Nothing wrong with being a millitary nerd, not at all a boring topic, i get it, but what's with all the wanking?
Everytime when it gets involved in some cartoon there is always a bunch of people that complain that guys in green didn't wreck everyone, listing their real capabilites,
forgetting that not only their power was downscaled, but the antagonist's power as well.
To use the latest example: In "Amphibia" millitary is composed of few challenger tanks(or whatever it was) and a bunch of soldiers and gets defeated in seconds, that means in realistic scenario multidementional space empire would not have been blown up by superiors numbers and firepower of combined arms and then got force fed nukes thru portals, but would have posessed tech capable of waging it's own six hours war and tactical ability of generations of greatest minds combined together with computer efficiency.
And that's how it goes in most of these cases.
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I almost thought that was from Inside Job or Rick and Morty.
welcome to modern american animation
hey it looks better that anime or euroshit
look closely at the pic above and rethink what the frick you just said
I'm sorry you're legally blind, anon
On your home planet that is
you are fricking blind if you thought that was Inside Job or Rick and Morty
not rick and morty for sure but it could easily pass for inside job if you ignore the background
I genuinely had the same initial impression.
I was wondering if it was from the "Keep Summer safe" episode
I thought it was either of those without reading the OP but its Amphibia? Christ.
lmao same, I thought the screenshot was from inside job
It's not really wanking when the military always loses and people want something more than just that.
ask for bigger budgets and writers so encounter of worlds wouldn't look pathetic
^
It's not that they loose, I'm fine with them loosing
But it should be a battle at the very least
I mean if humanity gets defeated I want to see them truly get defeated after a fight of massive proportions
We will not die on our knees, I guarantee it.
The opposite can be just as (if not even more) obnoxious and boring.
Also see: The original "The Boys" comics
yes but the opposite almost never happens because Vietnam and then iraq completely shattered western interest in hero-soldier media
This.
The military shows up so the villain has something to destroy to show its power.
Watch a live-action movie then. Stop complaining that fictional army which can be as strong as it wants beats the real thing with magic powers.
Or, we can desire media which scratches the itch of seeing properly deployed firepower finally fulfilling its purpose a la Desert Storm.
Goddamn beautiful.
Media like that exists, it just tends to be a boring slog.
Mind naming some? Definitely interested in checking them out
Gate
>Watch a live-action movie then
Anon this is Cinemaphile.
Because it's boring and poorly written, the untied states army being defeated by a bunch of small robotic frogs and an autistic girl that were defeated by a couple of 13 year old girls and talking frogs is dumb
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>In "Amphibia" millitary is composed of few challenger tanks(or whatever it was) and a bunch of soldiers and gets defeated in seconds, that means in realistic scenario multidementional space empire would not have been blown up by superior numbers and firepower of combined arms and then got force fed nukes thru portals, but would have posessed tech capable of waging it's own six hours war and tactical ability of generations of greatest minds combined together with computer efficiency.
Protagonists being able to break frobos this easily was a plothole, not the US Army losing
The moment they were shown being overwhelmed by a few hundred silly little talking animals with forks and axes it estabilished their capabilities even if it makes no sense.
and tanks got eaten by birds
A bird that somehow got scarred by HopPop's makeshift spear but can tank a tank.
It's a strange situation. Sure, the robot soldiers are mass produced and have a lot less logistic problems with things like feeding them (they dont eat), but they're so flimsy that they die to mud and an old man's punch. When the invasion began it wasn't even countrywide, it just targeted a single city before failing. Assuming that the consequences of not stopping the big bad means that they take over Earth with no survivors, we'd have to assume those flimsy tanks were the peak of the human military's capabilities in this cartoon world. You could've have believed this with a lot of cope had it not been for the fact that the FBI (which is really the CIA for kiddies) has even MORE advanced technology than that.
I think that the real danger wasn't the Earth getting destroyed, but rather Amphibia, either by the human military nuking their ass back to the Late Devonian Period or getting Majora's Mask'd by the even bigger bad.
They can't send the nukes until they go through a voting in congress or something like that, though it'd be fun to nuke the frick out of Los Angeles.
>the untied states army being defeated by a bunch of small robotic frogs
We are talking about the same army that got beaten by a bunch of rice farmers
Again, that's what we call a leadership issue. There's a whole other timeline where we glass North Korea's supply routes.
Rice farmers with advanced soviet weapons and 300 thousand chinese soldiers to aid them
>advanced soviet weapons
The Russians giving them weapons is not really a secret.
at certain points in the cold war soviets slightly outclassed americans in terms of millitary tech
i know it sounds crazy today but it's true
>i know it sounds crazy today but it's true
The US goverment still use russian tech to this day.
