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>troons and children first!
>troon children and FtMs first
based
How the frick did he get away with it
He did not. He in prison.
>The captain has to go down with the ship!!!
Why?
The captain holds sole responsibility for every living thing on his ship. He or she must be prepared to make sure every single person escapes before the captain can leave.
It’s true. I went on a cruise ship once and tested this by being the last person on the ship to get off (I was pretending to have really bad diarrhea and would have to keep running back to the bathroom, or that I had forgotten my passport in my room; then I pretended that I dropped it somewhere. Basically I always had a new excuse.) The captain literally was standing by the ramp as I made it look like I was about to get off and then I was like oh I have to go back, until I was going to do it one last time and he just lit a cigarette and told me “I’m getting paid for this you know? You’re the one who looks stupid. Take your time.” I was so embarrassed that I just shrugged, apologized and started to walk down the ramp. But as soon as I walked past him he just muttered “I knew that would work you little punk” and then just stood in the way in case I tried to get back on.
Pretty based actually.
Are you moronic?
heh
rofl
Weapons-grade autism
Dude, same.
>Vada a bordo, cazzo!
how did the captain not take his own life after this whole fiasco? or is that more of a Japanese thing to do?
Costa Concordia or Sewol, which is worse?
Sewol, easily. I can't believe anyone takes Korea seriously as a country after reading about that shit.
then itaewon happened, due to once again bug government reasons
it was an occult ritual, how is that not serious you troony freak?
Sewol by far. It partly brought down the corrupt government. Too bad it was replaced by another corrupt government.
There is a good 2 part video on youtube from the channel Brick Immortar that went over it well. Literally everyone in charge was incompetent and a coward. US Navy ships literally standing by to assist but the Korea government was too busy trying to think of how this was going to impact their reputation so everyone just stood there watching without orders from above. And with what orders were given were carried out with about 5% effort. All of this caused the deaths of hundreds of primarily middle school children and teachers as all of the ship officers left the ship while leaving the intercoms repeating "stay in your cabins until further orders".
So many Asian countries have and follow that stupid fricking "save face" attitude about this kind of shit. Japan had it with that airliner crash that a US base was on standby to assist with rescue efforts immediately after it went down but was told to standby while the governmental authorities did absolutely nothing for hours, where a majority of passengers had survived the initial crash only to drown or freeze to death by the time help did arrive.
South Korea is definitely the worst when it comes to it though, they promoted a fraud and a criminal as an animal and human cloning genius in the early 2000's because of how desperate they were to have a national identity and to be number one on the world stage in something. BobbyBroccoli has good two part series on that too.
>the teachers that helped what few kids escape were found dead a year later
What the frick, no wonder people say this shit was ritual mass murder, the cult government still went and killed them after the fact for messing it up
Sewol.
Concordia was an incompetent shit show but it's not the same mixture of cold blooded absence of empathy, a systematic culture of obeying said apathetic authority, and 325 kids. I still can't wrap my head around it.
Sewol was so fricked up it's hard to imagine there wasn't something vastly more nefarious going on than just a ferry capsizing.
I don't know a thing about Costa Concordia but knowing what little I do about Sewol I doubt it could be as bad
Concordia didn't have the same level of cold blooded negligence and incompetence at every level. Like at least the coast guard bothered to show up at all, and then some.
>Vada a bordo, cazzo!
Yeah the Italian authorities actually did their job it was just the Captain of the ship/crew who were incompetent
Sewol by far
Can somebody gimme a QRD?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Schettino
>A transcript of a recorded conversation between Schettino and Gregorio de Falco, the on-duty Italian Coast Guard commander, was broadcast across news bulletins. It details a very angry De Falco repeatedly ordering Schettino to leave the lifeboat and return to the stricken Costa Concordia. De Falco did not believe Schettino's explanation of how he "fell" into the lifeboat, or his excuse for not returning to his vessel because it was "too dark" and the lifeboat had "stopped moving". De Falco also proclaimed to Schettino, "You’ve abandoned ship! I’m in charge now,” [19] At one point, De Falco was so angered at Schettino's excuses that he told Schettino, "Vada a bordo, cazzo!" (most literally "Frick, get on board!" but also translated as "Get the frick on board!", "Get on board, for frick's sake!", or "Get on board, dammit!"), but Schettino did not do so and was one of the first to reach land
>You’ve abandoned ship! I’m in charge now
>Listen Schettino, you may have saved yourself from the sea, but I will really hurt you... I will cause you a boatload of trouble
Absolute champion
>italy
lmao what a shitshow
>geology research is dum, you get no funding
>they predict some earthquakes but dont have the funding to go into details
>earthquakes hit, thousands die
>wtf buttholes why didnt you warn us down to the second
>thats it life in jail for you all
wew. frick being anybody in italy
need jared leto to play him in a movie.
