>Matt Groening won't let Simpsons die
>Matt Groening won't let Futurama die
>Matt Groening allowed Disenchantment to end one season too early, ruining 5 years of build up
It's not fair, bros.
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>tfw I even forgot Disenchantment was a thing
Its just that forgettable
>Disenchantment
Pretty sure Netflix ended it because it was so bland and unfunny. Like last season was when they realized that maybe they should have added jokes to a comedy series.
Beautiful backgrounds and talented voice actors were wasted for it.
Sneed cameo when?
Is Groening even in charge of (or maybe affiliated at all with) Simpsons and Futurama anymore?
I thought he stepped down sometime in the past 10 years.
Matt Groening has always been a lucky hack (and nepobaby) who happened to be in the right place at the right time, when Korean sweatshop workers were making good quality TV animation affordable and brand new network FOX needed any content they could get and there was enough talented people around him (Sam Simon, Klasky Csupo studio, Conan, etc) that he could leech off to make the Simpsons a sucsess.
It cannot be understated how much of a fricking lazy stupid hack Groening is. Every contribution he actually added to the Simpsons was a negative, thankfully he was too lazy to do much of anything for the most part.
I agree, the problem of animation and movies is that everybody always focus on the idea guy or studio rather than the team as a whole, even if the idea guy only gave the most generic idea possible.
That's why I like Seth MacFarlane more than the other big guys, he's pretty open on how he's more of a really lucky bastard than a genius and would probably be forgotten if he didn't hit the jackpot with Family Guy.
>(and nepobaby)
He was an alternative cartoonist no nepotism going on there.
>Homer Phillp Groening was a Canadian-American filmmaker, advertiser, writer and cartoonist.
>Created the Simpsons characters in under two minutes whilst waiting for an interview for fox
Honestly pretty based that the most iconic sitcom family was a half-assed idea created by a stoned neckbeard who didn't want to give up the rights for his silly rabbits
This. Simpsons still has one of the most impressive origin stories, regardless of how little Groening contributed to the final series.
I hate that he didn't give David X. Cohen co-creator credit for Futurama. That's more his show than Groening's.
>I hate that he didn't give David X. Cohen co-creator credit for Futurama. That's more his show than Groening's.
I have to give it to Mike Judge for sharing creator credit with Greg Daniels on "King of the Hill." Even though characters like Luanne and Cotton were his idea, that wouldn't be enough to get him more than a "Developed By" credit on any other animated sitcom.
That's exactly what was on my mind when I wrote that. Mad respect to Judge for that move.
The way I see it, Groening's co-developer role in the creation of Futurama can be compared to Roiland's in Rick and Morty, only even less since the latter actually did voices and directly impacted the writing up to Season 3. The reason why Rick and Morty has two creators is because that show literally couldn't have existed without Harmon's name, the inverse for Futurama where the silly cartoonist's name is the reason the show was picked up.
Groening didn't have much vision other than retelling stories about stuff that happened to him and his sisters when he was a kid. It took a lot of smarter people to flesh it out into more than that.
That's most of the writers' stories on the show. Some fricked off after they ran out of childhood material.
unless it's John Swartzwelder since he just did Americana and Hitler jokes
Groening was a nobody, no nepotism though. James L. Brooks just happened to discover him through Life In Hell, Matt's indie comic strip.
Disenchantment was fine season 1, but everything after was painfully boring. It had zero of the magic Simpsons and Futurama once had.
>>Matt Groening won't let Futurama die
Good.
It probably has nothing to do with both Simpsons and Futurama being on TV where advertisers pay you more for advertising during your shows time slot vs a show on Netflix only a decent sized amount of people care about in a department of Netflix that is not loved.
Totally nothing to do with that.
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mid show
but still better than dishitchantment
Disenchantment was a dud. After the first season, no one was really invested. Hell, I barely got through the episodes I did watch. It was boring. The jokes were landed or were done to death. Bean was not a likable character to me and the side cast are nowhere near as iconic as the Simpsons or Futurama casts.
They weren't invested in season 1, the whole show had no fricking passion to it because the writers were all scifigays.
Simpsons movie is a masterpiece, frick anyone who says otherwise.
The Simpsons movie was an unfunny shitfest and I have to conclude anyone who likes it is totally deluded by nostalgia.
Its basically an extended episode of the cancer seasons.
100% fake.
>Disenchantment
How did anyone think this was going to be good? Futurama was made hot off the heels of the Simpsons golden age. That shit was made during peak-rot of Zombie Simpsons, how did you think it was going to end?
don't have who the underachiever cow hell eat bartman shorts whoa mama
>How did anyone think this was going to be good?
I think the idea was they wanted to do a fantasy satire series because GoT was popping off, but no one in the writing room actually understands medieval society, so 90% of the humor is haha, the father is a loveable bastard and haha Bean's a prostitute.
IRL medieval history wasn't really very glamorous or sexy, a lot of it was just brutal wars and religion being absolutely central to everything. and religions and religious topics that are still relevant and practiced today you can't just make jokes about some pedo pope or israelites being killed in a pogrom without possibly offending a bunch of your audience. it's not like ancient history where nobody cares about making fun of Zeus.
I think people were just excited for a new Groening show after almost 20 years. Disenchantment being a streaming exclusive also gave us hope that they would do things they never could on FOX, like tell a fully serialized narrative not bound by outdated broadcast TV restrictions.
It did really well building up the mysteries and conections over several seasons and then totally flubbed the ending.
I'm convinced it was a six season show and they had to suddenly wrap stuff up.
>did well building up the mysteries
ahahaha no.
It was always the exact same shit, everything being wrapped up in the first episode of a season and then pointless shit before the end hastily tries to throw in some shit that they will once again remove in the first episode of the following season.
damn those Fox stuff shirts denying us our full frontal Lisa nudity
If you watched Hulu Futurama you will know it's nothing but Matt saying "Please for the love of god please let me retire.".
The eternal debate
Why pit two queens against each other?
Why couldn't Hulurama look this good?
This looks higher effort, but it still looks like shit.
>Matt Groening did this
>Matt Groening did that
When are you going to take responsibility for your own mistakes, anon?
It's still his best work.
Disenchantment shouldn't have even gotten a single season you tasteless clown.
Disenchantment was shit.
Disenchantment was worse than shit, it was incredibly boring and mid. At least with shit shows you can ocasionally laugh at how bad it is.
He's a fat old bastard and should be ashamed.