>book about scheming and politics coming up against emotion and ideas >"let's hire a director who hates dialogue and emotion and likes silence and cold concrete"
Don't worry the next attempt in 30 years will finally be a good dune adaptation
A bit hyperbolic, but I agree it's one of the best in years. I was floored when I saw this.
I hate the modern washed out colors and that everything is made "serious looking" according to modern shit movie standards. Nothing outlandish is allowed to exist.
>I hate the modern washed out colors and that everything is made "serious looking" according to modern shit movie standards. Nothing outlandish is allowed to exist.
I think it works extremely well here. Instead of saying "look at this crazy scifi world!" they said "This is real, these characters are real, what are we to make of them?"
Fremen also have lasers.
Also they have devices that act like portable shields specifically designed to kill laser users by triggering a mini nuke when they are used.
Also lasers probably attract worms or some sheit.
Except the world doesn't come across as real, because not only are the colors, costumes and sets all muted and grey, but the setting feels depopulated. Dennis insists on having enormous, empty rooms. Maybe he wanted to convey a sense of scale? But ultimately it conveys mostly a sense of sterility. It all feels cold, impersonal. Like an empty parking garage.
I would like to have a house on the top floor complete with a lawn and a garden and a giant koi pond/ swimming pool but the edge of the yard is the ramp down to the elevated part of the garage and an elevator that goes down to the basement floors as well, where the good cat pee smell is strongest. Definitely lit by high pressure sodium lights rather than the nasty green mercury lamps or the new 6k LED everyone wants to use now.
>normies do not get it at all >fans are upset things were changed/removed
Who is this movie for, really? Zoomer thots thirsting after the israelite twink protag?
Dune is unadaptable in modern times. There is simply no way you can show all the internal monologues and thought processes of characters. Unironically, you'd need an animated adaptation since those (because they are stylized) can do mindgames and internal thoughts way easier (eg. Death Note).
This can be done in film. It would just take a ridiculously long time. Dune should have like a 4 hour runtime. They split it into 2 movies and still didn't flesh it out.
t. haven't actually seen part 1
The movie actually has shit logic because it doesn't explain how Harkonnens attacked, has no internal politics or the whole plot of everyone suspecting Jessica to be the traitor etc.
>Dune should have like a 4 hour runtime.
The original cut had a run time over 3hrs but the studio didn't trust the most influential Sci-Fi IP in history to perform well at the box office so they made the fake french it down to 2.5hrs. The worst things to hit the cutting room floor was a banquet scene that laid out all the politics people were upset was missing.
They are literally unironically 100% Space Arabs in the book
Remember that this is the same series where the Atreides are canonically direct descendants of King Agamemnon from the Iliad
They were Zensunni Wanderers for centuries or millenia or something and I'm sure they've picked up interesting genetics along the way, but they are absolutely direct descendants of modern Earth Arabs genetically, culturally, and linguistically
The Imperial ecologists role was ALWAYS going to be cut in a theatrical version and having it as a woman instead changed literally nothing relevant to the overall plot. Kaynes isn't even that important in the fricking book - the second he helped the fremen develo their Terra forming plan (which is in and of itself moronic, apparently fremen who can develop hidden industrial centers are too moronic to figure this out) and knocked up Chanis mom, he didn't have a point.
so he removed an important character and created an unimportant character with the same name to take its place and waste screentime. that's... moronic.
The Fremens own reverend mothers are their religious leaders, did you even read the fricking books? Kaynes was respected for his work he had no religious significance to the Fremen.
His role as unofficial leader of the Fremen and the "John the Baptist" to Paul as "Jesus" is pretty important
Also not to sound like a liberal homosexual but gender roles are actually a really important part of the book, Fremen society and the known universe broadly are "patriarchal" until tyrant-worm Leto II upends everything by putting women in charge and philosophizing for hours about the difference between male fighters and women fighters
The first Dune literally has Paul's first wife, and Chani, casually using the Weirding Way to kill the random Fremen who keep trying to challenge and kill Paul as they viewed them as a waste of Paul's time. Their women, children and elderly were capable of fighting off Sadukar (and did so multiple times). There was no 'females can't be fighters' bullshit frick Chani is part of the party sent out to kill Paul and Jessica when they first wander into the wastes.
