I've often wondered why the ZZ is a design that has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the Z family. You'd think that the Double Zeta would be a second, newer Zeta, but no. I think that AE just made a completely unrelated machine but slapped the Zeta name on it just for brand recognition
I feel like ZZ was forced by Bandai.
Tomino made Re-GZ (refined Gundam Zeta) for CCA instead of making something out of ZZ and it took ZZ 10 episodes to appear despite it being the titular mech.
>It improved in quality as it went on
No it didn't. It lost all bite and stakes as it went on. It leaned into the ZZ hijinxs, did nothing with the romance, didn't even threaten any of the main cast with death, caused character like Mihm(?) to change personalities to suit the show after she and her team were portrayed as comically evil, spent too much time with the team trying to find the secret base, changed Meiyo's follower's personalities from evil buttholes to crybabies and the war was mostly solved off screen in a few episodes.
The stakes got higher and higher as the show went on. I don't think you watched it, because if you did why would you consider Kaine's mother being taken hostage and Plato being framed not raising the stakes?
Is character's changing not a possibility to you?
He's right about most of the war being solved off screen as they kept repeating that montage of Dragoon units sweeping the Giganos forces off the Earth. Even Bennett from Commando guy's big plan was a bit simplistic. And they recycled the Gilgazamune a third time for the final boss.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You'd have to prove that any of those things are inherently bad though.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I think they show was at its best when it emphasized Kaine, Tap, and Light being a bunch of delinquent kids who were also best friends because it's how they managed to overcome the Practice squad and Meio's more straight laced military discipline. As the show went on you could tell Bandai came back with sales numbers for the model kits because D-1 and D-2 get upgraded but D-3 just can't because of a technobabble excuse. Light and Tap also stop contributing much to the battles aside from being Kaine's wingmen. And when Min and Meio ally with the good guys, Light and Tap get even less to do.
Kaine's mom isn't important. She was absent for 99% of the show and Kaine even stopped mentioning her because it made Tap upset. It ultimately led to nothing since Kaine didn't even do anything bad when be was forced to fight his friends. The show even threw in a comically evil member of their forces so that Kaine could fight against "the good guys" without having to actually dirty his hands. Plato being framed meant nothing. He wasn't even evil before that and suffered nothing from being framed. He got a fakeout death and then came back with his boytoys, commandeered a ship and became the main character essentially. Mihm's change in personality was far too quick and only to serve for her being Meiyo's love interest. She went from using people, cackling like a psychopath, using her charm to seduce people to being wholesome, stuttering like a maiden and tamed. The boytoys were evil buttholes who killed a man over fame to crying b***hes for the rest of the series. Then you have Meiyo being sent off to fight in the worst parts of the war as a punishment but that led to nothing. He didn't suffer. He wasn't hardened. He didn't lose a battle. He was the same person he was before he left. That whole plotline was pointless.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>she's not important because she just isn't
😐 >Kaine didn't even do anything bad when be was forced to fight his friends
Why is this bad writing? >Plato being framed meant nothing
because it just didn't? Why not? >She went from using people, cackling like a psychopath, using her charm to seduce people to being wholesome, stuttering like a maiden and tamed.
Explain why this is bad >The boytoys were evil buttholes who killed a man over fame to crying b***hes for the rest of the series. Then you have Meiyo being sent off to fight in the worst parts of the war as a punishment but that led to nothing. He didn't suffer. He wasn't hardened. He didn't lose a battle. He was the same person he was before he left. That whole plotline was pointless.
So he necessarily must change? Why? Because you said so? Lol
This isn't even consistent with what you said in the last few sentences.
You haven't presented any arguments at all. You're making an account of what happened in the show and not describing why it is good or bad.
I think they show was at its best when it emphasized Kaine, Tap, and Light being a bunch of delinquent kids who were also best friends because it's how they managed to overcome the Practice squad and Meio's more straight laced military discipline. As the show went on you could tell Bandai came back with sales numbers for the model kits because D-1 and D-2 get upgraded but D-3 just can't because of a technobabble excuse. Light and Tap also stop contributing much to the battles aside from being Kaine's wingmen. And when Min and Meio ally with the good guys, Light and Tap get even less to do.
>I think they show was at its best when it emphasized Kaine, Tap, and Light being a bunch of delinquent kids who were also best friends because it's how they managed to overcome the Practice squad and Meio's more straight laced military discipline
I agree, partially. Their bond is a dramatic strength but its lack of presence, or at least its lessened emphasis in the later episodes, though a detriment, does not contribute to a net decrease in quality.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Why is this bad writing?
