This was such a love letter to the fandom that it's confusing to realize they didn't kick Kevin Smith out between seasons.
Masters of the Universe: Revolution
This was such a love letter to the fandom that it's confusing to realize they didn't kick Kevin Smith out between seasons.
Did Orko mating press Lyn yet?
>Did Orko mating press Lyn yet?
No, sadly. They seem to have forgotten how much in love they looked when he first came back as Orko the White.
Damn
He was busy this season making sure nobody killed Gwildor.
So he could do it himself, possibly.
Still not watching it, shill.
Why is it so hard to believe that other people can genuinely like things you don't?
Why is it so hard for you shills to not understand that no one wants to watch this garbage after how bad Revelation was? Are you genuinely moronic or Netflix is paying you? have a nice day.
Kevin Smiths He-Man has numerous senpaitachi. The Revolutions cartoon has proven to be a positive impact to Mattels toy sales. A ne generation of young kids are learning about MOTU and the 80's Genertion now adults are rediscovering He-Man .
No one cares shill
Lots of people care. Stop being gay
>A ne generation of young kids are learning about MOTU
Nu-Ra already accomplished that.
>Nu-Ra already accomplished that.
Is it so much to ask that kids learn about He-Man as well as She-Ra?
Then Mattel should have splurged and paid for more episodes. I remember when Hasbro released the first season of Lauren Faust's take on [redacted], there were 26 episodes. The entire MOTU: R_____ experiment gets only 20 in total. That's not enough room to have a fairly large cast, tell a sprawling epic story, AND do enough characterization to make new-to-the-franchise viewers care about the characters. Cringer barely gets to do anything and he's meant to be Adam's best friend. Hell, if I was a newbie I might not even understand the concept "Cowardly Cringer gets turned into battle-loving Battlecat."
Mattel should have come up with a way to have more episodes.
Lmao Faust's show didn't NEED all that many episodes to hook up the audience, neither did the original He-Man.
OG He-Man came out in a very different world.
Let us be brutally honest: a huge part of why it became BIG was the lack of competition. What was it up against? The decade-old Superfriends? The mouldering corpse of "Tarzan and the Lone Ranger"? The Tom & Jerry Show? Okay, there was Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends, but that didn't have much in the way of toys. Then He-Man landed with a toyline unlike anything else on the shelves and a whopping 65 episodes in the first season.
You can't make a new generation - who has a lot more options for things to watch - care about He-Man with a measly 20 episodes spread out over three years. Mattel went cheap and blew their chance to build a new fanbase.
This is one of the most logical arguments i've read. Mattel Toys also had the funding and success from Barbie and Hot Wheels , Marvel was still building it's brand in the comic book industry , not focused on making toys, they had some but not a lot. Kids liked He-Man because it was the newest thing next to Star Wars, DC Comics, and Marvel Comics.
It's sad that Mattel decided to make two cartoons and a movie, but were unable to finish the movie thanks to the writers strike, and didn't make either cartoon very long. Lofty goals no followthrough.
I dunno when He-Man started showing where I lived, it was more or less at the same time as all the big toy commercials everybody loved. Even Dungeons & Dragons, which is generally loved and also didn't need a lot of episodes to catch the audience's eye or tell compelling stories with great characters.
He-Man and the D&D cartoon came out the same month, but He-Man had a lot more episodes and toys for the kids. There really wasn't anything that could stand toe-to-toe with it as competition. When stuff like Transformers and GI Joe started showing up He-Man was no longer Big King Nobodyfrickswithme. These days there's a lot of competition.
>It didn't need a lot of episodes
You can say that, but it had a LOT of episodes. Frankly if there were only 20 He-Man episodes spread out from 1983-1986, similar to Netflix's schedule, I doubt the franchise would have been remotely as successful.
Transformers and GI Joe did things right, and they knew kids weren't going to stay young and made movies for when they would understand them more when older.