Basically you are a stupid homosexual and your shits all moronic.
I never said anything about women fighters, obviously with the Fremen everybody fights from birth to super old age, I'm saying that their leaders (Naibs) are all men which is a different class from their rogue Reverend Mothers which are all women. Fem-Kynes fricks that up. Maybe try reading God Emperor of Dune again before you post here
The fremen are a really stupid faction in the books. As you say, their women and children and elderly defeat sardaukar assault teams, which is completely unbelievable. But that aside, they're unambiguously presented as a patriarchical faction, women leaders don't exist outside of the reverend mothers. It is strange that chani was allowed to kill men in extremely shameful ways without being executed for it herself, but I guess that's the privileges that come with being muad'dib's woman. I think mostly Frank just didn't care very much about trivialities like how obviously stupid the fremen were as a faction, or how everyone who interacts with them is moronic. Except for Rabban, apparently. He was the least moronic person to interact with the fremen until the sardaukar arrived and immediately realized that these desert people needed to be wiped out, something that everyone else should've realized probably thousands of years ago considering the water depos they've managed to build up. Where did that water come from, anyway? Did they ship it in from comets? Well, whatever I guess.
>Chani is part of the party sent out to kill Paul and Jessica when they first wander into the wastes.
Do the Fremen have any way to beat a fully trained bene gesserit in combat?
Ambush and overwhelming numbers. They're geurilla fighters, but REALLY good at it because of their harsh conditions for so many generations. It's not realistic, but is a consistent theme.
nta, but you forgot the part where Kynes unites the Fremen towards the longterm goal of reshaping arrakis by deftly and patiently manipulating ecological feedback loops. Taking over this unifying project was part of how Paul took over the Fremen; by playing the part of the Mahdi and promising to deliver them to freedom and a literal paradise. Taking Kynes' daughter was part of how Paul took over the project.
>but the fremen religious leaders were female sayadinas!
Indeed, and Paul synthesizes feminine religious mysteries with masculine warlord leadership.
His role as unofficial leader of the Fremen and the "John the Baptist" to Paul as "Jesus" is pretty important
Also not to sound like a liberal homosexual but gender roles are actually a really important part of the book, Fremen society and the known universe broadly are "patriarchal" until tyrant-worm Leto II upends everything by putting women in charge and philosophizing for hours about the difference between male fighters and women fighters
I hate the modern washed out colors and that everything is made "serious looking" according to modern shit movie standards. Nothing outlandish is allowed to exist.
isn't his body actually made of sandtrout or something? that's how they kill him in the end, isn't it? lure him into falling into a bunch of water or something and then his body tears itself apart as the trout respond to the water, and begin turning it into spice or themselves into worms or whatever it is that they do again
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Anonymous
Sandworms are allergic to water so it sounds about right
I'm so sick of pseudointellectual virgins incessantly b***hing about muh color grading. Go watch Yo Gabba Gabba if bright color are required to hold your attention
>I'm sick of these criticisms. I have no defense against them to put forth. I'm just so sick of this concensus of complaints. Why can't you let people (like me) enjoy things??
>everyone smarter than me is a pseud
Okay, midwit. Enjoy your drab palette of shit. You deserve it.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm smarter than any stranger who disagrees with me >use words like "midwit"
You're the quintessential internet pseudointellectual. Enjoy your campy toddler media. You deserve it.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Cry.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Wow. She's so pretty. Very much the elven features described in the book.
>Paul is coded as a hermaphroditic character
He is, explicitly, a male created against the wishes of the Bene Gesserit (who wanted a female for breeding purposes)
About 1/4th of the book is Paul and Chani's love story, who he impregnates
In my head cannon his ultimate goal is to find a way to get fully hard and put his own penis inside his own vegana and impregnate himself. The issue is that he can never get it to do a 180° and cum because his penis is now kinked like a hose.
