Minorities of?

Minorities of Cinemaphile, does representation mean anything to you in Cinemaphile media or do you not care either which way? Does it ever feel pandering or condescending to you?

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    hell no and when I am represented it's usually by homosexuals that'd go to hell

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Go back.

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care, but thats mainly because I prefer non-humans and find humans boring.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ever since the representation push Star Wars has a lot less alien characters because only humans count as representation. This is ironic because what makes the Empire fascist is that they discriminate against non-humans.

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I call my dick "Norities." Guess what I do when I beat my dick....

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I guess nobody found my joke funny

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I smiled at it, anon

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I had to read it twice. Its kinda funny. Good job anon.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's funny when redditors migrate here and can't cope with the fact there's no updoot system giving them visual feedback on who saw their posts
        I'm reminded of this
        https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/135795704/#135799492

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's right! But I'm not a redditor.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Apu stop fricking the thanksgiving turkey

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous
        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          hey dont be so hard on the newcomers. www.Cinemaphile.org embraces all ethnicities, races, nationalities and religions. Even the ugly ones

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's neat to have a character of your race that's actually cool and well written. Sloppy seconds and pandering might as well be a slap to the face. Not entirely necessary, but it adds variety.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    pretty sure in Cinemaphile... I'm not a minority

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I feel like half of this board is LGBT in some way
      Cinemaphile is weirdly gay and brown for how homophobic/racist it is. The site is like 1/3 women too

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The site is like 1/3 women too
        Trannies don't count.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Minorities of Cinemaphile, does representation mean anything to you in Cinemaphile media
          It means the product is USUALLY SHIT.

          >or do you not care either which way?
          a BAD product is just a bad product. not the end of the world.

          >Does it ever feel pandering or condescending to you?
          All the fricking time. It's constantly the exact same urbanite clique doing the exact same BORING fricking shit. But Hollywood and big media isn't known for creativity anyways so what?

          Appreciate good shit. Pass or laugh at the bad shit.

          Come on. The hot ones should count at least 15 percent woman.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fricking vtubers poisened the thread supply

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        cuz theres like 3 websites left honestly.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Is reddit truely dead?

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I haven't felt represented since World Peace ended.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like variety. I don't want to be represented I just want something new. I'd love to see stories that take place outside of America for once. Or fricking hell, just outside of LA or New York.

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    As a hillbilly, 90% of representation of my culture is condescending shitpost and 10% is heartfelt appreciation of lower middle class Americana. The good earns a special place in your heart, and the bad is quickly forgotten because you've been inoculated against "inbred moron hick" jokes since the day you learned the language.

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like characters I can identify with, I think everyone does, no matter how some people claim they don't. In fact the people claimingyou shouldn't care about representation are usually the same people who are already overrepresented and start screeching about being "replaced" when something exists that doesn't put them front and center.

    The real problem isn't that representation is bad, it's that too many writers think being a certain race (or gender, or sexuality, or whatever you're trying to appeal to) represented automatically makes them more relatable. As an individual, I'd sooner identify with a fricking space alien who happens to have some similarities to me other than the purely superficial than with someone who looks exactly like me but is completely uninteresting, or worse, completely insufferable. Representation is fine, but if having the right skin color is the only thing that's meant to make your characters relatably you've already failed at representing me.

    And let's not even go into those morons who think adding some one-dimensional stereotypes is "representation."

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't really care. I'm not American so I didn't grow up with any special sense of Identity associated with my skin or anything. When I watched JL as a kid I never felt any more conected to John than any other character, and I really didn't like Static Shock.

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The core hypocrisy of diversity campaigns all wanting the same sorts of stories is a plague on the industry. There's a reason shonen, seinen, and even maybe some shojou resonates with so many minorities, and none of those reasons are the ones that comics or cartoons seem to get. Representation of different stories trumps representation of skin color any day of the week, and if there was a push towards more diverse comics and cartoons in that way, I think everyone would be happier.

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mixed white/brown - I would have liked as a child to see more main characters (not unimportant token minority side characters) that looked like me, but since around my teens race has been pretty much irrelevant to me in terms of my enjoyment of a character. It's nice to see greater opportunities for non white talents on an industry level but it doesn't make me like individual works more if they have more diversity or or feel alienated from media that has only white characters.
    I find talk around representation pretty patronising outside of media aimed at kids. I especially dislike how representation characters, especially when they're female, are often not allowed to be human and flawed because they're often viewed as a reflection of a demographic group rather than their own person.