It's a show about Anne saving the day. Not about the Military saving the day
Eleutheromaniacs fear the military because they know they will never control it.
That's why you need to go out and buy 50 handguns, so you can fight the military's tanks.
No, it's why the argument surrounding gun "rights" is moot.
Oh boy I get to post this again.
You still can't shoot a spy plane out of the sky with a glorified toy.
Citizen owned guns prevent tyranny my making resourses needed for opression of thios populace impossible to afford for the governent, of course millitary can citizens, but this escalation will kill the country, and lesser force can only bend citizens to a certain degree
>impossible to afford for the governent
They already own the bigger guns, what's a rifle-shaped pistol gonna do?
you are a fricking idiot, if every citizen has even a flisiest chance of being dangerous, and firearms sure as hell make you dangerous, it will make every confrontation with the citizenry a tense situation involving potential risks and requiring more equipment and manpower
;arge dissatified populace that previously could have been beaten into the line by fat fricks with police batons now requires a millitarized force to potentially wage a local civil war and that is not what finantial interest wants
>you are a fricking idiot
Given your spelling, I'll take that as a compliment.
I know I'm not wrong. You eleutheromaniacs think you can fight the government without eventually becoming another government. You want to kill your "oppressors" without being someone else's oppressor. You're the ones who put yourselves in check.
Also,
>flisiest
>dissatified
>finantial
More than typos, and more than one of them.
i literally don't look where i type
i'am also german
>i'am also german
My condolences.
yeah
This anon has "my life is an anime and I'm the protagonist" syndrome. Trust me, mac, you don't want to go up against the most advanced military in existence.
You can't fight your own people like you fight an opposing force. To destroy their infrastructure is to destroy your own. People are also much less willing to fight their fellow countrymen. Also, are you implying because they own "bigger" guns, a larger army can't lose to Guerrilla Warfare? Where have you been for the past 60 years?
Gorilla warfare can't stop a nuke.
No country is going to nuke itself.
Are you fricking moronic?
Actually, don't answer that, this is Cinemaphile so you're definitely fricking moronic.
>No country is going to nuke itself.
And no citizen would consider fighting its own country.
>inb4
Then they're no longer a citizen.
Jesus christ, you are actually, genuinely moronic.
If you actually think that a country would willingly nuke its own land, its own infrastructure, and its own people to stop a rebel force, you should legitimately never be allowed anywhere near any position of power, and if you found yourself in one you should be immediately assassinated, because you are too fricking stupid to be allowed any semblance of power.
this is the logic bootlicker homosexuals operate on
>No country is going to nuke itself.
belka was based you fricking homosexual
>No country is going to nuke itself.
You still think this, living in this clown universe?
Are you moronic? In what world would a Government ever used a Nuke, a rebelling force? Destroy and irradiate their land, making it inhabitable for centuries?
One missile is all it takes to clear out a city. Do it fast enough, it will only ever be -a- city.
You still think your funny names hurt me. Adorable.
>Do it fast enough, it will only ever be -a- city.
Lol, in the age of the internet if a rebel force saw you nuke one of your own cities full of innocent civilians all that'd happen is that more and more of the country would rise up and consider your government totalitarian.
Nevermind the fact that China and Russia would easily smell the blood in the water and do what America loves to do; financially and militarily support those various rebel forces.
Again, you are fricking moronic, please for the love of god don't ever be put in charge of anything more important than a fricking grill station.
>gorilla
I believe you are actually moronic enough to have misspelled this unknowingly.
>he said, forgetting that the word is spelled "correctly" in the post I'm replying to
>innocent civilians
If a city gets taken over by rebels and the citizens refuse to leave, they've also forfeit their citizenship.
>If a city gets taken over by rebels and the citizens refuse to leave, they've also forfeit their citizenship.
Again, you are fricking moronic, the world will be a better place if you are killed.
You still think rebels would bother rising up knowing they'd be outmatched against the full force of their "oppressors'" military might.
Because unlike you I'm not historically illiterate.
You'd think America's recent withdrawal from Afghanistan would have taught you something.
All the military might in the world means nothing if you don't have the people's hearts and minds, and America will never have that because American "diplomacy" is a joke, even within its own borders.
Any country that nuked itself would be immediately condemned by the international community and considered insane, thus destroying any of their global relevance and immediately leading to their decline, if not complete collapse.
>America's recent withdrawal from Afghanistan
That's called a leadership issue. Reminder: it always boils down to leadership.