Well, no. Transformers and GI Joe had movies to kill off older wave characters to replace with the newer waves of action figures without realizing what a stupid thing they were doing, and had to backpedal in some capacity. Hasbro should have learned from those mistakes, but they still repeat them from time to time.
In my country they mostly repeat like 20 episodes over and over, and frankly the time for He-Man, Thundercats, G.I.Joe, D&D, Smurfs etc meshes together, it wasn't exactly a competition, kids just followed all of those because they were good.
Hell here's a better example, Sectaurs were an absolute hit when they were the shiny new cartoon and toy collection, and that's with five fricking episodes. I could point when the same thing happened with Inhumanoids, but I don't think the toyline was released here.
I still enjoy the 1986 animated Transformers movie. Favorite characters like Iron Hide get shot in the head, Optimus Prime defeats Megaton but succumbs to his wounds and dies a hero. Ultra Magnus replaces Prime as leader of the Autobots, he also dies also but is fixed and brought back immediately. The bad guy who I hated was Starscream, and he get's completely blown away by Galvatron... Then there was Unicrron, a Giantt Palanet who also Transforms into a giant Robot. All this and a Heavy Metal soundtrack, Transformers the Movie was genius, The He-Man cartoon remained lame....and gay.
I liked Sectaurs also. Many cartoon had good first 5 episodes while the rest were filler crap. As far as Transformer and GI, yes the older wave of character were indeed killed off to make room for new toys, and that's why I like them more as an adult. Hasbro openly admits they killed them for new toys, while Disney will never admit to killing Han, Luke, and Leia for the same reasons.
I was born in 1990 it was so surreal seeing the reverence for G1 Transformers in a time travel plot in Beast Wars without seeing G1 as a kid.
All I can say is Beast Wars had cool toys, but it was for your Generation . I think Hasbro knew kids who watched G1 were getting old already. I also think of Beast wars as an alternate universe to G1.
I think at the time the writers had no idea what they were doing because they weren't fans of G1 but did a lot of research, but in pre Internet days they only had G2 comics and fan's input to go off of. Like the Vok were said by pne writer to be The Swarm but it was never confirmed. So yeah basically it was.
Beast Wars frickin kilked G1 prime again too, its funny to think how much different but similar to Kevin Smith's He-Man all this was in hindsught.
I doubt we'll ever get a spinoff from an 80's franchise asdifferent and risky but actually really well written ever again
Beast Wars has my respect, but again it's not the G1 Transformers I watched as a kid. 200x He-Man has my respect to, but it's really not the 80's He-Man i loved as a kid and grew to hate after 100 episodes. Revelations is the 80's He-Man that finally grew up and caught up to my age group.
There's so many people who praise 200x He-Man, but many of those kids who liked that show were not around for 80's He-Man. Revelation is not 200x He-Man. Same with Michael Bay's Transformers, it's not G1 Transformers, it's very much an alternate to G1 . You can also say 60's TV Batman is not Nolan Batman, but Kevin Smiths Batman 66 Comic Book is a continuation of TV Batman. Mattel/Netflix hired Kevin in part because he did a good job woth Batman 66.
Dude your country doesn't matter. A big part of why He-Man INITIALLY became big was a lack of competition on toyshelves and TV. It didn't die off immediately once things like Transformers showed up, but it would have had a harder time getting a foothold if those properties had been around first.
The biggest problem is absolute lore homosexualry thinking every thing needs to be an ongoing narrative in general. He-man was made as an episodic adventure of the week toy commercial. Every cartoon then was. That some of them even ever had lore was a nice bonus and only made to make the toys more interesting.
(1) There was lore in the original series. Never explored to fruition, but "Teela is the Sorceress' daughter" was there from the start. "Skeletor has some (obvious) tie to Randor's long-lost-brother" was part of OG lore too (added after the show, but still something the fandom just accepted). (2) If you've only got 20 eps you may as well try to tell a couple really big epic stories with an ongoing narrative. (3) The biggest problem was that there's a big cast (Adam, Teela, Orko, Duncan, Cringer, Andra, Randor, Marlena, Skeletor, Evil-Lyn, Beast Man, Tri-klops, etc. etc. etc.) without enough screentime for new fans to get attached.