>"frostmourne hungers. let none survive."
>we gaan
No child should have to bury their parent, escort all children down to the 3rd class cabins
It's the other way around, you basement dwelling autist.
why is the captain even expected to die on the ship, it's not like he designed or build it
it’s tradition. the icebergs captain did the same.
But he is responsible for the entire ship and all souls onboard. And he is not expected to go down with the ship, he's expected to be the last off. I vaguely remember there was some disaster in Italy years ago and the captain basically fled off the ship first, and his name was dragged through the mud.
Picture this from a guy who looks and sounds like the Mario Brothers.
>name dragged through the mud
He literally got 16 years prison time lel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costa_Concordia_disaster#Trials
In the case of Captain Smith, he probably didn't go down with the ship. Several eyewitnesses claimed to have saw him jump and a few men on the upside down collapsable boat claim to have picked him up but he died from the extremely cold water
Lots of myths and legends that didn't actually happen. ~~*Straus*~~ couple didn't hold hands and accept fate, they frantically tried to get on life boats. The band didn't keep playing, they stopped a lot earlier. Ismay didn't dress like a woman and was not at all a coward.
Whether or not he killed himself is kind of irrelevant because all accounts list him as being completely useless and indecisive during the evacuation.
I’ve seen nothing that says the Strauses tried to get on lifeboats, Isidor gave up his chance to escape because he refused to go before younger men, and Ida refused to leave him.
>~~*Straus*~~
German name /misc/friend.
The biggest legend surrounding the Titanic is that it sank in one piece.
>eyewitness accounts say the ship split in half
>"uh no sweaty it was super sturdy and well-built it stayed in one piece"
>eyewitness accounts say the ship split in half
That's not true though. Some say it did, others didn't. And since Lightoller said it didn't, and he was the highest surviving officer, they went with that story.
You have to keep in mind that when the ship broke it didn't break at the obvious angle you see in the movie but lower. On top of that it was actually pitch fricking dark. They probably only saw the silhouette of the ship. There was no blue Hollywood lighting shining on the ship like Cameron's movie.
I actually found an interesting video on youtube that showcases how dark it most likely was:
>The band didn't keep playing, they stopped a lot earlier.
They used their instruments as weapons to beat down any Irish trying to make it to a lifeboat.
Do you have a single citation to besmirch the Straus's or are you just stupid?
There’s actually a few theories about Smith, but the only one that’s been authenticated was that after Titanic struck the ship he asked what happened, then he told the radio operators to send distress calls, and finally ordered the lifeboats to be filled. After that he was literally never seen again.
It gets stranger though, because not all the lifeboats were recovered and one was even found days later with rotting bodies in it. There’s also rumors that the SS Californian may have made a secret deal through lamp powered morse code where some wealthy passengers were secretly rescued by them, and there’s the “mystery ship” which some think was the Sampson (I think that’s what it was called) which was illegally seal hunting that night, but it was actually a lot farther away and didn’t have radio equipment. But then there was a ship that literally responded to the flares but then seemingly just kept going. There’s some lore that the captain and a baby were seen jumping into the water right when that ship rolled by, and that then it sailed away.
It’s not completely unimaginable that someone could start a new life in America at that time and never be heard from again. In fact, during that time the US had a huge problem with criminals from other countries (Ireland in particular) who would stowaway in ships and then just change their names when got to the US. My grandfather himself came from a wealthy Spanish family and he hated his dad so when he got he to America he just straight up said his name was something else and they just gave him a new identity.
It’s very likely that what we think happened on Titanic was probably very different in real life. There were some claims that even the water wasn’t even that cold for some reason and that it was mostly people that just drifted out into the sea and then a whole bunch that might have even gone back to bed thinking everything would be fine.
All we have are the stories told by passengers, and people lie and misremember things. I think the water was definitely freezing though, that's something that anyone could easily test and other ships in the rescue efforts almost surely did to gauge whether or not to search for survivors.
>water freezing
Look up: Charles Joughin
He was the irl chef who was the last one to go down with the ship. He treaded water for two hours and even when he reached a boat they wouldn’t let him on. When interviewed he said that the water wasn’t cold but the atmosphere outside the water was, therefore he made sure to keep most of his body submerged in the water, and wasn’t wearing a life jacket.
