>middle aged lawyer has his family killed then magically turns into one of the worlds best assassin because....he just does ok??
i've seen animes with more believable plots
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>middle aged lawyer has his family killed then magically turns into one of the worlds best assassin because....he just does ok??
>he was always middle aged and nobody ever trained him
Is there a way to filter thirdie posts?
yes, add Cinemaphile to your hosts file and your problem will be solved.
Sometimes if all you can do is be moronic, it's better to not post.
policing grammar is reddit
Obsessing over reddit is for the mentally deficient.
your getting your virtual ass kicked and fricked (sexually) by a stranger who is mentally deficient? heh
Why don't think learn how to type before you try greentexting? Trying to decipher the frick you meant is worse than 3rd world grammar.
The ironing
I changed my mind what I was going to type mid sentence. Excuse me. Still doesn't explain wtf you meant with your greentext.
>Excuse me.
You're not. Imagine handing out lessons when you don't even proofread your own post. Also: changing your mind halfway is something insecure little b***hes do.
>Why don't think learn how to type
He was send to CIA school shooter program.
The mexicans in sicario never feel threatening, theyre always just instantly killed. They should have had one of their guys get funkytowned if they wanted to up the stakes
>The mexicans in sicario never feel threatening
That's how it is IRL though. Gangbangers are only threatening to the average cattle who don't have the guts or brains to fight back. Most of them aren't trained like say a US Marine. In the face of Hollywood Master Assassin #456 they're scrubs.
actually a few cartels were funded by literal mexican ex army guys and cops
They kill politicians and have standoffs with the military all the time
>with the military
Which military anon?
Right.
>They kill Mexican politicians and have standoffs with the Mexican military all the time
Even the more “elite” cartel guys are still generally just scrubs. There’s that one pic I’ve seen of a van of so called cartel spec ops guys and they’re all out of shape wearing nothing but airsoft gear and not even ballistic helmets - but because a bunch of men in scary black uniform, Average Joe sees them and thinks they’re scary.
And I’m sure they are scary, if you’re some Mexican who sees that van roll up to your neighbors house and a dozen goons in tac vests roll out. But not if you know anything. Not in America certainly. I was in the marines and i don’t find the idea of them intimidating at all, which isn’t to say I’d want them to get their hands on me since I know how much they like boxes cutters. But I wouldn’t exactly be sweating if a van full of goons with M&P15s tried rolling up at my house. I’ve got enough hardware in my bedroom alone that would put them to shame. The only decent piece of gear they had in the aforementioned photo was the cellphone jammer mounted on the back of everyone’s vest.
Sometimes in the rekt threads on /gif/ you can see footage of cartel shootouts or hits, some of those guys are trained pretty well. Keep in mind they recruit ex cops and military as well, not just random bozos off the street.
Obviously American soldiers would steamroll them but average untrained people wouldn’t stand a chance and are right to fear them.
>Obviously American soldiers would steamroll them
obviously?
Clearly some fatbody support unit/national guard would probably get destroyed but even the most incompetent infantry or cavalry unit would probably knock them out pretty easily. Especially with artillery and mortar support. Ex police and military from mexico are usually trash.
Yep
In the words of a Marine Lt I used to play wargames with
>Fat morons, trannies, gays, doesn't matter. When they get the blood pumping and a rifle in their hand, they kill. They kill. They kill and kill and kill until there's no one left. Corn fed Idaho boys and glasses-wearing gays, they kill the enemy.
All the agitprop and Arab tier posturing about who's manlier means jack shit in modern war.
3rd world shit posters love to talk about visual manliness so much. None of that shit actually matters. It's actual closeted homosexual lust. When I go shooting with my range buddies some of whom look like dyed hair hipsters, 300 pound whales, and a skinny 4 ft meth head, they all finish ranger drills with at least marksman rating. How fricking tall you are, and chiseled your jaw is doesn't matter when the goal is to shoot a target.
Gayest post in the site right now.
As long as gays have trigger fingers they can shoot too.
theres a cool true story of some spec ops guys going to war against some crips in a neighborhood in seattle or something. never made into a movie because the good guys are white and bad guys are black. happened in the 90s i think
>They should have had one of their guys get funkytowned if they wanted to up the stakes
ARE YOU INSANE??
THEY LOWERED PROPERTY VALUES IN A SUB DIVISION
What about the beginning where theres a house full of rotted corpses and then a bomb?
wtf is "getting funkytowned"?
>wtf is "getting funkytowned"?
lurk moar
so i can see another example of someone mentioning it with no explanation?
its a cartel video of them skinning a man alive while the song funkey town plays in the background
>"Funkytown" is a song by American disco-funk group Lipps Inc., released by Casablanca Records in March 1980. It was written and produced by Steven Greenberg and released as the second single from the group's debut studio album, Mouth to Mouth.
