>rush a big stinky turd hoping to ride the coattails of a carefully filmed in the span of 3 years masterpiece >people don’t like it >some streetshitter 10 years later: f filberd xdd
>Vince posting
Wasn't in the show >Getting back Chad's shoes
Most basic-b***h revenge fantasy for the bullied to relate to >Rachel McAdams
Not that hot >Gay cop being operator
Boring character in general
>Colin drug bender scene >Colin bully child scene >McAdams anal queen scene
Also I know this fourth answer isn't what you're looking for, but the meme quality was higher in S2 even if the overall thread quality was higher in S1.
S2 did killed the show though is a black mark on it still
I genuinely think S3 would have been better received here if it was easier to funpost about.
DEM KEEDS is the only thing that really stuck, people gave up trying to force the kawaii fox pretty quickly.
I was honestly pretty underwhelmed by season 1. it was good, but I prefer something more grounded like Mare of Easttown instead of an attempt to do a southern version of Se7en.
Fair take, I don’t have an issue with people who have s1 or s2 as their favourite. I really like the ending of S2. Anyone who shills S3 is subhuman though.
Awful incomprenhensible mess. S2 is literally all the proof you need to know that Cary Fukunaga was the main reason why TD S1 was so great and PizzaMan is a hack. This even proves that some are paying PizzaMan plagarized TS S1 even more proof.,
>Cary Fukunaga was the main reason why TD S1 was so great
This, so much of what made S1 great was the visual decision-making, which was noticeably lackluster in Fukunaga's absence.
>Cary Fukunaga
Thank god that homosexual left. Season 2 was the correct way to go about an anthology. You could tell Pizza did everything to make season 1 what it was because the setting is the main character, the driver of all character motivation, in all of his seasons.
>s2 is le REAL >politicians who „secretly“ get together to frick average prosts >le epic gangster who with a couple other guys takes out 3/4 of the diaspora mafias in his city >the „gunfight“
>politicians who „secretly“ get together to frick average prosts
It wasn’t a perfect season, but how do you have any problem with the plot line? It’s as true detective as it gets you moron
That's how things work in the real world. It's illogical, lame and anticlimactic. It may sound Reddit but it's more horryifying than this comically evil pedophile cult. Evil, dumb people who destroy other lives and don't even know it. It's how life is.
>is the season good or not?
Honestly not too bad, but the plot opens so many questions and has you guessing at what the frick happened for it to reveal 99% of it is red herrings. I know its a common theme in TD, but S3 is the worst at it.
I agree to a certain degree, but when viewing the intention of the series as an anthology about morality and good vs evil, 1-3 are fine in their own way. Everyone will have their particular favorites because each setting is more tangible to different audiences and generations. I personally like season 2 the most, but I even have a soft spot for aspects of the third season, especially the depiction of shell shock and sensory overload as a method of displacing linear time. This ties into some of the pathos of season 1.
>too much in a "style over substance" way
I agree. It became tropes because they messed up the pacing and exposition that made character revelation worthwhile in season 1 and 2. The second Roland got his dog arc I admitted they became lazy.
I agree to a certain degree, but when viewing the intention of the series as an anthology about morality and good vs evil, 1-3 are fine in their own way. Everyone will have their particular favorites because each setting is more tangible to different audiences and generations. I personally like season 2 the most, but I even have a soft spot for aspects of the third season, especially the depiction of shell shock and sensory overload as a method of displacing linear time. This ties into some of the pathos of season 1.
you are wrong.
S1 = kino of the decade
S2 = kino of the century
S3 = alright I guess
S4 = utter shit, except I loled that the cleaning lady solved the case in 5 minutes when an entire police department couldnt
>S1: Based, both the main characters represent left vs right morally. They wanted you to cheer for Rust but they made both imperfect or flawed as characters and people, the proper way to write your beliefs into the story without being pushy about it. Everything about the story is amazing with the occult stuff and politicians being involved. A murder mystery within a unspeakable massive conspiracy. Matthew McConaughey put in a unbelievable performance, probably the best of his career
>S2: Based but a different type of show all together. More like a better written, more gritty version of the Shield than what S1 was trying to accomplish
>S3: A attempt to return to SOVL, it was based all the way up to the big reveal. The boy getting killed on accident and they were kidnapping them to adopt them was kinda boring and a let down as a plot.
>S4: Pure diarrhea. Will never watch it. The red flags were there from day 1 and spoilers here proved me right
It was tryhard dogshit with cringey lines all throughout. You not liking the seasons afterward doesn't suddenly make it good. Pizza rushed it, compared to throwing years' worth of ideas into S1.
It may have been rushed, but the question of morality was well analyzed in the LA outskirt setting. From blackmail, corporate cartelization, cults the season fleshed out an intricate underbelly that kept me invested regardless of the tryhardness at times.
Season 3 name dropping the Franklin Coverup then copping out pissed me off to no end, but what I’m hearing about S4 makes me think I should rewatch for Dorff
S3 is a perfectly fine detective show, its not amazing but its an enjoyable watch.
S4 was not even meant to be a true detective season and it really fricking shows. It feels more like a woke twin peaks ripoff with a true detective paint over it.
They gave everyone with a soul blue balls with this one, but I still feel season 1 and 2 did enough to give credence to the claims laid out by the women journalist regardless of the "happy" ending the show provides. This is when I began to question the extent of Pizza's involvement after season 2 imo.
>I still feel season 1 and 2 did enough to give credence to the claims laid out by the women journalist regardless of the "happy" ending the show provides. Without a doubt, I suppose that’s why I felt blindsided; felt very out of left field. I know in my heart Pizza KNOWS, You're probably right that somewhere in between, he gained less involvement.
When I finish S4 tomorrow I have a feeling I’ll agree with you. Barreling through episode 3 now and it seems really fricking gay and aimless. What could have been maybe kind of neat is being swept under the rug.
