I very much enjoyed Revolution.
What does Cinemaphile think of He-Man finally dodging the gay accusations and Getting The Girl?
Masters of the Universe
I very much enjoyed Revolution.
What does Cinemaphile think of He-Man finally dodging the gay accusations and Getting The Girl?
If they wanted to keep He-Man straight, fine. But having no gay characters at all was a mistake. Always better to roll with pop culture, and He-Man's a pop culture gay icon.
They DID have a gay character, anon.
Average watcher: "I hate Kevin Smith for [thing that never happened]"
Me: "I hate Kevin Smith for not having Fisto in it more."
That cant be the "Average watcher" because they didn't watch it. A random person who stumbles upon this on netflix probably wouldnt even know Kevin Smith made this
Killing Fisto was such a blunder. Dude was the king of memes.
I'm even more surprised they killed Clamp Champ. They were struggling to add black characters and they killed an original one
Yeah, that WAS weird. I'm guessing it was a mix of his power being on the shitty side and him seeming like a good candidate for a "Noble self-sacrificing warrior" that nobody would shed a ton of tears over. Like, they had the concept that a couple heroes would die then they decided that he would be one (1) to increase the diversity of the show's cast, and (2) because he's not a major character like Ram Man.
I took it for a little joke. Champ Clamp has ALMOST appeared in things a couple times. So have him finally appear in something only to immediately drop an anvil on him.
That seems like a bigger stretch than Mekaneck's neck. They were just ticking off appearances for all the old toy characters and the dude who never appeared in anything was considered VERY expendable.
Who the frick did they not kill?
Killed: Moss Man, Sorceress, Roboto, Clamp Champ, Fisto, King Randor, Granamyr, Motherboard
I think that's everyone, not counting the "I got better" Brigade.
I hate how I have a crush on Fisto. It's because of his beard not fist I swear.
Considering people were up in arms about Smith putting SJW stuff in the show when he put no SJW stuff in the show, I can only imagine the internet riots if he'd had an actual gay character.
Probably for the best to just have a bunch of characters with no clear sexuality and let viewers make their own calls.
>Probably for the best to just have a bunch of characters with no clear sexuality and let viewers make their own calls.
Tangential to that, I was sure when I watched Revelation Ep 10 that Orko was telling Evil-Lyn "Stop being Evil and I'll date you!", but that never went anywhere.
I am desperately hoping that the final chapters have Evil-Lyn and Orko moments, even if they're just close friends. Them teaming up for magic at the end of the last episode was a start, at least.
The relationships are definitely the weakest part of the show. With something like He-Man (or GI Joe or Transformers or any of that stuff) you know that the heroes will win, the bad guys will lose, and most likely the major heroes will survive. Maybe you can pull off some good plot twists (like Castlevania's Varney reveal, that was AMAZING), but for the most part the only place where you can really grab and keep the viewers is interesting character backgrounds and interesting character relationships. Soap Opera shit gets put into shows for a reason. She-Ra understood it, and had people wondering what would happen to specific characters even if everyone knew Good would prevail. MOTU:R didn't get it.
If you're going to have people hate you because they think there's "SJW stuff" in the show, you may as well have a gay character. The people that hate the show won't budge or listen to reason, may as well try to appeal to other audiences. Nothing to lose.
It doesn't make the show better or worse if there's a gay character, anon.
In politics, if your opponents are going to call you a Commie no matter what, you may as well try to help The Poors and get their votes.
In entertainment, if twitterheads are going to call you Woke no matter what, you may as well have a gay character or something, and get views from the people who hope to see that.
And in He-Man's case there's a built-in pop-culture idea that you can either fight or embrace. Embracing makes more sense.
He-Man is owned by Hasbro, anon. They're not going to make Buzz-Off gay in the hopes of scoring some Social Points.
>He-Man is owned by Hasbro, anon.
Didn't stop She-Ra.
Dreamworks' show was made using the old Filmation rights to She-Ra. Mattel had no say. The Netflix He-Man shows are an entirely different matter, and Mattel isn't going to make a character gay and risk their toy sales.