>now all artwork of Chani is Shitaya >soon cool book editions will stop being printed and we will be flooded with low quality, shit ones with movie posters and images inbetween pages
i hate it, every time it happens
They should have made the bristles blue so that the the mouth looks like a blue iris, thus highlighting the worms' relationship with the spice (and also making it look less like a gaping anus). Huge wasted opportunity.
this goes against book canon
It was a closely guarded Fremen secret that the worms were involved in spice production, not something a random dumbass Harkonnen grunt would notice the first time they see a worm
I also think the book says the inside is white and yellow and brown but I'm not 100% sure on that one
>Penis Villnoo totally fricks up in an aspect of the book >this is a good argument for why Penis Villnoo should totally frick up another aspect of the book
There's a difference between raping the source material and raping the source material while also introducing a plot issue that requires everyone on the planet to be literally moronic
There's a difference between raping the source material and raping the source material while also introducing a plot issue that requires everyone on the planet to be literally moronic
True, it would have been a bold, creative divergence from the page. Too bold for a coward like Villeneuve, perhaps. The thing is, he was clearly trying to evoke the image of an eye with that shot, but because he lacked the courage to follow through on the concept (by making the bristles blue), it falls flat (and ends up looking like a gaping anus)
There is also no way they will adapt past Messiah.
Too much weird shit happening, including „they are actually thousands years old” e-girl and shota incest.
>part 2 of DUNC is where where Villeneuve can emerge from under Lynch's shadow
Nah but at least the trailer for it wasn't as bad as anything I've seen in the first one. Still, what a self-serving mess Dunc is.
I'm curious how it will turn out, because most of the conflict comes from Paul trying to find a way forward without causing mass genocide, rather than actions taken against him.
Book 3 mostly consists of The Baron finding out just how badly Shaddam had fricked him
So is this isrsel/palestine nonsense going to delay the movie? They can't really show a film where desert people rise up against the "empire" in a galactic Jihad in the current political climate.
>compliant bussy she is in the books
?? what?
books clearly state multiple times she was a badass and often Paul had to use her advice and wisdom, did you miss the entire point of the twins scene where they channeled their parents?
nothing wrong with being loyal, Paul was also loyal to her and refused to bang Irulan even though she was clearly way fricking hotter and basically thirsting for him 24h/day
she was more than just loyal in the books, she even offered to let him frick Irulan. im the trailers shes practically sneering at him. this is AFTER he bested jamis
weird that no one ever thought of using his non-consumation of the marriage as grounds for annullment. you'd think that would still be relevant in the far future, considering it's a royal wedding.
I'm pretty sure in Messiah the Bene Gesserit ask Paul to impregnate Irulan or his sister Alia so they can try to salvage the breeding program and Paul tells them to frick off because he's the living god of the best fighters in the known universe
>planet with most important resource in the universe is basically abandoned by great powers and whoever the frick can own it and wage wars there, eventually local Black folk take over and go full terorrism on everyone while guild cucks tranport them for free
yeah awesome setting. Star wars made more sense.
>basically abandoned by great powers and whoever the frick can own it and wage wars there
this is 100% factually incorrect
it's a HUGE deal that the Harkonnens got to manage spice harvesting and that privilege was given to the Atreides at the beginning of the book as part of the Emperor's scheme to destroy the Atreides. It's not just free real estate for anyone to show up and fight for it like it is in the video games or board games or whatever
When the film was released a third-person RPG was in preproduction
Dunno how far it is in development, might have been quietly cancelled by now
The film didn't become the star wars killer megafranchise they hoped for
It's just that warfare in the Dune setting is so... *not* like a Command&Conquer RTS, and yet it was Dune2 that started that genre. I really don't know what a book-accurate Dune pc game would look like, but it wouldn't involve armies of walker mechs and saw-blade tanks.
Tbf, the atreides had a similar reaction when they arrived. Thuffir asking the Guild rep how much it would cost to put a few observation satellites in orbit over Arrakis, and the Guild agent just steps past any haggling or negotiations and tells him frankly, mentat to mentat, that the price for such a thing "was out of their reach and would remain so, no matter how long their reach developed."
that's literally how they guide ships. also they show up to tell the emperor to murder paul because they know he's going to frick them over because they've seen the future. also, the reason they surrender to him in the endgame is because they see all other timelines lead to their extinction. probably other stuff too.
8 months ago
Anonymous
I thought it was just mental calculations.
8 months ago
Anonymous
nah, that's mentats. navigators are precogs.
8 months ago
Anonymous
They saw him as a threat and acted on it. What more do you want?
the only adaptations i care about are for the second and subsequent novels
i get it's necessary but getting another first novel adaptation is so fricking tired
The movie was very dumbed down. Without the traitor plotline and internal politics of Arrakis being shown, Atreides look like morons who walked into an obvious trap and Harkonnens arrived out of blue on the planet without having any means for it.