That bit fricked me up. I watched it at a time when I was pondering if my situation was my fault but deep down I knew that I am a certain way and I'll never be able to change myself. It's blackpilling and existentially depressing but at some point, you have to realize you are who you are and don't cause yourself any more mental harm.
I'm giving it a second shot and there's no way to defend how overstuffed and muddled that first episode is trying to cram in 4 different POVs before building up to le mystery.
All of the people chosen for the task force have muddled and somewhat broken lives and are outsiders from their colleagues. That’s why they were chosen.
Okay, now make it engaging. First episode is literally getting ping-ponged around between the four main leads and spending time seeing boring railway deal bullshit, with no real urgency to the mystery. Compare that to S1E1.
It's already engaging. Maybe you should stop expecting it to follow the same as season 1.
S1 is a greasy hotpocket. S2 is a blade being dragged across your neckbearded throat.
Colin and Vince had astounding chemistry, easily on par with Matthew and Woody and they're not even best friends. I wish it was just them, S2 would have been way better received. All memes about it are just Frank and Ray at the bar talking.
>Mother is such a prostitute that you hate pussy >Father is such a limp-wristed homosexual, gets you raped, that you hate men >pointless characters
You are why media must cater to the lowest common denominator to be successful.
I fricking loved every second of Vince/Colin. I am so assblasted Pizzaman didn't have them both as cops and having car ride conversations. IMAGINE THE KINO LINES.
>Gay cop was there for no reason
He was a perspective into the gay mafia and the typical martyrdom done to retroactively clean up what would otherwise be the linchpin to take down a large conspiracy. He is supposed to be a nobody. Literally a plot device. >Rachel McAddams character was wasted
How? >It's a land deal scam/fraud.
Involving a cryptoisraelite who also runs a blackmail/trafficking operation and a city who uses the government agencies as heavies for their incestuous (remember who Caspere was fricking) gang.
She definitely tried to do something sexually dominate. Maybe not straight up pegging but it could have been just tying him up roughly or maybe a finger up the ass.
>Vince plot is essentially going nowhere
Vince hasn't gone anywhere since his father locked him in the basement. You missed the arc of the best character the the whole series.
I watched it recently and I liked it. As someone else said, the chemistry between Colin and Vince was good. The first couple of episodes were a bit shit though. The ending with Ray getting spotted at his son's school was a bit iffy, like it was very obvious they were gonna keep a watch there. But I still don't blame him for wanting to see his son one last time before he leaves forever.
Frank tells him your decisions are made before you are ever aware:
IMO True Detective deals with the concept of time not being linear and fate is more or less intuition or a sixth sense of what has already been decided or played out. This idea is most notable through Ray because even when you can see he is finally most at peace after his call with Ani he realizes he has met someone he loves and will be free, it is not in his ethos to take the consolation and leave on someone else's terms. Regardless of the newfound feeling of fulfillment and progression, he chooses a fate he feels he has control over. A death on his terms.
I watched the last 3 seasons all in the last month after not watching out spite since I figured none of them would get even close to season 1 in terms of quality. Season 2 was only good. Very entertaining though. Season 3 had some of the best acting performances I've ever seen. Both are missing the overall sense of mystery the first season had which I consider important for a detective show. Overall, I give s2 a 7/10 and s3 an 8/10. Season 4 is obviously not even worth mentioning.
Most of the flaws I saw in season 2 fade away on a rewatch. Plot isn't hard to follow on a marathon. Even Taylor Kitsch is pretty good in it. Appreciate Bezzerides a lot more too after seeing how bad characters like that can get in night country.
TD S2 is still struck by the reaction it got back in 2015. Nearly a decade later and the same people saying the same things. On rewatch, it becomes a 5/10 into a near 10/10. It's astounding how much stuff completely filtered people and was ignored.
junkie bar singer girl came to a small venue I bartended at twice shortly after the season came out and she is painfully gorgeous and a lovely singer IRL, like having some siren trying to take my attention away from making wienertails the whole time, couldn't look away
anyway here's some feet for you, thanks for listening to my blog
Ray's dream is one of my favorite scenes ever. Remember it getting shit on at the time for being a Lynch rip off. Sure it's derivative of Lynch but it's still an incredible scene imo. It's crazy to me how hostile people were towards s2 in general. Critics couldn't wait to tear it down for any reason they could and I don't think it deserved it at all.
You know it's funny, because when Ray reached the train station in episode 8 I thought to myself "hmmm, this feels like 12 Monkeys."
If you know you know.
How come Vince Vaughn acted like he was in a 1950's noir film but nobody else did? I mean the wife kinda did but that was probably because she had to work off the same energy he was giving off.
Terrible season. Shit characters portrayed by shit actors with maybe collin barely excempted. 2 good scenes won't save this shit. The ending sucks. It's a mess. Vince should have been fired after shooting a couple scenes and realizing he can't act a serious role if his life depended on it.
It's bullshit.
Funny how you never have anything to say about s2. You just lash out at anybody with a brain that didn't like what practically killed the series for good. S2 fricking sucks no matter how many tantrums you throw vibe loser
Just disagree with everything you said too much to even engage. All the protangists are good with Ray being the best character across all the seasons. Actors are good to great across the board. It consistently delivers great scenes with higher peaks than season 1 (and obviously 3).
If you can look at the soulful kino of season 2 and dismiss it as shit then you have an emptiness inside that makes you a subhuman I would never help you if you were in danger. Just walking Godless NPC flesh. And on the flipside anyone who appreciates season 2 is definitely a good person on some level and I would stand alongside them whatever it was that was facing us. A pair of God warriors.
Just because the threat looms after our perspective (the characters) fall does not mean the season is bad or messy. Have you ever watched an anthology before?
Pizzaloco is such a fricken hack. Dude thinks way too highly of himself as a writer. If he ever returns for a future season it's going to be dogshite as well.
