        >Aw shit...

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    He's the dude from the knight bus in that harry potter movie

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