Another reason Dune is inadaptable is because it's too problematic. >Herbert hated gays >Baron is a pedo gay >Constantly the books remind that women cannot be Kwisatz Haderach and Other Memories are too frightening for them >multiple remarks about women eg. about Alia, that she needs wiener/a man or she'll freak out
I happen to enjoy Lynch's Dune and the smell of a parking garage equally. If you don't, you're the one with bad taste. The new movie is not as good as Lynch's Dune but I like the aesthetics of the buildings more. They just miscaste the movie horribly. The only good casting in the new movie are Oscar Issac and Josh Brolin. Irulan should have been Jessica Biel with a de-aging filter.
The one that came out a couple years ago with Timothy Chalemet is the best movie to come out in at least 30 years.
This is an indisputable fact
It's a shit Dune movie though that utterly fails at capturing the feel of the book.
This. It's a good sci-fi film, shit Dune film.
It's not a good film. Period.
>Period.
take care of urself, gurl
>feel of the book
You actually read dune? Like all of it LMAO!
>book about scheming and politics coming up against emotion and ideas
>"let's hire a director who hates dialogue and emotion and likes silence and cold concrete"
Don't worry the next attempt in 30 years will finally be a good dune adaptation
The frick kinda movies you watching that Dunc looks good in comparison?
lots of moe anime, some shonen shit... but mostly sissyhypno
It's not even as good as the directors last movie
It was legitimately worse then the 1984 one.
third best DUNE adaptation
oh wait, I didnt count Behind the Dune
DUNC is the fourth best Dune adaptation
A bit hyperbolic, but I agree it's one of the best in years. I was floored when I saw this.
>I hate the modern washed out colors and that everything is made "serious looking" according to modern shit movie standards. Nothing outlandish is allowed to exist.
I think it works extremely well here. Instead of saying "look at this crazy scifi world!" they said "This is real, these characters are real, what are we to make of them?"
>I was floored when I saw this.
Bruh. Me too. It was really boring and made me sleepy.
You'd think if nobody is wearing shields the Sarduakar would just use lasguns and kill all the Fremen in two seconds
A minor oversight on the worldbuilding side of things.
Fremen also have lasers.
Also they have devices that act like portable shields specifically designed to kill laser users by triggering a mini nuke when they are used.
Also lasers probably attract worms or some sheit.
Except the world doesn't come across as real, because not only are the colors, costumes and sets all muted and grey, but the setting feels depopulated. Dennis insists on having enormous, empty rooms. Maybe he wanted to convey a sense of scale? But ultimately it conveys mostly a sense of sterility. It all feels cold, impersonal. Like an empty parking garage.
I like empty parking garages. I even like the cat pee smell. We all have different preferences.
If you had all the money you could ever want, would you like to live in an empty parking garage with the cat pee smell?
I would like to have a house on the top floor complete with a lawn and a garden and a giant koi pond/ swimming pool but the edge of the yard is the ramp down to the elevated part of the garage and an elevator that goes down to the basement floors as well, where the good cat pee smell is strongest. Definitely lit by high pressure sodium lights rather than the nasty green mercury lamps or the new 6k LED everyone wants to use now.
I'm glad you're happy, but that is a really embarrassing take unless you're 10 years old.
>
I can't argue with that.
Didn't work for me. Or if you're refering to adaptations then also no, this is the worst one.
>normies do not get it at all
>fans are upset things were changed/removed
Who is this movie for, really? Zoomer thots thirsting after the israelite twink protag?
>fans are upset things were changed/removed
only Cinemaphile contrarians were upset
I’ll never get why they named it Dunc
Was it a licensing issue or just product placement?
>I’ll never get why they named it Dunc
it says ƆUNC
or ƆU∩C
>virgin walks without rhythm.
SAY HELLO TO MY CHOCOLATE BLEND
Dune is unadaptable in modern times. There is simply no way you can show all the internal monologues and thought processes of characters. Unironically, you'd need an animated adaptation since those (because they are stylized) can do mindgames and internal thoughts way easier (eg. Death Note).