The mexican shootout scene was pretty bad. Felt comical in the execution. Honestly, mexicans were the worst part the show. I definitely don't mind Frank died, but it puts a bad taste in my mouth he was killed by those uppity c**ts.
Me too but its not a high bar. Will rustle up the Cinemaphileedditor hive but season 1's ending is absolutely shit.
Season 3 has a kino final shot but the resolution of the mystery ruins the whole season.
I had the same feelings for S3 and S1 left me with an okay catharsis with good vs evil but how they ended up their, love through the void, was not for me.
He just seems butthurt and it's hard to fully blame him. If people genuinely like the garbage that was S4 then fine, but to call people sexist for criticizing it reeks of closemindedness and narcissism. A lot of the comments he's gotten are unhinged and moronic.
He needed to do a better job explaining the Catalast rail line grift. They use land parcels and company shares interchangeably, they keep alluding to other shit like city contracts for the construction but then not explaining them at all. I watched it twice and I'm still not sure whether Caspere was selling Frank some of his shares, or land parcels, or whether he was just brokering the sale from Catalast on Frank's behalf. The CEO at the end says Caspere was always planning to rip Frank off but I don't understand what form that would have taken. It just needed more elaboration.
Pretty sure Caspere was just the broker of the sale and his holding his money/pissing it away is what fricked Frank in his ass and dropped him back to square one—but I’m more than happy to have a reason to rewatch the “worst self/best self” season again.
Dropped it after episode one because it was just straight up boring. It doesn't help that there is no concrete answer why people even love it so much. "Atmosphere", "acting", "cinematography". I don't care about this superficial crap. just tell me you liked it because you though it was deeper than it actually was with philosphies that merely acted as window dressing. It was all stolen too
>ust tell me you liked it because you though it was deeper than it actually was
But that's not why I liked it. I liked the atmosphere, I liked the acting, I liked the cinematography.
First 3 episodes of S1 is probably the most bored I ever was watching anything. After that it got to tolerable levels or I just got stockholm syndrome'd. Still, nothing fricking happened, it was just shitty family drama, pseud ramblings and...that's it. Why did this shit need 10 fricking hours?
It's so tiresome, how blatant it is >makes a pseud statement about S2 >holy basederino
Yep, totally organic conversation there.
I was on infinitychn back when this season aired and I remember one critizism in particular: when the bad guys where in the sex lodge they were saying something like >we're evil guys and we have all our evil deeds in this contract here >we will gloat about it in front of this giant ass window here
Of course the scooby gang was there to overhear them, steal the contracts, etc. Mind you, the trio did not know what would they find sneaking into the compound but the script just gave it to them. Remember season 1? Where you have dozens of scenes of Rust pouring over files, doing legit research and legwork? Do you remember how much prep work they did before going undercover and even then shit blew up unexpectedly?
Compare the same situations in S1 vs S2 and it is clear that S2 had no focus, was rushed and zoomers who were 12 a decade ago are now claiming stolen valor. Gee, it's the prequels all over again.
Not even going to adress the lazy writing in the unathomably base-tehe-derino kinography of your tv series? Jesus you zoom zooms are shit at the internet.
When I'm driving through the night feeling a whisky buzz and smoking a cigarette it's not Rust and Marty I can feel the presence of in my car. Its Ray and Frank. Don't expect normies to understand this but it fricking means something
On a fundamental level it's identical since you're both just clapping because man on tv said buzzword you like >they said X!1! >zomg I feel so heckin validated rn
is there a word for someone who's so predicably contrarian that you can guess their opinion on any given subject before theyve even opened their mouth?
There are anons ITT physically ripping their hair out and foaming at the mouth at the thought of someone liking a show they don’t
This is why I love S2 threads kek
I always participate in Caspere posting but the last time Cinemaphile meme’d me into watching something it was The Terror (snore) and S2+ of TD is already notoriously bad. Even the fans of S2 ITT are like “it was good for what it was” which bodes even less well but I’m tempted none the less. Should I or am I gonna be pissed off at how shitty and pozzed it is the whole time?
It came out 8 years ago anon. You’ve read the thread, and seen the conflicting opinions. What frickin use is it asking if you’d like it? Just watch it and decide if you liked it. It’s like 8 episodes.
Ok fine but answer me one thing: is it pozzed or tolerable? Is there anything to do with hatred of white people or trannies or anything like that? I can tolerate a gay storyline if they’re just gays for the sake of being gays but I don’t wanna hear about fake gay problems like bigots and shit.
Season 2 is pure kino but doesn't lend itself well to passive watching. It's very rewarding if you fully immerse yourself.
I do a rewatch every few years where I pretend I'm Ray for the time it takes to complete the season. I'm drinking spirits, chain smoking and doing the occaisional line of coke. Taking down notes about the case like names and connections between characters in a leather bound book I have. It can get pretty intense. Between episodes I was screaming out in frustration punching my couch until exhaustion while drunk as frick and letting my own dissatisfactions about life combine with Ray's feelings
>ASS-PEN >I'll come back and buttfrick your dad with your mom's headless corpse >He took them out the locker and what? Shit on them? (Lebrons)
The Velcoro dialogue with the bully really sets the tone. The goes right to the line of being over the top and stupid but somehow ends up being apex kino. It could be the dumbest shit ever written if the performance didn't sell it so well. It takes you right to the elevated art realm. None of your preconceived notions of quality apply anymore. The whole game is changed.
By appealing to contrarian chuds who don't care about quality as long as their favorite chud actors are in it.
>CHUD CHUD CHUD
Shut up, homosexual.
>reddit space
No. Get better taste. You bought into a generic noir TV show.
>REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT
troony playbook. First chud, then Reddit.
>no u
Make a proper arguement. Not chud, reddit and generic noir. What makes it so bad? What makes it so generic?