>A gay character in media would tank toy sales
lol what?
Tell that to Hasbro.
Hasbro has a broader range of IPs actually successful with kids. Mattel has He-Man's aging and often conservative demographic, and isn't going to want to frick around with that. They're likely to play it safe. You may not want them to, but that's how the company rolls. MOTU:Revolution/Revelation was a "play it safe" production, and the fact that it STILL managed to get dragged into culture war bullshit honestly makes it look like Mattel made the right call by playing it safe.
There are no hasbro gay MCs tho?
There's a shitload of gay minor characters.
Plus the epilogue confirmed that two of the MCs ended up a couple in [REDACTED].
I didn't say anything about Main Characters, and in fact specifically said not to go near He-Man himself. There's a lot of lesser characters in Hasbro stuff, if Mattel really was afraid that throwing a bone to the gays would hurt their sales they're not paying attention to what their competition has done.
Hasbro??? The toys were created by Mattel, same makers of Barbie and Hot Wheels. You are a homosexual.
>when he put no SJW stuff in the show
So did Kevin Smith just not do anything for the show beyond lie that he was the biggest He-Man fan ever and shill for it and have his name attached?
>Years later being this butthurt that Smith exaggerated his "watched it for the ridiculous camp" feelings about He-Man
He didn't just exaggerate, dumbass. He went from saying he hated it to acting like he was the most hardcore of hardcore fans.
Anyway, how much does being a shill pay? I can shill way better than you. Tell your ~~*masters*~~ I'm willing to shill for the ~~*money*~~.
He said he thought it was "bad" in a way that kept him going back for more. He mainly enjoyed it as camp. That's a pretty common view. You can find enjoyment from something and think some elements are worth a reboot/modernization while thinking the original work was hammy as hell.
Your attempt at a segue is pretty weak. The fact is Kevin lied and the viewers didn't like that. There is no reason for anyone to trust a known liar. You can shill people literal shit and call it steak all you want but don't get pissy when we call you out on it.
>He lied
VERY debatable, because you can express the same feelings in different ways to different audiences, ESPECIALLY when it comes to campy things. If you kept watching He-Man when you were outside its very-young demographic, you were probably enjoying the campiness. Speaking to people his age he said he kept watching eps even though he knew the writing was for younger viewers, and the writing was not great. Speaking to those younger viewers (who grew up) he pulled his punches and went with "I watched it!" without saying "but c'mon guys, have you watched it as adults? It's not exactly Batman the Animated Series!"
Weak segue is weak. The fact that you're this desperate to shill something that people don't like tells me everything I need to know about you. You're not subverting expectations, you're just a homosexual. Now back to your hole, shill. This is your last (you) from me.
>he put no SJW stuff in the show
This. The most SJW thing in the whole damn show was Teela's awful haircut.
And that fixed itself when she became Sorceress.
Which is why all the crying about He-Man not being in the first season was moronic. He was only absent from like, 3 out of 10 episodes and he fought Skeletor what, 4? 5 fricking times?
It was just loser homosexuals like COMICS WITH YA BOY ZACK and The Quartering and Clownfish shitting on things they didn't even watch.
But if they knew anything about He-Man they'd have recognized it as the story where Teela takes over as Sorceress, something that needed to be told eventually because it was always the fricking plan for her anyway.
So was her and He-Man getting together and eventually having a son. All shit that was planned back in the god damn 80's. All Kevin Smith did was take production notes and blurbs off toy packages from 30+ years ago and make it into a cartoon.
Fricking secondaries I swear.
I loved how this guy's design was so faithful to his appearance in the 2002 cartoon and toy. Totally now SJW shit at all!
>They made a dead npc black, those SJWs!
Dude was even less important to the story than Heimdall was in Thor.
Funny how I never see complaints about repaint Teela in the CGI show. Just complaints about Smith doing it to a much less important character. Almost like people were just looking for something to b***h about and willing to scrape the bottom of the barrel.