>nuked itself
A rebel-controlled enclave is no longer part of the country.
>That's called a leadership issue.
No, it's called a "trying to take over via military might always fails in the end because the people you're lording over hate your guts and will gladly side with the people you're fighting at the end of the day."
>A rebel-controlled enclave is no longer part of the country.
Again, good luck convincing the international community of that.
You are a special kind of stupid, please never breed.
We're done here.
>the people you're lording over hate your guts
A monopoly on force should render that unappreciable.
>the international community
Means dog dick, because it's an oxymoron. Want to impress me? Make that "international community" a little less international, and not the way (You) would probably like.
Please get a Name/trip code, so I can filter you.
>so I can filter you
Well, when you put it like that, eat my taint.
>gorilla warfare
>gorilla
>tfw when you run out of troops, and need to send in the apes
Seriously, though, shit like using the wrong word is going to make you look flat out moronic, anon. Also,
>nuking territory you plan to control
I mean, if you care more about having power over the survivors than literally ANYTHING else... Really, though, a nuclear strike will destroy just about any resource you'd want to be invading/fighting over in the first place.
Anon meant what he wrote.
>shit like using the wrong word is going to make you look flat out moronic
>he said, forgetting that it's spelled "correctly" in the post I replied to, meaning I had to know what I was saying as I was saying it
>if you care more about having power over the survivors than literally ANYTHING else
As every government does, yes.
>Every government is content to rule a bunch of corpses
>Every government can afford to launch an attack with zero payoff
You absolute moron, a government can't function without resources. Seriously, the only thing missing from your string of idiocy at this point is you posting "marshall law" unironically.
Martial Law is simply Law. We just live under degenerates who would rather be lawless.
Anon, if you respond to every instance of dissidence with mass executions, you won't have a workforce for very long. Have you seen how a good chunk of the population reacted to COVID measures? Imagine how'd they react to neighbors and family members getting killed in indiscriminate strikes, especially if they didn't even have involvement with the rebels.
>if you respond to every instance of dissidence with mass executions, you won't have a workforce for very long
Tell that to the second-largest economy in the world.
you mean the one that is rapidly collapsing?
>totally happening for real this time!
Yes, that one. Even if its economy goes belly-up, that says nothing about the State.
That says literally everything about the government, anon.
>Oh, no, the masses are starving, and my Nation's inner party is large enough to repopulate the planet, whatever shall we do!
>the masses make up 99% of your armed forces
>entire nation is gobbled up by surrounding parties while the angry mobs hang you from a lamp post
And at the end of it all, you still have... wait for it... a government.
>le government still exists even if all the members of it are killed and the country is devoured by its neighbors
Some kind of government, yes, regardless of what eleutheromaniacs would want you to believe.
Not the same one that led to the starvation though. Even the most brutalized of populace tend to lose their shit when they can't keep food on the table.
Yet, for some reason, it always takes a noble, reedom-loving nation to make it collapse.
Not a typo, because I know some of you still think me saying "gorilla warfare" was done in incompetence.
go slurp down some more gutter oil, moron
>no rebuttal, just childish insults
It's nice when the mask slips.
>act like a moron and ignore history and everything anyone has replied to you
>get pissy when someone just starts treating you like a moron
You still think citizens matter to the State, when the State itself can fill every job required by the citizens.
What on Earth makes you think I even watch "normal" porn?
Modern China doesn't respond to dissent with mass executions. Tienanmen was a one-off thing 40 years ago, most likely started by a trigger-happy commander who didn't knew how to react, and which resulted in probably 900 casualties. There was a protest in Cairo in 2013 where about as many people died and it doesn't even have its own Wikipedia page.
The Uighur concentration camp thing is a meme.
The reason why there's social peace in China is mostly because the average worker see his life level getting better and better over the years. Same reason why western countries have more and more troubles keeping their social peace.
If the country faced deep economic crisis, no amount of social credit score degrade would stop the power from being toppled.
>no amount of social credit score degrade would stop the power from being toppled
The nukes would.
Oh for frick's sake.
Yes, it would be suicidal for any rebel group to form in a State with access to nuclear weapons.
It's going to put holes in the bodies of the government smugs. Rendering them very unsmug. You are probably lying but incase you are just ignorant, are you aware that pocket guns break kill records nearly every year? It's because they are easy to carry and most fights are unarmored 1 v 1 affairs.
don't you have some more Dipper porn to jerk off to, industrycuck
Man nobody cares about the military
MISSILE! NOW!
WHERE'S THE GIANT, MANSLEY?!
