>implying God is not just a modern reskin of Jupiter
8 months ago
Anonymous
go back, homosexual
8 months ago
Anonymous
Back to what, ancient Rome?
8 months ago
Anonymous
kek, no
back where you belong with the other fedora midwits
So you don't even know the influence of christianism on Tolkien's life and work?
Can you please find out about before posting here?
you replied to the wrong person, moron
8 months ago
Anonymous
>back where you belong with the other fedora midwits
I first came here during Project Chanology, I'm right where I belong kek
8 months ago
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fair, plenty of midwits here too, obviously
like dumb homosexuals that think the Christian God came from Zeus/Jupiter kek
8 months ago
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Its closer to Aristotle's Unmoved Mover
>He was based because he le heckin thinks killing people is good!
YWNBAC
He was Irish, they are less weepy about these things.
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>Its closer to Aristotle's Unmoved Mover
yes, in that it shares similarities
Aquinas kind of extrapolated on that later
but there are really no similarities between Zeus/Jupiter and the Christian God
zeus is a pretty close lucifer/satan figure, though
8 months ago
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More Roman concepts of Jove Pater "Our Father" are actually pretty close.
Remember that the myths as we understand them were not what the actual Priests believed about the gods.
8 months ago
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even Varro didn't like the gods, Augustine pointed this out
they are nothing like Jesus
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but the entire greek/roman backstory for their gods makes zeus/jupiter far from the Creator of the universe
he himself was created and was not all-powerful
it is only the most superficial, grasping similarities straight out of nonsense bullshit media like Zeitgeist
8 months ago
Anonymous
So you don't even know the influence of christianism on Tolkien's life and work?
Can you please find out about before posting here?
8 months ago
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>Zeus >stops drinking/eating ambrosia >dies
kek
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>God >nailed to a cross by a butthurt israelite
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>jews were evil to something pure
Sounds realistic.
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Makes sense to me, I don't get why some philosophers and abrahomos insisted on God(s) being omnipotent, it makes more sense and fits right with bleakness, shitiness of the world and the problem of evil.
It's the sacrifices part of the paganism that don't make as much sense, but in a sense even Christianity retained that aspect via prayer, pilgrimages and so on.
8 months ago
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Tell me about that story in the Bible, when God changes himself in animal to rape women.
8 months ago
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>he doesn't know about the indo european Sky Father
8 months ago
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>internet atheists make fun of "sky daddy" for years >it's actually real
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atheists' only recourse in their denial of reality is mockery and condescension, a petty and pathetic attempt to belittle the supreme
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for anyone paying attention: all of the old gods, including jupiter, weren't taken remotely seriously in ye olde greco-roman times after around the 4th century bc. outside of a few squirrelly cultists, they were paid about as much reverence as americans pay to uncle sam or paul bunyan
8 months ago
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You're right but your date is several centuries too early haha. Read any literature from 3-4th century bce for evidence otherwise.
8 months ago
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>old gods, including jupiter, weren't taken remotely seriously
the more things change the more they stay the heckin same
I know people who believe in northern European pagan gods which derive from the same indo-european religion as the greek religion does.
Not those homosexual hippy tree loving orgy havers.
8 months ago
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>Not those homosexual hippy tree loving orgy havers.
Watch your mouth
Yes, the entirety of the west who's political and philosophical gods are the Greeks. That's hundreds of millions right there. Go back to China, Black personhomosexual.
Grey morality is Christian morality. Christians hold humans to be sinners who will struggle with sinful urges through life and will know no purity until death. Righteous heroes who are naturally good and never falter are not a Christian construction.
Dumbass, Frodo falters. He is nearly corrupted. No hero is all good. It's the choice to choose good in the face of evil that is Christian morality.
This happens in the bible too. But christians just wave their hands, say "old testament", and expect that to settle things.
As if it was a different god that did those things.
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>This happens in the bible too
yeah
my favorite part of the bible was when abraham was condemed to have his liver eaten every day by a crow because he gave fire to humanity
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That happens in the bible too. Except instead of Prometheus it's Jesus.
Both stories are about eliminating the need to sacrifice animals to the gods. And a god suffers to make it happen.
But I bet you don't even know what I'm talking about. As usual people only know half the Prometheus story. Google Trick at Mecone.
Grey morality is Christian morality. Christians hold humans to be sinners who will struggle with sinful urges through life and will know no purity until death. Righteous heroes who are naturally good and never falter are not a Christian construction.
The books don't really have as clearcut morality. At the end Merry and Pippin are quite bloodthirsty and Frodo tries to hold them and other hobbits back from outright killing instead of capturing of Saruman's half-orc men. There are moments where orcs are shown to have a human side like the times they express dislike towards Sauron and reminiscing of old times.
sorry you have a fricked up personal life but normal people would be driven to bloodthirsty rage if disgusting evil creatures tried to murder and enslave your own people. are you israeli or something?
>There are moments where orcs are shown to have a human side like the times they express dislike towards Sauron and reminiscing of old times.
Those Orcs just missed not having a biggest boss force march them across a continent and wanted to go AWOL to find a isolated place to raid humans as their own bosses.
Good good, evil evil. Simple as.
We are flooded by series where 'heroes' keep commiting atrocious things or spout immoral horseshit while heroic music plays and it gives even the most passive of consumers a burst of cognitive disonance.
I think Daenerys from the GoT might be the best recent example of that.
oh frick off it's literally the meme about true good and true evil vs grrm cringe that's always posted but now it suddenly "doesn't make sense". frick off
I wouldn't say they're growing up. 99% of them are sheep with groupthink. They see the pendulum swinging back the other way, and the craftiest of them are abandoning ship to return to 'trad' ways in order to snare naive men.
This is why it's okay that so many are becoming barren roasties right now; an entire generation of women is being heavily filtered. Women who choose and want to become mothers, are passing on their genes, while toxic cat woman wine aunties are removing themselves from the gene pool.
What most of this website doesn’t understand about women is they like comfort and safety, at least healthy women. There are some women who are genuinely deranged and seek abuse out of some perversion to their psyche combined with their boredom. But women naturally like to feel safe, intimate, cared for. So degeneracy like GoT will excite younger adrenaline craving women, but as they get older and the rush of adrenaline is less wanted, they realize how pitiful the moral dimension of soaps are and want something higher and generally good. That is why it is good to date women and not girls in the bodies of women. Maturity does a lot for a persons temperament and one of the things it does best is makes you appreciate the good more wholly and completely instead of digging at it to try to prove the bad because deep down you’re a hurt edgelord.
women just want to relax, but they cant because they are surronded by blacks. basically, they have Black person fatigue but are too politically correct to say it.
Yeah women are enigmas, just nod at what they say pick a few keywords to expand upon and they will just babble for years. I think they just yap to see if you will tolerate them tapping enough to frick them
Women talking seems to be some mechanism of trying to suss out if you're "okay", and can be trusted. They're never really talking about anything, as much as they're kind of just trying to feel you out.