>The Revolutions cartoon has proven to be a positive impact to Mattels toy sales.
OR it's just the fact they're releasing toys people want.
OR You can stop acting Gay
Will you still suck me off though? (No homo.)
>senpaitachi
Care to use english
Hi kevin
Then... Is it true that when Kevin really wants to write something good, does he?
What motivated him to "want to do things right"?
A lot of money or something else?
It's weird watching it. The whole thing feels more like a toy commercial than the 80s version did. Doesn't even seem like they'd use storyboards for it, just one of the writers sitting there with the action figures going "And then He-Man rides up and *click* the Battle Damage plate gets fixed. "
oh no, my nostalgia bait revival of an 80s toy commercial cartoon itself looks like a toy commercial? How could this happen?
>Thinks that was a complaint
It was more an observation.
>The whole thing feels more like a toy commercial than the 80s version did.
See I thought there was a good balance. You got variant designs everywhere but there was good explanation for the most part.
The toys and the story behind the toys is far more interesting than the Battle for Eternia. Not saying I don't enjoy this latest story arc where Eternia is becoming a Democratic-Republic. I'm hoping we get President of Eternia Action figures.
They already lost me after the first two parts, and having read the full spoilers I see literally nothing that appeals to me enough to give them another chance.
Mattel Executives and the writers of the DC Comics He-Man series also worked on it. It was aimed at the now 45 and plus years of age who were once the kids who watched it.
Frick off.
Buy an ad or have a nice day. Preferably the second one.
Well a lot of the early complaints were really moronic. Not that it was particularly good, but guys going around acting like He-Man would give up his role to Teela were dumb as shit.
There were so many tell signs the people who hated on Revelations were Millennials.
So, do you guys work from home or is there a 9-to-5 shilling room where you hang out while you post here? Do you guys get to see Kevin crying in person?
Yet they did pull the same "Take He-man out of commission while the girls do the action that really saves the day" formula that the previous shows did. And He-man "giving up the power" dismantling the monarchy so new brown lady can run for leader of eternia was pretty cringe too.
There's a pretty big difference between believing
"The story will include a bit where He-Man is temporarily out of commission and the girls do stuff that saves the day"
and believing
"The story will include Adam retires to give his hero duties to Teela who is a better hero than him (and she's now a lesbian)."
And yet people really did believe that nonsense when it was reported as a "leak."
There was nothing in the show to contradict it and the audience had absolutely no goodwill to spare, and speaking of which there's still no fricking goodwill. Starting Nu-He-Man off with a big fat rug pull was the worst creative mistake in Kevin Smith's career.
PS. All the fricking women still look like drag queens.
>The belief that He-Man would retire and hand over his mantle to a lesbian Teela that would do the job better was justified
No, it was a really fricking stupid thing to believe.
>The women look like drag queens
If you see this and "drag queen" is what comes to mind, you're hopelessly psychologically damaged.
Looks like shrunk He-man with lipstick.
The muscular women design is not Kevin Smith's choice, he's not an illustrator, his roots and strengths are dialogue writing and talking about pop cultures comics and movies.
It's still shitty treatment of the franchise to do the same and now tired "let's make a powered down Prince Adam sit impotently and wait to be saved by the girls" plot point in every season of the show followed up by a "He-man and Skeletor punch eachother while Teela and Evil Lynn do the stuff that really saves the day"
They'll say it's about He-man all day long, but He-man goes through the same "lose the power, regain the power" plot each season and meanwhile Teela gets her arc to becoming the most powerful Sorceress and Evil Lynn gets her redemtion arc becoming a Cosmic Enforcer. Even new brown girl gets her arc from some nobody to Man-at-Arms to future president of Eternia arc.
