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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Beg-we're Bow was better

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >yfw you learn that its main weapon was inspired by the Pear of Anguish, a torture device used against witches

    Wish I learned this sooner, makes the design so much cooler in retrospect.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      *allegedly used

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't that the anal spiked mace?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pear of Anguish is an expandable metal device. Back then, women who were accused of being witches gonna face this thing. The torturer shove it in their vegana or anus, then expand the thing until it causes internal injuries.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          What the frick I love Michaelis now. Not because of the anal butt toy thing, I’m just a sucker for real world allusions in fictional designs.

          God it’s so wasted on Shaddiq, why didn’t they give it to some gung-ho Dominicus witch hunter that actually cares about burying GUND tech.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Use it on all of them.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >None of them are Witches.

            I have a better idea and it starts with the twink.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why do they even exist? They serve no purpose other than fanserivce, which I like, and to maybe explore deeper meanings about Earthian-Spacian relations. Yet the latter just amounted to a single scene between Nika and Sabina that resulted in a bullshit pairing with no logical basis. Seriously, I see one more fanfic or photo pairing them together, I will break the headlights of luxury cars.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous
        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Puritan repression was so fricked

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yet he colluded with the Witches and didn't bear a grudge against Suletta in the 2nd season, it's an interesting weapon but the reference itself is meaningless

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ironically. Though from a design standpoint, it does make me appreciate Grassley's aesthetic a bit more, with them being the "Witch Hunters" Group.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Witch Hunter suit didn't witch hunt (not counting that cringe duel)
        >Inquisitor gundam wasted on a sibling spat.
        >Calibarn's witch hat got rejected.

        Why were they so afraid of their own shows theme?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Calibarn's witch hat
          HUH?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            It was Aerial's witch hat, Calibarn's broom was all JNTHED could get away with.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              you got any pics of the witch hat? or you gonna leave us high n dry?

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                It was only mentioned in interviews that JNTHED was asked to remove some of the more fantasy elements from Aerial and the one example he gave was a witch hat, no pics exist.

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I thought it was alright, give it a Gundam face and that should make it more popular. no one likes the Gyan face

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I doubt anyone interested in Silver Bullet or Tallgese 2.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Michaelis did nothing
    ftfy

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    i just avoid seeing what i don't want to see

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    It sucks that it's super anti-witch/Gundam weapon was only used once and was useless at it's only function. Michaelis could have been an actual threat instead of target practice for best Girl

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't help that it got the worst fights possible.

      >Only two fights.
      >Plays dirty, in both fights it's ganking a solo opponent with Shaddiq's harem and in the second one it's fighting with dueling regulations turned off against an opponent burdened with dueling restrictions.
      >Fighting unfairly isn't always bad, since it can be the mark of a threatening and successful antagonist.
      >Except he proceeds to lose BOTH of the beforementioned fights.

      It's a complete joke, I can't remember the last time an MS got disrespected this badly.

      >Take bland and inoffensive design
      >Pair it with a negative IQ baboon who is convinced he's a genius and has all the charisma of that nasty bit of food that gets stuck in your sink's drain
      No shit the kit will end up radioactive. It's astounding that they didn't predict this and change Shaddiq's character accordingly.

      It unironically would have done better as an elite grunt suit for Dominicus.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't forget that Sabina joined in at the end of the second fight too.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It unironically would have done better as an elite grunt suit for Dominicus.
        Imagine if it was actually Kenanji's MS. Seeing the fatty pilot one of the lankiest MS would have been hilarious.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Michaelis was specifically requested from Kenanji with an expansive wienerpit because he couldn't fit in the Beguir-Beu anymore.

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Take bland and inoffensive design
    >Pair it with a negative IQ baboon who is convinced he's a genius and has all the charisma of that nasty bit of food that gets stuck in your sink's drain
    No shit the kit will end up radioactive. It's astounding that they didn't predict this and change Shaddiq's character accordingly.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      It also fell flat because Shaddiq was pro-Gundam
      Like why would you give an inquisitor anti-witch mech to someone who wants to legalize gundams

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        almost like internal corruption and organizations not being what they pretend to be are a major theme

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Sarius is Anti-GUND
          >Dominicus, THE Witch Hunter organization solely uses Grassley suits.

