>Matt Groening, creator of The Simpsons, has heavily criticized the episode, feeling that it was just an advertisement for The Critic, and that people would incorrectly associate the show with him. When he was unsuccessful in getting the program pulled, he had his name removed from the credits and went public with his concerns, openly criticizing Brooks.
And yet by now he's perfectly fine with all the woke pc current thing slop that The Simpsons has turned into.
Talk about selling your soul to the devil.
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Groening should've threw in the towel after the Simpsons movie. At least it would've ended on a good note.
the movie was fricking terrible and like two decades too late
The movie was about at par with later simpsons (circa seasons 8 to 13)
I agree that it was too late, but it was better than the zombie seasons later on.
Yeah 8-13 isn't as good as the first 7 seasons, but it's still palatable. I stopped watching Simpsons sometime around 2010 I think .
Simpsons stole a lot of jokes from the critic
Jean and Reiss came back to The Simpsons so they didn't steal but used unused/reused Critic jokes
>And yet by now he's perfectly fine with all the woke pc current thing slop that The Simpsons has turned into
Source?
Creators are too close to their own work to ever appreciate it from the audience's standpoint, and when you do something for years it all starts to run together. You remember the strong views, and things that you felt went the wrong way when you were younger and higher T, that's what sticks in your memory. Past 40 or so things start to just blur together and it doesn't have the same personal significance as when you were in your prime (25-40 or so). Creativity itself peaks around 30 for men btw.
He doesn't work on the show idiot
>i go to baskin robbins every night and treat myself to a little treat
>I go to Baskin Robbins every night and buy myself a little treat
is the bit that the line is incorrect? Like is that what's supposed to be funny about it?
Bring back New Boot Goofin', this shit sucks.
forced meme
I don't care what that crotchety old man Groening thinks anyway. When he isn't drinking whiskey and being rude he just sulks in his office and brandishes his gun at staffers. I for one liked the Critic crossover episode as I enjoyed both shows at the time that it aired. Eudora Welty's loud belching noise (recycled a time or two between the two shows) was especially enjoyable.
He hasn't worked on the show in like a decade.
>and that people would incorrectly associate the show with him.
He wasn't wrong about that, as a kid I assumed that the same people had made both shows after I saw this episode.
>He hasn't worked on the show in like a decade.
Even during the golden years he was pretty much just collecting cheques. Groening had little to do with the Simpsons success other than creating the characters, the first season was the only one where he was heavily involved in the writing process. Brooks, Sam Simon, and early writers like George Mayer and John Swartzwelder are the people who really made The Simpsons good.
>not OK with advertising another show
>OK with liberal messaging
where's the hypocrisy, moron?
It's less the liberal messaging as just the abhorrently bad writing
there was an explicitly anti-PC college campus episode like ten years back, and even that was horrendously written. the simpsons could be an explicit nazi propaganda film or a mouthpiece for state juche or whatever the frick and it would be just as bad as it is now
>not compromising your vision
>then compromising it
the simpsons has always had a liberal leaning
and the series was severely compromised decades before "wokeness" was even a cultural force.
The Critic and Duckman were ahead of their time in animated comedy. You can't have this kind of quality today.
The Critic never aired over here so I had no idea that this episode was supposed to be a crossover. I did think that it was weird how hard they were trying to make this new character look cool, but overall the episode was funny with some classic jokes so it got a pass.
The much more notable hypocrisy is him being totally fine with a Family Guy crossover.
Yup. At least The Critic was tasteful.
as a kid, i had no idea it was even a crossover episode.
I was 5 when The Critic premiered in 1994. It was my first "adult" comedy that I saw on ABC. I didn't quite get the jokes, but I thought it was a fun show. The crossover with the Simpsons was comfy as frick. People talk about the MCU being the most ambitious crossover events, but The Critic/Simpsons was during the glory days of the 90's as a decade.
I can't believe there are 40 year old men still using this website
This little homosexual twink thinks the the "Don't forget, your here forever" is just a meme.
Haha you're going to think a few years have passed but you're 40. I'm 39 but 25 in my head. Nonstop entertainment collapses your sense of time.