Women are so fricking stupid even a movie will make them feel on edge or safe. Lotr is pure good. I rewatched them a week ago. Boromir is the closest thing to a complex character and even then you get 9 foreshadows of "this guy will be evil btw". Aragon is also the ultimate Chad. He will always win. He won't betray his waifu elf. He is twilight Edward levels of frickery where he's 80 years old but looks and acts like a 30 year old (wisdom AND youth. God combo for women).
I did find it funny that Gandalf was an abusive ass though. The way he speaks to merry and pippin is surreal. Guy calls them dumb and gets mad as frick at them constantly. But Gandalf is good so it's just daddy energy to girls.
>I-I'm not a gay! >It's just friendship bro >You just don't have friends
Nice cope gayboy. C. S. Lewis said it so it MUST be true
>gays who used to play homosexual games with their friends when they were kids and never grew out of their sexual exploration phase and now consider anyone close to them a potential sexual play-associate
>Nooo my heroes weren't written as gays >They just give smooches like four times in the books and live together in Bag End but totally no homo >You're a gay
Don't stress over it. It's natural that Tolkien put some self inserts of him and his trench lover in his work
I think Lewis was more based.
He wrote a whole essay on how Pacifists are cowards and how capital punishment is more ethical than life in prison or "Social Reconditioning."
Honestly, two men agreeing to fight to the death, in a legally regulated setting seems like a perfectly valid way to solve a dispute, and would probably solve plenty of problems.
Overly aggressive people select themselves out of the gene pool by opting to duel.
Everyone behaves more respectfully to each other out of the knowledge that they may be challenged to a duel, and look like a coward if they refuse.
What's wrong with this as a thing?
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It was outlawed because it ended up with people challenging each other to life or death duels over the pettiest shit.
8 months ago
Anonymous
But then you end up with one less of those two people.
8 months ago
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These people might leave families behind, plus you don't want important people to just up and die. The people duelling would likely be important nobles or military officers.
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>I don't want rich toffs to off themselves over their petty disputes
Don't I?
If you're such a blundering idiot that you would enter into a duel, the world is probably better off that you die in that duel. It's a great system for regulating society in that way.
8 months ago
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Oh yeah, idiots like Galois were really improving the gene pool by getting themselves killed over trivialities.
8 months ago
Anonymous
it was probably not uncommon for skilled duellists to try and bait others into duels deliberately. like you're talking to some dude who is just waiting for you to say the smallest thing he can spin into a reason for a duel.
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Yeah, and also because as governments and militaries became more sophisticated and advanced, it became more expensive to train officers. And most officers were nobles, and most duelists nobles, so yeah it had to go when you have people who you've put all this money, resources and training into killing or maiming each other over stupid shit.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Because we still get it but now it's diverse which makes it good
8 months ago
Anonymous
All true but a lot more promising young men would be dying over pussy.
Except the elites don't give a shit about resentment or honor anymore. They use lawsuits to screw over competition and to exploit loop-holes in the system to earn extra income.
It's a combination of mentally ill people who can't concieve of not wanting to frick everything that moves since their lives revolve utterly around sex and sexuality and immediate physical pleasure, and those in power who want to destroy friendship and community so everyone is loyal only to them and will obey unthinkingly and without any thought of what anyone else might want.
But mainly it's because friendless sex addicts can't comprehend friendship and assume everyone else, like them, is secretly sociopathic and only does anything to gain pleasure for themselves. Thus friendship and caring for others simply for the sake if caring for others is totally alien, and the only way they can understand it is to assume lust is involved because sexual desire is the only "illogical" motivation sociopaths understand.
I feel for all the porn fried homosexuals that don't understand the feeling of true friendship.
Being able to call another man your brother and mean it while not actually being related is a nice feeling.
Hamas are brutal literal terrorists while IDF are huge c**ts to them overall. The idea that you have to target and kill civilians for no reason other than you why you is hilarious.
Thank God BLM is marching for the poor, oppressed terrorists kek >Think of the children!
I do and so do Hamas. It's why they launch rockets beside schools. Cowardly sand joggers.
Millennials, women and weak men coordinated by peer/political pressure have irreparably ruined middle-earth forever. People like Bezos ensure that integrity will not be regained.
>Millennials, women and weak men coordinated by peer/political pressure have irreparably ruined middle-earth forever
tolkien's vision of middle-earth is untouchable and unalterable. the books are still there and will be there as long as men care to remember them, morons making mockeries of them can't harm them any more than "the message" can ruin the KJV.
looks like your average event for "game developers", except everything is tangential to Tolkien instead. how the frick does a tiny minority infiltrate ALL things at once??
For Melkor had not the secret fire, and could not create anything new unti himself, so in his hate he strove to corrupt and diminish all those good things which the Valar had done
Probably because of the Saruman of many colours bit.
I'm guessing they took the Saruman of many colors bit and pretend he was wearing a rainbow pride outfit.
>"I am Saruman the Wise, Saruman Ring-maker, Saruman of Many Colours!" >'I looked then and saw that his robes, which had seemed white, were not so, but were woven of all colours. and if he moved they shimmered and changed hue so that the eye was bewildered. >"I liked white better," I said.
>"White!" he sneered. "It serves as a beginning. White cloth may be dyed. The white page can be overwritten; and the white light can be broken." >"In which case it is no longer white," said I. "And he that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
>mfw
Even claiming he's tsundere towards Théoden and Gandalf would make more sense.
>"I am Saruman the Wise, Saruman Ring-maker, Saruman of Many Colours!" >'I looked then and saw that his robes, which had seemed white, were not so, but were woven of all colours. and if he moved they shimmered and changed hue so that the eye was bewildered. >"I liked white better," I said.
>"White!" he sneered. "It serves as a beginning. White cloth may be dyed. The white page can be overwritten; and the white light can be broken." >"In which case it is no longer white," said I. "And he that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
>And he that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
I find this phrase pretty funny and ironic, because in particle physics and quantum mechanics you often must smash things together in a particle collider to figure out what they’re made of.
Evangelion had Christian imagery because the creator randomly looked at Bible pages and took terms he thought looked cool (because Christianity was exotic to him). But it didn't have a Christian meaning.
Lord of the Rings doesn't have Christian imagery, in some ways it is even more Nordic. But has Christian themes.
>"Traditional morality" is christian morality.
lol
lmao even
This
I think Lewis was more based.
He wrote a whole essay on how Pacifists are cowards and how capital punishment is more ethical than life in prison or "Social Reconditioning."
Lewis was a good goy cuck who begrudgingly accepted religion only due to Tolkien's extensive efforts to show him atheism is gay.
I swear, people cope about Tolkien being 1000% Catholic definitely-no-nonchristian-influences-to-see-here the same way they cope that Hitler's Germany was """Christian"""
What do you mean? The both of them were clearly pretty heavily into religion, even for the time. Especially Lewis who went nuts later in his life, and wrote whole books about Christianity. >definitely-no-nonchristian-influences-to-see-here
Well, no. Tolkien was influenced by old Norse and Anglo Saxon mythology too. In a way, Middle Earth feels like it's an exercise in making all of that stuff fit inside of a Christian worldview.