They got funked on
You don't know if you're good at something until you try.
This!
Follow tracks on target's location or viciously interrogate anyone with info, recon, tool up, sneak, shoot, kill.
Luck? Skill? Pure ambition
>BUT THEY DRESSED UP ONE OF THE CHARACTERS LIKE LE HECKING MIKE VINING WHO IS GET THIS RIGHT WHO IS LIKE A BADASS OPERATOR...WITH NERD GLASSES!!
It's not Mike Vining, it's Bill Cronin
thanks for teaching me reddit operator lore, basedlords
> i've seen animes with more believable plots
Name 10.
boku no pico
Welcome to Juarez, anon.
Couldn't he have been in his 20's or 30's when they were killed?
You're being too reasonable anon.
I don’t think OP thought it through.
He was an infant baby
Some people have an aptitude for certain things. You don't know until you try.
Pretty sure it's implied by Josh Brolin's character that he's been in the game for a long time. Likely over a decade.
This ain't some moronic Breaking Bad shit where a lifetime of events happen in 13 months.
This but people in this thread really really want something to whine about. I always assumed that the murder of his family happened at least a decade ago and he had devoted his entire life to training to be able to take part in apprehending the people responsible ever since with hardly any downtime.
how much training do you think it takes to learn military tactics?
To be good at it the way he is it takes years of constant training.
Wasn't he trained by one of the other cartels?
Yeah one of the bad guys calls him Medellin as in the Colombian cartel
>Wasn't he trained by one of the other cartels?
He was a lawyer and family man in Columbia.
The implication of him being a lawyer, was that he was intelligent, and likely more intelligent than the average cartel thug.
It’s shown that he knows “influential politicians,
which is used to imply he wasn’t some low level “schlub” lawyer,
but one with connections to “influential people”, and the fact that his family was killed by a different Cartel, implies that he might have served as a lawyer to Columbian cartels.
In the second movie, it is specifically mentioned that he was trained or “created” by the CIA, so he likely was trained in Special forces type wetwork assassination training.
If an individual is committed to training, he could get decently trained in a couple years, with a few more years of hands on practice, maybe in Columbia or other areas of South or Central America, before getting sent in to kill higher value, better protected targets.
If the kawyer had already been involved with the Cartels, maybe as a lawyer, then he wouldn’t need to be trained on the politics of the Cartels, or trained in languages like Spanish, which US Special Forces soldiers would need to waste time on.
He was probably trained at the School of the Americas by the CIA like the founders of that cartel the Los Zetas were.
Two things, first, he could have been trained by the U.S. in the use of arms. Special operations forces have some pretty intensive training schools for shit like close quarters battle, long range shooting, breaching, etc, and they also have the funds to hire pro-shooters to instruct the boys how to shoot better.
Second, we don't know how long he's been working for the U.S., so he could very well be pretty experienced at the time of Sicario. Good training, plus experience, means you're going to have good dudes. Meanwhile, cartel guys are usually just criminals or ex-basic troops without the intensive training that U.S. dudes get, so it's not hard to outmatch them when it comes to shit like shooting.
>School of the Americas
The Army ran that, not the CIA.
>he Army ran that, not the CIA.
That's what they'd like you to think
I was on Ft. Benning for 9 years, kid. That's where the School of the America's was ran, and I saw their cadre. They taught basic b***h shit there. Nothing special.
I was in Colombia in 2016, around the time of the cease fire signing with FARC, and I will say the soldiers I saw on the street corners of Bogotá looked pretty lean and mean. They were mostly rocking 90’s era american surplus for gear, an equal mix of later model M16A1 and FN FNC rifles but they certainly looked more dependable than the city cops I saw. School of the Americas might have been basic infantry skills but combined with a few years of jungle warfare experience and you could find worse guys to do mercenary work.
Believe me, you have never heard the name of the super spooky training academy for LatAm spooks. Besides, CIA gets most of their Hispanic RWDS training done through the unit. Just like Los Pepes.
watch the docu-series The Last Narc. CIA even started a new mexican federal police agency and trained them, and many of them became bodyguards for the Guadalajara Cartel which was letting the CIA use their ranch w/ airstrip to train Contras and their drug money to arm them.
Sounds kino, realism is for Reddit
How do you respond without sounding mad?
Say an our father
I'll tell your wife and daughter you said: "Hi".
moron, he meant that towards the cartels bosses family
In the second movie is implied by the josh brolin character that he was trained by the CIA.
It was implied in the first one.
Gee, it's almost like being a lawyer involves perseverance and great aptitude for learning. I wonder if those qualities could be used for something else, too?
>it’s almost like
The calling card of the smarmy redditor. Yeah, big overlap between being a lawyer and an assassin you goofy homosexual.