>chud actors
Who
>rush a big stinky turd hoping to ride the coattails of a carefully filmed in the span of 3 years masterpiece
>people don’t like it
>some streetshitter 10 years later: f filberd xdd
Indeed. S2 is Bollywood rip off quality
exactly
It's great TV with a lot of great actors and scenes but not as good as S1. That's all I have to say.
Name 3 things that are „great“ about it
Colin Farrell
Vince Vaughn
Rick Springfield
Vince posting
Getting back Chad's shoes
Rachel McAdams
Gay cop being operator
>Vince posting
Wasn't in the show
>Getting back Chad's shoes
Most basic-b***h revenge fantasy for the bullied to relate to
>Rachel McAdams
Not that hot
>Gay cop being operator
Boring character in general
>Colin drug bender scene
>Colin bully child scene
>McAdams anal queen scene
Also I know this fourth answer isn't what you're looking for, but the meme quality was higher in S2 even if the overall thread quality was higher in S1.
S2 did killed the show though is a black mark on it still
"I will buttuck your father with your mother's headless corpse on this goddamn lawn" is still one of my favorite quotes.
I genuinely think S3 would have been better received here if it was easier to funpost about.
DEM KEEDS is the only thing that really stuck, people gave up trying to force the kawaii fox pretty quickly.
Colin Farrel hard carried the season, but there really was no way to surpass let alone equal the first season
basically this
I was honestly pretty underwhelmed by season 1. it was good, but I prefer something more grounded like Mare of Easttown instead of an attempt to do a southern version of Se7en.
>surpass let alone equal
you should have said that the other way round
Fair take.
i think they're equally good, i didn't bother with the last two seasons cuz its clear what happened
if you need to ask you've been filtered and FELTED
Yeah, S1 and 2 are equal in being memorable. S3 is a nothingburger. S4 is a travesty.
Fair take, I don’t have an issue with people who have s1 or s2 as their favourite. I really like the ending of S2. Anyone who shills S3 is subhuman though.
this , it was rushed by execs, falling out with Fukunaga was stupid as frick, but it still had kino moments like
the rest of television hardly ever come on par with it nowadays
>Chernobyl
>The Terror
what else?
Awful incomprenhensible mess. S2 is literally all the proof you need to know that Cary Fukunaga was the main reason why TD S1 was so great and PizzaMan is a hack. This even proves that some are paying PizzaMan plagarized TS S1 even more proof.,
>Cary Fukunaga was the main reason why TD S1 was so great
This, so much of what made S1 great was the visual decision-making, which was noticeably lackluster in Fukunaga's absence.
>plagarized TS
who or what is TS?
>incomprenhensible
Imagine getting filtered by a simple corruption/org crime story. Why don't you stick to old cartoons?
>Cary Fukunaga
Thank god that homosexual left. Season 2 was the correct way to go about an anthology. You could tell Pizza did everything to make season 1 what it was because the setting is the main character, the driver of all character motivation, in all of his seasons.
based, whoever is spreading this Frickyounaga narrative needs to commit suicide.
something special about this scene. it has such intense emotional ethos.
S1=reddit
S2=top 5 kino of all time
S3=lawd dem keedz
S4=a24
Season 1 is the only season worth watching. It doesn’t matter how many times you shill.
I agree with this. S2 is more real and hard-edged than S1 which is rather childish in how it portrays it's story and characters.
>s2 is le REAL
>politicians who „secretly“ get together to frick average prosts
>le epic gangster who with a couple other guys takes out 3/4 of the diaspora mafias in his city
>the „gunfight“
lmfao
>politicians who „secretly“ get together to frick average prosts
It wasn’t a perfect season, but how do you have any problem with the plot line? It’s as true detective as it gets you moron
That's how things work in the real world. It's illogical, lame and anticlimactic. It may sound Reddit but it's more horryifying than this comically evil pedophile cult. Evil, dumb people who destroy other lives and don't even know it. It's how life is.
>He doesn't think sex parties full of prostitutes are real.
Matt Gaetz just got accused of fricking a prostitute at one last week.
Spot on and screenshotted for posterity
i absolutely agree with s1 and s2, what does s3 mean? i know it's some meme line from it, but is the season good or not?
>is the season good or not?
Honestly not too bad, but the plot opens so many questions and has you guessing at what the frick happened for it to reveal 99% of it is red herrings. I know its a common theme in TD, but S3 is the worst at it.
I agree to a certain degree, but when viewing the intention of the series as an anthology about morality and good vs evil, 1-3 are fine in their own way. Everyone will have their particular favorites because each setting is more tangible to different audiences and generations. I personally like season 2 the most, but I even have a soft spot for aspects of the third season, especially the depiction of shell shock and sensory overload as a method of displacing linear time. This ties into some of the pathos of season 1.
season 3 was definitely the most stylistic but too much in a "style over substance" way
>too much in a "style over substance" way
I agree. It became tropes because they messed up the pacing and exposition that made character revelation worthwhile in season 1 and 2. The second Roland got his dog arc I admitted they became lazy.
all the characters in season 1 are evil
I think you missed catharsis of Rust... morality is not a binary but a decision in a moment. It is fleeting. It must be cultivated and maintained.
Maggy isn't.
>purposefully goes to frick her husband's partner
I liked 3 and I'm a massive racist
Same, aspects were okay of S3, but I will not be watching season 4.
Me 2
These anons bleed black wiener.
Calling season 4 A24 is way too charitable. Most A24 flicks I've seen are far beyond Night Country.
it's an edgy moron post relying on buzzwords as arguments, of course its fricking stupid
I unironically agree with everything else he said
depressing
you are wrong.
S1 = kino of the decade
S2 = kino of the century
S3 = alright I guess
S4 = utter shit, except I loled that the cleaning lady solved the case in 5 minutes when an entire police department couldnt
I will never watch S4. True Detective ended after a lackluster S3 for my recollection, anon.