It is a little silly that right after Kaine executes Dorchenov's underling with the power of Obari he's right back to being a happy jokester in his giant robot. It makes it seem like the kidnapped mom plot was just stalling for time so the show could reach a certain number of episodes.On the matter of Dorchenov himself, it's kind of funny he had mass-produced Gilgazamune units ready to go but that tubby guy never got to tell him about the fatal flaw in their programming. Overall Dragonar is fine, but it's a little disappointing it didn't aim higher.
>It improved in quality as it went on
I can respond to this because I watched the show just 2 weeks ago. The show has 48 episodes, but by episode 44 the villain is already in an unwinnable situation, and those last 4 episodes are just him running away like a b***h (from a secondary character, even!) and almost nothing happens at all. They didn't even bother animating anything for the final battle, they just reuse the Gilgazamune shots from the prior episodes and repainted his mech.
Dragonar actually had very good episodes, specially at the end of the Gun Jem arc, but to say it increased in quality as it went on is just disingenuous.
>crazy dude's (the one with the blue cravat) mech is bisected by Dragonar >Dragonar's sword touches the top of his head, cutting his hair >think it's gonna be a comedic scene >his mech actually explodes on his face and he dies
I certainly didn't expect that.
9 months ago
Anonymous
If I recall a few episodes prior had a squad of those Gan-Dolla getting attacked from the inside by that Dragoon captain and his men where they were crawling around each giant bike like it was a scene from Indiana Jones.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I know which episode you're talking about. What's weird is that just a few episodes prior to that, those dudes that piloted Dragoons try the same thing, but are totally gored by the giant tires. That episode where they run up the tire like a Looney Tunes show has a completely different tone from the rest of the series. I wonder if it was directed by someone else. It felt more like Xabungle than Dragonar.
9 months ago
Anonymous
There's a couple of episodes prior to that similar to that kind of tone. Like when they go on a commando raid in an attempt to capture some Schwalg units from an enemy base ends up with all them falling into the water (in the robots) and essentially failing the mission because the base blows up from their antics.
That mad max arc is where I dropped the show. I still want to finish but whenever I think about resuming I remember the mad max and forget about it. It's a shame because I really liked the ballistic weapons over yet more pew pew lasers, the EWAR mech was interesting, I liked that there was a main trio instead of one whiney protagonist, and I liked the color palette.
It never lives up to that first opening but that's okay because once the Dragonars get to Earth they got to reuse as much as they could from the OP before they get upgraded.
Where do the two halves even split? Is everything before Gon Jem the first half?
Dragonar feels like Dunbine and L-Gaim in some places, because there's a string of episodes where they just piss at each other with guns and nothing happens.
It's like this: they reach Earth on episode 11, and Gun Jem only appears in episode 24. Gun Jem is high point of the show, but even then it only starts to get good on episode 31 or something (he's killed on episode 39). You'll know you've reached the "good episodes" when the first of Gun Jem's minions actually dies. Like someone said above, the second of the minions has a sort-of unexpected death: the scene is played for comedic effect at first, but his mech just explodes on his face and he dies.
Vifam is a pretty unique show, the only real letdown about it is the Char-clone character just doesn't fit in, and the last OVA undid a bit of the ending.
I like that the staff clearly loved the Falguen so much that they couldn't bring themselves to even suggest it exploded after Plato takes out the mass-driver. He plopped down on Earth in an escape capsule while the Falguen turned into a big blue falcon to be reborn when it was needed again.
You're acting like a child. If you need somebody to explain to you why it's bad writing for characters to suddenly change personality because the plot demands it, you need to stick to picture books.
Actually I was going point by point dissecting your post but realized you don't even understand basic storytelling so I erased my post and accidentally erased your post number.
Not making an argument right now. I'm calling you a child for asking stupid questions.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>you aren't allowed to ask questions whose answers would refute my point >ur a child btw
lmao
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Why do characters need to be consistent? >Why is introducing a villain that undercuts the protagonist switching sides bad? >Why is the protagonist's mom popping up at the end of the series after the war is basically won to force drama bad? >Why am I being called a child for asking questions that are common sense for basic storytelling?
lol, lmao even!
9 months ago
Anonymous
>basic storytelling
There's that cope again lol
Can you tell me where the basic storytelling rulebook is and on whose authority it is enforced, and why?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Bro I don't think you're going to listen to that guy no matter what he says and I'm here saying the show is pretty mid.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm here saying the show is pretty mid.