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Latino here, we are all muts where I come from and whoever tells you otherwise is full so shit so representation isnt something so important to me as it could be for a burger Black person.
    In and of itself representation means jackshit to me, I will give anything Cinemaphile related a go if it looks good and/or potentially entertaining.

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Please never get your opinions on sweeping groups of people from social media posts. Why do people let some moronic woke c**t on twitter convince them to hate completely unrelated people who involuntarily share the same skin color or sex? This is social media tunnel vision and barely different from the braindead tards who starve themselves or do other dumb shit because posts on the internet made them think it's the rational thing to do.

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I absolutely do not care, and I didnt care as a child either except that maybe I couldn't do crazy anime hair styles with hair gel lol. People that genuinely care that the fictional characters in a story look like them have some sort of mental health issue

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, I'm a Hispanic and I've never cared for characters that look like me, and to be honest with you I don't mind what color they are, as long as it's a good show/film. Also, I like hearing other people's stories better.

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    East african and middle eastern mudslime here, whenever we appear in western media its 90% le terrorist pirates, and now theyre trying to "represent" us by depicting all muzzies as gay leftists. So in a way, representation is worse

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Did you get offended by the original take of the mandarin in the MCU?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Isnt he hong kong chinese? What does that have to do with my part of the planet

        >Sámi representation
        >ever happening
        Not that I care.

        There was that 2d movie that looked like 3d called Klaus (i think) which had reindeer people in it and even their language spoken. Also are you actually Sami? Gotta double check

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          The original mandarin in iron man 3 that was later shown to be a fake was like a middle eastern dude

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I looked him up, his name is Trevor Slattery and hes apparently british.

            Are you the captain now?

            Cinemaphile is the last ship I would want to commandeer

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are you the captain now?

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Sámi representation
    >ever happening
    Not that I care.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You didn't feel represented by Frozen 2?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      there was some in HTTYD2, that one guy who got his own dragon is a sami. it's better than frozen 2 anyway.

      I have autism too and the characters i relate too the most and i feel have autistic traits like my own arent even canonically autistic and would be considered by most offensive depictions if autistic if they were canon autists i think
      >That shit is genuinely offending to watch because it doesn't even feel like representation, they protrayed autism so bad it feels like a mockery of it. Except entrapta she genuinely feels like someone who has autism who also canonically has it
      Took the words out of my mouth it feels so faux and condescending to me as someone with the tism its not even funny

      not a minority but I've been dianosed with autism since I was a kid and seen plenty of cartoons trying to shoehorn autistic characters in. At best I don't care, as long as that character doesn't ruin the show, representation doesn't matter to me because I just wanna watch cartoons for gosh sake. At worst the representation is bad. I.e. the good doctor. That shit is genuinely offending to watch because it doesn't even feel like representation, they protrayed autism so bad it feels like a mockery of it

      did it ever occur to you that autism is a spectrum? maybe you are female level1 and do not have issues with meltdowns, low empathy and genuinely offending people, but pretending these are not actual symptoms of autism is dishonest.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >with meltdowns, low empathy and genuinely offending people,
        Ive had those issues literally all of my life, thats why i relate to characters like ren or dan from dan vs or zim more so then whatever sugarcoated sanitized depection of autism that is usually in shows such as the chinese neighbor from the ghost and molly mcgee. I fricking hate people half the time because i try to make connections with them and i accidentally offend them or accidentally do something stupid and then sperg out and get mad or just go away and sob later. I hate my life

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Post reindeer

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Representation in American media just comes across as White creators with a White Savior complex boosting their egos.

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Representation doesn't mean much when all the characters act the same, hold the same opinions and come from the same background like most shows do it. Doesnt matter how much they look like they me if they act completely different

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I do like diversity, but I don't care about representation. I don't think fiction should feel the need to represent anybody, it's fricking fictional. I wish more people would take the Watanabe approach to diversity, where he doesn't do it to pander but because he simply likes the variety.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically Japanese writers got that shit down pat. They just think its natural to see other races if they move their story outside Japan, and even then you'll see your odd English teacher, tourist, etc.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      What anime?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Macross Plus

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Minorities
    >looks up global demographics
    Well, how about that.