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>S1: Based, both the main characters represent left vs right morally. They wanted you to cheer for Rust but they made both imperfect or flawed as characters and people, the proper way to write your beliefs into the story without being pushy about it. Everything about the story is amazing with the occult stuff and politicians being involved. A murder mystery within a unspeakable massive conspiracy. Matthew McConaughey put in a unbelievable performance, probably the best of his career
>S2: Based but a different type of show all together. More like a better written, more gritty version of the Shield than what S1 was trying to accomplish
>S3: A attempt to return to SOVL, it was based all the way up to the big reveal. The boy getting killed on accident and they were kidnapping them to adopt them was kinda boring and a let down as a plot.
>S4: Pure diarrhea. Will never watch it. The red flags were there from day 1 and spoilers here proved me right
Kino
This is true. S1 of True detective is very overrated. The second half of S1 isn't as good as the first.
>lawd dem keedz
kek.
Season 3 is incredible though.
bump
You're trying to upvote him you homosexual?
It was tryhard dogshit with cringey lines all throughout. You not liking the seasons afterward doesn't suddenly make it good. Pizza rushed it, compared to throwing years' worth of ideas into S1.
It may have been rushed, but the question of morality was well analyzed in the LA outskirt setting. From blackmail, corporate cartelization, cults the season fleshed out an intricate underbelly that kept me invested regardless of the tryhardness at times.
Season 3 name dropping the Franklin Coverup then copping out pissed me off to no end, but what I’m hearing about S4 makes me think I should rewatch for Dorff
EXPECTATIONS SUBVERTED
It really just made me mad tbh it’s so important a topic and I felt like pizza chickened out.
Same.
S3 is a perfectly fine detective show, its not amazing but its an enjoyable watch.
S4 was not even meant to be a true detective season and it really fricking shows. It feels more like a woke twin peaks ripoff with a true detective paint over it.
Season 3 is not perfectly fine
They gave everyone with a soul blue balls with this one, but I still feel season 1 and 2 did enough to give credence to the claims laid out by the women journalist regardless of the "happy" ending the show provides. This is when I began to question the extent of Pizza's involvement after season 2 imo.
>I still feel season 1 and 2 did enough to give credence to the claims laid out by the women journalist regardless of the "happy" ending the show provides. Without a doubt, I suppose that’s why I felt blindsided; felt very out of left field. I know in my heart Pizza KNOWS, You're probably right that somewhere in between, he gained less involvement.
Frick
Just look at season 4, all good things come to and end, and it looks like Pizza got the hook after 2 good seasons of exposing what is unjust.
I thought S3 was decent until it started doing shit like this. Setting up tie ins but not having payoff is such shit storytelling.
I probably despise S3 more than S4. It pretended to be genuine and then gave you the finger. S4 let you know it would be shit from the first trailer.
>junk food tastes better than shit because of false advertising
When I finish S4 tomorrow I have a feeling I’ll agree with you. Barreling through episode 3 now and it seems really fricking gay and aimless. What could have been maybe kind of neat is being swept under the rug.
It's a complex downbeat noir series. Normies were never going to get it.
That bit fricked me up. I watched it at a time when I was pondering if my situation was my fault but deep down I knew that I am a certain way and I'll never be able to change myself. It's blackpilling and existentially depressing but at some point, you have to realize you are who you are and don't cause yourself any more mental harm.
Janus archetype
It was kino, and I'm tired of pretending that it wasn't.
I'm giving it a second shot and there's no way to defend how overstuffed and muddled that first episode is trying to cram in 4 different POVs before building up to le mystery.
All of the people chosen for the task force have muddled and somewhat broken lives and are outsiders from their colleagues. That’s why they were chosen.
Okay, now make it engaging. First episode is literally getting ping-ponged around between the four main leads and spending time seeing boring railway deal bullshit, with no real urgency to the mystery. Compare that to S1E1.
It's already engaging. Maybe you should stop expecting it to follow the same as season 1.
S1 is a greasy hotpocket. S2 is a blade being dragged across your neckbearded throat.
The fricking edge, Jesus Christ, haha.
Colin Ferrell's character was literally, scientifically, and methodically written to not be understood by women
Colin and Vince had astounding chemistry, easily on par with Matthew and Woody and they're not even best friends. I wish it was just them, S2 would have been way better received. All memes about it are just Frank and Ray at the bar talking.
>The handshake when the both "are getting out".
Why didn't they hug each other goodbye, bros...
they should've removed the gay and the girl, they serve literally zero purpose
>Mother is such a prostitute that you hate pussy
>Father is such a limp-wristed homosexual, gets you raped, that you hate men
>pointless characters
You are why media must cater to the lowest common denominator to be successful.
and how is that relevant to the plot? you only explained why they are like that, not why they are there, midwit
It's what makes him susceptible to being in the gay mafia aka special forces and it makes the women able to relate to the mindset of Ray.
Martybros…
The guy who made that video was probably some young chap who thought haha that's miserable could never be me.
well it is miserable compared to what he had
Vinceposting was funnier than REGGIE LEDOO and any other S1 memes, be honest. It was the peak of Cinemaphile.
Nah the peak was kinobyl posting.
>It's a Colin Farrels character drinks and does copius amounts of cocaine episode
h-he's just like me!
i like building models so he was kinda literally me
The Good:
Colin Farrel is always great
Vince Vaught was entertaining
LA is a kino setting
Great action
Bad:
Gay cop was there for no reason
Rachel McAddams character was wasted
It's a land deal scam/fraud.
Dissapointing compared to S1, but it's still pretty good on its own.
I fricking loved every second of Vince/Colin. I am so assblasted Pizzaman didn't have them both as cops and having car ride conversations. IMAGINE THE KINO LINES.
I think the dirty cop/mob boss scenario offers the possibility of lines even more kino than buddy cop relationship tbh
either way, Vince and Colin should be in a movie or show together again. They gelled incredibly well.