>but what's with all the wanking?
If anything cartoons don't go far enough.
Where's my Cinemaphile depiction of the Invasion of Ukraine?
would make for a good mix of "fullmetal jacket" and "enemy at the gates" if made from russian side
If ukies are protags it would be just another "bad russians" war movie
Sasha invading Andrea's country while she posts about it for likes
Andrea? the one from TGAMM?
Yes
>would make for a good mix of "fullmetal jacket" and "enemy at the gates" if made from russian side
>If ukies are protags it would be just another "bad russians" war movie
It would be generic "other country bad" propaganda in either case.
anly if talantless biased homosexual gets to film it
what is the case 99% of the time but let us imagine that it might be different this time
It would be "enemy at the gates" but accurate
Since when did we have Leclerc MBT?
also looks simmilar to korean k2 black panther
did US ever had rectanged tanks?
Why gendi dosen't even try to pick it up? it was a good fricking show
i liked the Hammer but i wished it acted more like an actual heavy mech. i did not like the part where it dodged just by having rockets move it left.
I like the hammer big and clunky design and how is more like a bipedal tank.
Cartoons tend to be made by people who know nothing about the military or guns or tactics, so any armed force is always incompetent.
The only animation where the military is allowed to not be completely incompetent 100% of the time and doesn't job at EVERY opportunity is anime.
it's an anime where someone calls helocopter "a metal pegasus"
this whole show seems to be written by a moron with a fetish for idiolized version of modern army and belief that medieval people were moronic
It's a fantasy world with magical creatures and no advanced technology, the hell else would they call a helicopter?
A mechanical Bee.
what if they don't have bees in that magical world?
Whatever words for
>screw/spiral/bladed/rotation/etc.
paired with
>wing/air/wind/sky
they have in their language, just like when helicopters and aerial screws were invented in our world, ya bingus. The concepts behind vertical ascension have been understood by humanity for thousands of years, it just taking advantaged technology to actually act upon them.
Failing that, I dunno, helicopters are definitely more insectoid than anything
But they already have pegasuses (pegasi?) and wyverns. Why would they compare it to abstract mechanical concepts instead of the real concrete animals they already know?
I want a scene of medieval people mocking calling something a computer mouse just to frick with people like you.
>that thing that looks nothing at all like a winged horse? lets call it a flying horse
them thinking a helicopter is some kind of mechanical insect makes more sense
insects are small
fantasy insects aren't
And now we're in just pretending to be moronic territory.
many fantasy settings have abnormally large insects
helicopters look more like a bug than they do a fricking horse
>why wouldn't they compare it to what they already have instead of abstract mechanical concepts
Again, the concept is simple enough that humanity has been aware of it for literal ages. It's not hard for them to figure that out. As to why they would use "metal pegasues" anyways despite knowing it's a machine, well it's obvious: they don't fly like pegasuses and they don't look like pegasuses. It's the same reason why cars weren't called metal horses, they were called horseless carriages. Metal Peaguses would work if they were on hoverbikes or some shit.
>oh but a computer mouse
It was nicknamed a mouse because it vaguely resembled a mouse. Clear shit going on there with the tail and what now. Helicopters don't resemble flying horses.
Besides, it's fukken magic land: you say that shit and someone will actually think they have literal metal flying horses powered by magic, rather than flying insectoid pew pew machines flying through mechanic air screwing
Gate was literally a propaganda campaign to get loser Jap weebs to join the JSDF. Was not successful at all.
Should have gone for a more realistic setting
>muh autistic nudity
Two bombs clearly were not enough.
American moment.
America protects autistic nudity as a matter of law. Disappointing, I know.
I've talked to a few people who have actually been in the military who love roasting Gate and it's author. It's good fun, but it's not accurate or faithful to how a real military would operate.
>Cartoons tend to be made by people who know nothing about the military or guns or tactics, so any armed force is always incompetent
So what? Its meant to entertain
>So what? Its meant to entertain
Lol, cartoons haven't been made to entertain in almost a decade.
Nowadays they're made for shipping 'tism and twitter good boy points.
And the concept gets old after the first episode, when I saw GATE I was "finally! a show where the military doesn't immediately jobs" but then we keep seeing the same and the the guys with guns defeat the orcs with swords and gets boring pretty quickly.
How about you make it actually competitive?
Ranged beats swords, theres no competition to be had there. At best you could make a sort of competition of magic vs guns, but then if you did make them equivalent to one another you'd basically have group A with regular guns against group B with regular guns but sparkly. And why do that instead of just a pure magic/gun thing anyway, easier to appeal to a single content.