Oh I agree it's like a 5/10 overall, but that doesn't change the fact that his "storytelling" "criticisms" are irrational lol
9 months ago
Anonymous
>actually there are no consistent themes that form the basis of writing >most stories don't have a basic similar structure! >still wonders why he's called a child
lmao!
9 months ago
Anonymous
So you admit there are no actual rules for a narrative? Yeah that's what I thought
9 months ago
Anonymous
>types in rules for a narrative on Google >Get a million results
Jeez, you're not even trying.
Your argument is that the show can introduce ideas and then do nothing with them. Whether that be Kaine's mother being introduced too late, Meiyo being sent to the worst part of the war with everyone acting like he's going to die but him coming back with zero changes, Kaine being forced to switch sides only for the show to introduce a comically evil guy in his former forces so nobody feels bad about him fighting him, Mihm and the boytoys switching personalities to suit the plot, all of the romance leading to nothing etc. The funny part is that you even admit the show is pretty bad but want to argue for the sake of arguing.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Not even reading that lmao, >I looked it up and found a bunch of articles saying there are rules with no authority to enforce them or even prove they are true
You are legitimately not qualified to speak to me. Funny that you think otherwise though
9 months ago
Anonymous
Are you Rian Johnson? Are you expectations subverted by Dragonar?
It's weird how much sense this makes once you learn even rudimentary japanese. Like, you can just imagine what the translator was thinking at the time.
"Fish" comes from the "koi" of shitsukoi (impertinent, persistent).
No I agree Meio Plato being framed didn't amount to much because he already disliked Dorchenov and still had the support of the named characters who all had model kits on the shelves.
Kaine does get reminded of his mother a few times before that but it's all flashbacks because he ran into his father and grandmother. The episode with the grandma has a great exchange between her and the Giganos soldiers where she speaks pidgin English that sounds like it was a very real encounter.
I must ask: where was it ever stated Dragonar was an attempt by Sunrise and Bandai to replace Gundam before the success of Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack convinced them to continue with Gundam to the point alternate universes were invented in the 1990s starting with Mobile Fighting Legend/Mobile Fighter G Gundam?
That story is just bad internet rumors mashed together. Dragonar took over the ZZ timeslot, so in that sense it was a direct Gundam replacement. However, the next show afterwards was Samurai Troopers, so not an attempt at a Gundam replacement at all, more like a Saint Seiya clone. And this show would be in production before they could see any numbers from CCA (Well, there was Ulysses 21 between Dragonar and Samurai Troopers, but it was an old anime and just aired for a few weeks, basically seems like timeslot filler while they finished Samurai Troopers).
She was drunk as a skunk, but she still clearly advanced towards him in an impulse. Are you implying he should just have left her alone or something? He had her best interest in mind, but it still happened.
This should have been ZZ since it's very close to Zeta's design, unlike ZZ that doesn't share anything with Zeta except the color pattern
I've often wondered why the ZZ is a design that has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the Z family. You'd think that the Double Zeta would be a second, newer Zeta, but no. I think that AE just made a completely unrelated machine but slapped the Zeta name on it just for brand recognition
Zeta turns into a plane.
Double Zeta turns into two planes (and also one bigger plane).
I feel like ZZ was forced by Bandai.
Tomino made Re-GZ (refined Gundam Zeta) for CCA instead of making something out of ZZ and it took ZZ 10 episodes to appear despite it being the titular mech.
The length of time doesn't mean much. Even the Zeta Gundam took a while to appear and its design in the first OP isn't even what they went with.
Wasn't ZZ actually Theta Gundam and was renamed by AEUG or AE into ZZ to mess with Neo Zeon.
>Ex-S
>very close to Zeta's design
No it's not.
Look at the face
Sentinel existed before Bayformers, genius
The upper body has some design cues from the Zeta but they're also more based on his version, the Zeta Plus.
That shit's a bayformer
you need to have a nice day now
Dragonar is a better show than double zeta despite the character writing being worse
double zeta goes hard tho
Dragonar was good until it became Mad Max with annoying characters and predictable Gundam story
It improved in quality as it went on
>annoying
not a valid criticism
the show has like only 4 cool characters
>the old man who trained the protags
>the black dude
>the blond hair dude
>and the not-Char
Another invalid criticism.
>It improved in quality as it went on
No it didn't. It lost all bite and stakes as it went on. It leaned into the ZZ hijinxs, did nothing with the romance, didn't even threaten any of the main cast with death, caused character like Mihm(?) to change personalities to suit the show after she and her team were portrayed as comically evil, spent too much time with the team trying to find the secret base, changed Meiyo's follower's personalities from evil buttholes to crybabies and the war was mostly solved off screen in a few episodes.