They clearly made this show all about the lady characters with just enough He-man smashing things to pretend it's a He-man cartoon.
There were stumbles but you're acting like it was a deliberate attempt to rape your childhood.
Concept: Adam is dead very temporarily, which (1) ends the secret identity and forces people to deal with things the original series never addressed, (2) temporarily puts the focus on some of the MOTU supporting characters, and (3) highlights Adam's importance by showing that the world falls apart without He-Man.
Execution: Shit.
Concept: Not an intentional insult to He-Man and the MOTU fanbase. Possibly even had potential.
With that in mind it's not surprising that the crew could regroup, learn some lessons from the early mistakes, and improve the show.
>you're acting like it was a deliberate attempt to rape your childhood.
Weird how people assume malice when they're merely promised one thing and delivered the exact specific opposite. When you feel cheated, and all evidence looks like you've been cheated, can't you simply assume good faith like a rube?
They wanted to give He-Man's One True Love some big stuff to do. They overdid it.
And copy 200x's Evil Lynn not being as evil as she would have you believe plot point. And copy Robot Chicken's Good Lynn joke. Honestly surprised they didn't have Orko summon the He-man strength.
>One true love
Do people really think that Teela X Andra wasn't the original pairing before the backlash?
> But guys going around acting like He-Man would give up his role to Teela were dumb as shit.
>During a time when a lot of male heroes were getting switched out for the girl versions.
>Do the first He-Man show in years and kill him off to focus on Teela.
>Giving Teela the "feminist haircut" and an apparent black girlfriend.
Sounds justifiable to me.
Don't know what "heroes switched out" you're talking about, but I'm confident they're nothing important or lasting enough to justify the moronation of thinking He-Man was going to go "take my job Teela, you and your new lesbian girlfriend can do it better!"
>apparent girlfriend
Bud, that's you bringing your own baggage. There was nothing to imply that in the preview material, and when the eps were out they made it obvious as FRICK that Teela was carrying a torch for He-Man. Literally said as much.
>sounds justifiable to me
Well you were completely wrong, so treat this as a learning experience and try to be smarter in future.
>N..Nuh-uh!
Well, alright then.
Just to be clear, you were literally incorrect, by large margins, and are trying to spin it as "but I COULD have been right!" rather than just admit you believed something daft.
Did I say anything about being correct about it? I did not. I said people were justified in thinking it would happen.
And Revelations ended up being bad and flopped anyway, so it's not like they owned the haters. Hell, the "haters" got what they wanted with Revolution. Big Ls all around for Revelation.
>they were justified
No. They were not. They were not wrong by a small amount, the were wrong across the board by large amounts. He-Man did not step down, He-Man did not hand his job over to Teela, and Teela did not turn gay. Instead we've got Adam very proudly staying as He-Man with Teela as his gal.
>Hell, the "haters" got what they wanted with Revolution.
Anon, Revelation is the same thing. It's season 2 with a fancy name, following plot threads set up by season 1. The "haters" were people that couldn't display the patience to see where the story was going.
Yes. AThey were. You're dumb.
>Revelation is the same thing
Yeah, a piece of shit that puts Teela and Evil Lyn in the front and center and literally has a scene where He-man tells Skeletor that the conflict(story) "isn't about us".
>N-Nuh uh!
Well, alright then.
>Revelation is the same thing.
Hey, what was the main focus of Revolution was? He-Man and Skeletor.
What did people want in Revelations that were pushed to the side for Teela and Evil-Lyn? He-Man and Skeletor.
>Muh plot threads!
Largely left in Teela's B plot and the biggest one affecting He-Man's plot is the heckin' Horde and the big robot chick getting killed off-screen.
Again, big L.
Just to be clear, you were literally a homosexual, by large margins, and are trying to spin it as "but I COULD have been right!" rather than just admit you are a homosexual.