This can be done in film. It would just take a ridiculously long time. Dune should have like a 4 hour runtime. They split it into 2 movies and still didn't flesh it out.
t. haven't actually seen part 1
The movie actually has shit logic because it doesn't explain how Harkonnens attacked, has no internal politics or the whole plot of everyone suspecting Jessica to be the traitor etc.
>Dune should have like a 4 hour runtime.
The original cut had a run time over 3hrs but the studio didn't trust the most influential Sci-Fi IP in history to perform well at the box office so they made the fake french it down to 2.5hrs. The worst things to hit the cutting room floor was a banquet scene that laid out all the politics people were upset was missing.
>you'd need an animated adaptation
just make sure it has giant robots
>Fremen are Arabs
ANYONE who does this misses the entire point of the book.
They are literally unironically 100% Space Arabs in the book
Remember that this is the same series where the Atreides are canonically direct descendants of King Agamemnon from the Iliad
The only 2 descriptions of a Fremen we get in the first book both say they are gingers.
They were Zensunni Wanderers for centuries or millenia or something and I'm sure they've picked up interesting genetics along the way, but they are absolutely direct descendants of modern Earth Arabs genetically, culturally, and linguistically
Are you moronic?
The physical descriptions I recall are Jamis' wife having Olive skin and Chani repeatedly being described as elfin (lol, lmao)
But they are. In fact the whole of humanity is heavily Muslim-derived.
Oscar Isaac nailed the role.
That's about it.
How can he nail it if he was miscast
I will never forgive them. Such a moronic change and 100 times worse character than in the books.
>we need this black woman replace the best character in the book and change everything about the role completely
What were they thinking?
The Imperial ecologists role was ALWAYS going to be cut in a theatrical version and having it as a woman instead changed literally nothing relevant to the overall plot. Kaynes isn't even that important in the fricking book - the second he helped the fremen develo their Terra forming plan (which is in and of itself moronic, apparently fremen who can develop hidden industrial centers are too moronic to figure this out) and knocked up Chanis mom, he didn't have a point.
he's the religious leader of their people. turning him into a woman completely destroys the fremen's entire culture.
Kynes in movie is a completely different character. It also seems she has no relation to Chani whatsoever.
so he removed an important character and created an unimportant character with the same name to take its place and waste screentime. that's... moronic.
The Fremens own reverend mothers are their religious leaders, did you even read the fricking books? Kaynes was respected for his work he had no religious significance to the Fremen.
The first Dune literally has Paul's first wife, and Chani, casually using the Weirding Way to kill the random Fremen who keep trying to challenge and kill Paul as they viewed them as a waste of Paul's time. Their women, children and elderly were capable of fighting off Sadukar (and did so multiple times). There was no 'females can't be fighters' bullshit frick Chani is part of the party sent out to kill Paul and Jessica when they first wander into the wastes.
Basically you are a stupid homosexual and your shits all moronic.
I never said anything about women fighters, obviously with the Fremen everybody fights from birth to super old age, I'm saying that their leaders (Naibs) are all men which is a different class from their rogue Reverend Mothers which are all women. Fem-Kynes fricks that up. Maybe try reading God Emperor of Dune again before you post here
The fremen are a really stupid faction in the books. As you say, their women and children and elderly defeat sardaukar assault teams, which is completely unbelievable. But that aside, they're unambiguously presented as a patriarchical faction, women leaders don't exist outside of the reverend mothers. It is strange that chani was allowed to kill men in extremely shameful ways without being executed for it herself, but I guess that's the privileges that come with being muad'dib's woman. I think mostly Frank just didn't care very much about trivialities like how obviously stupid the fremen were as a faction, or how everyone who interacts with them is moronic. Except for Rabban, apparently. He was the least moronic person to interact with the fremen until the sardaukar arrived and immediately realized that these desert people needed to be wiped out, something that everyone else should've realized probably thousands of years ago considering the water depos they've managed to build up. Where did that water come from, anyway? Did they ship it in from comets? Well, whatever I guess.
>Chani is part of the party sent out to kill Paul and Jessica when they first wander into the wastes.
Do the Fremen have any way to beat a fully trained bene gesserit in combat?