The stakes got higher and higher as the show went on. I don't think you watched it, because if you did why would you consider Kaine's mother being taken hostage and Plato being framed not raising the stakes?
Is character's changing not a possibility to you?
He's right about most of the war being solved off screen as they kept repeating that montage of Dragoon units sweeping the Giganos forces off the Earth. Even Bennett from Commando guy's big plan was a bit simplistic. And they recycled the Gilgazamune a third time for the final boss.
You'd have to prove that any of those things are inherently bad though.
I think they show was at its best when it emphasized Kaine, Tap, and Light being a bunch of delinquent kids who were also best friends because it's how they managed to overcome the Practice squad and Meio's more straight laced military discipline. As the show went on you could tell Bandai came back with sales numbers for the model kits because D-1 and D-2 get upgraded but D-3 just can't because of a technobabble excuse. Light and Tap also stop contributing much to the battles aside from being Kaine's wingmen. And when Min and Meio ally with the good guys, Light and Tap get even less to do.
Kaine's mom isn't important. She was absent for 99% of the show and Kaine even stopped mentioning her because it made Tap upset. It ultimately led to nothing since Kaine didn't even do anything bad when be was forced to fight his friends. The show even threw in a comically evil member of their forces so that Kaine could fight against "the good guys" without having to actually dirty his hands. Plato being framed meant nothing. He wasn't even evil before that and suffered nothing from being framed. He got a fakeout death and then came back with his boytoys, commandeered a ship and became the main character essentially. Mihm's change in personality was far too quick and only to serve for her being Meiyo's love interest. She went from using people, cackling like a psychopath, using her charm to seduce people to being wholesome, stuttering like a maiden and tamed. The boytoys were evil buttholes who killed a man over fame to crying b***hes for the rest of the series. Then you have Meiyo being sent off to fight in the worst parts of the war as a punishment but that led to nothing. He didn't suffer. He wasn't hardened. He didn't lose a battle. He was the same person he was before he left. That whole plotline was pointless.
>she's not important because she just isn't
😐
>Kaine didn't even do anything bad when be was forced to fight his friends
Why is this bad writing?
>Plato being framed meant nothing
because it just didn't? Why not?
>She went from using people, cackling like a psychopath, using her charm to seduce people to being wholesome, stuttering like a maiden and tamed.
Explain why this is bad
>The boytoys were evil buttholes who killed a man over fame to crying b***hes for the rest of the series. Then you have Meiyo being sent off to fight in the worst parts of the war as a punishment but that led to nothing. He didn't suffer. He wasn't hardened. He didn't lose a battle. He was the same person he was before he left. That whole plotline was pointless.
So he necessarily must change? Why? Because you said so? Lol
This isn't even consistent with what you said in the last few sentences.
You haven't presented any arguments at all. You're making an account of what happened in the show and not describing why it is good or bad.
>I think they show was at its best when it emphasized Kaine, Tap, and Light being a bunch of delinquent kids who were also best friends because it's how they managed to overcome the Practice squad and Meio's more straight laced military discipline
I agree, partially. Their bond is a dramatic strength but its lack of presence, or at least its lessened emphasis in the later episodes, though a detriment, does not contribute to a net decrease in quality.
>Why is this bad writing?
It is a little silly that right after Kaine executes Dorchenov's underling with the power of Obari he's right back to being a happy jokester in his giant robot. It makes it seem like the kidnapped mom plot was just stalling for time so the show could reach a certain number of episodes.On the matter of Dorchenov himself, it's kind of funny he had mass-produced Gilgazamune units ready to go but that tubby guy never got to tell him about the fatal flaw in their programming. Overall Dragonar is fine, but it's a little disappointing it didn't aim higher.
>It improved in quality as it went on
I can respond to this because I watched the show just 2 weeks ago. The show has 48 episodes, but by episode 44 the villain is already in an unwinnable situation, and those last 4 episodes are just him running away like a b***h (from a secondary character, even!) and almost nothing happens at all. They didn't even bother animating anything for the final battle, they just reuse the Gilgazamune shots from the prior episodes and repainted his mech.
Dragonar actually had very good episodes, specially at the end of the Gun Jem arc, but to say it increased in quality as it went on is just disingenuous.
In that secondary character's defense, it was great seeing Min be strong enough to bend a metal door through sheer strength alone.