>imagine someone saying "this didn't happen but I can see why people would believe it could happen" and just screeching "reeeee! you were wrong!" over and over like an autistic child
"I can see why people would believe it could happen"? Well sure. I have no trouble understanding why they would think that would happen. They were very very stupid. So stupid that they honestly thought Mattel would sign off on He-Man hanging up his sword and giving the job to Teela, who is now gay.
But I'll admit to being surprised that there were more than just a handful of people so jawdroppingly stupid that they honestly thought Mattel would do that.
You're stupid. Stupid and gay. I bet you have a penis in your mouth right now, don't you? You big gay-bo.
>I have no trouble understanding why they would think that would happen. They were very very stupid.
You seem to be having trouble understanding because you just ignore all the reasons and claim the reason is just "stupidity on their part"
Biggest of Ls.
>t-take the L!
Go back to Twitter and have a nice day.
Disney benched all the Marvel guys for the sake of their female replacements.
Amazon turned Galadriel into a sword fighting c**t and shafted every male character
Disney, again, put Rey on front and centre of their new trilogy shafting the nigcel so hard he was reduced in Chinese posters.
Finn the Human got shafted in his own show.
Mattel doing dumb shit with He-man sounds like a safe prediction
>Disney benched all the Marvel guys for the sake of their female replacements
Jane Foster took over Thor's job for a shorter time than Thunderstrike in the comics. Laura's tenure as the one-and-only-Wolverine lasted as long as a sneezing fit, Logan's not going anywhere. Hawkeye and Hawkeye share the title. You could maybe make an argument with Carol taking the name Captain Marvel, but the original's been dead for decades, he didn't get MORE benched because of her. There's a pretty big difference between a quick gimmick replacement that doesn't last (or a "we'll share the name" situation for that matter) and "He-Man retires so Teela can do the job better than him."
>Well you see, Rey
Stop. Rey the clear Jedi in the first movie continuing to outshine Finn is not comparable to He-Man retiring to give the job to Teela.
>Finn the human
You're really stretching if you're trying to argue that the messy "everyone gets to help, kinda" Adventure Time finale that resulted from them trying to slap together a finale after a decade of continuous production is comparable to Mattel bringing back He-Man after 20 years only to have him retire and give Teela his job
You want to dislike the first season? Get in line. You want to argue that it made sense for people to think Mattel would bring back their cashcow only to have him retire and give the job to a now-lesbian Teela? No, that doesn't make a lick of sense. It's dumb.
I like Shang Chi, I just wish Jet Li was still young enough to play him, or if Brandon Lee were still alive, because Stan Lee himself wanted Brandon Lee for that role
Lesbian Teela and the Masters of the Universe toyline would not go well with Mattel Shareholders either.
>Yes, all the heroes got replaced.
>But you're wrong thinking it wouldn't happen to He-Man because...reasons.
OK then.
OK then.
>Replaced
Logan is Wolverine and Thor's a dude.
Source: the most recent comics and movies.
Indeed they would not.
>the most recent comics and movies
That's lovely, doesn't apply to what I've been saying.
It really does though. Because "Thor got replaced by a woman" was a short gimmick, like Lightning Superman, and there was a conga-line of anons waiting to tell the outrage patrol that it wouldn't last any more than Jean Gray being dead (again).
"Mattel would TOTALLY agree to have their big-name hero get animated for the first time in 20 years just to have him say a woman could do his job better, and stand aside to pass the job off to her (also it's Teela and she's a lesbian now), and as proof of how likely that is I'd like to point to the brief tenure of FemThor (please don't pay attention to the fact that it didn't last)" - a very silly thing to say.
Again, that is lovely, but you're just making up your argument to argue against yourself. You're boxing your own shadow.
I've been saying that people are justified in thinking they were gonna replace He-Man due to all the shit going on leading to its release.
The hero coming back does not negate the fact that the replacement happened in the first place. People still had to sit through that, you silly boy.
>I've been saying that people are justified in thinking they were gonna replace He-Man due to all the shit going on leading to its release.