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No, Lewis was an edgy atheist back when most people didn't know what an atheist was. Years of discourse with Tolkien was what eventually led him to accept god.
Having read most of their works, Tolkien is a knower/believer who filters things through a Catholic and historical lens (of his own making, which makes it more thorough than most). Lewis was handed a finished essay, digested it, and regurgitated his own understanding based on someone else's research. I'm not saying Lewis' works are valueless, everything should be studied for thorough understanding, but it's like reading a children's bible when you could just pick up the less adulterated, real thing.
8 months ago
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>Lewis was an atheist
But isn't Chrnoicles of Narnia a heaven allegory or was this after his fedora phase?
8 months ago
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We should probably call a fedora phase something different if it happened during a time when most men wore fedoras.
8 months ago
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It's a modern term for modern discussion, no need to consider the fact they actually wore them at the time
8 months ago
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The series was written after.
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No, Lewis was an edgy atheist back when most people didn't know what an atheist was. Years of discourse with Tolkien was what eventually led him to accept god.
Having read most of their works, Tolkien is a knower/believer who filters things through a Catholic and historical lens (of his own making, which makes it more thorough than most). Lewis was handed a finished essay, digested it, and regurgitated his own understanding based on someone else's research. I'm not saying Lewis' works are valueless, everything should be studied for thorough understanding, but it's like reading a children's bible when you could just pick up the less adulterated, real thing.
>didn't finish writing
sorry
>feels like it's an exercise in making all of that stuff fit inside of a Christian worldview
Funny, I feel much the same way but the fact that it shines through as the meat of his works makes the Catholicism seem like window dressing. I don't knock it, he was simply trying to reconcile everything in his own mind, if not for others.
>But it didn't have a Christian meaning.
The show smacks you in the head with the idea that although existence is suffering you should nonetheless struggle on and love other people, rather than embrace a form of lonely non-existence. It’s not even up to interpretation, everyone tells Shinji this at the end.
Gal Gadot Wonder Woman destroyed a Catholic church in the first movie and after that every movie with her was a flop even on Netflix and Superman was a murderer there's no way that universe could have been a success
>Gal Gadot Wonder Woman destroyed a Catholic church
This is typically what israeli people do though. They even bombed a church in gaza recently. They also spit at Christians. It's a religious thing where they think God told them they are the best kind people, above that of Christians.
so the israelites are just flatly admitting that all of this questionable morality, grey area, expectation subversion media is really just psychological warfare?
>the good guys are all actually good
Brainlet take, but tbf Jackson exacerbated this by removing every shred of nuance the story, world and characters had in exchanged for ...... Capeshit action and quips.
Truly detestable attempt at adapting a piece of classic British literature but it's exactly the kind of cultural degeneration tripe Burgerclaps love
My mom taught a Yoga class with one of the guys who played Mary or Pippin, don't know which. He was staring at women in yoga pants. Some people recognized him from the films, and he grabbed a girl's ass. She looked like she was 19, and she just let him do it despite them just meeting.
>comfort-watch >the same women who watch horror films and true crime films to get the goosebumps imagine being the victims
god i hate women so much, kazhakstanian level
Everyone talks about childless millennial women. Not not enough to talk about how society is gonna cope in 10-20 years when childless very online millenial men are banging on about gay 19th century European philosophy while the world passes them by.
>women prefer movies written and directed by straight white men over the ones by Black person LBGTQ women >will keep forcing publishers not to publish books by white men >will keep forcing studios not to make movies directed/written by white men
those men can still go and impregnate chicks, they can go and have kids into their 80s and 90s
>implying the average nietzchean ubermench sun and steel bros will be super cool silver foxes when they’re older when most of them are spergy shut ins without a father fighter right now
a lot can change in 50 years, it only takes 1 good day to completely change life around
everyone has a father you absolute moron, you don't even know how people are made
I'm very online, a millenial, and a man and not childless....Although I don't give a shit about the god awful dog-shit "philosophy" of the 19th century, so maybe that's my saving grace.
You mean the Tolkien who claimed every Asian person would betray the white race to the forces of evil and most of them were subhuman barbarous monsters?
Kind of, he was not a KKK type or anything, but in some of his letters you can see him disliking globalism, for example how he doesn't like Africans and others using and abusing English language or something like that.
I also get a feeling that Tolkien didn't like modern world of his own time, so I can't see how he would look our own world.
They call Him “God the Father.” He is male, He loves us, and He sent His Son to teach us so that we would not be confused by the lies of men like this.
>exterminating white cultures
They did a piss poor job of that, which is to be expected from Christcucks, who half-ass everything. We still know about almost all of the gods and goddesses from Latin and Greek cultures, and most of their practices and mythology.
The only cultures that we don't know are the ones that usually didn't bother to write anything down in the first place.
funny you say that because while christianity rulled over europe whites dominated the entire world, for over a thousand years that was true
the second atheism and paganism started taking over in the 80s was the moment whites started to get fricked and that just keeps getting stronger with each year atheism gets wider
Christianity saved Europe from conquest over and over in the past you dumbfrick, we almost had it until the Reformation happened, that doomed the white race
LORD OF THE RINGS TAKES PLACE IN AMERICA
proof? >Arda canonically is a prehistory earth >they have pre Columbian exchange vegetables such as po-ta-tos, meaning it’s in lands of the western hemisphere/what would become the western hemisphere >mostly takes place in temperate forests and no tundra/snow is seen beyond the mountains so it’s likely not in Canada >this leaves the most likely location to be the US
checkmate euros
Middle Earth is Europe, America is Valinor. The Elves were Native Americans (Good with bows and concerned about living in harmony with nature and shit) that brought the potatoes over during their migration.
That he was a hoodwinked boomer just like the ones we see today. He has the same fallacy as every other sheltered WASP: "I know 1 that's half decent, therefore we must tolerate the whole race."
Tolkien had a pretty neutral view if dwarves are a stand in for israelites >The most that can be said for the dwarves is this: they intended to pay Bilbo
really handsomely for his services; they had brought him to do a nasty job for
them, and they did not mind the poor little fellow doing it if he would; but they
would all have done their best to get him out of trouble, if he got into it, as they
did in the case of the trolls at the beginning of their adventures before they had
any particular reasons for being grateful to him. There it is: dwarves are not
heroes, but calculating folk with a great idea of the value of money; some are
tricky and treacherous and pretty bad lots; some are not, but are decent enough
people like Thorin and Company, if you don’t expect too much.
Reminder that if it's not written in the books, LotR and Hobbit, it's not canon. All of Tolkien's letters and essays are the same tier as Rowling giving a HP fun fact on Twitter.