>Gay cop was there for no reason
He was a perspective into the gay mafia and the typical martyrdom done to retroactively clean up what would otherwise be the linchpin to take down a large conspiracy. He is supposed to be a nobody. Literally a plot device.
>Rachel McAddams character was wasted
How?
>It's a land deal scam/fraud.
Involving a cryptoisraelite who also runs a blackmail/trafficking operation and a city who uses the government agencies as heavies for their incestuous (remember who Caspere was fricking) gang.
Ani!
She was so hot in this but not hot in anything else. Why?
She liked to peg inferior men in this.
Is that what that first scene is? Thought she tried to slip it in her own butt and he was surprised
She definitely tried to do something sexually dominate. Maybe not straight up pegging but it could have been just tying him up roughly or maybe a finger up the ass.
Nice
She can peg me anytime
Scene context?
She’s talking to me to prep for her daily BWC
She's always been hot, ur just a dummy with poor eyesight
she looks grimy in this, like she'd let you frick her in the bathroom of a Denny's
>the implication that she does anal in the first episode
I want her so bad.
Currently rewatching it, Ani and Ray are great, Vince plot is essentially going nowhere, gay cop is irrelevant.
>Vince plot is essentially going nowhere
Vince hasn't gone anywhere since his father locked him in the basement. You missed the arc of the best character the the whole series.
Based kino observer.
>'till they were liquid
>talks about how "liquid" so-and-so can go all the time
>never asks Ray about it, even though Ray is like 99% liquid scotch
I don't get it.
>oh babe, you stopped moving way back there
Publish some phrases said by the actors of this season. Shameful
I watched it recently and I liked it. As someone else said, the chemistry between Colin and Vince was good. The first couple of episodes were a bit shit though. The ending with Ray getting spotted at his son's school was a bit iffy, like it was very obvious they were gonna keep a watch there. But I still don't blame him for wanting to see his son one last time before he leaves forever.
>his son
Anon…
>>his son
Anon, I..
Yes.
Frank tells him your decisions are made before you are ever aware:
IMO True Detective deals with the concept of time not being linear and fate is more or less intuition or a sixth sense of what has already been decided or played out. This idea is most notable through Ray because even when you can see he is finally most at peace after his call with Ani he realizes he has met someone he loves and will be free, it is not in his ethos to take the consolation and leave on someone else's terms. Regardless of the newfound feeling of fulfillment and progression, he chooses a fate he feels he has control over. A death on his terms.
I watched the last 3 seasons all in the last month after not watching out spite since I figured none of them would get even close to season 1 in terms of quality. Season 2 was only good. Very entertaining though. Season 3 had some of the best acting performances I've ever seen. Both are missing the overall sense of mystery the first season had which I consider important for a detective show. Overall, I give s2 a 7/10 and s3 an 8/10. Season 4 is obviously not even worth mentioning.
Most of the flaws I saw in season 2 fade away on a rewatch. Plot isn't hard to follow on a marathon. Even Taylor Kitsch is pretty good in it. Appreciate Bezzerides a lot more too after seeing how bad characters like that can get in night country.
TD S2 is still struck by the reaction it got back in 2015. Nearly a decade later and the same people saying the same things. On rewatch, it becomes a 5/10 into a near 10/10. It's astounding how much stuff completely filtered people and was ignored.
I loved all 4 characters. paul and Ani were really good at adding nuance and complexity to the plot
junkie bar singer girl came to a small venue I bartended at twice shortly after the season came out and she is painfully gorgeous and a lovely singer IRL, like having some siren trying to take my attention away from making wienertails the whole time, couldn't look away
anyway here's some feet for you, thanks for listening to my blog
Great voice that made the atmosphere pure kino. I would definitely wife her.
Was it autism?
>watered down james elroy
watered down james ellroy is still pure kinematography anon
Ray's dream is one of my favorite scenes ever. Remember it getting shit on at the time for being a Lynch rip off. Sure it's derivative of Lynch but it's still an incredible scene imo. It's crazy to me how hostile people were towards s2 in general. Critics couldn't wait to tear it down for any reason they could and I don't think it deserved it at all.
People are NPC's, anon. Even worse, actually. They wanted more Matthew redditspeak and le spooky pedophiles (don't be antisemitic!)
Same, that scene is the one thing I remember the most out of all of true detective, including S1.
There you go, bros.
LYNCHED
ty anon
fricking kino
You know it's funny, because when Ray reached the train station in episode 8 I thought to myself "hmmm, this feels like 12 Monkeys."
If you know you know.
The Holy Ghost of Conway Twitty still enters my head sometimes because of this scene.
Ray Velcro is literally me
By making it mid
>100 IQ: The Season
Shit
Pizza is a one hit trick
>You might be one of the last friends I got.
>Wouldn't that be fricked up?
Kino.
How come Vince Vaughn acted like he was in a 1950's noir film but nobody else did? I mean the wife kinda did but that was probably because she had to work off the same energy he was giving off.
Because he’s the old school gangster who’s getting lapped by the modern world. He’s getting too old for this shit.
Vince Vaughn somehow is both one of the best actors of our time and one of the worst depending on the scene
Ray is the best True Detective character.
Terrible season. Shit characters portrayed by shit actors with maybe collin barely excempted. 2 good scenes won't save this shit. The ending sucks. It's a mess. Vince should have been fired after shooting a couple scenes and realizing he can't act a serious role if his life depended on it.
It's bullshit.
Here we have the perpetually filtered Rustbabby. Go play your video games.
Funny how you never have anything to say about s2. You just lash out at anybody with a brain that didn't like what practically killed the series for good. S2 fricking sucks no matter how many tantrums you throw vibe loser
Just disagree with everything you said too much to even engage. All the protangists are good with Ray being the best character across all the seasons. Actors are good to great across the board. It consistently delivers great scenes with higher peaks than season 1 (and obviously 3).