I'm frankly bewildered by your inability to grasp why it was pants-on-head-moronic to think Mattel would bring back animated He-Man after TWENTY YEARS just to have him retire and hand the sword over to a suddenly-lesbian Teela.
>But Thor
Thor has been in near-nonstop publication since 1962. There's been the occasional gimmick, because it's damn hard to keep coming up with new material for that long without occasionally shaking things up and going "uhhh... some dude with a mullet is Thor now." Comic fans should know better than to think that kind of gimmick would last, and they should definitely know better than to think it's comparable to bringing back an animated He-Man just to replace him. There is no excuse for going online and saying "my God it's true, they brought back He-Man (the face of what used to be a billion-dollar franchise) after all these years just to replace him with a woman!" Mattel is a stupid company but not THAT stupid.
>Mattel doing dumb shit with He-man sounds like a safe prediction
Which turned out, as usual, to be true, btw.
Mattel already did dumb shit with He-Man, they just never stopped. My memory is hazy but:
>Pivot their entire toyline to girls with She-Ra
>Waste all their money on the movie so that's partly why they stopped the toys
>New Adventures of He-Man, He-Man didn't even look like He-Man and no one even
>200x was fine but when stores asked for more He-Man toys Matrel thought they meant the character so shelves were clogged with He-Man variations that tanked the line and got the show cancelled
>MOTU Classics Scott and their shit website
>Using She-ra is a legal nightmare
>Nu SheRa
>Kevin Smith
>CGI was OKish for kids apparently but they cancelled it
>New movie was cancelled
>Origin toys are now website exclusive only and they literally won't ship anything to Canada
Kevin Smith is a positive
Yeah an HIV positive.
Are you utterly new to Cinemaphile material or just doing the good ol' playing dumb bit?
Gwildor looks cringe and should die next.
have a nice day Kevin
Smith has SOME good writing instincts, but he'll also listen to a voice in his head with bad ideas.
Would love to actually discuss the season though and not argue about Smith and shit.
Honestly from that first battle onward I found this season charming, even if there wasn't much depth.
Man, the viewer numbers for this must be absolute dogshit if they're resorting to aggressively shilling on this of all sites.
>Would love to actually discuss the season though and not argue about Smith and shit.
Go somewhere else then.
Still in the top 10.
>Anyone talking about something I dislike is shilling
ok.
True you know it's shills because there's still no mega
I just use this https://www.wcostream.tv/anime/masters-of-the-universe-revolution
>Honestly from that first battle onward I found this season charming, even if there wasn't much depth.
The Scare Glow battle? I thought it got so much better after that, peaking with Hordak's fight.
What can I say? Seeing He-Man fighting alongside his dad and old faves like Orko and Rio was fun.
I know nothing about this show. Is it worth watching at all?
Revelation is choppy to say the least. Some good shit, some pretty dogshit shit, but nicely animated throughout and there WERE fun moments. It's easier in one go, breaking it up into two halves just soured people even more on the rough moments in the first eps.
Then it progresses into Revolution which is very near pure kino. I've seen few actual complaints about it. I'd say so far it's looking like the payoff is worth it.
Revelations is a right mess. Revolution is better, but you have to go through the hot mess of Revelations to get Teela's B plot.
>Teela and Evil Lyn and the Masters of the Universe and Knuckles
Not surprising. The second half of Revelations was honestly good. It's really just the first half of Revelations that was so fricking shitty.
It's exactly the same as Revelation
You're just moronic
>Asked what fans could expect from their next trip to Eternia, Biaselli asserted, “This is a story that’s going to explore what it means to be He-Man when a new responsibility falls on Adam.”
>“I think it’s really interesting to explore what it’s like when, as an adult, you know what you want to do, and your parents also have expectations for you,” he elaborated. “How do you reconcile with that?”
>Then making what can only be described as a Hail Mary for fan attention, Biaselli then answered his own question, “We do it with an eye towards making sure fans know that He-Man is in three-and-a-half or four out of the five episodes.”