          Nah I'm thinking Shaddiq was just shit and Michaelis was wasted on him.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Guin Lyneford should pilot it instead

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Weapon set

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Where's the colours?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Right there.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Time to fix G-witch writing! How would you write Shaddiq as a character?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Complete overhaul, just make him a Spacian who’s Sarius’s heir by blood, and his Father strongly imprinted his anti Gund ideals into him.

      When Suletta first arrives at Asticassia he keeps this under wraps at first, but as the show progresses he tries to sabotage Suletta in increasingly backhanded ways. Starting with the canon unfair 6v6 duel, which after he loses he resorts to more shady and even illegal tactics. Basically a foil to Guel, who wants to beat Suletta in a fair duel, Shaddiq doesn’t consider a Witch worthy of fair play, and is willing to do anything to take her down.

      Maybe the climax could be him tricking or framing Suletta so she has actual Dominicus witch hunters on her tail, or he tries to kill her himself by goading her into a duel but turning off Michaelis dueling regulations. In the end Suletta either kills him or makes him realize he doesn’t have to follow in his Fathers radical footsteps.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I like this more than this

        Shaddiq's fine conceptually, it's just that S2 fricked itself up by deciding Jeturk family drama is more important than the Earthian/Spacian conflict. All it needed was to spend more time with him and the Grassley girls, giving more insight into their characters and actually actively and meaningfully ideologically clashing with Miorine's moderate reformist approach, instead of just having him monologue Metal Gear exposition dumps at Sarius before having a madonna/prostitute incel breakdown.

        G-Witch's priorities were so fricked. I swear, just the removal of Guel alone would have fixed so many of its problems.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        This sounds good. It would actually fit Michaelis's and Grassley's overall theme too.
        I thought Shaddiq was a discount Macky but in the end he wasn't even that. He wasn't even entertaining.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shaddiq's fine conceptually, it's just that S2 fricked itself up by deciding Jeturk family drama is more important than the Earthian/Spacian conflict. All it needed was to spend more time with him and the Grassley girls, giving more insight into their characters and actually actively and meaningfully ideologically clashing with Miorine's moderate reformist approach, instead of just having him monologue Metal Gear exposition dumps at Sarius before having a madonna/prostitute incel breakdown.

      G-Witch's priorities were so fricked. I swear, just the removal of Guel alone would have fixed so many of its problems.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >muh guel
        Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I feel like the problem with Shaddiq is that he simultaneously takes away from the potential of Witch Hunters as antagonists (By just using Sarius all along instead of being loyal to him) and also overshadowing the Earth Witches by stepping in their territory of "Fighting for Earth".

        Those are two unique antagonistic factions who get stepped over to prop himself up, and the payoff he gave in return did not make up for those costs at all. Hence why I thought of

        Complete overhaul, just make him a Spacian who’s Sarius’s heir by blood, and his Father strongly imprinted his anti Gund ideals into him.

        When Suletta first arrives at Asticassia he keeps this under wraps at first, but as the show progresses he tries to sabotage Suletta in increasingly backhanded ways. Starting with the canon unfair 6v6 duel, which after he loses he resorts to more shady and even illegal tactics. Basically a foil to Guel, who wants to beat Suletta in a fair duel, Shaddiq doesn’t consider a Witch worthy of fair play, and is willing to do anything to take her down.

        Maybe the climax could be him tricking or framing Suletta so she has actual Dominicus witch hunters on her tail, or he tries to kill her himself by goading her into a duel but turning off Michaelis dueling regulations. In the end Suletta either kills him or makes him realize he doesn’t have to follow in his Fathers radical footsteps.

        , since it would be very easy to just fit him into being a legitimate Grassley loyalist while leaving the Earthian angle to the Dawn of Fold, instead of DOF being pawns he uses terribly.

        You talk about Guel, and you're probably right on some accounts, but I honestly feel like the issue is attributable to not just him but all three otome characters, who it feels like were all shoved in for the weird Utena school romance angle the show wanted. Guel should have stopped being relevant once the plot moved past low stake duels, and Shaddiq shouldn't have overshadowed the literal Earth terrorists when he's just a school prince in over his head. El4n was the only one of the three who didn't overstay his welcome, and even he was done poorly because his death has zero impact from simply not being known until the tail end of the show. (Peil should have been an actual midpoint threat Suletta has to expose/deal with instead of becoming a comedy bit in the epilogue because "Oops not enough run time!")