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    As a gay person I don’t care much. Put in some amount of attractive boys and I’m happy, but most shows do that anyway. You can write them straight or gay it doesn’t matter. When I want I can find sexy fan content to fill that niche.
    I don’t like clear, over the top, lgbtbbqwtf++- content. No need for that, doesn’t make stories better. If you want some gays great, but they should really be just like everyone else.

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I only hate it when the only black guy is a gay or worse a troony. Other than that I don't care. I do enjoy the seethe race swaps cause though. That and when people mald about historical accuracy when a black guy shows up in any time period before 1900

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >That and when people mald about historical accuracy when a black guy shows up in any time period before 1900
      Outside of /misc/ not a lot of people do that. People dont mald when you have Mandinka the southron trader show up in Poopenburg, but they do mald when you make the vikings have a black queen. Heres an example: ASOIAFs new prequel show, House of the Dragon features the Velaryon family chracters prominently. In the books they are white, since the franchise is based on medieval europe. In the show, they are black because according to the showrunner "too many white people". The problem with this is that the franchise already has black people, tons of them in fact, though they are usually secondary characters. The second problem is that these characters are black with no explanation. Originally people thought that the Velaryons were black because their whole thing is that they are seafaring adventurers and one of their ancestors married a black woman or something, but the showrunners instead said "they were always black". which is especially dumb because the Velaryons are descended from a civilization of insane blood purist nazis who are universally depicted as blonde and white

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        i guess i'm minority in a few areas. it's nice knowing a person like me could exist in fictional universes i like, so i think it does mean something to me.
        though usually a character like me exactly sexuality wise only pops up when the author is trying for a lgbtqubbq combo platter, and i cannot stand those 'gotta catch em all' things. so most characters i like tend to be straight.

        anon you are huffing crayons if you think any black actor in a thing pre 1900 doesn't get shit tones of hate mail from all kind of people

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care but find non stereotypical characters like Clyde from Loud House endearing.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >liking clyde
      What the hell is wrong with you

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Clyde is the most annoying character in the show

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    i'm not in touch with my cultural heritage much so it wouldn't mean as much to me. representation is nice though

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Diversity is more than just skin color and gender identity and if you drone the same manic pixie twenty-something paired with shy, gifted wish fulfillment twenty-something I'm going to tune out real quick.

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate when they take an established character and change their skin color.
    Make more new heroes and new villains with different skin colors.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      But anon that new character doesnt have a built in story and fanbase to junp off of despite the fact the raceswapped version of said old character acts essentially like a different person

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't really care, if I did I wouldn't watch so much anime and read so much manga.

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do I put it, if I wanted to see a darkie I would just look into a mirror.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Blacks really hate themselves huh

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just the ones on Cinemaphile.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          And also 95% of black women.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          And also 95% of black women.

          Also all of them who hates their own culture so much they'd rather claim anyone else's instead.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well I mean there is that notorious black incel on /b/ who spams BBC stuff everywhere with his discord troon pals.

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Minority in what sense? I'm not a minority in my own country, but I am globally.

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    not a minority but I've been dianosed with autism since I was a kid and seen plenty of cartoons trying to shoehorn autistic characters in. At best I don't care, as long as that character doesn't ruin the show, representation doesn't matter to me because I just wanna watch cartoons for gosh sake. At worst the representation is bad. I.e. the good doctor. That shit is genuinely offending to watch because it doesn't even feel like representation, they protrayed autism so bad it feels like a mockery of it

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have autism too and the characters i relate too the most and i feel have autistic traits like my own arent even canonically autistic and would be considered by most offensive depictions if autistic if they were canon autists i think
      >That shit is genuinely offending to watch because it doesn't even feel like representation, they protrayed autism so bad it feels like a mockery of it. Except entrapta she genuinely feels like someone who has autism who also canonically has it
      Took the words out of my mouth it feels so faux and condescending to me as someone with the tism its not even funny

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I have autism too and the characters i relate too the most and i feel have autistic traits like my own arent even canonically autistic and would be considered by most offensive depictions if autistic if they were canon autists i think
        same lol

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >At worst the representation is bad

      How do you feel about Abed from Community? I felt he was an accurate representation except at the end when he gets a writing career in Hollywood when in reality most autistic end up getting an office clerk job at best

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not the guy you were replying too but as an autist i always wanted to work on cartoons but depression got in the way of me going to college and i doubt ill ever get to work on cartoons