>“He is He-Man in the show!” he ultimately exclaimed.
So there you have it. Nothing to worry about, the main character is gonna be present in, oh, about 70% of the episodes of his own show. No mention in what capacity or for how many minutes. You can rest assured that only about a third of this supposed He-Man show's eps will have zero He-Man in them. Case closed!
There were no episodes with no He-Man.
>those Orko eyes
>he hasn't seen Orko's face yet
NTA, and haven't seen Revelation either, but... do they actually show it?
A quick google search only gave me fanart
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I just liked Shatner and Hamill doing Gollum and Smeagol.
Shatner's a surprisingly damn good VA when they aren't telling him to do an exaggerated impersonation of what people think Kirk sounds like.
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It's heartbreaking that we can't get more animated Adam West Batman.
>When that...mechanical maiden...put - the squeeze on OUR brain...SOMETHING SNAPPED!
Shatnerdor was absolutely amazing.
None of the casual fans saw the concept of what is Revelations. In the Bible Revelations is about the final tribulation of mankind before Christs return. The Book of Revelations is about great turmoil and disaster, it's World War 4 type of stuff with a Battle so huge it causes something like a sea of blood.
MOTUR Revelation is no where as grand as the Bible, but what they did was give theUniverse and Eternia World a tribulation period where He-Man dies and Magic becomes scarce. The Teela Swtich revolved around restoring Magic to Eternia. While Teela does not appear to be miserable, she's drastically changed after the death of He-Man. What the casual fans eyes saw was she turned lesbian, because casual fans are moronic.
Revelations might have benefited from a narrator that would explain after the death of He-Man, Teela grieves in her own way, off on her own helping those in need during these times of darkness. Yet hope is not all lost, unknown to Teela, is a way for He-Man to return from death.and there is a power in her blood that has not been revealed to her.
Revelations is one of the laziest hack red flag subtitles there is. It was flashing a warning sign just from being called that alone.
Man, must suck to be a MOTU fan that just wants to talk about the show and couldn't give a frick about endless arguments about behind-the-scenes shit or whether or not people were right to believe things that didn't happen.
Aw frick, I'M a MOTU fan that just wants to talk about the show and couldn't give a frick about endless arguments about behind-the-scenes shit or whether or not people were right to believe things that didn't happen.
>he whined impotently instead of talking about the show
>When you're just glad that people are talking about He-Man and She-Ra again, even if it's like this
Which show is the most Gay? The 60's Batman TV Show or 80's He-Man Cartoon?
80's He-Man... but Burt Ward's shorts don't eactly help 60's Batman case
He-Man. Both were campy, but Adam West had more tongue in-cheek hetero innuendo with the women.
Don't get me wrong, both had reasons to make people go "that's kinda gay."
The real 80's kids were not idiots, they watched He-Man for a couple years, then as they aged they realized the He-Man show was gay, not He-Man himself but the overall lameness of the show was gay. and many 80's kids grew to hate He-Man.
Kevin Smith was more of an 80's teen than a kid, he loved cartoons but hate-watched He-Man during the afternoon broadcast cartoon programming blocks of the 80's. Monday thru Friday 2:pm to 5:pm we sat thru cartoons we hated waiting for our favorite cartoons to play later.
>No true 80s kid
Nah, there was She-Ra at the time. Bow having a heart right front and center of his armor made everything in MotU look manlier in contrast.
>Because "Thor got replaced by a woman" was a short gimmick
b***h that was like, four years at least?
Even for people actually liked that, there was that last movie that went so well.
She-Ra played in part to destroy the franchise. Good character, but really really lame show. Males that like She-Ra turned Gay.
Thank heavens She-Ra was the only gay thing about He-Man fandom.
Bad haircut Teela was only a short phase. The new April O'Neil is so much worse
Teela is a b***h they had to backpedal whole character of just like Amber
>Backpedal
Making Teela b***hy as the world went Mad Max after Adam died was a bad idea, but season 1 ended with her knocking that off. There was no backpedaling with her personality, that was how the story was meant to go.
