‘Matrix 5’ in the Works With Drew Goddard as Director, Lana Wachowski as Executive Producer
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/matrix-5-lana-wachowski-executive-producing-1235959174/
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Why?
Because they never made anything else worthwhile so they endlessly revisit it to chase that high
I don't think they even necessarily wanted to make the last one, I think it was more the studio pushing for it
>chase that high
The ketamine fueled bondage lifestyle wasn't enough?
this is something that hits diminishing returns very quickly, yes.
They literally say in the 4th matrix movie that the studio was going to make it with or without their involvement
they lied you schmuck
>They literally say in the 4th matrix movie that the studio was going to make it with or without their involvement
nah
They could've taken their distances from it and say it was consumer dogshit by hollywood, but they didn't, in other words, they were lying.
I remember V for Vendetta being good but even then it's been 2 decades since a good wachowski film
frick that marxist pos
also they only shared writing there
I liked Speed Racer, but you gotta be in the mood to watch a kids movie. It is actually a stunning and well put together movie. It came out a week after Iron Man. So... that's also 16 years old at this point.
>Because they never made anything else worthwhile
Dune, barbie, godzilla franchise, the batman are big hits for WB oh and wonka. They don't need the troony I.P.
V for Vendetta, Speed Racer, and Cloud Atlas are all excellent movies (though you have to stomach leftism in V4V and humanism in CA)
based Cloud Atlas appreciator. It's definitely overlooked
WB is desperate to be disney so they are just throwing shit at the wall like matrix and harry potter expanded universes.
Personally i think they should just make a live action animatrix
>Why?
because Warner Brothers said so
The previous one wasn't a big enough humiliation ritual, they can do better.
>Matrix 4 exists
I'm honestly baffled
gross
this is the only reason I have the slightest infinitesimal glimmer of hope
Goddard is a capeshit maker.
how does that give you hope? that's basically just saying the studio wants to milk an IP it owns for all its worth, just like every other major studio the last 20 years
Why? The story of Matrix ended with three. This wouldn't be canon and is continuing from the purposefully moronic fourth movie. It's just a cashgrab attached to a recognizable name.
they're shooting for 9
and the last 3 will have a complete revisionist reboot
didn't george used to claim he had a 12 parts vision
IMO the story ended with 1. It was fine as is, and the next three were just shit.
>The story of Matrix ended with three
The Matrix ended with the first one, the other two (and the games if you want) are just for flavor.
The Matrix is nothing without the Wachowshis. I have no interest in some. hack's take on the series, it'll be boring and uninteresting. Say what you want about the Matrix sequels but at least they were something different.
I can tell Matrix 5 will be like the End of Evangelion, where people got filtered by the original anime ending and they ended up making something for the dumber fans.
resurrections was only """good""" because there still was a wachowski at the helm, what's the fricking point of making another one
>resurrections
>good
>good in quotes
>implying putting something in quotes means implying
alright, i'm now implying that you're a dumb homosexual
Then say it's bad, you mealy-mouthed little worm.
no, i want to piss you off
Resurrections was dogshit and the wachowskis were not the secret sauce. It was the creative team: Bill Pope DOP, that long haired CGI dude, and Don Davis. None of the motherfrickers returned and we got megaslop.
It is OVER and will never not be over.
if we are bound to get endless slop then i will rather get it from the original directors rather than from suits that have literal nothing to do with first movies
The first three movies exist because of suit megaisraelite Joel Silver.
Hollywood was so based when israelites made movies. Now it's filled with woke millennials who make trash.
Bill Pope DOP, that long haired CGI dude, and Don Davis would have done jackshit without the Wachowski vision
way to be a controversial yous wanting prick now
Know? I think we'll need a Director's Cut of The Matrix Resurrections like Zack Snyder's Justice League.
Also the awesome hong kong stunt team that people seem to forget invented all the cool action scenes.
They didn't learn their lesson with 4?
was the fourth one even successful?
With a few gay dudes on the fast track to becoming statistics, yes, for everyone else, no
>was the fourth one even successful?
that seems foolish
yeah, village roadshow sued wb for it
>Village Roadshow sued in February, alleging that Warner Bros. had sabotaged the film’s box office revenue in order to boost the streaming service.
>it wasn't bad, it's just that everyone chose to watch it for free!
>no, we're not going to tell you how many people chose to watch it for free, have sex incel.
Is this one of those things where they're just keeping the rights to the IP
It doesn't matter. If they don't greenlight it, then it's transphobic. We'd rather blow $100 million than have some bad press.