I don't subscribe to your theory that magic elements existing on the Fantasy side to help make things more competitive against a modern setting always has to boil down to "regular guns but sparkly"...
It depends on what you want to do.
You can Make them immediately competitive by having Fantasy guys that are superhuman, can tank bullets while bigger shit like dragons can shrug off long ranged artillery. Modern has its advantages but it's going to have to be a lot smarter about how to handles a physically superior enemy.
Or if you want a Gate like scenario
>Fantasy realm treats its initial invasion like typical medieval warfare, gets mowed down.
>Fantasy real realizes quickly that they're going to get destroyed if they try that shit again, so they adapt.
>Get smarter with magic, using scrying magic and small specialized strike forces to disrupt supply chains and to replace key personal with doppelgangers. Take advantage of the fact that they can open portals and their enemy can't.
>Modern society in turn has to up their security, develop protocols for potential doppelgangers, and develop countermeasures against whatever the fantasy guys are sending through.
Essentially make it turn into a battle of intelligence and espionage.
More or less, except it takes place after the war has ended and an island has been designated as the Trade Zone between the two worlds. The guy is a cop who is a veteran of the initial war and pretty salty about it, and the girl is a liason who came to investigate a kidnapping and stayed on as his partner. Together they fight crime, which frequently surfaces a lot of the concepts you're talking about, like magicking a camera to transform into a gun when a spell is spoken.
Shame the anime is such janky crap, the LN is bretty gud.
I had a similar idea except with technology. Have an advanced civilization move in like Japan in Manchuria and push back the medieval types. Medieval types adapt and start to copy tech and buy stuff from dwarves or something. As war kicks up again the advanced nation is faced with tanks firing energy crystals and super alloyed fighter jets forcing a standstill.
The only thing this anime attempts to prove is a modern cucked militia. MILITIA. could easily push the shit in of a medieval army. Anytime they push the narrative of nations being nations they always wank superior culture folded 1,000 times in the forges of nagasaki and hiroshima. muh honorable mercenaries who murdered peasants for wrong-think and terrorized countryfolk for taxes to fill coffers of pedophile polygamists. superior indeed.
GATE was fricken trash
>the only time the military can "win" is if its just shooting people with 13th century technology
It's kinda funny just how superior the "competent military and portal to another world" show the US made is to Japan
Like most Isekai, it's an idealized depiction. In this case, of the Japanese military as perfectly hewing to Western military doctrine (in the broad sense) and ideals. The author was in the JSDF, so it's fanfiction of his ideal scenario. Either you find something to enjoy in someone else's fanwank, or you don't. I do think the manga is the superior adaptation, though - the anime blunted a lot of stuff that the manga slaps you in the face with, like the brutality of war regardless of doctrine. Your leg doesn't fricking care whether it got chopped off by a sword or blown off by a claymore. The anime is basically an advertisement.
Never watched/read GATE, but how do you wank the JSDF considering other countries have vastly more powerful/advanced armies?
by making every other army on the planet incompetent idiots who fear the mighty JSDF
no joke
It was lolworthy
To be fair they has a demigod on their side.
Why don't demigods just conquer the human world?
They have the JSDF effortlessly defeat the armies of other countries anyway.
Make them fight romans, thats it. they travel to a low fantasy world and fight guys in horses with tanks and machines guns and dragons with rocket lauchers and planes.
Magic doesn't even levels the playing field either since this mages are the kind that can only throw like 3 fireballs a day.
Would psuedo-Romans be easy to conquer, even if you had modern equipment? Sure they're vastly outgunned but they were also organized and numerous as frick
If you gave modern Japan a portal to alt Rome at the peak of its empire and told them they could go nuts? Yeah, the Roman government and standing army would be decimated immediately.
The real issue would be the survivors. Assuming our hypothetical Japan attempts to absorb this Rome into a Japanese empire, technology (and more importantly weaponry) is going to leak. Never enough for a full scale rebellion, but crime rates among the devastated population would sky rocket, and there's no way the JSDF would be able to police that shit.
It would essentially be a massive ghetto of "ethnic" people which hate their oppressors with a population that easily dwarfs Japan's.
Which is why Gate had the Senate split into peace and war factions, the opposing prince be a gigantic douche that brutalizes the territory he controls, and the initial land the Japanese can access be mostly vassals who are happy to switch sides. Good old divide and conquer.
>No see Japan was the good guys they NEEDED to conquer that land!
No, see, that land was always Japanese land. They aren't conquering it, they're liberating it.