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I always thought going to college for a non lucrative career or trade will just end up in failure. Animation and drawing can be self taught. As Tarantino said, he went to films not film school. Same goes with animation. Best bet is to not quit your day job and just use life experience to fuel your creativity. Or let your depression fuel it if it's that debilitating. And be honest if your art is crap, the least we need is another Chris Chan.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think i draw goofy drawings but they arent necessarily realistic but i still like them but i know what youre saying i gotta work on my art more

  33. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I personally hate it because it's done by disemgenuis people looking for ways to toot their own horn. You can't demand a color blind society then demand special treatment. You can only have one and I prefer the former

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its such whiplash to me to grow up with "dont see color everyones equal" to "you need to see color for context" its fricking jarring

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Sesame Street bit with "The color of our skin is what makes us special" is so bizarre to me, because it sounds like something a eugenics advocator would say.
        It feels like I randomly woke up in parallel universe one day.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          What the frick happened so suddenly to change the narrative all of a sudden? Like during the 90s and the 2000s it was "everyones equal look beyond skin color" to "dont be racist see skin color". What the actual frick happened and why?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I wish I knew man, I really do.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Same answer as to why there's autistic pandering. Western (Anglosphere) culture tends to look out for the underdog. It's existed as early as the 1700s with abolitionism in the UK. We even see it with care for the mentally compromised, Down's Syndrome was named after an advocate for those people and that was way back in the 19th century. It's a feature, not a bug, of Western culture.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              But even in the 90s they were saying "racism bad" but to see beyond skin color, but now its "racism bad" but you have to take skin color in effect now. What the hell happened and why the sudden change?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                It wasn't an overnight change. It's been evolving since the 50s. It just hastened after George Floyd.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Okay but why did being not rackst used to mean to not see color but now to be not racist you have to take someones skin pigment into account? I dont get it someone plz explain

                I like it. Even as a brown kid growing up loving Star Wars I felt the overwhelming white majority was weird. I didn't have the internet or much communication with anyone outside my town when I was a kid in the 90s, so I didn't have much of a perspective of the genre or industry. I even wanted to be that representation when I self inserted with fan characters. It's not super important, obviously I liked it without representation, it's just fun for me. It just adds to it.

                >Does it ever feel pandering or condescending to you?
                This is a moronic question. This is some "I'm feeling offended for you" bullshit but the purpose is to push out opportunities for minorities in the genre or series.

                Im white so maybe i dont get this but the aliens and droids in star wars were always my favorite in fact thats what i liked in most media were the monsters and non human characters. I do get why representation is important for some people tho

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                They're not saying pay attention to everybody's melanin count, they're saying be aware, or woke, to injustice against people of certain pigmentation.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Sesame Street bit with "The color of our skin is what makes us special" is so bizarre to me, because it sounds like something a eugenics advocator would say.
        It feels like I randomly woke up in parallel universe one day.

        Because no one was really saying "don't see color". It was always an empty platitude, a claim people would make. "I don't see color" is a claim that is unfalsifiable. It tried to play off the MLK dream speech but ignores the rest of what MLK says, even when he revisited the speech. You can't not see race, it's impossible and if you're going to recognize and correct any disparity you'd need to factor skin color in.

        Also "everyone is equal" doesn't contradict "see color" in that you can have different skin color but still be equal. It's not hard.

        What the frick happened so suddenly to change the narrative all of a sudden? Like during the 90s and the 2000s it was "everyones equal look beyond skin color" to "dont be racist see skin color". What the actual frick happened and why?

        It wasn't an overnight change. It's been evolving since the 50s. It just hastened after George Floyd.

        Floyd's death was just three years ago. People want to center that as a big change because they're moronic. There were gradual things that happened, like Obama's presidency which launched in Trump's presidency. Unite the Right and other far right types got more traction. Even neoreactionaries looking to return to white monarchy because democracy led us to a black president came up. The race conversation also becomes more relevant as whites are projected to become a minority.

        Ultimately though, BLM and racial virtue signally and controversy like CRT are favorable conversations for big corporations to have because no matter how they turn out, you aren't going to talk about regulating them or taxing them. These conversations ultimately protect profit because they are hijacked by bad actors. They'd rather put your personhood on a ballot than touch their lobby money and ability to lobby.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The race conversation also becomes more relevant as whites are projected to become a minority.
          Why does this bother people? Im the exact type of disenfranchised crazed loner stereotype that most would think is some white nationalist but i always hated most other white people especially whites who were proud of their race. Honestly i hate humanity as a whole and i dont think anyone should be proud of their race or being human in general

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because they can be convinced that it is on purpose and they want a reason to advocate for cultural and racial hegemony. There's a level of comfort that ethnic homogeny through the powerful in a system provides and they don't want to lose that.