I fricking hate King Greyskull's raceswap somuch because it's just so out of place as an ancestor of He-Man who is Aryan as frick. They also brought him over to the vintage toys despite bringing over 200x stuff, so he's the OG He-Man's ancestor too.
>It's so out of place
>He-Man and the Masters of the Universe, the ultimate "Don't Ask Questions" franchise with a world of talking trees, dragons, and shapeshifting alien cyborgs
The king didn't get species swapped into a dragon, talking tree or cyborg and frick until his species became pure aryan white. If it did I'd asking even more questions you disingenuous homosexual.
And all that shit you mentioned IS in subtext. Some of it is in the toys though.
>It's super-important to maintain pure Aryan ancestry in this world with Rabbit-men and sentient piles of moss
yes it is
They established King Greyskull as being around during the messy wars between magic and technology on Eternia, which magic kinda-sorta-won before settling into a peaceful era when both magic and technology were abundant. It was so long ago and in such a chaotic time that there's no point in getting upset over details.
I never watched the CGI show that's why i never complained about it. Unlike Clownfish tv and all of Cinemaphile I need to watch something to criticize. Inversely there have been raceswaps that don't bother me like 200x Zodak and Revelation Andra.
Can we just go back to talking about gays
>The most SJW thing in the whole damn show was Teela's awful haircut.
I remember.
>So was her and He-Man getting together and eventually having a son. All shit that was planned back in the god damn 80's.
>Fricking secondaries I swear.
If you want to go there, Adam/He-Man marrying Teela and raising a son was a pitch from Lou Scheimer to Mattel and DIC in the mid-90s (because Filmation had been shuttered by its parent company circa 1988 and he obviously missed the He-Man phase of his career). Pic related.
If you look at the MANY guest appearances He-Man had on She-Ra from 1985-7, they were shipping him with no fewer than FOUR women, oblivious to any destiny with Teela (who almost never cameoed once Masters of the Universe wrapped production).
She's the one he hung out with in the eps people remember, and they were definitely going for a meet-cute in 2002 (not a well-done one, but I digress...). Plus the comics. Smith's show was just following the tracks already laid down.
>It was just loser homosexuals like COMICS WITH YA BOY ZACK
Actually, he was one of the few people in that crew that actually genuinely watched it and liked it.
Do you people have nothing better to do than lie on Cinemaphile? I struggle to believe you are real human beings when you are in every single thread, cycling through the same battery of disingenuous nonsense no matter how many times you get schooled.
You are free to post screenshots and quotes from the show which prove them wrong. We are waiting.
I'm sure people didn't hate the show because of woke shit. They hated it because of the bait and switch. Killing off He Man so hardly in the show and writing Teela as a bad representation of a person in general is not SJW. Its just bad writing that was hyped by false advertising.
>Bait and switch
Okay, let's discuss this.
He-Man went down being awesome, and without him the world was falling apart, while all his friends and family falling into depression. He was sidelined for three of the ten Revelation episodes, the eps where he was "dead" featured flashbacks further establishing him as the best thing since sliced bread, and the last of those three eps ended with the non-reveal that he'd be coming back. We were promised Masters of the Universe with He-Man heavily in it, and we got Masters of the Universe with He-Man heavily in it and the slight twist that he got sidelined for part of the beginning explicitly as a way to explain why the stakes of this adventure were higher - with He-Man out of the way things got bad.
I'll give you that Teela was not a likable character in those eps, but all this talk of a bait-and-switch is more a meme than a legitimate criticism.
>Actually trying to have a good faith argument about something on Cinemaphile
Adorable.
Hope springs eternal.
>Adorable.
Queers add nothing of interest to any story in and of themselves, especially when they're solely placed there to be the token gays. You'd think more people would understand this, but then, mental illness is a b***h.
"Token" gays don't add much storywise, but they do provide basic baseline representation. If it's okay to put in Gwildor as a shout-out to the small segment of He-Man fans that liked the movie, why not have a minor character turn out to be gay as a shout-out to the small segment of He-Man fans that liked MOTU's gay popculture relevance?