If you can look at the soulful kino of season 2 and dismiss it as shit then you have an emptiness inside that makes you a subhuman I would never help you if you were in danger. Just walking Godless NPC flesh. And on the flipside anyone who appreciates season 2 is definitely a good person on some level and I would stand alongside them whatever it was that was facing us. A pair of God warriors.
Holy reddit
>It's a mess
The world is a mess.
>The ending sucks.
Life doesn't always end with the good guys winning. Sometimes the exploits of the crypto israelite remain, even posthumously.
>IT'S BAD AND MESSY ON PURPOSE, OKAY
Just because the threat looms after our perspective (the characters) fall does not mean the season is bad or messy. Have you ever watched an anthology before?
There are tons of examples of looming threats done properly
>The Wire
More like The Reddit
Do you choose to be moronic or are your parents siblings?
>mentions reddit out of nowhere
Yeah, S2 of True Detective.
God that was revolting. The frickers.
Now ponder how many Uncle Ted's have been made into tragic figures...
This feeling is why S2 ending was best.
Pizzaloco is such a fricken hack. Dude thinks way too highly of himself as a writer. If he ever returns for a future season it's going to be dogshite as well.
I loved this season at the time, although it ended a little flat. Does it hold up on rewatch?
The mexican shootout scene was pretty bad. Felt comical in the execution. Honestly, mexicans were the worst part the show. I definitely don't mind Frank died, but it puts a bad taste in my mouth he was killed by those uppity c**ts.
I liked the ending of S2 perhaps the best out of all the endings
Me too but its not a high bar. Will rustle up the Cinemaphileedditor hive but season 1's ending is absolutely shit.
Season 3 has a kino final shot but the resolution of the mystery ruins the whole season.
100% this, though I do think some of the shots in S1 finale were a bit kino with the flare gun shots
Agreed.
I had the same feelings for S3 and S1 left me with an okay catharsis with good vs evil but how they ended up their, love through the void, was not for me.
Did everyone see Pizza’s IG post giving everyone a place to shitpost about season 4? He seems like such a weird fricking dude, and not in a good way.
Good on him for providing a space to shitpost, since anybody who doesn't like the show gets blocked or deleted.
What he can't have an opinion?
>how do you do fellow Cinemaphileers?
This is a Pizza board, gay.
Shut up homosexual. Everyone here called him a hack and took giant shits on him as soon as season 2 finished. Quit LARPing
He just seems butthurt and it's hard to fully blame him. If people genuinely like the garbage that was S4 then fine, but to call people sexist for criticizing it reeks of closemindedness and narcissism. A lot of the comments he's gotten are unhinged and moronic.
He needed to do a better job explaining the Catalast rail line grift. They use land parcels and company shares interchangeably, they keep alluding to other shit like city contracts for the construction but then not explaining them at all. I watched it twice and I'm still not sure whether Caspere was selling Frank some of his shares, or land parcels, or whether he was just brokering the sale from Catalast on Frank's behalf. The CEO at the end says Caspere was always planning to rip Frank off but I don't understand what form that would have taken. It just needed more elaboration.
I think a lot of the rail line plot was left on the cutting room floor. It really feels like there was originally more there.
Pretty sure Caspere was just the broker of the sale and his holding his money/pissing it away is what fricked Frank in his ass and dropped him back to square one—but I’m more than happy to have a reason to rewatch the “worst self/best self” season again.
Random S4 b***h will never replace the King of KINO.
Dropped it after episode one because it was just straight up boring. It doesn't help that there is no concrete answer why people even love it so much. "Atmosphere", "acting", "cinematography". I don't care about this superficial crap. just tell me you liked it because you though it was deeper than it actually was with philosphies that merely acted as window dressing. It was all stolen too
>ust tell me you liked it because you though it was deeper than it actually was
But that's not why I liked it. I liked the atmosphere, I liked the acting, I liked the cinematography.
>acting and cinematography
>superficial traits of fricking tv show
>pretty pictures
>and moving around and saying words
>not superficial
lel. Super pretty pictures and le epin moving around and saying words never made a bad show good.
Why do you bother with tv shows? Just read the scripts.
First 3 episodes of S1 is probably the most bored I ever was watching anything. After that it got to tolerable levels or I just got stockholm syndrome'd. Still, nothing fricking happened, it was just shitty family drama, pseud ramblings and...that's it. Why did this shit need 10 fricking hours?
Back to dopamine simulator moron.
>no, you see you are just not intelligent enough to watch paint dry
Apparently so.
What show do you prefer?
>t.21 year old zoomer with adhd and fried dopamine receptors
>pathetic contrarians still trying to gaslight people into watching this turd
Season 1 is still the only thing worth watching.
>People can't be sincerely enjoying a show I didn't like. Its a conspiracy!
Schizo
It's so tiresome, how blatant it is
>makes a pseud statement about S2
>holy basederino
Yep, totally organic conversation there.
I was on infinitychn back when this season aired and I remember one critizism in particular: when the bad guys where in the sex lodge they were saying something like
>we're evil guys and we have all our evil deeds in this contract here
>we will gloat about it in front of this giant ass window here
Of course the scooby gang was there to overhear them, steal the contracts, etc. Mind you, the trio did not know what would they find sneaking into the compound but the script just gave it to them. Remember season 1? Where you have dozens of scenes of Rust pouring over files, doing legit research and legwork? Do you remember how much prep work they did before going undercover and even then shit blew up unexpectedly?
Compare the same situations in S1 vs S2 and it is clear that S2 had no focus, was rushed and zoomers who were 12 a decade ago are now claiming stolen valor. Gee, it's the prequels all over again.
Shizo post
Not even going to adress the lazy writing in the unathomably base-tehe-derino kinography of your tv series? Jesus you zoom zooms are shit at the internet.