Btw I went through my beach bum phase and have witnessed this odd thing happen several times where it’s fricking freezing outside but the water is fine, but the moment you come out of the water it’s a race against time to get your wet clothes off and into something dry. My theory is that something similar like that was happening with the water but the people with life jackets were wet and then bobbing up and down in the water with their upper bodies exposed to the wind chill, thus accelerating hypothermia.
The water was 28 degrees
Their bodies got too cool and their hearts stopped by
where the frick do you find ocean water that is 28 degrees? that's hot tub levels of warm. and how the frick do you manage to freeze in that?
28 Fahrenheit, dummy. That's -2 in third worlder.
stop being a moron American who uses farenheit moron, pretty much the only moron country who uses it (the other ones being third worlder countries which you seem to despise)
Fahrenheit is better than Celsius for temperatures humans experience. I'll give you meters though. Also, American website.
>American website.
kek
>Christopher Poole (born 1988), also known online as moot, is an American internet entrepreneur and developer. He founded the anonymous English-language imageboard Cinemaphile in October 2003.
Yup, this is an American board created by an American. That anon is not wrong.
>Cinemaphile office in Tokyo
Wtf do they do all day there?
how is it better.
>how is it
I objectively think it's better because 0-100 isn't enough to measure, the difference between 68-70 is even noticably different to me. Not nearly enough degrees in Celsius
you are aware of decimal points, right
Shut the frick up yurotard
Their "achually it is better because it's made based on the temp that humans are comfortable in" is so very fricking moronic, it's insane.
Okay it’s not hot tub levels of warm dude, BUT it’s also not immediate hypothermia temps either.
>Charles Joughin
>1 drunk person survived for two hours
Out of the hundreds that were in the water, one dude lived. He was drunk and probably fell out of a life boat so came up with a wild story to be less embarrassing.
Yeah, no. The water was fricking cold. A big hint is that they were all killed by a giant ice cube.
Questions concerning whether the water around the giant block of ice is cold aside, the phenomenon you're describing is a real thing. When you leave water and are exposed to air that has an air temperature lower than your body heat, the water evaporates off of you and takes heat with it. This is how sweat works, and is something anyone who gets out of shower without drying right away will experience. It's feasible that the chefs story is partially true, his body may be acclimated to the cold and keeping his body insulated by the water maybe saved him. Hard to imagine though, given that the water temp would have been cold enough to cause hypothermia in 5 minutes
Jfc, where to even start with this. Yes, the water was obviously freezing if there are giant icebergs in it. That's not just some random couple of eyewitnesses saying it was cold. It was 100% freezing, around 28 degrees Fahrenheit. Also, where the frick is Captain Smith going to hide in America? He would've had the one of the most recognizable faces in the country at the time, with his picture being in every newspaper. And why would the Californian only agree to pick up certain passengers? They would've had plenty of room on board.
Conspiracy Theories are a comforter for many. It helps them make sense of the world.
There's a shit ton of ice in Alaska too and it isn't cold there either. There's a difference between cold temperature and absence of heat. Ice doesn't just melt if the temperature is warm. Salt also has an effect in slowing down the melting of ice. .
> There's a shit ton of ice in Alaska too and it isn't cold there either.
Anon, it was fricking April and they were near Newfoundland which is in Canada. That water was 100% freezing
meds
pills
tablets
poppers
drugs
Smith might have shaved and got onto a boat pretending to be some 3rd class passenger. But I sincerely doubt it.
holy shit meds now
>But then there was a ship that literally responded to the flares but then seemingly just kept going.
Back then, flares either meant a distress signal or just a signal for other similar boats. After the disaster, they changed it so it could only mean a distress call.
I love the schizo posts attempting to disguise themselves as sane ones.
/misc/ is so goddamned fricking stupid Jesus Christ
>There were some claims that even the water wasn’t even that cold
Off the coast of fricking Newfoundland in an ice field at midnight? Could you have started your idiot post with this sentence at least so I'd have known better than to read all the way through it.
>one was even found days later with rotting bodies in it
it was one of the half-submerged ones that one of the officers put some of the people who died in the boats during the night in
No, one account said he was in the water with some other men and a lifeboat came by them but there was no room so Smith said that's all right and encouraged them to make it.
he's not expected to die, just not run off if shit hits the fan
Something a female wouldn't understand
It's a matter of honor. Captains are the highest authority on a ship and with that comes the expectation you should see to the safeguarding of the souls on board. Once everyone (or almost everyone) is off and in relative safety, then the Captain can disembark.
Keep in mind there can always be stragglers or people who had unfortunate circumstances, so those cases a Captain is generally not faulted for leaving the ship. Captains aren't omniscient and don't have vidya UIs to see '2398/2400 on lifeboats'.
