Which is astonishing. It sums up everything I hate about the MCU and most blockbuster movies in general these days. Marvel consistently made astronomical amounts of money for over a decade. Only recently have they begun to see diminishing returns. They were on top of the world and could easily afford anything, but they went with cheap and shitty looking costumes and bland, flat cinematography because they knew people would turn up either way.
Honestly, how much does it cost to make a good looking costume? For independent filmmakers shooting movies for less than 10 million dollars? A lot. For a cosplayer at Comic Con? A lot. For the most successful film studio in recent memory? Literally nothing. The difference in cost between a cheap looking costume and a good looking costume is completely immaterial for a corporation the size of Disney Marvel. But they went cheap and bland every single time. They had the ability to do better, but they chose not to because they knew it didn't matter. It's so fricking lazy. It's the antithesis of art.
Also, I'm not saying that blockbuster cinema has ever really been an artistically driven medium as opposed to a financially driven one, and the MCU is a bunch of popcorn flicks for children, but even toy-driven popcorn flicks of the past you can usually find SOMETHING artistic. Star Wars is not high art, but the John Williams score is genuinely amazing and the costume and creature designs were crafted by people who clearly gave a shit about what they were doing. Mad Max: Fury Road isn't some kind of arthouse movie, but the camera work and color grading and overall design elements were all extremely well crafted. Batman v Superman is a huge embarrassing piece of shit, but the music was great and stuck with me for weeks after seeing the movie.
Even disposable summer blockbuster shit has SOMETHING that approaches artistic merit. There's usually somebody who is really striving to do their best work. But the MCU has nothing. The acting isn't anything to write home about, the scores are unmemorable, the camerawork and lighting is flat and boring, the costumes look like they're from party city. I honestly don't fricking understand how they always seem to go out of their way to make the movies so uninspired.
>Star Wars is not high art
I agree with the things you're saying, but I think there's also something to be said about this comment. There is a certain artistry even in the creation of a low brow blockbuster popcorn movie. In a sense, a movie like Star Wars can be considered high art. Setting aside the artistic merit of the individual components of a film like the score or camera work, a popcorn film can be better or worse than another and subsequently there is a higher tier of popcorn films. Like if you compare the plot of Star Wars and the plot of whatever marvelslop is being released today, you might say they are at the same degree of simplicity (as they must be to be popcorn blockbuster lowest-common-denominator films) and yet the plot of Star Wars is leagues ahead, wouldn't you say?
Even if you're making a flick with particular requirements due to financial incentives, you can make a good flick or you can make a mediocre one (or a shit one of course). It's kind of odd that they've made so many of these movies and yet none are actually good, with the best ones only looking good when compared to the rest of the "cinematic" universe.
Also I used "plot" as an example to make a point about Star Wars, but that too is singling out one element which isn't really what I meant. In the context of being able to judge the artistic merit of a film in its entirety as a film despite actually being composed of many individual artforms, there is a certain artistic value to a "low brow" film as a "low brow film" film, and some "low brow" films are better than others despite objectively meeting the same requirements to be in the same category. Like the "soul vs soulless" meme.
You'd think Marvel of all people would understand the importance of a good costume too. It's a major part of the whole superhero appeal but for them they put in the bare minimum. Everything about these movies look so cheap.
No. Netflix's Daredevil was kino. I don't have high hopes for this even though they're bringing back the original cast and bringing in the showrunner of The Punisher
Even Netflix series realized DD costume
is ass. They kept him out of it for almost all of season 1. Costume at end was so bad redid it for season 2. Season 3 they kept him out of it for most the season. This is worse one so far. Looks like Spirit Halloween bullshit. Yet budget for show he like 100 million. Not Money laundering my ass
Looks like they’re trying to ape Pattinson’s Batman suit but it’s like the Walmart version of it. Seriously, costume designers at Disney are horrific. I don’t know cost cutting thing but costumes are awful.
When I see shit like this I think >The actors and people on set have to know, right? They aren't somehow blind to how bad it looks, right?
and that makes me wonder how they cope with that. Do they say that it looks like shit and try to make the best of it (but then why not get a better costume)? Do they think they are the only ones who think it's shit and say nothing? Is it at thing where it's obvious that everyone is kinda aware how shit it is but there is just a common understanding of "oh well, what can you do"? Because even if the crew is in "just get this slop over with" mode, the actors kinda depend on at the very least not looking like shit in the stuff they are in, so they would care, right?
Motion tracking marks. Probably going to be putting wounds on him in post.
>new show is such a rush job they can't even bothered to make a second version of the suit thats slightly damaged and rather rely on pajeet CGI mill to fix it later.
[...] >new show is such a rush job they can't even bothered to make a second version of the suit thats slightly damaged and rather rely on pajeet CGI mill to fix it later.