>christian morality
Didn't your god try to genocide the entire human race at one point? I don't think you're allowed to talk about morality. And remember that time he told the Israelites to massacre the Canaanites and take all their little girls as rape slaves.
if their god is omnipotent then morality isn't a concern for him. like you would take it up with him and throw a hissy fit stomping your foot on the clouds of his sky dome lmao
You guys need to make up your minds. Is God: >An all powerful, all knowing, unchanging personification of pure goodness.
or >A powerful entity that makes mistakes about genocide, and keeps changing his mind about morality.
It seems like he started out as the latter, and then over time you power creeped him up to the former.
>A powerful entity that makes mistakes about genocide, and keeps changing his mind about morality.
God never makes mistakes, Humanity kept making mistakes over and over, all God wanted was to saved us
That's because the LOTR movies are ironically the last remnants of the old white western civilization we all grew up in where things were safe and prosperous. Just like the Elves it is fading into nothing.
>>been 8 months since the last summertime saga update
Add 50% more to that. And it won't be worth it in the end >WOW now the images cover the whole screen
As a millennial man what is so bad about about us to millennial women? From what I can tell most men in my generation are a bunch of nerds and homosexuals.
well all the women are weirdly aggressive / dominant hyperbawds and FAT. chubby used goods by age 18, fat dike feminists by age 23, young obese wine aunts by age 30 etc. it's not like men got worse while women stayed the same.
The greatest mistake man ever made was listening to women. It was true in the garden of Eden and it was true during the first wave of feminism. When will we learn to stop listening to women?
Leave room for nature, and problems will solve themselves in time.
I wouldn't say they're growing up. 99% of them are sheep with groupthink. They see the pendulum swinging back the other way, and the craftiest of them are abandoning ship to return to 'trad' ways in order to snare naive men.
This is why it's okay that so many are becoming barren roasties right now; an entire generation of women is being heavily filtered. Women who choose and want to become mothers, are passing on their genes, while toxic cat woman wine aunties are removing themselves from the gene pool.
i keep reading this and it keeps not making sense
LOTR has "traditional morality". And the good guys are actually good.
In modern shows, there are the whole 30 layers of irony and a bleak immoral mindset where power is all that matters
"Traditional morality" is christian morality.
Before israeli nepostism took the entire werstern entertainment, where the "normal morality" is to be edgy and so-called subversive.
>"Traditional morality" is christian morality.
lol
lmao even
Oh, so you know people who believe in ancient greeks gods?
>implying God is not just a modern reskin of Jupiter
go back, homosexual
Back to what, ancient Rome?
kek, no
back where you belong with the other fedora midwits
you replied to the wrong person, moron
>back where you belong with the other fedora midwits
I first came here during Project Chanology, I'm right where I belong kek
fair, plenty of midwits here too, obviously
like dumb homosexuals that think the Christian God came from Zeus/Jupiter kek
Its closer to Aristotle's Unmoved Mover
He was Irish, they are less weepy about these things.
>Its closer to Aristotle's Unmoved Mover
yes, in that it shares similarities
Aquinas kind of extrapolated on that later
but there are really no similarities between Zeus/Jupiter and the Christian God
zeus is a pretty close lucifer/satan figure, though
More Roman concepts of Jove Pater "Our Father" are actually pretty close.
Remember that the myths as we understand them were not what the actual Priests believed about the gods.
even Varro didn't like the gods, Augustine pointed this out
they are nothing like Jesus
but the entire greek/roman backstory for their gods makes zeus/jupiter far from the Creator of the universe
he himself was created and was not all-powerful
it is only the most superficial, grasping similarities straight out of nonsense bullshit media like Zeitgeist
So you don't even know the influence of christianism on Tolkien's life and work?
Can you please find out about before posting here?
>Zeus
>stops drinking/eating ambrosia
>dies
kek
>God
>nailed to a cross by a butthurt israelite
>jews were evil to something pure
Sounds realistic.
Makes sense to me, I don't get why some philosophers and abrahomos insisted on God(s) being omnipotent, it makes more sense and fits right with bleakness, shitiness of the world and the problem of evil.
It's the sacrifices part of the paganism that don't make as much sense, but in a sense even Christianity retained that aspect via prayer, pilgrimages and so on.
Tell me about that story in the Bible, when God changes himself in animal to rape women.
>he doesn't know about the indo european Sky Father
>internet atheists make fun of "sky daddy" for years
>it's actually real
atheists' only recourse in their denial of reality is mockery and condescension, a petty and pathetic attempt to belittle the supreme
for anyone paying attention: all of the old gods, including jupiter, weren't taken remotely seriously in ye olde greco-roman times after around the 4th century bc. outside of a few squirrelly cultists, they were paid about as much reverence as americans pay to uncle sam or paul bunyan
You're right but your date is several centuries too early haha. Read any literature from 3-4th century bce for evidence otherwise.
>old gods, including jupiter, weren't taken remotely seriously
the more things change the more they stay the heckin same
morality has nothing to do with the name of your god, jimbo
I know people who believe in northern European pagan gods which derive from the same indo-european religion as the greek religion does.
Not those homosexual hippy tree loving orgy havers.
>Not those homosexual hippy tree loving orgy havers.
Watch your mouth
Sniff
Yes, the entirety of the west who's political and philosophical gods are the Greeks. That's hundreds of millions right there. Go back to China, Black personhomosexual.
christgays really are insufferable
Redditor.
Dumbass, Frodo falters. He is nearly corrupted. No hero is all good. It's the choice to choose good in the face of evil that is Christian morality.
there is absolute no morality in ancient greek histories
zeus rapes half the world and gets way with it
good people are punished and get tortured while bad people trive
This happens in the bible too. But christians just wave their hands, say "old testament", and expect that to settle things.
As if it was a different god that did those things.
>This happens in the bible too
yeah
my favorite part of the bible was when abraham was condemed to have his liver eaten every day by a crow because he gave fire to humanity
That happens in the bible too. Except instead of Prometheus it's Jesus.
Both stories are about eliminating the need to sacrifice animals to the gods. And a god suffers to make it happen.
But I bet you don't even know what I'm talking about. As usual people only know half the Prometheus story. Google Trick at Mecone.
Grey morality is Christian morality. Christians hold humans to be sinners who will struggle with sinful urges through life and will know no purity until death. Righteous heroes who are naturally good and never falter are not a Christian construction.
They all struggle tho, in the end not even Frodo is safe from the ring's corruption.
Anon, the entertainment industry was always ran by israelites
>muh christian morality
Hard to argue when the most extreme christian people tend to be cruel and hateful.
The books don't really have as clearcut morality. At the end Merry and Pippin are quite bloodthirsty and Frodo tries to hold them and other hobbits back from outright killing instead of capturing of Saruman's half-orc men. There are moments where orcs are shown to have a human side like the times they express dislike towards Sauron and reminiscing of old times.
sorry you have a fricked up personal life but normal people would be driven to bloodthirsty rage if disgusting evil creatures tried to murder and enslave your own people. are you israeli or something?