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Guel was supposed to pilot a gundam in the early stages. He was always supposed to be relevant.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Relevant sure, question is for how long he was meant to be relevant. Guel being made to pilot a gundam at first but then ending up as the "Pilot who doesn't need a gundam" suggests a drastic shift in role and importance. There's no point in comparing a draft scrapped so long ago to the new intentions for the character.

            [...]
            I like this idea, it makes sense. That could also have been used to expand Benerit's corporate politics more, and frees time from other factions. However, I feel DoF would still end up getting the shortest stick, especially if the Nika plotline is also included. If anything, rework DoF into more straightforward mercenaries, so episode 12 could still happen. Sophie and Norea could be reworked for some other antagonist faction to use, while still representing the pro-Earth agency.

            When DOF only gets introduced halfway into a 24 ep show it was always gonna be a challenge to do them justice. The way to do it would probably be to have Nika's bridge ideals actually pay off in the form of her swaying Norea to her side after recognizing her own faults, instead of all that time in the basement going to nothing except a dumb snitch apologist subplot with Martin. Nika believing in her ideals strongly enough to continue trying to reason with someone who nearly beat her to death would actually give her a strong standing for the bridge dream. Her own "Unrelenting tenderness" if you will.

            Then DOF can become an ally faction who come in to help the gang against Quiet Zero or SAL when they try to cover everything up by pulling a Vanadis 2.0.

            *Nika, Sophie and Norea
            This faction could be SAL, or even Peil, who managed to build Pharact thanks to Ochs Earth

            The thing is they technically are affiliated with the SAL? In canon DOF gets their gundams from Ochs Earth, who were being funded by the SAL all along behind the scenes for the express purpose of sowing discord in the Beneritt Group. DOF is basically a front to manipulate Earthian loyalists like Norea/Sophie into unintentionally doing the bidding of the Spacian government. But the show never makes it clear how aware they are of this, given how we see they're registered in the Ochs Earth database when Prospera goes to destroy the gundam cache, or what Norea says about Naji, which is just so vague and never delved into deeper.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Relevant sure, question is for how long he was meant to be relevant. Guel being made to pilot a gundam at first but then ending up as the "Pilot who doesn't need a gundam" suggests a drastic shift in role and importance. There's no point in comparing a draft scrapped so long ago to the new intentions for the character.
              Point is that complaining about Guel's screentime is very stupid when he was supposed to be a relevant character since the beginning. But sure, if you want to keep blaming S2's overall lack of quality in one character as if he had stolen the show like Jesus Yamato then by all means keep doing it.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but he's not complaining about his screentime, anon. He's saying that the three grooms plot in general took away a lot of attention to other things.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Other anon already said it for me, but yeah, my gripe in general is how the show bit off more than it could chew for the sake of checking off way too many things at once. Between the otome plotline and Earth/Space conflict, a common complaint I see for Gwitch is that 24 episodes wasn't enough, and you can clearly see it's because a 24 ep series shouldn't try to fit in two drastically different plotlines like this at once. They tried to do that and both sides suffered as a result.

                Is Guel part of the problem? Yes, it would be putting blinders on to deny that when he gets a ton of MS fights and the entire endgame plot puts itself on hold so he can have his own climax with Lauda in a random corner completely separate from Quiet Zero. But is Guel the sole aspect of the problem? No, that would just be needless blind character hate, which seems to be what you're mistaking my argument for. Even if you cut out Guel, you would still be juggling El4n, Shaddiq, El5n, Kenanji, Peil Hags, Prospera, Ericht, Sophie, Norea and the SAL as antagonistic forces. The ensemble cast in general did no favors for the show.

                These antagonists can be separated into two groups, those relevant to the small scale dueling conflicts in Asticassia, and those relevant to the wider world conflicts between Earth and space. The focus on the former detracted heavily from the time the latter needed, which is why everything felt so half-assed at the end. The epilogue tries to pull a "All the worlds problems are nearly fixed, it's a happy ending" direction without any of the major conflict antagonists being properly developed or addressed.