When I'm driving through the night feeling a whisky buzz and smoking a cigarette it's not Rust and Marty I can feel the presence of in my car. Its Ray and Frank. Don't expect normies to understand this but it fricking means something
Insurmountably based
I'm gonna watch the whole season of td2 again. Thanks bros.
you are not alone
civillians wouldnt understand brother *salute*
I guarantee this is forced discord homosexualry
I like when Frank called Osip a fricking israelite. How's that for your theory?
This and liquidating those fricks >> anything in s1
S1gays and S2gays should be frens.
>rust decides to not mow the lawn
>instead calls a gardener
>childress and sons arrive
Ew lad, I would love to see the doujin of that.
Honestly? This is the kind of shitty writing I would expect.
>detective series
>that means everything is chekov's gun
>>rust decides to not mow the lawn
Killer is mowing lawn when first shown on screen
KINO
>88
It is written
>99
Its meme magic bros. I can't even rn
This is as moronic and pathetic as blue haired dykes clapping like seals because a movie has a gay Black person kiss scene
One gets you fired and one gets you promoted, obviously not the same, Black person
On a fundamental level it's identical since you're both just clapping because man on tv said buzzword you like
>they said X!1!
>zomg I feel so heckin validated rn
Fersure b fersure
Eat shit Black person homosexual, then bend the knee to superior kino
S2 had a lot of wet fart episode endings compared to S1
Your whole life is a wet fart ending
Filtered? I suppose we all are, in a way. Every day things happen that we don't understand.
kino
>Quality
2 > 1 > 3 > 4
>Chudness/Anti-wokeness levels
2 > 1 > 3 > 4
Of course they don't want you to notice this.
Truth
>gay and female lead
>less woke than S1
The gay doesn't want to be gay and the chick knows she can't take on a man on her own.
it's not completely pozzed obviously but its still way closer on the woke spectrum than season 1
Showing redpilled depictions of women and gays is chuddier than avoiding them completely.
>The gay doesn't want to be gay
Which is clearly portrayed as a huge character flaw
The sex party scenes were good, but the whole situation was moronic and not thought through at all.
>something other people didn't like
>i tolerated it
>"filtered"
>it and Who Framed Roger Rabbit are stealth Chinatown/The Two Jakes sequels
>completely flies over people's head
is there a word for someone who's so predicably contrarian that you can guess their opinion on any given subject before theyve even opened their mouth?
>they CAN’T POSSIBLY LIKE WHAT I DON’T LIKE!!!
>they HAVE to be going out of their way to mess with me!!!!
Frick off homosexual
not an answer
It’s an answer, just not one you like.
's'not
Start asking the right fricking questions
Cinemaphile user. Noam Chomsky
Ideologue. It applies to all of them, not just the contrarians.
There are anons ITT physically ripping their hair out and foaming at the mouth at the thought of someone liking a show they don’t
This is why I love S2 threads kek
>you're mad in my headcannon so i win the discussion
lmfao
shot twice with shotgun at close range, some bruises
but, but, sandbag, birdshot, blanks or something
Why do drunk people survive car crashes more than sober people, anon?
He had two KJV bibles strapped under his shirt. They saved his life
>He had two KJV bibles strapped under his shirt. They saved his life
Oh.
He was really shooting at God.
Really? I think he was wearing kevlar.
lit reference
god trench guns are so sexy
>some bruises
Heart ache 🙁
>birdshot
I always participate in Caspere posting but the last time Cinemaphile meme’d me into watching something it was The Terror (snore) and S2+ of TD is already notoriously bad. Even the fans of S2 ITT are like “it was good for what it was” which bodes even less well but I’m tempted none the less. Should I or am I gonna be pissed off at how shitty and pozzed it is the whole time?
It came out 8 years ago anon. You’ve read the thread, and seen the conflicting opinions. What frickin use is it asking if you’d like it? Just watch it and decide if you liked it. It’s like 8 episodes.
Ok fine but answer me one thing: is it pozzed or tolerable? Is there anything to do with hatred of white people or trannies or anything like that? I can tolerate a gay storyline if they’re just gays for the sake of being gays but I don’t wanna hear about fake gay problems like bigots and shit.
>Is there anything to do with hatred of white people or trannies or anything like that?
Nope. It's clean.
t. Hollywood israelite seething endlessly at the mere existence of Whitey
Nah, none of that homosexualry in there. Just a messy story for 90IQ sportsball watchers.
It's good, just not as good as S1.
Why did this warehouse blow up?
Some meth stuff blew up or something.
Nerve gas leak
I kinda liked that dude, reminded me of one of my old co-workers.
He was rotten to the core and an alki.
>honkeys see gay people in beer commercial
>THIS IS LITERALLY CRACKER GENOCIDE
Season 2 is pure kino but doesn't lend itself well to passive watching. It's very rewarding if you fully immerse yourself.
I do a rewatch every few years where I pretend I'm Ray for the time it takes to complete the season. I'm drinking spirits, chain smoking and doing the occaisional line of coke. Taking down notes about the case like names and connections between characters in a leather bound book I have. It can get pretty intense. Between episodes I was screaming out in frustration punching my couch until exhaustion while drunk as frick and letting my own dissatisfactions about life combine with Ray's feelings
Sounds schizoid and comfy.
least mentally ill schitzo
>ASS-PEN
>I'll come back and buttfrick your dad with your mom's headless corpse
>He took them out the locker and what? Shit on them? (Lebrons)
The Velcoro dialogue with the bully really sets the tone. The goes right to the line of being over the top and stupid but somehow ends up being apex kino. It could be the dumbest shit ever written if the performance didn't sell it so well. It takes you right to the elevated art realm. None of your preconceived notions of quality apply anymore. The whole game is changed.
webm'd that real quick before we archive
>people say season 2 is worse but they can’t even explain the plot or themes
So what are the plot and themes of S2?