>There are moments where orcs are shown to have a human side like the times they express dislike towards Sauron and reminiscing of old times.
Those Orcs just missed not having a biggest boss force march them across a continent and wanted to go AWOL to find a isolated place to raid humans as their own bosses.
Good good, evil evil. Simple as.
We are flooded by series where 'heroes' keep commiting atrocious things or spout immoral horseshit while heroic music plays and it gives even the most passive of consumers a burst of cognitive disonance.
I think Daenerys from the GoT might be the best recent example of that.
>Good good, evil evil
How is that a christian morality?
Because in Christianity you must do good at all times, pretty simple
Daenerys was evil though, the show writers just didn't get it
*insane
It makes sense when you realize its a marketing article for the Amazon show.
Millennials are mentally ill and very stupid.
Tune in at 11 more more news.
Can you explain why in your opinion it is wrong to like LotR?
Where did he say that? You are just proving his point.
t. millenial
>not being nihilistic or a moral relativist is mental illness
>t. A definitely very not-mentally ill zoomling
its some gay x'er, nihilism is their whole schtick.
oh frick off it's literally the meme about true good and true evil vs grrm cringe that's always posted but now it suddenly "doesn't make sense". frick off
yeah but we've been telling stories like that for millennia and women are apparently just now getting up to speed. is it something in the water?
fair enough but shouldn't that be celebrated then? That women are growing up?
are they "growing up" THOUGH? or are they just becoming more masculinized?
I wouldn't say they're growing up. 99% of them are sheep with groupthink. They see the pendulum swinging back the other way, and the craftiest of them are abandoning ship to return to 'trad' ways in order to snare naive men.
This is why it's okay that so many are becoming barren roasties right now; an entire generation of women is being heavily filtered. Women who choose and want to become mothers, are passing on their genes, while toxic cat woman wine aunties are removing themselves from the gene pool.
Women stop maturing at 14, they’re just noticing the trends in men and follow suit, same thing they have done since the dawn of time.
women don't like gritty realism in movies. That's why the last 5-10 years there aren't characters that are complex and mix of good or bad
What most of this website doesn’t understand about women is they like comfort and safety, at least healthy women. There are some women who are genuinely deranged and seek abuse out of some perversion to their psyche combined with their boredom. But women naturally like to feel safe, intimate, cared for. So degeneracy like GoT will excite younger adrenaline craving women, but as they get older and the rush of adrenaline is less wanted, they realize how pitiful the moral dimension of soaps are and want something higher and generally good. That is why it is good to date women and not girls in the bodies of women. Maturity does a lot for a persons temperament and one of the things it does best is makes you appreciate the good more wholly and completely instead of digging at it to try to prove the bad because deep down you’re a hurt edgelord.
women just want to relax, but they cant because they are surronded by blacks. basically, they have Black person fatigue but are too politically correct to say it.
Woman don't want to feel betrayed because the character they are invested in does something bad. How does this not make sense? ESL?
Just spins to infect something enjoyed by straight white males.
There isn't any gay subversion of tropes like every piece of media made today
Yeah women are enigmas, just nod at what they say pick a few keywords to expand upon and they will just babble for years. I think they just yap to see if you will tolerate them tapping enough to frick them
Women talking seems to be some mechanism of trying to suss out if you're "okay", and can be trusted. They're never really talking about anything, as much as they're kind of just trying to feel you out.
Cinemaphile makes assumptions about women: the thread
Women are so fricking stupid even a movie will make them feel on edge or safe. Lotr is pure good. I rewatched them a week ago. Boromir is the closest thing to a complex character and even then you get 9 foreshadows of "this guy will be evil btw". Aragon is also the ultimate Chad. He will always win. He won't betray his waifu elf. He is twilight Edward levels of frickery where he's 80 years old but looks and acts like a 30 year old (wisdom AND youth. God combo for women).
I did find it funny that Gandalf was an abusive ass though. The way he speaks to merry and pippin is surreal. Guy calls them dumb and gets mad as frick at them constantly. But Gandalf is good so it's just daddy energy to girls.
That’s because it’s expressing women’s feelings.
>meanwhile in Gondor's jail full of homosexuals and the annual gays lapidation in the Shire.
>"Flaming" character literally thrown from the ramparts to his death
Jees, Jackson, calm down. We get it.
I think they just want to frick Vigo
Who doesn't?
You would say this about the black character if there was one.
>I think they just want to frick Vigo
They wanted to frick Bloom. Why do gay men insert their fantasies into women?
Reminder that after Sam finished the book and waited until his wife died, he jumped on a ship to Valinor to be with his actual only love.
Pathetic.
>so butthurt he got friendzoned he coined a bullshit quote to validate his cuckhold status
lmao
Frodo and Sam are not lovers, homo
>gays who used to play homosexual games with their friends when they were kids and never grew out of their sexual exploration phase and now consider anyone close to them a potential sexual play-associate
Wew.
>Nooo my heroes weren't written as gays
>They just give smooches like four times in the books and live together in Bag End but totally no homo
>You're a gay
Don't stress over it. It's natural that Tolkien put some self inserts of him and his trench lover in his work
>OH MY GOD, YOU KISSED YOUR DAUGHTER?
>I BET HE'S FRICKING HIS DAUGHTER
Get a load of the gay mindset, lmao, embarassing.
How often do you kiss your buddies? Don't overdo it or they'll realize your homosexualry and you'll lose them
>doesn't even fathom non-sexual intimacy
Jesus Chris buddy you are lonely
>Yeah I'm intimate with my friends. We throw some kisses here and there but so what? Lewis said it's fine so it's not gay
Not even your parents kissed you right..poor guy
Hell yeah
I fricking hate people and humanity, and wish a galactic-sized genocide on us, so never.
>I fricking hate people and humanity
Why be so bitter on others? You can just end yourself and all will be over
>you can just end yourself
Why? I never said I hated life.
>t.never had a best friend, or even a friend for that matter
>Berserk (1997)
I think Lewis was more based.
He wrote a whole essay on how Pacifists are cowards and how capital punishment is more ethical than life in prison or "Social Reconditioning."
>He was based because he le heckin thinks killing people is good!
YWNBAC
killing bad people is indeed good
We should stone criminals. It's what Jesus would have wanted.
It isn't wrong to kill those who have been deprived of their right to live
>Santa gives a bunch of children deadly weapons.
>"These are tools, not toys"
Yeah I'm thinking based.
He also once said that dueling was probably better than years of resentments and lawsuits.
Honestly, two men agreeing to fight to the death, in a legally regulated setting seems like a perfectly valid way to solve a dispute, and would probably solve plenty of problems.
Overly aggressive people select themselves out of the gene pool by opting to duel.
Everyone behaves more respectfully to each other out of the knowledge that they may be challenged to a duel, and look like a coward if they refuse.
What's wrong with this as a thing?