Maula pistol in the back at 50 meters ought to do the trick
Bene Gesserit probably kick ass 100% of the time up close though
Ambush and overwhelming numbers. They're geurilla fighters, but REALLY good at it because of their harsh conditions for so many generations. It's not realistic, but is a consistent theme.
nta, but you forgot the part where Kynes unites the Fremen towards the longterm goal of reshaping arrakis by deftly and patiently manipulating ecological feedback loops. Taking over this unifying project was part of how Paul took over the Fremen; by playing the part of the Mahdi and promising to deliver them to freedom and a literal paradise. Taking Kynes' daughter was part of how Paul took over the project.
>but the fremen religious leaders were female sayadinas!
Indeed, and Paul synthesizes feminine religious mysteries with masculine warlord leadership.
His role as unofficial leader of the Fremen and the "John the Baptist" to Paul as "Jesus" is pretty important
Also not to sound like a liberal homosexual but gender roles are actually a really important part of the book, Fremen society and the known universe broadly are "patriarchal" until tyrant-worm Leto II upends everything by putting women in charge and philosophizing for hours about the difference between male fighters and women fighters
I hate the modern washed out colors and that everything is made "serious looking" according to modern shit movie standards. Nothing outlandish is allowed to exist.
Yup. Any recent attempt got burned at the box office (Valerian, John Carter. Alita: Battle Angel, Pacific Rim).
Villeneuve is creatively timid. No risks were taken.
>Everything is made "serious looking"
>Nothing outlandish is allowed to exist
Well said. That's true for a lot of Villeneuve's flicks.
Funny how it still ends up being a goofy mess.
Why did he open his helmet midbattle and stare at nothing?
What a hack.
It's a vision.
He's looking at himself. The spice can get pretty trippy.
in all fairness this is pretty cool and you can tell a lot of effort was put into it
No, it's not cool. The one cool thing was pic rel.
>Movie tries to be extremely serious but turns out goofy asf
So it's just like the books? Maybe villeneuve was the right man for the job.
Those depictions are always so stupid.
Leto is not a dude trapped in a sandworm body. His actual body changed.
isn't his body actually made of sandtrout or something? that's how they kill him in the end, isn't it? lure him into falling into a bunch of water or something and then his body tears itself apart as the trout respond to the water, and begin turning it into spice or themselves into worms or whatever it is that they do again
Sandworms are allergic to water so it sounds about right
>It's a Duncan dies in an embarrassing way - episode.
Weird how the Lynch version just seems so much better in hindsight.
It nailed the atmosphere and has the best soundtrack out of any Dune adaptation.
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>soundtrack
Could have been better
I'm so sick of pseudointellectual virgins incessantly b***hing about muh color grading. Go watch Yo Gabba Gabba if bright color are required to hold your attention
>pseudointellectual virgins
>gurl
And I'm sick of internet tough guys. You are low IQ and you're ugly and everyone hates you.
I'm so sick of projecting homosexuals
Go see a doctor.
>I'm sick of these criticisms. I have no defense against them to put forth. I'm just so sick of this concensus of complaints. Why can't you let people (like me) enjoy things??
>I'm just so sick of this concensus of complaints
>terminally online loser thinks his whinging represents any sort of "concensus"
Pseud homosexual
Midwit.
Thanks for proving my point
>everyone smarter than me is a pseud
Okay, midwit. Enjoy your drab palette of shit. You deserve it.
>I'm smarter than any stranger who disagrees with me
>use words like "midwit"
You're the quintessential internet pseudointellectual. Enjoy your campy toddler media. You deserve it.
Cry.
Wow. She's so pretty. Very much the elven features described in the book.
What does Chani look like in the new dunc?
I WATCH FOR HE
>this is what 10000 years of selective breeding resulted in
Bene Gesserit are the biggest joke in the entire book
perfection? I agree
Anakin Skywalker but mid.
he luke softer and more andogynous which is far from a bad thing
He isn't ugly but his features are less well-balanced.
God, Hayden was such a shit actor.
False.
Reminder that Paul is coded as a hermaphroditic character and the twink look is therefore fitting.
>Paul is coded as a hermaphroditic character
He is, explicitly, a male created against the wishes of the Bene Gesserit (who wanted a female for breeding purposes)
About 1/4th of the book is Paul and Chani's love story, who he impregnates
But he definitely has a pussy tucked up between his balls, right?