Damn hadn't even thought of that
A Star is Burns has so many great gags ffs, the whole film festival thing is an awesome excuse for just random non sequitur jokes
>A Star is Burns has so many great gags ffs, the whole film festival thing is an awesome excuse for just random non sequitur jokes
A Star is Burns might be the single funniest episode of the entire show from beginning to end and even if it wasn't the film festival has as many great jokes as you might get out of like two or three entire episodes. I think the only episodes that compete with it are ones like The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson, Homer Badman, or Mr. Plow.
What about 22 Short Films about Springfield?
Overrated, I honestly don't like it that much. The only really funny or memorable part of the episode is steamed hams and maybe Nelson's segment.
tbf I think he had stopped giving a shit by that point
>Matt Groening, creator of The Simpsons, has heavily criticized the episode, feeling that it was just an advertisement
Still way better than the celebrity circlejerk The Simpsons ended up being.
I wonder what 1995 Groening would have thought of shit like the Elon and Lady Gaga episodes
Probably be disgusted. I chalk it up to Groening as an old man realizing that Simpsons are going to limp on and there's nothing he can do about. Better to just shut up and rake as much money.
Funny thing, back in 1992, the Simpsons commented on a series concluding naturally instead of being dragged on. The Cosby Show (1984 to 1992) had just ended on NBC and Bart commented that he would've milked it for all it was worth.
>celebrity circlejerk The Simpsons ended up being
I bet you give plenty of classic episodes a pass for this.
Eh, these were celebrity cameos not trying to tie-in another animated series into the Simpsons.
why does matt groening give a shit that the critic met the simpsons?
>So I said Sartre is smarter, but Greoning is groaning
bit on the nose, really
He's on the commentary track for that episode and praises it and sucks of John Lovitz the entire time. The commentaries were recorded after 9/11 but before the Simpsons movie.
He thought it was a cheap marketing stunt since Fox acquired The Critic from ABC and wanted to drum up ratings.
I haven't kept up with Simpsons in a long time, but did Brooks, Simon, Mayer, and Swartzwelder continue working after the Golden years (Seasons 1-8)?
>I haven't kept up with Simpsons in a long time, but did Brooks, Simon, Mayer, and Swartzwelder continue working after the Golden years (Seasons 1-8)?
Schwartzwelder and Mayer bother left in the early 2000s. So after the golden age, but before the complete shitification. Simon was credited as a producer until his death and Brooks is still credited but its pretty well known that they had frick all to do with the show creatively since the early 2000s as well. Its Al Jeans show now.
That explains it. You know when you can really tell Simpsons' writing was irrevocably gone? When the Treehouse of Horror segments lacked the memorable comedy and even creepy moments that the golden seasons had. Post-golden age, the Treehouses of Horror were very bland and unimaginative.
>implying Matt Groening had anything to do with simpsons past season 1.
I'm just going to come out and say it: The Critic is a better overall show than the Simpsons. The Simpsons' great episodes are great but even during its peak you'd still get like half of any given season having episodes that were unremarkable or are otherwise unmemorable outside of one or two specific jokes. Critic was good from start to finish.
his concern was the simpsons IP being diluted with another IP
why do you believe that makes him a hypocrite for not denouncing 'woke pc' 'slop'?
I didn't know The Critic was an actual show when I watched this episode as a kid, in spite of the "I smell another cheap cartoon crossover" joke.
Yeah and now that James L Brooks and Sam Simon are both long gone fromThe Simpson the show has been better than ever.
>Yeah and now that James L Brooks and Sam Simon are both long gone from The Simpson the show has been better than ever.
Only millenials still watch the Simpsons
You think that wasn’t sarcasm?
>Matt Groening, creator of The Simpsons, has heavily criticized the episode, feeling that it was just an advertisement for Sneed's Feed and Seed, and that people would incorrectly associate the show with him. When he was unsuccessful in getting the program pulled, he had his name removed from the credits and went public with his concerns, openly criticizing Sneed.
And yet by now he's perfectly fine with all the woke city slicker current thing slop that The Simpsons has turned into.
Talk about selling your soul to the devil.
>Talk about selling your soul to the devil.
Well he was a regular guest on Epstein’s island.
so was Chuck
Groening and Chuck were buddies, and Groening was trying to denigrate Sneed but it backfired when viewers became incredibly attached to the character
>And yet by now he's perfectly fine with all the woke pc current thing slop
Get a personality anon