As high as anyone in Wome, then?
Step 1: Have interdimensional gate open in Tokyo, accessible only from that one street.
Step 2: Declare that the land beyond is all Japanese soil, dare everyone else to say otherwise.
It is amazing the things people convince themselves of. One scene of unprepared spooks without so much as night vision getting wrecked by prepared Japanese special forces on their training grounds, and you shit yourselves. That's it, there's no other depictions of any other nations forces, but 8 years on and you still work yourselves into a tizzy.
>Step 2: Declare that the land beyond is all Japanese soil, dare everyone else to say otherwise.
This is probably the most unrealistic thing about Gate. The outrage from the international community alone would have Japan second guessing itself.
Also lol muh Japanese Empire 2.0 fan fiction.
Remember that it's in the context of first awareness of the gate coming in the form of a massive surprise invasion led by various monsters that wrecked a good portion of Tokyo. Thousands dead, etc. They had a big sympathy bank to draw on, and realistically, what ground do the other nations stand on to intervene, punish, or sanction Japan? The labeling of the attack as terrorism is obvious undermining of that.
Oh yeah all of Kore...I mean fantasy land belongs to Japan.
Think about it from a cultural stand-point, the US went through a lite-jingoism phase during the cold war and past 9-11, so after the effect was exhausted and counter-culture took place Americans started seeing any media that showed the military in any good light as a propaganda to some extent, meanwhile Japan post-WW2 has been neutered into not going jingoistic ever again, and unlike the US there is no such thing as a gun culture, you literally need a 95% accuracy to get a license (according to Wikipedia) but violence with and without firearms is very prominent in Japanese media because there is no political interest in saying it's propaganda nor is there the mental exhaustion of seeing the news talk about gun crirme every other day.
Only thing that trash showed that jap cucks could defeat fully autistic absolutely artificial and non-viable medival empire. Frick, this nobrain dummies didn't even use recon before any attack, that says all about qulity of this trash.
>The only animation
watch more animu
Good to know how strong the convictions of eleutheromaniacs really are.
You!
Can you explain why the enemy gets downscaled as well in your example, I saw that show and outside of the leader of the robot army being a moron who goes to fight himself instead of sending swarms or robots from the safety of his own dimension you don't really see him having more capacity that what we saw in the show.
because he dosen't exist outside of the show, in the context of the show us army is a few tanks and soldiers, and irl it's a grand force,
so scale newtopian empire in the same manner now and you'll get what i mean
That falls into the steven universe syndrome where they expect you to think the show takes place in a world like ours but then something very common place doesn't exist.
Lol clicked on the thread hoping to see some war machines in animation and comics, but it's nothing but off-topic. Cinemaphile is so shit.
>ywn join such badass army
>Norks made Americans look like gigga chads
lol
Chinese propaganda made Biden look like a gigachad. I don't understand how they can frick up so badly.
I prefer Brazilian propaganda.
Looks like an optional boss fight in SMT
Context?
Damn, if that was Biden I would be proud to call him president. We need a necromancer in office
Chinese propaganda is maybe of questionable effectiveness, but atleast it's not your american horrid stawman comicswith ugly artsyle and text all over
While I agree with your general assessment I believe you choose a bad example.
The alien army wrecking shit is a staple of Hollywood from the day the earth stood still to war of the worlds but usually we hype the invading force as something that conventional weapons just can't penetrate, in Amphibia we see those robots get cut like they where made of butter by two 14yrl girls with words, so its kind of ridiculous some guys with guns are having trouble shooting the swarms of tincans out of the sky.
a fun weird factoid: the US navy refuses to let the F-35 be depicted due to how big of a financial failure it wound up being. The last movie it shows up in is Man of Steel escorting the bomber into Metropolis. If you want to use a jet in your cartoon or superhero show you're strongly encouraged to use the F-16 or design a visibly different craft.
That's complete bullshit.
show me an F-35 used in a cartoon or film since Man of Steel
Terminator.
US military doesn't like the plane shown off because it's in active duty.
They feature prominently in the opening of Top Gun: Maverick and the plot makes a point they'd be able to handle the mission far better than the F/A-18.
The problem is F35 are single seater, so you couldn't film with the actors actually flying as they did, and the other due to all the classified capabilities as well.
cool, but what the frick were those thanks?
Military/gun gays are simply the real life equivalent of powerlevel autists. Never forget that time a militarygay was so obssessed with proving he was right in an argument about tanks that he leaked secretive military documents to prove his side
>time
It's happened several times.