Sure thing, Kevin.
I'm sorry your media literacy sucks so badly that a scene of her and Adam hanging out and staring at one another with literal fireworks in the background wasn't enough to tip you off that they were moving away from angry-bitchy Teela in the direction of romantic-interest Teela.
And I'm sorry you're just moronic. Let me put it simply. It doesn't matter that they FIXED their mistake. They never should have done it in the first place and nobody owes you an apology or praise for cleaning up the mess you made to start with.
>It doesn't matter that they fixed it
Don't say "they backpedaled" when it was clearly the plan all along. The first part of the plan was stupid and unenjoyable, but they'd dropped "bitchy Teela that yells at Adam" by the end of Revelation. They didn't need to backpedal, they stuck to the plan, which was always to have her revert to the nice gal that likes Adam.
>The first part of the plan was stupid and unenjoyable
You've inspired the next idea for my patent drawer - a shit-flavored tootsie roll tootsie pop. It'll be worth it when you get to the center, I swear.
The whole plan was to put Teela thru a transitional phase and resolve the 40 year old plotline of her power to beome the Sorceress. The b***h phase was only temporary, there was no forced back pedaling. There was no plan for a permanent b***h/ bad haircut Teela. Why would a toy company make just 1 Teela figurre also? Revalations showed 3 designs, Classic, b***h, and Sorceress Teela, that's 3 Action figures to sell! Even with Andra we have Black Andra, later on we could get classic white Amdra. If your over 45 years old Mattel makes sense, but to 13 to 25 Year olds, or just moronic at any age, Netflix is Gay.
The shill must be getting paid double of their usual salary if they've been defending this shitshow since last night.
Remember when Bruce Wayne burned down Wayne Manor with plans to re-do the foundation and make it better? That's what Kevin Smith did by temp killing He-Man , burnt him down to rebuild him make his show better.
>Kevin burnt down He-Man.
>It flopped.
Welp.
What did fans expect?
He-Man is back YAY!. Ooh look Skelator is back Yay! Fight scene with swords and magic and stuff, big explosions and He-Man wins, Skeletor survives to fight another day! Yay! repeat for 100 more episodes.
Yes.
for 100 Episodes?? You are a fricking moron.
>revive show
>Don't make it like the show people remember because you're an uncreative hack who can't make something actually new and needs to leech off established IP and are trying to appeal to binge watching mush heads who will forget the new show ever came out by the following weekend.
You're the moron. The only reason we're even having a show to reboot is because the old one lasted in people's brains. It's format worked. Yours didn't.
Revalation made profits for Mattel Toys, it did work and now there's 2nd season
People still buy MCU and DCEU toys, but no one's watching capeshit post-Endgame.
Shang Chi and Guardians of the Galaxy are post End-Game and were well received. only Low IQ idiots would keep repeated using the words "no one watches ----"
SHILL thread
Shilling used to be subtle
I'm at the point where I truly believe if the franchise is being rebooted, it will not be written for past generations of fans, but the new generations
We're going to get to that point soon. I don't think the 80s reboots, reimagings and sequels have much longer to go, because zoomers have no attachment to that period. They don't even care about the 90s all that much.
This blatant astroturfing from corpos trying to convince people to watch their garbage is baffling to me. You can instantly tell when a shill makes a thread, they have the exact same scripts every single time. They praise whatever given show they're paid to praise in the most artificial way possible, they belittle anyone that has reasonable complaints/criticisms, they act like it's such a HUGE SUCCESS despite obvious evidence to the contrary, and once the show flops they pretend none of this happened and move on to the next show. You'll never see said show talked about again except for the occasional thread where everyone that's left agree that it sucked.
This song and dance happens so fricking often now, and I'm just left asking why. This poor attempt at gaslighting fools absolutely no one. You'd think it'd be easier to just make a show people would actually LIKE, and have discussion grow organically from there.