It was outlawed because it ended up with people challenging each other to life or death duels over the pettiest shit.
But then you end up with one less of those two people.
These people might leave families behind, plus you don't want important people to just up and die. The people duelling would likely be important nobles or military officers.
>I don't want rich toffs to off themselves over their petty disputes
Don't I?
If you're such a blundering idiot that you would enter into a duel, the world is probably better off that you die in that duel. It's a great system for regulating society in that way.
Oh yeah, idiots like Galois were really improving the gene pool by getting themselves killed over trivialities.
it was probably not uncommon for skilled duellists to try and bait others into duels deliberately. like you're talking to some dude who is just waiting for you to say the smallest thing he can spin into a reason for a duel.
Yeah, and also because as governments and militaries became more sophisticated and advanced, it became more expensive to train officers. And most officers were nobles, and most duelists nobles, so yeah it had to go when you have people who you've put all this money, resources and training into killing or maiming each other over stupid shit.
Because we still get it but now it's diverse which makes it good
All true but a lot more promising young men would be dying over pussy.
Except the elites don't give a shit about resentment or honor anymore. They use lawsuits to screw over competition and to exploit loop-holes in the system to earn extra income.
what does the C stand for?
Sounds like closet cope
Found the gay
>I-I'm not a gay!
>It's just friendship bro
>You just don't have friends
Nice cope gayboy. C. S. Lewis said it so it MUST be true
why'd this rattle them so much? friendship exists and it's an invaluable thing
It's a combination of mentally ill people who can't concieve of not wanting to frick everything that moves since their lives revolve utterly around sex and sexuality and immediate physical pleasure, and those in power who want to destroy friendship and community so everyone is loyal only to them and will obey unthinkingly and without any thought of what anyone else might want.
But mainly it's because friendless sex addicts can't comprehend friendship and assume everyone else, like them, is secretly sociopathic and only does anything to gain pleasure for themselves. Thus friendship and caring for others simply for the sake if caring for others is totally alien, and the only way they can understand it is to assume lust is involved because sexual desire is the only "illogical" motivation sociopaths understand.
Why would a ~~*minority group*~~ prevent the majority group from forming strong bonds you say?
I feel for all the porn fried homosexuals that don't understand the feeling of true friendship.
Being able to call another man your brother and mean it while not actually being related is a nice feeling.
Where else would he go you stupid homosexual? He carried the ring briefly, valinor was where he was meant to be.
Even the biggest “heroes” in movies today act like snobby twats half the time
And yet they cheer for the orcs over fighting for Hamas right now hmmmm.....
Well, it's orcs fighting orcs just like in the Pigkrain.
It's orcs vs Wormtongue so I hope they both kill eachother.
>for
You mean against.
Hamas are brutal literal terrorists while IDF are huge c**ts to them overall. The idea that you have to target and kill civilians for no reason other than you why you is hilarious.
Thank God BLM is marching for the poor, oppressed terrorists kek
>Think of the children!
I do and so do Hamas. It's why they launch rockets beside schools. Cowardly sand joggers.
Millennials, women and weak men coordinated by peer/political pressure have irreparably ruined middle-earth forever. People like Bezos ensure that integrity will not be regained.
These are the Tolkien scholars people call for answers? LMFAO
>here's your christian morality bro
Toppus kekkus.
I see Lassoth, but anything about only blacks in the books being "troll men of Far Harad"?
It blows my mind that middle-earth’s not!Africans are LITERALLY described as “half-trolls”.
And Amazon producers seriously think Tolkien thought of African bone-facial feature when he wrote the Harfoots, who were from the east, not south.
“He said brown, so that means literally African right?” Lmfao.
They tried pulling the same shit stunt with Game of Thrones too.
Drow elves are racist because only black people are allowed to have black skin!
>Millennials, women and weak men coordinated by peer/political pressure have irreparably ruined middle-earth forever
tolkien's vision of middle-earth is untouchable and unalterable. the books are still there and will be there as long as men care to remember them, morons making mockeries of them can't harm them any more than "the message" can ruin the KJV.
>orc representation and equitable taxation in post-anthroparchal gondor
>by GRRM
you've been had, the rest is real though lol
The Tolkein Society is literal meme now among fans for being a caricature.
looks like your average event for "game developers", except everything is tangential to Tolkien instead. how the frick does a tiny minority infiltrate ALL things at once??
For Melkor had not the secret fire, and could not create anything new unti himself, so in his hate he strove to corrupt and diminish all those good things which the Valar had done
CRT in a nutshell
“Saruman is a gay icon”
These people have zero worth or meaning in their lives, to reach like this.
>“Saruman is a gay icon”
I'm genuinely interested, why did they pick Saruman?
Because he goes from being white to being of many colors.
K E K
E E E
K E K
gays are so desperate they will reach for anything
>mfw
Even claiming he's tsundere towards Théoden and Gandalf would make more sense.
Dumb people believe the rainbow was always seen as a homosexual symbol and all sorts of other anachronisms.
Probably because of the Saruman of many colours bit.
I'm guessing they took the Saruman of many colors bit and pretend he was wearing a rainbow pride outfit.
>"I am Saruman the Wise, Saruman Ring-maker, Saruman of Many Colours!"
>'I looked then and saw that his robes, which had seemed white, were not so, but were woven of all colours. and if he moved they shimmered and changed hue so that the eye was bewildered.
>"I liked white better," I said.
>"White!" he sneered. "It serves as a beginning. White cloth may be dyed. The white page can be overwritten; and the white light can be broken."
>"In which case it is no longer white," said I. "And he that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
Always thought this just made Gandalf seem autistic
>And he that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
I find this phrase pretty funny and ironic, because in particle physics and quantum mechanics you often must smash things together in a particle collider to figure out what they’re made of.
And look what that led to? (Nuclear weapons).
They always pick monsters/bad guys to be allies. See: Pennywise and Venom. No, I don't get it either.
Because they know deep down what they are.
>unsafe
But, of course, the people “protecting” Tolkien are just as socially moronic, and entitled.
how the hell can you own a picture that's available all over the internet?
>which we bought for 18,000 at auction
No, you bought the photo. The copyright belonged to the original person who took the photo. Then again, I'm not well-versed in Bong copyright laws.
>Millennial women are discovering the christian morality of LOTR
>s-surely they will now become good decent christian moms r-right g-guys
frick off
>takes like half its lore from Norse religion and myth
>christian
lmao
>captcha:G4YDR0
It’s a mix of Norse influence and Christianity, yes.
Gandalf is literally an angel. He is also based on Odin.
>Gandalf is literally Odin
ftfy
It was both, the morality was overtly Christian. Tolkien was very devout, to the point he even did direct bible translations.
In a way, it is the opposite of Evangelion.
Evangelion had Christian imagery because the creator randomly looked at Bible pages and took terms he thought looked cool (because Christianity was exotic to him). But it didn't have a Christian meaning.