>Never forget that time a militarygay was so obssessed with proving he was right in an argument about tanks that he leaked secretive military documents to prove his side
That actually happened 3 or 4 times.
And every time it was in War Thunder or World of Tanks.
Just a average day for War Thunder im suprised that happened so many times without some goverment trying to shut them down by now. Last i heard some Chinese tank information got leaked by a chinese tank crew member on the WT forums lmao.
Yeah, someone posted the Chinese tank round.
Mostly because milgays have never gotten a bone thrown their own way, so any time the military does show up they desperately psych themselves up into thinking that THIS TIME the formula will be bucked and the military will actually do something. Thus is the milgay cycle of hype-hype shattered-butthurt, just make an animated adaptation of a Tom Clancy novel set in the 80's and they'll be happy for the next 30 years.
>"Soldiers DIED because of the autist"
What do you people think should happen then? Marcy should go to juvie?
Dude. Marcy died. Then she was revived and became the puppet of a ghost. She was punished enough.
No, she was stabbed, then sent to a rejuvenation tank, then brutally violated (at first).
Most writers are turbo wusses who hate real life strong men. They also need foils and cannon fodder for their motion picture products and the military is an easy way to add some element of danger to a show, they can be either for or against the protagonists cause. It does get really moronic when you realize that all the soldiers don't know how to shoot and the weapons are nerfed to make the fights drag out. (You have to establish the protagonists and a cut above and you need a long enough fight to fill the time slot and provide action. Thus, weaponry can do any meaningful damage until the climax.) Never let the facts get the facts way of a good story. The problem is most stories just aren't very believable anymore so the old troupes stick out like sore thumbs.
Yvan eht nioj
I miss this show still.
It was the best propaganda.
I loved the screaming eagles when he opened his arms, which were full of GUNS
Good intro too. https://youtu.be/yP_bDKz7hxg
It's nothing compared to how great anime can be. Anime made by military autists is great. American animation could use more guys that just wanna show tanks, jets, battleships and giant robots just doing cool shit.
amphibia invaded earth, killed hundreds of civilians, destroyed famous landmarks and terrain and costed billions in damages, and Mutt tries to handwave it with a conspiracy theory joke to own the Q boomers...
outside of anne and her small circle of friends and allies, most people on earth would think amphibia was evil, tried and failed to invade them, and that all governments should be working together to build a portal big enough to send a nuke back through.
>Killed hundreds of civillians
Nope, they did get a few soldiers though.
>Conspiracy theory joke
I don't think that one was a joke. If anything, the joke was that people don't trust anyone from LA.
>Working together to send a nuke back at them
Did you forget we're only alive because of magic? Which we don't have any longer? Your proposal is stupid. Also why would we bother?
>and that all governments should be working together to build a portal big enough to send a nuke back through
You don't need to. The portals are big enough to send a grenade through. Just get a bunch of portal machines and a bunch of car batteries. And a bunch of grenades obviously.
That's why Sasha join NERV
the military would win more if the us government funded these cartoons as pure propaganda like they do the marvel movies (far larger audience, far bigger return on investment). Be happy you aren't getting military wiener shoved down your throat in every children's cartoon telling them to enlist in the next israeli war.
Remember how butthurt people got when Marvel did a thing with Northrop Grumman?
Why do these discussions always devolve into "we'd just nuke them lmao", as if there would be no humanitarian reasons that would prevent a nation from instantly resorting to the most extreme countermeasure.
People are moronic.
Look up in this thread and there was some moron arguing that america could just drop a nuke on one of its own cities if a protest got too rowdy and thinks there would be no backlash at all.
depends really
for example if we saw a vastly superior force land and tear their way through tanks with their bare hands then "nuke them" is a good solution
that being said, if we do end up in a realistic war with an alien species, no amount of nukes will help us in any capacity, since they wouldn't have to land anything to force us into submission
if they're capable of traveling near lightspeed they're capable of tossing a rock at near lightspeed which would just let them nuke the planet from the comfortable distance of fricking Pluto
>for example if we saw a vastly superior force land and tear their way through tanks with their bare hands then "nuke them" is a good solution
Even in the middle of a crowded city? God damn the nips were right, mankind is more frightening than Godzilla
If the USA had to trade one city for defeating an entire alien invasion they would.
Might not be fun to contemplate, but it's exactly what would happen
Sometimes I feel the people who get nitpicky about it (besides military autists) have some weird wounded pride on humanity's behalf. I remember hearing similar complaints about SU, people being upset that the FBI or whatever never stepped in to deal with gem shit
Ironically SU was supposed to have a MiB style side antagonist, but Genndy himself suggested Sugar axe them to focus more on gem stuff.