Why are you inventing things to be mad about?
it came out around covid on straight to streaming.
stop it
I enjoyed the first half of Resurrections.
same. too bad it turned into boring capeshit
Lol at all the Cinemaphile dorks who said resurrections was bad on purpose to kill the franchise
>Everyone hates it
>Massive bomb
>Has not become a subsequent sleeper hit or achieved cult status
>"Let's make another"
Why?
Tax writeoff
That's not how tax write offs work
Hollywood just loves burning money
Honestly, because Zaslav wants to squeeze every last bit of juice out of all the franchises that WB owns.
it made no money because it was on hbo a week later you idiot.
sounds like cope
This is strange. Did anyone like Resurrections?
I thought it had some good ideas, but didn't seem put together correctly. It's a definite 5/10 movie.
Why would that matter? People haven't liked a matrix movie since the first one and that hasn't stopped WB
Those other two, while shit, at least made money.
Mike Stoklasa and Jay Bauman loved it. It was one of their favorite movies next to Halloween Ends.
Are Keanu and Carrie gonna go along with it? Like, when Fishburne and Weaving checked the frick out of the last one, you can definitely see what the writing on the wall was going to be. Like, if the last one was the absolute biggest shitshow to come out and was literally forgotten about three weeks later, what hope in hell does this have?
god why
literally just come up with something new
anything
Great, 4 was kino
The Animatrix wasn't very good. Including that segment you like. Same for the games while we're at it (all of them).
It's one great film, then some great action scenes in some bad sequels. It's not a setting/universe.
Animatrix was kino, probably the best animated feature since 'Fantasia' and ominously predictive programming. To combat global warming, the wienersucker with the man-breasts Bill Gates proposed using nanomachines pumped into our atmosphere to lessen the sunlight. As for the video games, people still talk about the original Matrix Online to this day, Enter the Matrix was clunky with its camera and targeting system but was an amazing game to weave in separate scenes and characters not prominently featured in the movie fantastically. Path of Neo was a masterpiece desperately in need of a remaster.
Oh good
Matrix is dead anyway might as well give it the Star Wars treatment
I'm not going to shill Reloaded to anyone anymore. It's just a movie I enjoy.
troonyism is truly destructive.
Meh... you can only rape the corpse so many times. I have no desire to see more woke israeli troony horseshit.
why don't they work together anymore
having to look at each other and see the pathetic mockery they are of natures perfection
Resurrections was at least self aware that it was a shitty cash grab i wonder if it will be more meta if not then there is no point.
>it's meta so it's good
single-digit IQ take
The meta shit only worked because it was directed by the same person who directed all the other movies. If it was some new director coming in and saying "hahaha Hollywood is shit now and WB is creatively bankrupt" it would just feel annoying.
out of all the stories/settings that took the postmodern wink-wink meta route, The Matrix is quite possibly the worst choice.
the Narnia kids going through another cupboard to find out they were all in some books, or Sherlock Holmes meeting Arthur Conan Doyle to complain the stories about the stories about him were DOUBLE exaggerated, something like that.
Matrix shills said the Wachowskis intentionally made M4 bad so WB couldn't do another one. Turns out Matrix 4 was just bad.
The Matrix is the only good movie
I'm certain the only reason they are doing this is to ruin Neo's Character like they ruined Indiana Jones and Luke Skywalker
No way. They gave him a happy ending in 4
Please stop
imagine catching word that there are internet jokes about how you never age, then ageing just like anyone else.
I watched Speed again recently (great movie) and he looks exactly the same.
hes got asian genes where they age slowly but hit 50 and look like granpa. Its happening to kelly hu as we speak. Keanu still looks better than the zoomer homosexuals they're pushing to be the new action stars.
I always like Reeves despite him being mediocre actor at best, but thanks to redditors I started to hate him recently, there's only so much wholesome chungus good guy Keanu I can stomach
I am sure he's a nice guy but god, shut the frick up
Just don’t go to reddit.
I don't, but reddit leaks everywhere
Reddit is a metaphysical substance, it leaks into people's souls. If there were a blacklight that detects reddit you would find it on the hands and mouths of people who have never even used the internet. Reddit is a cancer, a murrain.
THERE WILL BE NO NEW IDEAS
>Drew Goddard
Couldn't remember the guy. Went to check his filmography.
Not a single redeemable flick under his belt. A fitting end for Matrix.
Why? The sequels and whatever that fricking troony one with TV tier fx were godawful.