I'm not even saying that it was a real problem there were no gay characters, but OP was implying it was a victory that "gay accusations" were dodged. I'd argue that finding a way to show some minor representation for gay fans would've been a better scenario than just He-Man finally getting a girlfriend. Let Adam and Teela frick and show Snout-Spout holding hands with a dude in the background, there, everyone gets something.
there is nothing gay about he man gays just projected it onto him kys
>That was just something people projected onto it
Caught on though, didn't it?
yeah I never got why tbh no one says conan is gay also that image isn't gay
>I never got why people projected homosexuality onto He-Man
We may never know.
>two men next to each other they must be le gay
I hate this meme
>Two men next to each another
That is not a very honest description of the picture.
it is
No, it's not. I'm sorry anon, but Adam and Bow's clothing raise some eyebrows. He-Man didn't end up a gay joke out of nowhere, and it's very silly to go "it was just men standing next to one another" while refusing to see why the character designs fed into the perception. A burly man in pink and lavender is going to be seen a certain way. It didn't help that the various reboots failed to gain any real traction, so the cultural image of He-Man didn't really change over time.
they be lookin zesty
More like HE-MOIST
No.
It's something the franchise is known for. Whether or not it's fair is irrelevant. You can fight it trying to ignore it, you can embrace it (not a hope in hell with a toy company calling the shots), or you can try to find some middle ground and have a gay character or two in there. The last option probably makes the most sense and might actually get Gen Z to put down their FortNite for five minutes and look at this.
>Culture demands at least one gay character
There it is, the one tiny thought that has led to everything sucking absolute dogshit.
>What does Cinemaphile think of He-Man finally dodging the gay accusations and Getting The Girl?
I never saw any romantic chemistry between him and Teela before this reboot.
Back in 80s, he had women throwing themselves at him... on Etheria.
have a nice day kevin
The 80's Cartoon was lame and unintentionally gay. All the bright colors and He-Man's costume made the show appealing to homosexuals.
Aye, and the people who made the Live Action movie were idiots for not understanding that appeal and making everything dark and grimy!
I'm forgotten
Now now, none of that.
Being "the low bar" for a franchise is an important role!
It's genuinely funny that the minicomics, 2002, memes, and even the movie got references, but New Adventures got nothing.
Nor should it.
In b4 someone saying it was misunderstood.
I doubt even the writers of New Adventures had any real love for it. It was executive driven.
shame because they actually had a couple good moments in one of the few mini-comics they did for New Adventures
Should probably have posted one of those good moments then.
https://deadline.com/2024/02/masters-of-the-universe-travis-knight-1235824500/
>this iteration revolves around 9-year-old Prince Adam crashing to Earth in a spaceship and being separated from his Magical Sword – the only link to his home on Eternia.
Frick's sake.
AFTER EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED WITH THE FIRST HE-MAN MOVIE, THEY'RE SERIOUSLY DOING SHIT WITH EARTH AGAIN?!?
The fricked up thing is that considering how incestuous and ingrained corporate culture is, it's probably the literal exact same executives making both decisions.
"Kids like Earth. It's where we get most of our sales."
>The fricked up thing is that considering how incestuous and ingrained corporate culture is, it's probably the literal exact same executives making both decisions.
I'm sure they wish they could do something similar to whatever the frick produced the Barbie movie, but I just don't see it happening. Any attempt at social relevance just wouldn't boost the toyline, which is what they really want to do with He-Man. They could afford to be experimental with the Barbie movie, those toys sell just fine.
No this was the old script hopefully it's scrapped
>Adam grows up on Earth, then is sent to Eternia where he's the most powerful being in existence
Isekai He-Man.
You joke but that's the exact mentality. They want a main character that walks around going "explain Greyskull to me" and "Skeletor, who's that?" with the excuse that he didn't grow up on that world. Oh, and he can make Current Day references and compare things on Eternia to things on Earth.
I would watch this.
Especially if they went harem route.
>Especially if they went harem route.