Lord of the Rings doesn't have Christian imagery, in some ways it is even more Nordic. But has Christian themes.
It has some Christian themes but many themes which are prechristian and contradict biblical morality
>contradict biblical morality
Do elaborate
This
Lewis was a good goy cuck who begrudgingly accepted religion only due to Tolkien's extensive efforts to show him atheism is gay.
I swear, people cope about Tolkien being 1000% Catholic definitely-no-nonchristian-influences-to-see-here the same way they cope that Hitler's Germany was """Christian"""
What do you mean? The both of them were clearly pretty heavily into religion, even for the time. Especially Lewis who went nuts later in his life, and wrote whole books about Christianity.
>definitely-no-nonchristian-influences-to-see-here
Well, no. Tolkien was influenced by old Norse and Anglo Saxon mythology too. In a way, Middle Earth feels like it's an exercise in making all of that stuff fit inside of a Christian worldview.
No, Lewis was an edgy atheist back when most people didn't know what an atheist was. Years of discourse with Tolkien was what eventually led him to accept god.
Having read most of their works, Tolkien is a knower/believer who filters things through a Catholic and historical lens (of his own making, which makes it more thorough than most). Lewis was handed a finished essay, digested it, and regurgitated his own understanding based on someone else's research. I'm not saying Lewis' works are valueless, everything should be studied for thorough understanding, but it's like reading a children's bible when you could just pick up the less adulterated, real thing.
>Lewis was an atheist
But isn't Chrnoicles of Narnia a heaven allegory or was this after his fedora phase?
We should probably call a fedora phase something different if it happened during a time when most men wore fedoras.
It's a modern term for modern discussion, no need to consider the fact they actually wore them at the time
The series was written after.
>didn't finish writing
sorry
>feels like it's an exercise in making all of that stuff fit inside of a Christian worldview
Funny, I feel much the same way but the fact that it shines through as the meat of his works makes the Catholicism seem like window dressing. I don't knock it, he was simply trying to reconcile everything in his own mind, if not for others.
CS Lewis made a book telling how he became a Christian, read it.
>But it didn't have a Christian meaning.
The show smacks you in the head with the idea that although existence is suffering you should nonetheless struggle on and love other people, rather than embrace a form of lonely non-existence. It’s not even up to interpretation, everyone tells Shinji this at the end.
>Nordic
And Celtic.
>women like one of the most highly acclaimed movies of all time
>this is somehow news worthy
I'm pretty sure my sister knows 95% of the dialogue by heart.
Sam impregnates a barmaid and that’s literally rape
that's why dceu failed especially with wonder woman and superman
Gal Gadot Wonder Woman destroyed a Catholic church in the first movie and after that every movie with her was a flop even on Netflix and Superman was a murderer there's no way that universe could have been a success
>Gal Gadot Wonder Woman destroyed a Catholic church
This is typically what israeli people do though. They even bombed a church in gaza recently. They also spit at Christians. It's a religious thing where they think God told them they are the best kind people, above that of Christians.
>Superman was a murderer
Ridiculous.
so the israelites are just flatly admitting that all of this questionable morality, grey area, expectation subversion media is really just psychological warfare?
>the good guys are all actually good
Brainlet take, but tbf Jackson exacerbated this by removing every shred of nuance the story, world and characters had in exchanged for ...... Capeshit action and quips.
Truly detestable attempt at adapting a piece of classic British literature but it's exactly the kind of cultural degeneration tripe Burgerclaps love
what about boromir, saruman, the king before he gets rid of wormtongue, and frodo that temporarily gets shaken by the ring at the end
t. moron
>women like boring shit that sucks ass
Post nose.
Reminder that all subversive israelites who refuse to acknowledge Tolkien's CATHOLIC morality are to be put to death
This is just the same cope reddit man children use, when watching cartoons meant for kids.
When you live in a liberal dystopia surrounded by violence and decay, seeing wholesome traditionalism feels nice.
>an entire class of person i can't have relations with
of course they like it! women are getting Room 101'd hard
what are they even talking about
women loving watch horror, true crime stuff, anything with "unsafe" characters
Yes LotR storytelling is for women and effeminate men. Tolkien obviously got diddled by a partner in the trenches
My mom taught a Yoga class with one of the guys who played Mary or Pippin, don't know which. He was staring at women in yoga pants. Some people recognized him from the films, and he grabbed a girl's ass. She looked like she was 19, and she just let him do it despite them just meeting.
Take your meds.
>comfort-watch
>the same women who watch horror films and true crime films to get the goosebumps imagine being the victims
god i hate women so much, kazhakstanian level
Everyone talks about childless millennial women. Not not enough to talk about how society is gonna cope in 10-20 years when childless very online millenial men are banging on about gay 19th century European philosophy while the world passes them by.
>women prefer movies written and directed by straight white men over the ones by Black person LBGTQ women
>will keep forcing publishers not to publish books by white men
>will keep forcing studios not to make movies directed/written by white men
those men can still go and impregnate chicks, they can go and have kids into their 80s and 90s
>implying the average nietzchean ubermench sun and steel bros will be super cool silver foxes when they’re older when most of them are spergy shut ins without a father fighter right now
a lot can change in 50 years, it only takes 1 good day to completely change life around
everyone has a father you absolute moron, you don't even know how people are made
>childless very online millenial men
I'm very online, a millenial, and a man and not childless....Although I don't give a shit about the god awful dog-shit "philosophy" of the 19th century, so maybe that's my saving grace.
I don't understand how you can be a racist and a fan of Tolkien. He would have hated you.
Every race should go back to their own lands, as he intended.
I'm not really a fan of Tolkien tbh, I respect his work and him, but I'm not really a Christian on any deeper level like he was.
You mean the Tolkien who claimed every Asian person would betray the white race to the forces of evil and most of them were subhuman barbarous monsters?
He didn't like Americans either
Britgay seething about his superiors nothing else is new
This anon is creating his own headcanons as a way of self acceptance.
The real philosophical disagreement is being a fan of Tolkien and NOT being an environmentalist.
>He would have hated you.
citation needed
Nah but he would hate trannies like you tho.
Not if he was alive in current year
Kind of, he was not a KKK type or anything, but in some of his letters you can see him disliking globalism, for example how he doesn't like Africans and others using and abusing English language or something like that.
I also get a feeling that Tolkien didn't like modern world of his own time, so I can't see how he would look our own world.
There are private letters he wrote during WW2 where he b***hes about how awful it'll be if America and its allies win the war.
>The good guys are all actually good.
Now tell them about Feanor.
>christcuck morality
Raping little kids? Exterminating white cultures and white Europeans? Bringing the dark age to Europe? Dooming the white race forever?
They call Him “God the Father.” He is male, He loves us, and He sent His Son to teach us so that we would not be confused by the lies of men like this.
So he has a wiener and when he fricks he spurts cum from it? How big are his testicles and is it circumcized?
Protestants think God has a wiener?