Accurate
A British naval captain that did not die with his ship would be tried and executed for cowardice. This also meant his wife wouldn't receive a widow's pension. So a captain going down with the ship ensured his name wouldn't be besmirched and cared for
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Byng
Byng’s death had nothing to do with leaving a sinking ship before all others have abandoned the craft. Did you even read the wiki u linked?
So they're forced to value the crew and passengers
Weeds out morons
I own a small tinny and always honour the code when I crash. It doesn't mean you have to die, though. I just go down with it a bit and swim back.
It's his job not to frickin kill everybody so he has to suffer the consequences.
he's the one who drove it into an iceberg. Least he can do is stay at the scene and fill out paperwork.
He didnt go down with the ship. Irl he was in the water trying to save himself. Theres even reports of the titanic captain giving a its every man for himself speech before it sank. He died freezing in the water with every one else.
They’re not anymore they’re just supposed to remain onboard until everyone else is off. If they’d had enough lifeboats Smith would’ve left the ship on one. But you can tell from accounts of his behavior he knew they were fricked. He gave no real direction and disappeared, because there was nothing anyone could’ve done.
he's worried about looking like a coward
Anglo responsibly, Asians wouldn’t understand
It's a white thing, you wouldn't get it.
He actually expected the Titanic to stay afloat until help arrived and the lifeboats were a deathtrap in those waters at night.
whos policy was it to trap all the 3rd class passengers in the lower part of the ship while it flooded? was that hollywood embelishment or did they actually do that?
hollywood embelishment, they weren't trapped but they were mostly ignored so many didn't fully understand what was going on or what to do.
Third class was definitely fricked, but children were still the number one priority, even third class children, so I doubt third class was intentionally trapped by anyone.
imagine being the only first class child that died lmao
It was the one that the captain jumped off the ship with. Presumably a love child he had with him on board.
Her father was separated from the family, but mom heard that apparently he was on the other side of the ship. They went to go find him and couldn’t make it on a boat
>I doubt third class was intentionally trapped by anyone
there are dozens of firsthand accounts of the gates being kept shut for over 90 minutes after the berg strike
More third class passenger males literally survived than first class passenger males.
because there were more third class men overall, dipshit. 31% of first class males survived. 14% of third class males survived
>1690 men
>425 women
What a sausage fest..
most were crew
Still doesn't change the fact it was a gay party ship..
That's probably what it was, a bunch of gay men fricking each other in the middle of the freezing sea because they wouldn't be caught there
I can find zero records online that none of the passengers WEREN'T gay, including the crew
Gross
most of the third class women were irish
Even more of an excuse that the men were gay, I don't think you'd willing frick an irish woman
>ew, who'd want to frick that
>btw everyone is gay, except me, I'm obsessed with gays and calling everything gay, gay gay gay
Not saying everyone is gay lad, just most if not all the crew and passengers were very obviously closested homosexuals who want to frick each other without a care in the middle of the ocean.
was it even a 90 day trip? british maritime law only punishes homosexualry for the first 90 days out of port, after that, every semens fair game
Sauce?
>almost 2-3 crew passanger ratio
Holy frick
Pretty much everyone in the Engineering Department was doomed
Engineers, being the shittiest department underway yet again
Yes, women rarely traveled during that time, they stayed home and raised their children
>children were still the number one priority
>49% children died
>versus 26% loss on women
I guess it makes sense, small children had less of a chance of making it in cold weather or even running out of the ship in the first place.
why did a higher percentage of third class men and women survive than second class yet the survival rate of third class children was abysmal next to second class children
the dirty micks abandoned their children didn't they
iirc some doors were locked in the hope that it would funnel the passengers into the direct route to the boat deck but since a lot of them didn’t understand that the ship was sinking it only added to the confusion
>able bodied hetero sexual white males to the back you will all be dying in ww1 in a few years time anyway
this is the white male patrarichy
>Send out telegrams my lord, you must call for aid
>And who will come? The French? The Irish?
>The Californian will answer
>The Californian? Where was she when E deck was flooded? Where was she when the water closed in around us? Where was sh- No Mr. Andrews, we are alone
>but captain you swore an oath to go down with the ship
>frick that shit I never thought it’d happen I WANT TO LIIIIIIIIVE DAMMIT MOOOOOOOOOMMMY
>*shoves every roastie and Black person child out the way*
the 1912 Costanza
>hmm, smells like ice
dude had to push through seven fricking people and was the first to open a fricking door. he saved lives, none of those other buttholes could save themselves
huh, apparently, the titanic had just 1 (one) black passenger on board, this dude. he didnt make it, but everyone else in the picture did. kinda based.