One of the issues Smith ran into is that if you don't have access to the She-Ra extended cast "The Women of Masters of the Universe" consists of Teela, Evil-Lyn, Sorceress, Adam's mom, and a bunch of Literal Whos. You can try to make the Literal Whos more important (like Andra) but the nostalgic "OMG IT'S HER" factor isn't there like with seeing an update of the more well-known guys.
Who said anything about the harem being girls?
Frick off, shill.
Well, 'girl' is a bit subjective here since this Teela is almost as masculine as He-Man is, and definitely more than he is as Adam. But what, did Kevin Smith backpedal on making Teela the main character.
>masculine
TEELA: W-was a sidecut fine?
HE-MAN: A cat is finer.
Woah woah woah.
Cinemaphile told me Teela was a dyke. Did they lie?
>Queers discovering that no one cares when they “claim” characters
You love to see all this fudgepacker seethe lmao
what in god's name are you going on about?
>thread is full of gays complaining there’s not enough queer pandering in Kevin-Man even though he’a a “queer icon”
>but also complaining that Da Chuds invented “SJW shit” to be mad that didn’t actually exist in the show
>without a shred of self awareness
If you’re not gonna read the thread why bother posting?
What's the contradiction? There wasn't any in the show, and people b***hed as if there had been, so Smith may as well have had a gay character in there. There were already people acting like he'd made Teela a lesbian, he may as well have pulled a Paranorman and had Andra say "boy wait until my girlfriend hears I met He-Man!" or something. Or have an aside where we learn Sy-Klone has a husband, because who would care if Sy-Klone is gay?
If they're going to tar and feather you for doing something you DIDN'T do, but that some people WOULD like to see you do, you may as well do it.
>it’s okay for us to demand things based on out own delusions
>the Bad People doing that is unacceptable though! Reeeeee
And this is why your homosexual seethe is funny.
>it’s okay for us to demand things based on out own delusions
>the Bad People doing that is unacceptable though! Reeeeee
I can sort of see the edges of what you're trying to say here, but it's a really shitty and mangled point.
People sperged out over what they thought was in the show, even though it wasn't in the show. Yes, that's bad.
You really can't compare that to people going "it would've been nice if the show DID have a minor gay character though."
It really is rules for thee but not for me with you types isn’t it? Never mind that they were absolutely right about SJW shit like Adam being sidelined and killed, where you’re just whining it wasn’t SJW enough. Lmao.
...You really getting this worked up and going "rules for thee but not for me" and ranting about SJWs, all because someone said they thought it'd be nice if the show had a gay character?
>Adam was sidelined and killed tho
For just long enough to show the world falling apart without him.
I want to frick Skeletor.
Im just going to assume the 2002 show was better
>I very much enjoyed Revolution.
I find that hard to believe.
I bet many things are hard for you.
I guess manchildren wanted he-man to be the main character in revelation. good thing they fixed that for revolution
what's dumb is that anyone can lift the sword and get he-man powers. doesn't happen in she-ra.
Keeping in mind wishy-washy continuity, Skeletor wanting to get his hands on the sword and the Power of Grayskull was a big part of the whole He-Man thing. Movie Skeletor very much pulled it off. I don't see why anyone would have a serious problem with "oh shit, the baddies have The Power of Grayskull!" as a problem for the good guys to have to solve.
having gays in your cartoons despite the protests of chuds is based
Go woke go broke.
Prove me wrong
Adventure Time went quite Woke and was stupidly successful to the point where even though it's over they keep throwing more pseudo-seasons at it.
Not talking quality but it sure as hell didn't go broke
>Prove me wrong
I doubt any movies/shows have bombed specifically because a minor character was gay.
He-Man's still a gay icon, so...
>He-Man's still a gay icon, so...
So are rainbows, Judy Garland, working out, and having metal jammed into your right earlobe.
Just because gays adopt something as one of their icons or symbols, that doesn't make it inherently gay. That just means gays lack creativity and can only corrupt existing things instead of making their own shit.