If Paul had a pussy then he could just frick Feyd Rautha and birth the real Kwisatz Haderach and the entire plot wouldn't happen
In my head cannon his ultimate goal is to find a way to get fully hard and put his own penis inside his own vegana and impregnate himself. The issue is that he can never get it to do a 180° and cum because his penis is now kinked like a hose.
>now all artwork of Chani is Shitaya
>soon cool book editions will stop being printed and we will be flooded with low quality, shit ones with movie posters and images inbetween pages
i hate it, every time it happens
Lietta-Kynes is way worse
>Kynesha
Unforgivable. The Canadian must be punished.
They should have made the bristles blue so that the the mouth looks like a blue iris, thus highlighting the worms' relationship with the spice (and also making it look less like a gaping anus). Huge wasted opportunity.
this goes against book canon
It was a closely guarded Fremen secret that the worms were involved in spice production, not something a random dumbass Harkonnen grunt would notice the first time they see a worm
I also think the book says the inside is white and yellow and brown but I'm not 100% sure on that one
The knives are explicitly said to be that colour, yes.
>this goes against book canon
Oh yeah?
>Penis Villnoo totally fricks up in an aspect of the book
>this is a good argument for why Penis Villnoo should totally frick up another aspect of the book
Y'all hatin but I ain't listenin
There's a difference between raping the source material and raping the source material while also introducing a plot issue that requires everyone on the planet to be literally moronic
True, it would have been a bold, creative divergence from the page. Too bold for a coward like Villeneuve, perhaps. The thing is, he was clearly trying to evoke the image of an eye with that shot, but because he lacked the courage to follow through on the concept (by making the bristles blue), it falls flat (and ends up looking like a gaping anus)
>not recognizing a stale meme
lurk moar
It's not a meme.
Chani is so fricking ugly I can't enjoy the film.
There is also no way they will adapt past Messiah.
Too much weird shit happening, including „they are actually thousands years old” e-girl and shota incest.
This art made me think that Dune adapted in Arkane style could work.
Yup, it would be considerably better than Dunc.
Messiah is a piss that takes 36 times longer than a regular piss with the same result.
- the first half of Lynch's Dune was kino
-the second half was dire thanks to interference from the producer (lynch wanted his name off the movie)
part 2 of DUNC is where where Villeneuve can emerge from under Lynch's shadow. Fingers crossed guise
>part 2 of DUNC is where where Villeneuve can emerge from under Lynch's shadow
Nah but at least the trailer for it wasn't as bad as anything I've seen in the first one. Still, what a self-serving mess Dunc is.
SOVL and CHECKED
Soulless trash
I'm curious how it will turn out, because most of the conflict comes from Paul trying to find a way forward without causing mass genocide, rather than actions taken against him.
Book 3 mostly consists of The Baron finding out just how badly Shaddam had fricked him
So is this isrsel/palestine nonsense going to delay the movie? They can't really show a film where desert people rise up against the "empire" in a galactic Jihad in the current political climate.
They'll call it a crusade instead
The mog is real.
Chani being a chad power mover rather than the compliant bussy she is in the books is a bold move in 2023.
>compliant bussy she is in the books
?? what?
books clearly state multiple times she was a badass and often Paul had to use her advice and wisdom, did you miss the entire point of the twins scene where they channeled their parents?
She was completely subservient to him you dunces. The trailer heavily implies the opposite.
nothing wrong with being loyal, Paul was also loyal to her and refused to bang Irulan even though she was clearly way fricking hotter and basically thirsting for him 24h/day
What is wrong is using middle east setting and making mc a low test gay instead of him having 40 wives and a harem the size of small city.
One wife is enough. Just don't have it be Zendaya. Also, yeah, Chalamet is completely miscast.
she was more than just loyal in the books, she even offered to let him frick Irulan. im the trailers shes practically sneering at him. this is AFTER he bested jamis
weird that no one ever thought of using his non-consumation of the marriage as grounds for annullment. you'd think that would still be relevant in the far future, considering it's a royal wedding.
werid that no one wants to be absolutely smashed by Paul's death commandos for challenging his marriage
I'm pretty sure in Messiah the Bene Gesserit ask Paul to impregnate Irulan or his sister Alia so they can try to salvage the breeding program and Paul tells them to frick off because he's the living god of the best fighters in the known universe
>the compliant bussy she is in the books
you illiterate frickwit
>scowling
>American accent
>an absolute DOG of a woman
That's three strikes. She's OUT!