>aww hell naw I knew a homie didn’t belong on no boat, damn white people bringing me out here. Hittin ice and shit.
>the black guy dies first in titanic too
>WHITE DEVIL AHEAD
>bro im right here, jesu-
>grinding noises
Me and not even ashamed of it.
>I wouldn't dream of letting those poor Irish drown like dogs I'll shoot them myself
Would rather be shot then drown tbh
T. Irish
I just glanced at your post and I read it as
"I'd rather be short than irish"
>Mr. Murdock, I'll be damned if I see you let any Black person, Hispanic, israelite or zipperhead onto these lifeboats.
>They are to be reserved for only pure creatures in this world, cunnies.
>If this is to be our end, then I would have them make such an end, as to be worthy of remembrance!
Where was Gondor when the iceberg hit? Where was Gondor the Irish closed in around us?
People shit on potato eaters but according to many officers the most appalling and loathsome out of all passengers were wops. Jumping on lowered boats en masse, pretending to be women. All them.
The "women first" rule is so fricking moronic when you consider they are just frick holes built to please men while men build civilization.
It was a time when real men lived and honor meant something.
If you have 1 man and 100 women, you can rebuild civilization by impregnating all 100 women at once. If you have 100 men and 1 woman, then she'll just get gangbanged to death and then the men murder each other. It's simple logistics, biology doesn't care about your feelings.
OK, following the same logic you're using to justify the GENOCIDE of innocent males, from now on we must draft exclusively females who are over 40, and leave the males alone.
Most women who are over 40 cannot have children. Males can have children in their 50s, their 60s...
And leaving this aside, if civilization isn't going to treat males as human beings, it deserves to stop existing as far as I'm concerned.
tbf, the women and children policy is mostly because women are fricking useless and thought of as children. for some reason we've decided to entertain their delusions these days that they are le equal to men.
Kek I can smell your curry-stained hands from here
Yes, but that was the times. Today it'd be everyone for themselves and the eventual movie would be kino.
That’s what the Koreans did
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Arctic_disaster
Imagine being the last person on the Titanic before it went completely under, and you survive with a sore foot because you were too hammered to feel the water
>that dude who just immediately died when they hit the iceberg because he was right next to a boiler that get hit with water
why did the crew have guns?
they knew there were Irish onboard
Murdoch liked the Irish, otherwise he would've disincluded them when he says "2200 souls" to Smith
Believe it or not mutinies and pirates were still a very real danger back then. Hell they still are even now. Out in the middle of the ocean with no protection whatsoever, what would’ve stopped a ship armed to the teeth from boarding the ship and stealing all the israeliteelry, money, and even PEOPLE. One could make a lot of money kidnapping rich people and then selling them back to their relatives. If I’m not mistaken I do believe that may have even been on of the reasons the SS Californian didn’t respond, even to the flares.
>Captain, the Titanic is sinking, should we respond
>Did they have Irishmen in steerage
>Well yes, but
>Shut off the wireless and go to bed, send no reply
>Women and children f-
GET OUT OF MY WAY
sir can we stop the gaping hole with the Irish?
Jacks the only one who has taken care of the gaping hole before.
dvda it is sir
Was the Titanic sinking or the massive popularity of an average movie about a ship more improbable?
old bong speak is great
was he CGI ?
>How many buckets do we have on board, Mr Andrews?
>sir, a second iceberg has hit the Titanic
>tfw no gf
>ARISE ARISE RIDERS OF THE CAPTAIN
>HULLS SHALL BE BROKEN
>COMPARTMENTS SHALL BE SHAKEN
>ERE THE MOON RISES
>should we have lookouts facing the bow?
>no, that is exactly what the icebergs would expect us to do. focus all lookouts on the stern
why didn’t the people in the water just climb onto the iceberg and wait for help?
It was clearly a hostile berg, anon.
Because iceberg fled the scene since it was dui.
>having a trust in ((berg))
ngmi
It was closed for the night.
Iceberg would have flipped the moment it felt Irish footsteps.
>"The Irish last"
The way he said it while loading his pistol was rather ominous
How do non-whites cope with the fact that if the crew of the ship and it's passengers were swapped with any other race nobody would care about the film and it would have completely flopped?
James Cameron is a genius
for me, its the morons who call out to their corporate help number to say "ummm its probably nothing but we're kinda listing unrecoverably to one side b-but I promise we'll still make our quotas please dont fire me" instead of declaring an emergency and then they capsize with all souls aboard 15 minutes later episode