>lack creativity
Yes anon, if there's one thing gay people are known for it's being totally shut out of the creative arts.
When he died he did get shut out of the creative arts.
Counterargument: Despite him being dead Freddie's art is more alive than most of the artists this board discusses.
Freddie Mercury was gay. But he wasn't a homosexual.
>The troony is still shilling this garbage non-stop
I haven't seen anyone saying Revolution was bad. "Not perfect" maybe, but nobody seems to ever argue it was bad. Even Clownfish liked it.
Still not watching your abortion, Kevin.
Orko...
I've seen better "peeks" at what's under the robes.
Ruined
Orko looks like a gebril.
What is the appeal of He-Man here?
Strong. Him.
>What is the appeal of He-Man
Good question, and possibly the key to why the franchise has struggled, because everything he does others do better. He's strong, wholesome, and good, but Superman does all that and has cooler powers, and an origin that you can mine for better stories.
He transforms from a weaker to a stronger form. Hulk does that in a more interesting way, as does Shazam. She-Ra does too, and she has a similar kitchen-sink setting, AND she has the way-more-interesting background of being raised by the villains, so she's essentially fighting the people she grew up with.
He's supposedly a barbarian but unlike Conan he can't actually hack anyone.
Hey Cinemaphile, what IS the appeal of He-Man?
If people are being honest, 90% of the appeal is nostalgia/memes and Skeletor. He-Man himself isn't the worst protagonist, but he's not particularly good either. Skeletor though is a gloriously over-the-top villain in every incarnation. No matter which version of MOTU we're talking about people will make a point of praising Skeletor. He's the real star.
>Thing people praised in the movie was Skeletor
>Thing people praise the most about 2002 was Skeletor
>Thing people praised the most in Revolution was Skeletor and Keldor's interactions
Taps into my unga bunga brain
He punch skull man in face
the cartoon intro and the music
corny dialogue and the voices
character design
mods, can you ban people who do this shit? just asking.
Hard course correct. I wouldn't call wasting time fixing all of the moronic writings from the first two seasons good writing. Also everything seems to happen in a cut away.
>It's a course correction
It's very clearly the course set from the start. Everything flows from where the last season left off.
He-Man and MOTU are sliding out of pop culture and are likely to end up on the Forgotten Trends trash heap next to The Lone Ranger. I wouldn't bother getting too worked up that an alternate universe version of a very minor character has more melanin.
>race is just le skin colour
Who would you even make gay and what would it even add to the character? It's been 150 replies and no one bothered to explain themselves.
Leaning into pop culture can backfire and make everything look like a meme or ironic so I'd prefer if it was for an actual reason if they were going to do something like that. I don't remember a lot ofromance in MotU either but my memory is fuzzy.
>Who would you even make gay
Sy-Klone
>what would it even add to the character?
It would make people go "oh yeah, Sy-Klone, the gay one" instead of "who the frick is Sy-Klone?"
Beyond the very core crew, these are not characters whose stories are deeply carved into fans' brains.
He was cool in 200x. Mecha samurai dude, last of his race standing to guard ancient samurai mecha armour...
He's still very very much a C-List character in a franchise on life support. More well known than Photog, but that's Photog for you.
>Who would you even make gay and what would it even add to the character
Fisto.
What would it even add?
In the 80s cartoon he was one of Skeletor's Evil Warriors before learning a lesson and joining the good guys. So add that he was following Skeletor out of unrequited love (
).
The 2002 cartoon made him Man-At-Arms' brother, so there'd be parallelism to MAA following the goody-goody Sorceress out of love.
Plus it'd be funny
Ok i'll ship it
Was there ever english translation for El Bananero's He-Man?
All I know is this video with my native polish subtitles is not accurate. I am pretty sure it's just gay jokes, but I would love for once to understand proper english translation.
Are the dc comics any good?
The Thundercats/MOTU and Injustice/MOTU is one of the best crossovers you could read.
Don't know shit about Thundecats but I'll check it out anyways thanks
They're... okay. Nothing worth breaking your back to get, but not bad.
They have their moments.