> it's almost like being a lawyer involves perseverance and great aptitude for learning
WAHAHAHAHAHAHA
thats my silly laugh for when some1 says something silly
All we know about his past is that he was a prosecutor with a wife and daughter at some indeterminate point. He could have been, like, 25 when his family was killed. That gives him 25 years to work as a hitman before the movie.
Also, in the first money, he isn't the best assassin in the world, or anything - he's just competent, and has the support of the fricking CIA.
Sicario 3 with more Moner when?
idunno maybe army shit isnt as hard as army dudes make it out to seem because it's the only thing they have
he's just killing a bunch of methed up beaners couldnt require too much training to shoot better then they do
Why’d he frick that dude in the ass? Was it gay, or is it considered macho to rape another dude in the ass in that shit hole known as Mexico?
Feminization of another man is the manliest thing you can do.
I think the manliest thing you can do is be a good father! Sorry yours failed you anon
>Sorry yours failed you anon
Sure moron, your dad was such a good one that has his loser son shitposting on Cinemaphile at night. Peak parenting right here
latin culture
It was a painful physical act that would leave long term and possibly permanent psychological damage. A torture that guy wouldn’t recover from and might even drive him to suicide. It wasn’t “gay”, not in the sense Alejandro was gaining pleasure in it. Not sexual pleasure anyways.
>i've seen animes with more believable plots
No you haven't. Name five.
bleach
boko no pico
death note
the netflix live action death note
cory in the house
Shini Origari
Kami yo Ana
Superstar Trackstars
Only Death Survives
Chimi No Yoko
>animes
>s
The plural of anime is animes
>Be a lawyer
>already have a wife and kid
>probably stayed in good shape and lived a healthy active life that engaged him mentally
>Wife and daughter die a horrific death by torture
>CIA contacts him
>offers to train him in revenge
>it's not difficult to learn how to shoot a gun past the age of 30
>he's already proven to be extremely intelligent, focused and dedicated
>more importantly he has nothing holding him back
>they give him contacts, classified information, gear and how to evade capture
It all makes sense. He's never in a one man stand off against 20 guys, he isn't kung fu fighting ogres. He coordinated with delta team and knew when the boss was eating dinner and that his guards were busy. That's all it takes.
>That's all it takes.
The average American is under the impression only the elite of the elite can be in the military. That's why they get on their knees and thank some high school drop out for their service, and gush over some puddinghead because he was in "muh marines".
The American special forces are definitely elite, and has very high testing standards. But the CIA aren't training assets the same way. They're giving guys who already want to kill the basics on how to kill and law low, as well as the necessary resources to survive and get shit done.
It often backfires and that's when you get the Jalisco New Generation Cartel which were trained by the CIA to kill cartels only to become a cartel. They're more brutal than any cartel before them because they were trained on REAL terror tactics.
Even SF isn't some fricking amazing challenge a young man who trained as a lawyer could never overcome.
probably not, but it's designed to filter out the ones with the most insane genetics and to ignore when your body is shutting off.
Assets aren't being trained on camping and how to operate large military machinery, or how to operate a machine gun. it's probably a really expediated course on interrogation/door kicking/bomb making and information gathering.
Unfortunately, I was a dumbass who sort of thought that. When I got out of basic and really saw how the people in service were, I realize it’s a joke. Most people aren’t some “warrior” or hardass, that’s coming from someone who was in the marines. Never thank someone for their service. If they deserve it, then they don’t want to you. If they want you to, then they’re probably some pissant frick scumbag like half the people in the military.
>CIA contacts him
lmao
at best the DEA would ask him if he wants to inform.
they don't run recruitment programs based on aging dad self-insert fantasies.
You're a dunce. Stop pretending to know what you're talking about.
speak for yourself
wow this guy must be a fricking moron
Why do you vatos keep saying he's old? they probably trained him when he was 30 and in his prime. Benicio was only 47 when the movie released and it was confirmed he was operating for 10 years prior. So that means it lines up that he was early to mid 30s when they trained him.
47 is old. you are old.
Old is over 65-70. Is English your first language or are you 14?
nice cope geezer
He was a lawyer? I thought he was some cartell guy too who switched sides after his rivals killed his family
As a lawyer he tried to prosecute a member of one of the cartels so they killed his family. He joined forces with anyone that would help him exact revenge including the Americans who trained him and the rival Mexican cartel.
He had five brothers.