>planet with most important resource in the universe is basically abandoned by great powers and whoever the frick can own it and wage wars there, eventually local Black folk take over and go full terorrism on everyone while guild cucks tranport them for free
yeah awesome setting. Star wars made more sense.
>basically abandoned by great powers and whoever the frick can own it and wage wars there
this is 100% factually incorrect
it's a HUGE deal that the Harkonnens got to manage spice harvesting and that privilege was given to the Atreides at the beginning of the book as part of the Emperor's scheme to destroy the Atreides. It's not just free real estate for anyone to show up and fight for it like it is in the video games or board games or whatever
In retrospect, dune was probably the worst setting to use for RTS games...
When the film was released a third-person RPG was in preproduction
Dunno how far it is in development, might have been quietly cancelled by now
The film didn't become the star wars killer megafranchise they hoped for
It's just that warfare in the Dune setting is so... *not* like a Command&Conquer RTS, and yet it was Dune2 that started that genre. I really don't know what a book-accurate Dune pc game would look like, but it wouldn't involve armies of walker mechs and saw-blade tanks.
So explain to me why the guild would ever agree to not have spy satellites over Arakeen?
The frenmen bribed them to the gills for it, and the Harkonens never thought the deeper parts were worth pushing for.
Guild literally only cares if they get enough spice and Fremen were giving them a lot to keep shit secret.
Tbf, the atreides had a similar reaction when they arrived. Thuffir asking the Guild rep how much it would cost to put a few observation satellites in orbit over Arrakis, and the Guild agent just steps past any haggling or negotiations and tells him frankly, mentat to mentat, that the price for such a thing "was out of their reach and would remain so, no matter how long their reach developed."
and then kynes' son-in-law took them all hostage
great forward thinking there, by the supposedly precognitive guild
I didn't think the guild were precognizant
that's literally how they guide ships. also they show up to tell the emperor to murder paul because they know he's going to frick them over because they've seen the future. also, the reason they surrender to him in the endgame is because they see all other timelines lead to their extinction. probably other stuff too.
I thought it was just mental calculations.
nah, that's mentats. navigators are precogs.
They saw him as a threat and acted on it. What more do you want?
the fremen identify as they/them, not he/him
Was talkinga bout the guild, not trannies
the guild also identify as they/them
So do my balls.
now you're getting it
>PAWL YA FOOKIN POOFTER WHER ARE YE? I'LL SMASH YOR FOOKIN WIG OFF WHEN I GET ME ANDS AND YA!
What terrible purpose.
the only adaptations i care about are for the second and subsequent novels
i get it's necessary but getting another first novel adaptation is so fricking tired
Best sleeping aid I’ve ever had
The movie was very dumbed down. Without the traitor plotline and internal politics of Arrakis being shown, Atreides look like morons who walked into an obvious trap and Harkonnens arrived out of blue on the planet without having any means for it.
Not to mention Yueh is also extra moronic because it looks like he really trusted someone as evil looking as Baron Harkonnen lmao
Another reason Dune is inadaptable is because it's too problematic.
>Herbert hated gays
>Baron is a pedo gay
>Constantly the books remind that women cannot be Kwisatz Haderach and Other Memories are too frightening for them
>multiple remarks about women eg. about Alia, that she needs wiener/a man or she'll freak out
It will be delayed again until 2025 due to the perception of the Fremem as Hamas and Harkonnens as israelites.
Whyever would that be the case?
Dune > garage cat pee
I happen to enjoy Lynch's Dune and the smell of a parking garage equally. If you don't, you're the one with bad taste. The new movie is not as good as Lynch's Dune but I like the aesthetics of the buildings more. They just miscaste the movie horribly. The only good casting in the new movie are Oscar Issac and Josh Brolin. Irulan should have been Jessica Biel with a de-aging filter.
Bardem > McGill tbqh
Josh Brolin is far too handsome to play Gurney
You might be onto something.
I do like that
>Irulan should have been Jessica Biel with a de-aging filter.
with five nights of good sleep and no makeup she doesn't need de-aging filter
Getta LOAD of these DUNES
Now theres a movie I'd PAY to watch
something something my worm something something