            The right is actually getting more forward with advocating for holding their majority because it's what they call a "high trust society". It's concept that if you were consistent with it, you would say non-whites who do bad things do bad things because they live in a "low trust society" as far as their standards of trust goes.

            But mainly it's the same tired "how come there are Chinese and black countries but no white countries" while whites demand to keep North America while holding anyone with one drop of non-white blood is non-white. They rig their own game in such a way that they need to be racist or the white race ends.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              > while holding anyone with one drop of non-white blood is non-white. They rig their own game in such a way that they need to be racist or the white race ends.
              Wont that just backfire since most of these "whites" are mutts anyways?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Germans used to not count as white so it never really mattered. It's just an issue of light skinned homies thinking they need an ethnostate.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It's just an issue of light skinned homies thinking they need an ethnostate.
                Reminds me of pic related

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Honestly i hate humanity as a whole
            Honestly, when you say shit like this it kind of destroys your argument.
            Too many white people are crazy like this and it makes a lot of their movements look like shit for self-hating basketcases, and I say that as someone who's not even white.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Pic related, people dont like me so i hate them back

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Right, but you realize that more enemies is always worse than less enemies, right?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have practically no friends anon, im trying to hate people less but they give me every reason to dislike them or at least feel apathetic towards them since they never want to be my friend

                And yes i am autistic

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Have you tried not saying shit like "I hate humanity?"
                I think there might be some correlation between your outlook towards other people and said people not wanting to be your friend.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Alright fine maybe youre right

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm a Chicano and representation has always been a weird concept to me. I guess I'm suppose to be glad that people share the same skin color with are out making their shows and "sharing their stories", but I cannot relate to any of the stories because they were clearly written by people who were more well off and more established than I will ever be. Even crap like Primos hits different because the creator lived in some suburb while I live in some industrial area.
                Expect for Maybe Generator Rex
                You're speaking to an iCuck. They're as hopeless as they are whiny.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >George Floyd died 3 years ago..

  34. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Inigo montóya makes me feel represented. Puss in boots, not so much. So uh it’s nice but I could take it or leave it. My favorite characters don’t share my nationality. And if I have to hear another Cervantes reference I rather just leave it

  35. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >does representation mean anything to you in Cinemaphile media
    Yeah. I like to think it doesn't but I can't help but feel fuzzy inside when I see it. I always think about how it would have made me feel as a kid to see normal happy LGBT content on TV instead of people telling me gays go to Hell. I'm happy that many kids today get to have that.
    It isn't something that I seek out or will make or break a show, but it is nice.
    >Does it ever feel pandering or condescending to you?
    Sometimes. There is definitely a wrong way to do it that ends up making me feel more like an "other" than an ordinary person. The key to making good representation is to not overthink it.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      As is usually the case, the worst take comes from the gay white.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        What do you disagree with?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I can see your point of view.

  36. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are there midgets in Cinemaphile?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      short kings mustve felt very represented with Tyrion Lannister

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Rigby? He's a chad too

  37. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like it. Even as a brown kid growing up loving Star Wars I felt the overwhelming white majority was weird. I didn't have the internet or much communication with anyone outside my town when I was a kid in the 90s, so I didn't have much of a perspective of the genre or industry. I even wanted to be that representation when I self inserted with fan characters. It's not super important, obviously I liked it without representation, it's just fun for me. It just adds to it.

    >Does it ever feel pandering or condescending to you?
    This is a moronic question. This is some "I'm feeling offended for you" bullshit but the purpose is to push out opportunities for minorities in the genre or series.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh shit, a chicano in the wild.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Uh I mean "wypipo bad for putting non-whites in their media because I assume they're calling me stupid when they do that for some reason. Please segregate all media to satisfy my hopeless cynicism and mind reading. - Based Brown Anon"

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh. Huh. Well carry on citizen. Be sure to report any of those elusive chicano's you see

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes sir.

            Sounds like anon struck a nerve.

            No haha I was just being based. When I see a minority in anything I just feel so condescended. Exclude me please!