>crazy dude's (the one with the blue cravat) mech is bisected by Dragonar
>Dragonar's sword touches the top of his head, cutting his hair
>think it's gonna be a comedic scene
>his mech actually explodes on his face and he dies
I certainly didn't expect that.
If I recall a few episodes prior had a squad of those Gan-Dolla getting attacked from the inside by that Dragoon captain and his men where they were crawling around each giant bike like it was a scene from Indiana Jones.
I know which episode you're talking about. What's weird is that just a few episodes prior to that, those dudes that piloted Dragoons try the same thing, but are totally gored by the giant tires. That episode where they run up the tire like a Looney Tunes show has a completely different tone from the rest of the series. I wonder if it was directed by someone else. It felt more like Xabungle than Dragonar.
There's a couple of episodes prior to that similar to that kind of tone. Like when they go on a commando raid in an attempt to capture some Schwalg units from an enemy base ends up with all them falling into the water (in the robots) and essentially failing the mission because the base blows up from their antics.
The next episode sequences all call her an amazon, too.
The very very end could've been handled better but you can't deny the second-half is in total better than the first.
Where do the two halves even split? Is everything before Gon Jem the first half?
That mad max arc is where I dropped the show. I still want to finish but whenever I think about resuming I remember the mad max and forget about it. It's a shame because I really liked the ballistic weapons over yet more pew pew lasers, the EWAR mech was interesting, I liked that there was a main trio instead of one whiney protagonist, and I liked the color palette.
That arc drags out too long and Kaine going to a mountain temple for sword training doesn't help the pace, but it almost ends satisfyingly.
I've been wanting to watch this for a while and it now sounds so disappointing.
It never lives up to that first opening but that's okay because once the Dragonars get to Earth they got to reuse as much as they could from the OP before they get upgraded.
it's a 7/10 show imo
give it a chance.
certainly doesn't deserve the hype from /m/ who likes shit like G-Reco and TTGL anyway
>likes shit like G-Reco
you got filtered by your brown IQ
Whites = Browns = Blacks = Yellow
God made all people equal
i've seen /m/ shit all over Vifam before and that not only became one of my favorite shows, it has the same director.
Dragonar feels like Dunbine and L-Gaim in some places, because there's a string of episodes where they just piss at each other with guns and nothing happens.
It's like this: they reach Earth on episode 11, and Gun Jem only appears in episode 24. Gun Jem is high point of the show, but even then it only starts to get good on episode 31 or something (he's killed on episode 39). You'll know you've reached the "good episodes" when the first of Gun Jem's minions actually dies. Like someone said above, the second of the minions has a sort-of unexpected death: the scene is played for comedic effect at first, but his mech just explodes on his face and he dies.
Vifam is a pretty unique show, the only real letdown about it is the Char-clone character just doesn't fit in, and the last OVA undid a bit of the ending.
I don’t mind the Char-clone but I do mind the fact no one raises an eyebrow in the OVA since the older lady basically raped one of the kids.
>since the older lady basically raped one of the kids
Uh... what?!
Kate, the woman who travels with them for the first 10 episodes or so. There's an episode where she wants SEX. SEX WITH RODDY.
>until it became Mad Max with annoying characters and predictable Gundam story
So EP 1 then.
They only descend to Earth in episode 11 or 12.
the Mad Max gang appeared around episode 20 IIRC
Too bad it only has horrible rips right now.
Do people here not watch the shows?
No
Wikipedia summaries will suffice
I watch them, gotta make pages on the /m/ wikia somehow.
I like that the staff clearly loved the Falguen so much that they couldn't bring themselves to even suggest it exploded after Plato takes out the mass-driver. He plopped down on Earth in an escape capsule while the Falguen turned into a big blue falcon to be reborn when it was needed again.
OP’s mom is gay
You're acting like a child. If you need somebody to explain to you why it's bad writing for characters to suddenly change personality because the plot demands it, you need to stick to picture books.
>doesn't have the balls to reply to me because he knows he's wrong
Nice assertion fallacy btw lol
Actually I was going point by point dissecting your post but realized you don't even understand basic storytelling so I erased my post and accidentally erased your post number.
>still no argument
>Still acting like a child
>ad hominem
not an argument either
Not making an argument right now. I'm calling you a child for asking stupid questions.
>you aren't allowed to ask questions whose answers would refute my point
>ur a child btw
lmao
>Why do characters need to be consistent?
>Why is introducing a villain that undercuts the protagonist switching sides bad?