For all we know he STARTED his career in some elite police/military unit and went to law school when he retired. Goes after the cartels, his family gets killed, he is approached by CIA and receives even further training on top of already being pretty well trained from his days in their equivalent of SWAT or special forces. I would argue that's actually the most plausible sequence of events. It's still not impossible for him to have received training afterwards given he could have been around 30 when his family was killed but I like my timeline better. (Either way it doesn't fricking matter and it's much better that we don't know the entire life story of a character that is meant to be fricking mysterious).
i only saw the first 10 minutes of the movie one time, that woman with her daughter WALKING near the suicide bomb guy was way too dumb
That's the second one. The first is way less stupid. I still liked the sequel for what it was though.
Same. I secretly hope for a third.
An almost buddy cop style shoot 'em up with Medellin and Lil' Sicario would be kino.
Nah I want Mexican Leon the professional with Moner except they actually frick
And pic related
[Spoiler]forgot pic[/spoiler]
oh, i thought that was the first one. will try to watch the first one another day
The first is more of an espionage thriller compared to the second which is a pretty generic, albeit decently made action movie.
Fund it!
thats the dogshit sequel nobody likes to talk about because it has a different director.
>Lawyer for cartel
Neglected to mention that. Could've been cartel before lawyer and they thought he was smart enough, sent him to Mexican law school(like a two week course on how to bribe government officials and local cops) and got his law degree.
Or he never was a lawyer and it was just his cartel assassin code name and the day job he lied about to his family. Pendejo.
I don't remember his background being established in the first movie, and if it's established in the sequel then who cares because that shit sucked.
it's that boomer power fantasy that every middle-aged fatass with a boring desk job who can't even change a tire believes they have a totally badass killer inside them that would come out if something happened to muh family
He probably wasn’t even 40 when his family got killed and it wouldn’t be hard to train into an effective killer - particularly the kind he is.
Alejandro isn’t a navy seal, he wouldn’t need to know operating an SUAV or underwater demolition. He’s a man who pulls a trigger. He’s not hiking over a mountain to go whack some Muslim terrorist. He doesn’t need to be Arnold Schwarzenegger, he just needs to be effective in weapon skills and able to hold his cool.
I agree. He does get heli drops and satellite feeds though - being an operator doesn't really factor much into real life outside of that initial approach.
I didn't get my los zetas depiction of cartel itch scratched though. Those guys were like the worldeaters in real life back then.
They pussied out of showing american spec ops freelancing for the cartel
Sicario is the best Danny movie.
Kyle Rittenhouse deltaforce'd a whole mob.
Actually he did a lot better than Delta because he survived.
>gee guillermo your mom lets you have three pistols
kek the leg drop mounted to his stomach
This is easily one of the shittiest films I've ever seen, and that's even before how awful the tactics/gear shit is. If I were going to torture Michael Mann, I'd force him to watch this on endless repeat.
>plate carriers hanging below the heart
>obviously no plates
>fricking pistol mag pouches mounted at the clavicle
okay dude
>conducting movement at stand-to
okay dude
>the whole plot of the US is conducting some secret war with all the OpErAtOr SpEc OpS Operating operationally
>yet in real life were obviously fricking losing, so how's that again?
>tOtaLlY top secret shootouts at border checkpoints where zero cellphone video gets out because operating operationally
I hate those Walter Mitty types who end up as screenwriters.
>i've seen animes with more believable plots
Damn, I'd totally watch a Benicio Del Toro lead Golgo 13 adaption.
He may have had military training beforehand, and it's not like anything he did in the movie required superhuman abilities, any man in good shape and a few years of training could do what Alejandro did
It is a propaganda movie.
The US mutt state never does this shit IRL.
They make this movie as some sort of cope like what if we all cool kilo mikes and the mexicans are incompetent.
It never happens but it gives such an impression to casual movie goers.
>SHOOTING GUN IS LE HARD
Keanu can do it
Colombia has mandatory conscription. Every Colombian man can frick you in the ass, b***h
>Every Colombian man
What about the women?
With or without traditionally male genitalia?
Just watched it.
it was good but pretty underwhelming.
It felt like a No country for old men with no spice.
It looked good though but that's basically the only thing Villeneuve is definitely good at.
Honestly learning to shoot isn't very hard even with mediocre instructors. This guy was a CIA asset working with CAG as well so he probably had a lot of trigger time. When i had pistol instruction with some green beret in the army he said they needed to fire 20 000 rounds of 9mm per year to maintain their qualification. It's all about mastering the fundamentals and do drills all the time.
Ikr, they shoulde've at least make him some spec ops vet or something
But from that director pushed for female character to make contrast it was also to highlight how he changed into beast, what a man can become. Retartded and unbelievable, stupid. But this is kino still, I think. One of the best thrillers, just ending scenes are below mid which is common for thrillers anyway
i dont think they portrayed him as the world's best assassin, he's just got basic spec ops training from CIA. its not uncommon lots of Cubans got that training decades ago.
Made by and for shitbreeds.
He's just Colombian. Badass by nature. Born with a pistol in his hand.