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              I like it. Even as a brown kid growing up loving Star Wars I felt the overwhelming white majority was weird. I didn't have the internet or much communication with anyone outside my town when I was a kid in the 90s, so I didn't have much of a perspective of the genre or industry. I even wanted to be that representation when I self inserted with fan characters. It's not super important, obviously I liked it without representation, it's just fun for me. It just adds to it.

              >Does it ever feel pandering or condescending to you?
              This is a moronic question. This is some "I'm feeling offended for you" bullshit but the purpose is to push out opportunities for minorities in the genre or series.

              Man, if all chicanos are this whiny I think I understand the Primos shit now.
              Latino anons I was wrong, your hatred of chicanos is entirely justified.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds like anon struck a nerve.

  38. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    All of my childhood Cinemaphile heroes were either white men or weird fantasy creatures, I don't give a shit

  39. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a furgay

  40. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Minorities of Cinemaphile, does representation mean anything to you in Cinemaphile media
    OP, me and my minority group having representation isn't for me or my minority group. It's literally for everyone else. If I never saw gays represented in media than my ignorance would run unchecked as I would only find stuff that would confirm my own beliefs. Representation makes people less of a bigot through exposure. It was scientifically proven.
    >don't ask me to go find it, Google is free.

  41. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wish there were more hot women of my race in comics and cartoons.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >cat person

  42. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    As a Slav I feel deeply insulted our race which is formally recognized as a racial minority is constantly ignored and sidelined.

  43. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's nice to see it, but I expect so little from most Cinemaphile media. If I want to see representation, I'll seek it out from the hundred-plus years of cartoons that exist rather than wait for strangers to give me more of it.

  44. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm black and I think representation sucks and feels incredibly pandering when it's done wrong. I see shit like Craig of the Creek and I roll my eyes because I don't see black people in that show, I see a bunch of upper-class white writers writing what THEY think black life is like as inoffensively as possible. And then the complete inverse is either Fat Albert where black people live in junkyards or ghetto gang-banger shit that glorifies crime and the most obnoxious parts of black culture.

    I don't hate black characters, but I want to see them as people first, not forced diversity race-swaps or vehicles for stereotype humor. I'll know the animation industry has grown up when we see a cool black villain fighting a non-black lead. Or black leads with character flaws unrelated to poverty. Ironically I relate more to shows like SpongeBob, The Simpsons, and Gumball and see more of my family and friends in those characters than in any black character depicted in animation.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      How do you feel about the Boondocks?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think it's pretty funny. It's the closest we'll ever get to a (good) animated representation of something like Friday or a Wayans flick. I think a lot of black artists are really good at lampooning black culture while offering non-preachy social commentary in a way most white artists wouldn't touch. Plus John Witherspoon made that show.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I see shit like Craig of the Creek and I roll my eyes because I don't see black people in that show, I see a bunch of upper-class white writers
      What do you think of Clarence? Im australian and it reminded me of how most poor white australians and even minority australians lived

  45. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Considering how much white guys b***h about there being fewer white guys on shows, I’d guess representation matters to white guys.

  46. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mordecai made a better representation of me than anything produced by the human race

  47. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not really. I mean, it's cool when it's there, like in Rugrats, but I don't exactly miss it when it's not.
    t. israelite

  48. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The mistake people make is assuming audiences in general crave representation when in reality, it's something women are prone to desire. Speaking as a man, I happen to like seeing Hispanic male characters (Dib, Miguel, Jaime) but it's NOT something I want to see in everything and all the time: I care more about whether or not the character's emotional turmoil, personality facets, and desires that I can identify with are present rather than race. Women, on the other hand, care more about whether or not the character IS them (in terms of external factors - age, romance, gender, hobbies) in terms of specific plots (what girl doesn't want a horse BFF or to be saved by a kind and rich hot prince or for an evil villain to go straight for her).

    > boys want to be Batman, girls want Batman to be them

    While I think that representation is important, it just shouldn't be performed in a self-centered or patronizing way. I wouldn't mind more Hispanic characters, sure, but I don't give a shit if the protagonist is black, asian, a woman, gay, short, ugly, or a tard as long as there's aspects of them I can relate to on a psychological/emotional level.