                Peil hags put children in an air fryer and we're supposed to just accept they aren't threatening anymore because the epilogue showed them as funny retirement hags. SAL was about to silence everyone at Quiet Zero with an illegal colony laser but apparently they're happy now because of some last minute paperwork Miorine pulled.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                24 episodes was more than enough time. G-Witch wasted 12 episodes doing next to nothing, then another 6 episodes barely doing anything at all.
                This isn't G-Reco where the world is super dense with dozens of important characters, political maneuvering, multiple factions within factions, and a setting that includes Earth, the Moon, and Venus while also dealing with shadow of UC technology and an apocalyptic war.
                G-Witch didn't even fully explore the school which was its only setting for 90% of the show. Making it longer than 24 episodes wouldn't have done anything except create even more episodes where the staff did absolutely nothing.
                The first thing G-Witch needs done to fix it is actually writing an actual plot and background with its entire staff replaced by people who want to do more than write a half assed yuri school. Saying that dropping characters would fix things is pointless because none of the characters mattered in the first place to the empty plot.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't know about that, I always felt like Gwitch was sufficiently dense enough, given it's basically a three faction setting, between the Beneritt Group, SAL, and Earth. Plus all these factions do have sub factions within them, like the separate companies in the Group, or the different Earth factions being pitted against eachother in war partitioning. (Of course, we only ever see the Dawn of Fold, as the show never bothers going into it deeply.)

                The fact that the school was the main setting and as you said, it was barely explored, points to the cause of the issue being that everything was spread too thin, which could have been remedied with more episodes. If you had to fix Gwitch with what you had on hand, the best way to do it would have been to actually dedicate to splitting the show into two halves, first for small scale school dueling, second for the actual meaty conflicts of the setting that the protag is pulled into once the rosy tint of the school setting is stripped away.

                So yes, replacing the staff with people who would have actually respected the importance of both halves instead of playing favoritism with one would have certainly helped the show out a lot, I agree.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Again, more episodes wouldn't have solved anything when they couldn't even write the basics for what does exists. Nothing was spread too thin because there was no spread in the first place. Beneritt Group is just Miorine's dad, SAL doesn't even exist until they need to justify Caliburn existing and need a villain to fire the colony laser so Aerial can do a Unicorn rehash, and Earth is such a nonentity that it's hilarious.
                There's more work put into the space elevator and SU-Cordism in G-Reco than the entirety of the universe of G-Witch.
                This show couldn't even show Mercury. Not even as a brief flashback.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well said, anon.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Complete overhaul, just make him a Spacian who’s Sarius’s heir by blood, and his Father strongly imprinted his anti Gund ideals into him.

          When Suletta first arrives at Asticassia he keeps this under wraps at first, but as the show progresses he tries to sabotage Suletta in increasingly backhanded ways. Starting with the canon unfair 6v6 duel, which after he loses he resorts to more shady and even illegal tactics. Basically a foil to Guel, who wants to beat Suletta in a fair duel, Shaddiq doesn’t consider a Witch worthy of fair play, and is willing to do anything to take her down.

          Maybe the climax could be him tricking or framing Suletta so she has actual Dominicus witch hunters on her tail, or he tries to kill her himself by goading her into a duel but turning off Michaelis dueling regulations. In the end Suletta either kills him or makes him realize he doesn’t have to follow in his Fathers radical footsteps.

          I like this idea, it makes sense. That could also have been used to expand Benerit's corporate politics more, and frees time from other factions. However, I feel DoF would still end up getting the shortest stick, especially if the Nika plotline is also included. If anything, rework DoF into more straightforward mercenaries, so episode 12 could still happen. Sophie and Norea could be reworked for some other antagonist faction to use, while still representing the pro-Earth agency.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            *Nika, Sophie and Norea
            This faction could be SAL, or even Peil, who managed to build Pharact thanks to Ochs Earth

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Time to fix G-witch writing! How would you write Shaddiq as a character?

    I think Shaddiq was fine the way he was. He was just very boring when the cast had more memorable characters than him.

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