>exterminating white cultures
They did a piss poor job of that, which is to be expected from Christcucks, who half-ass everything. We still know about almost all of the gods and goddesses from Latin and Greek cultures, and most of their practices and mythology.
The only cultures that we don't know are the ones that usually didn't bother to write anything down in the first place.
funny you say that because while christianity rulled over europe whites dominated the entire world, for over a thousand years that was true
the second atheism and paganism started taking over in the 80s was the moment whites started to get fricked and that just keeps getting stronger with each year atheism gets wider
Christianity saved Europe from conquest over and over in the past you dumbfrick, we almost had it until the Reformation happened, that doomed the white race
the industrial revolution was a great mistake
as the real world increasingly turns into an insane shitshow, I think retreat into stories like LOTR makes sense.
LORD OF THE RINGS TAKES PLACE IN AMERICA
proof?
>Arda canonically is a prehistory earth
>they have pre Columbian exchange vegetables such as po-ta-tos, meaning it’s in lands of the western hemisphere/what would become the western hemisphere
>mostly takes place in temperate forests and no tundra/snow is seen beyond the mountains so it’s likely not in Canada
>this leaves the most likely location to be the US
checkmate euros
Maybe those crops were lost to Europe during the ice age, and only survived in the Americas.
Middle Earth is Europe, America is Valinor. The Elves were Native Americans (Good with bows and concerned about living in harmony with nature and shit) that brought the potatoes over during their migration.
Millennial women are worthless. I'm making bank, staying shredded and holding out for a gen alpha wife.
>implying generations aren't going to get progressively worse
lol my sister still watches the entire trilogy every time she's at home sick
who gives a shit?
I love the LOTR movies. any one care why?
spill it
I don't believe it
What happened to Orc rights?
It's always been everyone's favorite trilogy. This isn't new. People are reddit.
What did Tolkien mean by this?
That he was a hoodwinked boomer just like the ones we see today. He has the same fallacy as every other sheltered WASP: "I know 1 that's half decent, therefore we must tolerate the whole race."
Tolkien had a pretty neutral view if dwarves are a stand in for israelites
>The most that can be said for the dwarves is this: they intended to pay Bilbo
really handsomely for his services; they had brought him to do a nasty job for
them, and they did not mind the poor little fellow doing it if he would; but they
would all have done their best to get him out of trouble, if he got into it, as they
did in the case of the trolls at the beginning of their adventures before they had
any particular reasons for being grateful to him. There it is: dwarves are not
heroes, but calculating folk with a great idea of the value of money; some are
tricky and treacherous and pretty bad lots; some are not, but are decent enough
people like Thorin and Company, if you don’t expect too much.
Faramir (book at least) is actual jesus
Christianity did not invent Good vs Evil.
Reminder that if it's not written in the books, LotR and Hobbit, it's not canon. All of Tolkien's letters and essays are the same tier as Rowling giving a HP fun fact on Twitter.
I miss non-evil media bros...
It still exists, you're just too lazy to look for it
Spoonfeed me, please.
I love Tolkien and Jackson for making his work timeless, will forever make atheists and trannies seethe
I knew that LotR was comfy back when I was 10
I don't think you want to go down this road, Eurostani.
>christian morality
Didn't your god try to genocide the entire human race at one point? I don't think you're allowed to talk about morality. And remember that time he told the Israelites to massacre the Canaanites and take all their little girls as rape slaves.
>to massacre the Canaanites and take all their little girls as rape slaves.
Don't worry about it. He changed his mind later
if their god is omnipotent then morality isn't a concern for him. like you would take it up with him and throw a hissy fit stomping your foot on the clouds of his sky dome lmao
According to Christianity, children that aren't baptised and die suffer eternal damnation without forgiveness.
Quite the god Christcucks have there!
Cannanites were moloch worshippers.
And israelites were trickster deity worshippers.
And Christians were cannibal worshippers.
Jesus came and healed a canaanite woman demon-possessed daughter, God clearly changed his mind about canaanites
You guys need to make up your minds. Is God:
>An all powerful, all knowing, unchanging personification of pure goodness.
or
>A powerful entity that makes mistakes about genocide, and keeps changing his mind about morality.
It seems like he started out as the latter, and then over time you power creeped him up to the former.
Congrats on finally figuring out the difference between the old testament (based) and the new testament (cringe hippy garbage)
>A powerful entity that makes mistakes about genocide, and keeps changing his mind about morality.
God never makes mistakes, Humanity kept making mistakes over and over, all God wanted was to saved us
You have to understand man, they burnt children alive as a form of sacrifice.
Catholic doctrine, not Christian.
>cannibal worshippers
A misconception from Roman times over the doctrine of Communion.
>Catholic doctrine, not Christian.
IE, The largest denomination of Christianity.
>A misconception from Roman times over the doctrine of Communion.
Not according to Catholics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation
Yep they are the biggest, but they don't represent the beliefs of all Christians. Catholics believe some wacky things dude.
Even in the best light it's still spirit cooking
That's because the LOTR movies are ironically the last remnants of the old white western civilization we all grew up in where things were safe and prosperous. Just like the Elves it is fading into nothing.
You mean "Millenial women are discovering how to larp better as christians."
>24 dec 21
Religious warfare even here?
What is your favourite weg?
for me, it's Demon Deals
Haven't played that. Does it have a decent amount of content?
yeah
for me it's "Skip".
>What is your favourite weg?
Obviously
>been 8 months since the last summertime saga update
>still stuck at version 0.20
He's just flat-out given up at this point, hasn't he?
>>been 8 months since the last summertime saga update
Add 50% more to that. And it won't be worth it in the end
>WOW now the images cover the whole screen
You'll get wallpapers and you'll like it
Someone should show them Matrix and Blade Runner and tell them they're basically about the lost chapters of Christianity
The good guys are also all white.
As a millennial man what is so bad about about us to millennial women? From what I can tell most men in my generation are a bunch of nerds and homosexuals.
You answered your own question anon
well all the women are weirdly aggressive / dominant hyperbawds and FAT. chubby used goods by age 18, fat dike feminists by age 23, young obese wine aunts by age 30 etc. it's not like men got worse while women stayed the same.
Men stopped controlling their women, mistaking them for accountable adults who could make responsible decisions.
They were the canon Christians until Martin Luther wised up to the philosemitism and opened the pandora's box of protestantism.
The greatest mistake man ever made was listening to women. It was true in the garden of Eden and it was true during the first wave of feminism. When will we learn to stop listening to women?
Leave room for nature, and problems will solve themselves in time.
My demonfu
Is it Christian morality to trivialize war and make it look like Dynasty Warriors?
Are either of these actual women (born with female lady parts)?
yes
What, you can't tell?
I'm just very wary. You know. Gotta be suspicious these days.
Names? On the bawds, that is.
What about these kinds of women who still don't understand?
Reminder: Judaism was a religion of transition. Christianity was a religion of weakness. Islam was a religion of power.
I have never met a single female LOTR fan.