    >Lemongrab
    >K
    >Holden Caulfield
    >Rorschach
    >The Question
    >Anarky
    >Kamen Rider 1
    >Dib
    >Peridot
    >Miguel O'Hara
    >Venom Snake
    >Malcolm
    >Double D
    >Pearl

    literally me

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Lemongrab
      >Rorschach
      Are you okay bro?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >rorschach
      >peridot
      >pearl
      Literally me

  49. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's nice when it happens and much to my surprise my nephew likes Miles Morales so there might be some merit to little kids seeing themselves in their heroes, but I was raised on Ninja Turtles and Sonic the Hedgehog so it was never a necessity or a deal breaker for me.
    Frankly I care far more about my fetishes being pandered to than my race.

  50. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am Asian, no idea if i count as a minority or not but i generally don't really care. Shit is pretty moronic anyway

    >In our world of super powered gods and sparkling spandex, there is a man of eastern origin
    >Here comes Kungfuman, with his signature Kamehameha beam and the power of karate punching shit really hard

    Fricking ugh

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      In b4 Colonial Man.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      We get it, you’re a rootless asian American who doesn’t like their ancestors and the people from those countries don’t like you either and you have no place and a permanent, unfixable inferiority complex about it.

  51. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    neutral

  52. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s even more insulting to have an overly-competent and inoffensive character representing you. Fricking coddling and bland. Easily forgotten

  53. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. I am incapable of doing anything, improving myself or seeking higher knowledge unless there is a superhero with the same skin pigmentation as me in American comic movies

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's funny how this weird line of thinking is common in conservative circles. Any attempt to make voting easier in urban areas is met with "do you think that blacks are too dumb to vote without your help?" No one is honestly consistent with this logic, it's a criticism reserved for anything that has to do with minorities.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        How is this weird? People all around the world for millions of years, all races were able to do stuff to advance themselves and their people. Now all of a sudden starting this generation a person can't do this unless they see a superhero in an American movie with their skin pigmentation. I have no issue with non white characters but people who act like its needed otherwise their children can't succeed because they have no one to look up to, a role the parents should be filling, are full of shit.

  54. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have yet to be represented in media outside of very niche mentions to my country since it's so small and weird.

  55. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    kyle rayner is one of my heroes and idc if that's cringe, as a American Chicano it's awesome that he's brown but doesn't make it apart of his identity like doing stupid shit where he speaks spanish and then english in the same sentence, i mean maybe he has but he doesn't do it all the time, he's also either the strongest green lantern or second strongest and he has legacy too, he's been around for a good while plus his mask and outfit are kino asf

  56. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    None of the Cinemaphile heroes I looked up to were black.
    I don't care about representation. I just want well written and enjoyable characters. Most representation attempts frequently make said representation their main (or worse, only) characters trait. "This is the black guy. His personality is black guy. This is the gay guy. His personality is gay guy." It's really tiresome. I'd happily take a cartoon or comic of people of one singular race if it at least meant they were fun or interesting characters.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Most representation attempts frequently make said representation their main (or worse, only) characters trait.
      Shut the frick up, Black person. Years of people making this shallow gripe and it's always based on vibes about shows you don't watch and things you don't read.

      >It's really tiresome.
      Shoreleave is universally loved and he most accurately fits this description.

      >hurr I just want well written things
      You are a waste of time. Good job getting this much out of me.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Years of people making this shallow gripe and it's always based on vibes about shows you don't watch and things you don't read.
        Finally someone says it. Whenever this criticism is made nine times of ten the actual show makes no allusion to their race or sexuality at all and the assumption was only made because of some knockoff Buzzfeed article headlines

  57. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I used to consider it pandering.

    Now that I see what type of scum are enraged by my people existing as a matter of principle, I say keep it up.

  58. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't know, I almost exclusively consume Asian media and they rarely have black characters.
    I care more about interesting and likeable characters than I do about having characters with the same skin tone as me.
    Then again, I'm not American, so maybe that's the difference.

  59. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This comic is really dumb. "Vocally advocate for representation" isn't a real topic, it's one a journo may ask about and get a headline around. Any other question asked to this creator, one that doesn't lead from the assumption that creatives vocally advocating for representation isn't a thing happening common enough to warrant comment or note, would lead to this exchange producing a headline that would make it seem that he advocates for representation. Also it's a non-statement and doesn't answer what's being asked. Characters always represent themselves. He just avoided the question with the assumption that his characters representing themselves is something that only happens "sometimes". And it isn't even a question being asked in this thread. It creates a soft question and he props himself up based on his answer as if what he does is a special kind of representation.

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