Will Red Letter Media shill for this one too?
yes
oh god people have actually arranged (their own) nerd-themed funerals, haven't they?
i'm sure they were actually very public too. please share some pictures/links Cinemaphile.
>caring what they think
want to be friends, anon?
the action and set-pieces of 4 were so boring. 1's realistic fighting was great, in a kung-fu kind of way, 2 and 3 went full shonen and that was super fun, but nothing excited me in 4. The locations were boring, I didn't know who they were fighting and why, I think it even opened with some literal who's fighting. Everyone can remember scenes from the originals, the bullet dodging, the pole spin kicks, the super saiyan battle at the end of 3. What is there to remember from 4?
The setting does kind of lend itself to a "cinematic universe" so I understand the impulse.
I dunno... it will probably just be some schlop. whatever. These studios think they can test the waters to see if they can get a cinematic universe to stick, but the success of Marvel was because they doubled down it on and went all in. If this were to happen, you'd need that commitment and I'd be surprised if it gets there
The idea of an AI war seems interesting? also seeing more of their cities. But they might as well make another Animatrix type thing, which would be better imo.
please make it stop...
just look away homie
its just so rare for things to be good anymore
Lmao at trannies who kept saying for years that it's a genius meta movie that filtered gazillions, aimed at killing the franchise forever so that no movie would ever be made.
What's the cope now for it being shit by design?
Lana not even directing it and being in it just for the money to buy more dilators is yet another social commentary about movie industry y'know
I barely remember what happened in the last one, and what was it a year ago?
>4 was actually le bad to kill the franchise so evil executives don't milk it
>here's matrix 5 doe
>somehow the matrix returned
Warner Bros is such a fricking moronic company it's unreal
Does anyone else just dimly remember a time when bad product = no money = not make more product
When did that stop being the rule? I swear the structure of reality itself has a "loose" feeling to it now, to me, because I just know that money means nothing (despite also meaning everything??) and everything is just made up of these nonsensical flows of funnymoney propping up failing garbage for 500 years, while the one good/innovative thing that emerges in a certain industry or domain will fail within 3 years despite being successful (????) and then "have to be taken over" by investors/managers who then... run the product into the ground... but also make the company too big to fail????? So that it also lasts 500 years as One Of Those Big Companies You Just Sort of Accept Are Eternal even though the original product has been diluted and turned into unrecognizable shit?
I swear I feel like I'm dreaming while awake sometimes. I had a dream last night that I fricked this girl I used to know Erica, and she handed me a trombone and I just started playing it. I accepted the trombone in that dream with the same exact mental and emotional reaction, the same act, as I accepted hearing "There will be a Matrix 5" just now upon reading this thread. Sure Erica just make more Matrix movies whatever
the simulacra and simulation, the book neo keeps the hacker thing that he sells to the goth guy, that book is about this basically.
I haven’t even watched 4 yet nor will I.
I love how 4 filtered the people it was describing
I wouldn’t even know who it was describing since I didn’t watch it lol
>Actually the movie is an ironic sendup of people who dislike movies that are ironic sendups of the people who watch the movie lol
Nah the movie makes fun of people who would expect some Marvel Michael Bay shit like many posters of post-2016 4chin ITT
In the first Matrix it was counter-culture to be a geek and a fighter in a world of empty suits. That was 1997.
In the fourth Matrix movie, the mainstream culture is faux geek and empty action. That's 2020.
See: Merovingian speech.
Who cares though if it's a shit boring ugly movie? We all agree the 2nd and 3rd Matrix movies were unnecessary kitsch cash-ins but the 4th was a student film. I don't care if it had a "concept," so does every student film.
I didn't ask.
a prequel would be more interesting
There are only 3 Matrix movies to me, if the next movie is good then it will be 4.
That's four too many.
Most recent one was one of the worst movies I've seen in recent memory.
The plot is so convoluted and pants-on-head stupid at times. The action is incredibly dull. Leans hard on the meta shit without the cleverness to actually make it meaningful.
I was going to ask "why is it 5, shouldn't it be 4" and then I remembered they had actually already made 4 and no one fricking saw it & it was forgotten in a week
Matrix 4 was dogshit and had no original crew from the first 3 films attached to it, and obviously the script was terrible/meta.
Just fricking for what purpose? I'd only give this movie a shot if the studio and the Wachowskis publicly disown Matrix 4 and apologize, which will definitely not happen.
Matrix 4 was unwatchable.
>make your franchise killer middle finger to the studio
>studio just makes another one anyway and now you're out of the way
Im so curious wtf they intend to do for the plot. What else even is there? Grandpa Neo teaching nu-One's da wae?