It's weird how this show is still keep going despite the backlash?
Grifter-induced social media outrage tends to look worse than actual reactions. That's not to say that it didn't take a dent, the show didn't pull numbers like IPs like Sonic. But it was far from a bomb.
He-Man hasn't been relevant since 1990, no shit it didn’t pull in views like Sonic.
>He-Man hasn't been relevant since 1990, no shit it didn’t pull in views like Sonic.
The crash was in '87 actually. Supposedly a 98% sales drop in a single year, but some estimates are even worse. He-Man gave Mattel four good years of dominance and then... HOLY SHIT WHAT IS HAPPENING
Woah what actually caused the sales and popularity to nosedive that hard? Even if it's just a guess.
I remember seeing the cancelled 88 line ideas and they were all recolored kitbashes.
>Woah what actually caused the sales and popularity to nosedive that hard? Even if it's just a guess.
Sourced from Roger Sweet 2006, Mastering the Universe: He-Man and the Rise and Fall of a Billion-Dollar Idea and "The Toys That Made Us" episode 3:
1982: $38.2 million
1983: $80 million (cartoon Season 1 debuted September-December '83)
1984: $111 million
1985: $250 million (She-Ra debuts)
1986: $400 million
1987: $7 million
What people who were in the boys' division at Mattel in 1986 have said is that they had been working with the supply chain to make sure enough He-Man, Skeletor and other main characters were in each box stores received that a child attracted to the line for the first time could find them, not just the new secondary characters for existing fans. Then after the hot sales for the '85 Christmas season, Mattel executives went over their heads and forced stores to buy a ton of stock to maintain their relationship with the company, which they had the warehouses fulfill with whichever characters were sitting there (executive compensation was tied to the year's gross sales). Some 98% of retailers couldn't sell their 86 purchases by Christmas and so refused to ever buy more MotU.
Compared to CGI flopping unseen and the movie in development hell this is actually doing WELL.
Laughing at how Mattel's only chance to expand sales significantly was the Dreamworks show that they refused to provide with merch the fans would actually buy.
Knowing Mattel, they probably blame Dreamworks' She-Ra for their problems and think it stole the thunder from their He-Man reboot and made people assume in advance that their shows would be super-liberal.
There's old Mattel vets that will tell anyone that listens that the original She-Ra show was what killed MOTU... definitely not any blunders elsewhere.
It's the reverse approach though. The Masters of the Universe movie sucked because it dropped He-Man, Teela, and Man At Arms in fricking California, but they were still soldiers/barbarians. Alien fish in Earthly water. The new movie is doing the reverse, making He-Man a dude raised on Earth that gets Alice-in-Wonderlanded to Eternia where he finds out he's He-Man. Earthly fish in Alien water.
The movie was the nail in the coffin not She-Ra. They could have revitalized sales with a good movie but they got greedy and partnered with a shitty studio because it promised to split the profits.
We're never getting the ending to the CGI MOTU story, are we?
>It's weird how this show is still keep going despite the backlash?
Latest season was on Netflix Top 10 for a week. Presumably Mattel thinks it's worth the investment, even though I'm sure they were hoping for even more enthusiasm.
Flixview put Revolution in the Top 10 for dozens of countries, including South American ones. It hit #2 in Brazil. The fact that the "backlash" didn't keep it from hitting numbers in more conservative Latin America countries should tell you how artificial the "backlash" was in the first place.
Sorry, but Revelations soured it all for me.
Kevin can go frick himself.
Do I need to watch Revelations to watch Revolution? Is Revelation just straight up awful or are there redeeming qualities that make it worth watching?
>Do I need to watch Revelations to watch Revolution?
Not really. In the first episode, He-Man's secret identity is revealed. At the end, Skeletor gets turned into a cyborg by Motherboard, a Horde sleeper agent. Evil-Lyn destroyed the afterlife heroes go to.
>Is Revelation just straight up awful or are there redeeming qualities that make it worth watching?
It's awful in a few different ways whenever Teela is on screen, unfortunately.