Regardless, Gem intervention in human development seems to have resulted in a more docile humanity, and the gems themselves don't seem like some massive secret.
>the gems themselves don't seem like some massive secret
Yea, it feels weirdly inconsistent at times. One time Pearl made a hologram for the townspeople and they just thought she was some kind of witch. Fast-forward a bit and suddenly everyone accepts living among aliens and having weird alien shit happen
Why shouldn't I prefer humanity to non humans?
Should xenophilia be a default?
Are there any comics or cartoons where cops and the army actually start using the shit from alien invasions and supervillains to upgrade their shit?
DCAU
I wouldn't say they jobbed, per se.
The general guy didn't just give up and retreat, he said "Get me the phone!", and that's how we got Mr. X and Anne's parents in the super suits, which was clearly the ace in their sleeve. They obviously didn't have the time or budget to show more, but it's implied that humanity is still putting up a decent fight offscreen.
OP. I don't know if anyone has ever told you this. But...you're moronic.
I think the idea of guys-with guns beating the hyped up hyper supernatural threat is entertaining to some people because they very clearly aren't going to win, they're generic grunts in a story about heroes.
The clone centric episodes in clone wars were pretty nice because of this, they showed you a bunch of grunts who would later become heroic instead of a bunch of established untouchable heroes
art is revolutionary, we must remove all the fascist boot lickers in the art industry. Animation too.
You monster, without the boot lickers, how will the fascists keep their boots so ridiculously clean and shiny?!
Because you have to show Empire in a positive light or the DoD won't give you anymore money.
Why do Sashanne and Sprivy shippers b***h so much for? Didn't they win, like there was a competition or something
I fricking hate that part of the episode.
The robots were so pathetic and weak! Why the hell did tanks, planes, and general weapon couldn't damage them? Why the frick did they make it look like "there is nothing trained militars can do against a threat like this"
Wasn't there some French CGI movie that had a evil tiny villain with mosquito riders planned to grow big to take over the world but when he did he instantly got killed by the national guard.
Arthur and the invisibles
Anons were clowning on that fricker yesterday and now you're here spouting the same moronic bs drivel.
I know, eleutheromaniacs never learn.
>I know, eleuth-
Stop using this word. You don't know what it means and are more annoying than the moron who argued that USA nuking itself is a great idea.
>You don't know what it means
I use it specifically because I know what it means.
>USA nuking itself
Rebel. Occupied. Territory. Is. No. Longer. Part. Of. The. State.
There is a 100% chance that's the same moron.
Yeah, the post above confirmed that. Not surprising.
>refuses to address the argument, because he can't find fault in it
An accident is completely different.
>USA nuking itself
it almost did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_Goldsboro_B-52_crash
>it almost did.
Well, that was an accident. homosexual above argued that USA can purposely nuke a city full of rebels and won't suffer any negative consequences from that move.
They won't, because the move would easily shut the rebels up.
>be USA
>nuke a city full of rebels
>nuked city is on US soil
>no negative consequences
Radioactive fallout for one...
>US soil
I'm not going to repeat myself again.
>Radioactive fallout
Well, got me there, it's not like anyone has ever had to deal with that before, especially not since August of 1945...
>loss of a populated city with infrastructure for the foreseeable future thanks to the fallout
>more rebels rise up in hundreds other cities as a result of outrage
>chunk of the military and police joins the rebellion because what the frick is the government doing
>other countries shit on USA in the process
>USA's rivals start sponsoring rebels because they see that the country is falling apart in real time
>no consequences
Hopeless. You should take the advice of this anon.
>loss of a populated city
-A- city, if you're fast enough.
>more rebels rise up
Most people aren't big into suicide cults.
>chunk of the military and police
Get executed for not showing up on schedule, just to be safe.
>USA's rivals
Get missiles, too.
Congrats, you just killed USA by encouraging everyone to nuke it back. Idiot.
>what are bunkers?
I bet those people sitting in bunkers will have tons of success (and fun) running the barren radioactive wasteland once they crawl out.
>what is the 7/10 rule?
completely useless
Then all those "glowies" you hate so much wouldn't have them.
Yeah 99% of most civilians don't have them either. So you think a bunch of Rich Fricks are going to survive in the post nuclear wasteland?
>people who planned ahead enough to survive the war would NEVER plan ahead enough to survive the aftermath!
Eleutheromaniac cope.
Too bad the us shut down a large majority of those in the late '80s.
Not the ones owned by the government, for their exclusive use.