>Why is the protagonist's mom popping up at the end of the series after the war is basically won to force drama bad?
>Why am I being called a child for asking questions that are common sense for basic storytelling?
lol, lmao even!
>basic storytelling
There's that cope again lol
Can you tell me where the basic storytelling rulebook is and on whose authority it is enforced, and why?
Bro I don't think you're going to listen to that guy no matter what he says and I'm here saying the show is pretty mid.
>I'm here saying the show is pretty mid.
Oh I agree it's like a 5/10 overall, but that doesn't change the fact that his "storytelling" "criticisms" are irrational lol
>actually there are no consistent themes that form the basis of writing
>most stories don't have a basic similar structure!
>still wonders why he's called a child
lmao!
So you admit there are no actual rules for a narrative? Yeah that's what I thought
>types in rules for a narrative on Google
>Get a million results
Jeez, you're not even trying.
Your argument is that the show can introduce ideas and then do nothing with them. Whether that be Kaine's mother being introduced too late, Meiyo being sent to the worst part of the war with everyone acting like he's going to die but him coming back with zero changes, Kaine being forced to switch sides only for the show to introduce a comically evil guy in his former forces so nobody feels bad about him fighting him, Mihm and the boytoys switching personalities to suit the plot, all of the romance leading to nothing etc. The funny part is that you even admit the show is pretty bad but want to argue for the sake of arguing.
Not even reading that lmao,
>I looked it up and found a bunch of articles saying there are rules with no authority to enforce them or even prove they are true
You are legitimately not qualified to speak to me. Funny that you think otherwise though
Are you Rian Johnson? Are you expectations subverted by Dragonar?
>Not even reading that lmao,
I know, I know lmao
Cope
the real zz
It's weird how much sense this makes once you learn even rudimentary japanese. Like, you can just imagine what the translator was thinking at the time.
"Fish" comes from the "koi" of shitsukoi (impertinent, persistent).
You can only watch it with the HK subs.
Someone had the best comment about this whole situation a while back. "Giganos is like if the substitute gym teach suddenly became the principal."
No I agree Meio Plato being framed didn't amount to much because he already disliked Dorchenov and still had the support of the named characters who all had model kits on the shelves.
Kaine does get reminded of his mother a few times before that but it's all flashbacks because he ran into his father and grandmother. The episode with the grandma has a great exchange between her and the Giganos soldiers where she speaks pidgin English that sounds like it was a very real encounter.
"Baby cry cry! I am very shimpai!"
I just told you that you were underqualified for this conversation and you proved me right
Thanks
Since the whole series is on youtube with HK subs, let me just post one of the highest points of the show, on Episode 37:
(start at 21:20)
Kaine just came back from some impromptu training with swords, and is fairing pretty well against Gun Jem.
If you just want to save yourself the pain, you can jump from the end of episode 44 to episode 48 without losing much of the plot.
I totally forgot about the terror of WEDLEY.
I'm disappointed this is what's available for the BD rip, as this is a really shitty encode.
Where did you get it?
nyaa.
liar
https://nyaa.si/view/1660816
Looks fine to me. Encode-autists piss me off like no tomorrow
Are you looking at this on a computer? It's blurred like an AI upscale, the lines and colours shouldn't look so smudged.
I must ask: where was it ever stated Dragonar was an attempt by Sunrise and Bandai to replace Gundam before the success of Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack convinced them to continue with Gundam to the point alternate universes were invented in the 1990s starting with Mobile Fighting Legend/Mobile Fighter G Gundam?
That story is just bad internet rumors mashed together. Dragonar took over the ZZ timeslot, so in that sense it was a direct Gundam replacement. However, the next show afterwards was Samurai Troopers, so not an attempt at a Gundam replacement at all, more like a Saint Seiya clone. And this show would be in production before they could see any numbers from CCA (Well, there was Ulysses 21 between Dragonar and Samurai Troopers, but it was an old anime and just aired for a few weeks, basically seems like timeslot filler while they finished Samurai Troopers).
>Kate, the woman who travels with them for the first 10 episodes or so. There's an episode where she wants SEX. SEX WITH RODDY.
If you're referring to this scene, it was an accident on Roddy's part to get Kate to stop resorting to alcoholism.
SEX
SEX WITH SHOTAS
She was drunk as a skunk, but she still clearly advanced towards him in an impulse. Are you implying he should just have left her alone or something? He had her best interest in mind, but it still happened.
The epitome of mecha art.
Y'know I can't disagree OP. It looks way more like a follow up to Zeta than ZZ does