I honestly think they're both pretty meh suits. It helps he's a nighttime vigilante, so you rarely see his suit in full light. The Netflix daredevil era was probably my favorite marvel slop I've seen since the early Rami Spider-Man days. It actually has a decent amount of soul, considering the endless souless woke shit we get now. I have no hope now that Disney+ is taking over, and they're also reshooting a shitload of it while re-adding Karen. Doesn't seem like a good sign. Love to see Its gritty sex scenes and drug use come back.
no, but I do miss netflix era DD
They were both good. I can't blame Charlie for keeping himself employed, I just hope it's not as terrible as I expect it to be.
That costume looks worse than before
Cheap and bad looking is Feige's signature.
Which is astonishing. It sums up everything I hate about the MCU and most blockbuster movies in general these days. Marvel consistently made astronomical amounts of money for over a decade. Only recently have they begun to see diminishing returns. They were on top of the world and could easily afford anything, but they went with cheap and shitty looking costumes and bland, flat cinematography because they knew people would turn up either way.
Honestly, how much does it cost to make a good looking costume? For independent filmmakers shooting movies for less than 10 million dollars? A lot. For a cosplayer at Comic Con? A lot. For the most successful film studio in recent memory? Literally nothing. The difference in cost between a cheap looking costume and a good looking costume is completely immaterial for a corporation the size of Disney Marvel. But they went cheap and bland every single time. They had the ability to do better, but they chose not to because they knew it didn't matter. It's so fricking lazy. It's the antithesis of art.
Also, I'm not saying that blockbuster cinema has ever really been an artistically driven medium as opposed to a financially driven one, and the MCU is a bunch of popcorn flicks for children, but even toy-driven popcorn flicks of the past you can usually find SOMETHING artistic. Star Wars is not high art, but the John Williams score is genuinely amazing and the costume and creature designs were crafted by people who clearly gave a shit about what they were doing. Mad Max: Fury Road isn't some kind of arthouse movie, but the camera work and color grading and overall design elements were all extremely well crafted. Batman v Superman is a huge embarrassing piece of shit, but the music was great and stuck with me for weeks after seeing the movie.
Even disposable summer blockbuster shit has SOMETHING that approaches artistic merit. There's usually somebody who is really striving to do their best work. But the MCU has nothing. The acting isn't anything to write home about, the scores are unmemorable, the camerawork and lighting is flat and boring, the costumes look like they're from party city. I honestly don't fricking understand how they always seem to go out of their way to make the movies so uninspired.
>Star Wars is not high art
I agree with the things you're saying, but I think there's also something to be said about this comment. There is a certain artistry even in the creation of a low brow blockbuster popcorn movie. In a sense, a movie like Star Wars can be considered high art. Setting aside the artistic merit of the individual components of a film like the score or camera work, a popcorn film can be better or worse than another and subsequently there is a higher tier of popcorn films. Like if you compare the plot of Star Wars and the plot of whatever marvelslop is being released today, you might say they are at the same degree of simplicity (as they must be to be popcorn blockbuster lowest-common-denominator films) and yet the plot of Star Wars is leagues ahead, wouldn't you say?
Even if you're making a flick with particular requirements due to financial incentives, you can make a good flick or you can make a mediocre one (or a shit one of course). It's kind of odd that they've made so many of these movies and yet none are actually good, with the best ones only looking good when compared to the rest of the "cinematic" universe.
Also I used "plot" as an example to make a point about Star Wars, but that too is singling out one element which isn't really what I meant. In the context of being able to judge the artistic merit of a film in its entirety as a film despite actually being composed of many individual artforms, there is a certain artistic value to a "low brow" film as a "low brow film" film, and some "low brow" films are better than others despite objectively meeting the same requirements to be in the same category. Like the "soul vs soulless" meme.
You'd think Marvel of all people would understand the importance of a good costume too. It's a major part of the whole superhero appeal but for them they put in the bare minimum. Everything about these movies look so cheap.
Pathetic awfull costume
We really are in 2024?
Netflix costume also are pretty lame
They're gonna pay some Indian kid $40 to cgi over it.
No. Netflix's Daredevil was kino. I don't have high hopes for this even though they're bringing back the original cast and bringing in the showrunner of The Punisher
echo has made me doubt disney can do anything.
Even Netflix series realized DD costume
is ass. They kept him out of it for almost all of season 1. Costume at end was so bad redid it for season 2. Season 3 they kept him out of it for most the season. This is worse one so far. Looks like Spirit Halloween bullshit. Yet budget for show he like 100 million. Not Money laundering my ass
>seams
>but cloth doesn't crease there
seams that are obviously just-for-show are stupid shit.
Looks like they’re trying to ape Pattinson’s Batman suit but it’s like the Walmart version of it. Seriously, costume designers at Disney are horrific. I don’t know cost cutting thing but costumes are awful.
Lmao you should see what they did to Bullseye
WTF!
which Counter strike model is this?
>when they rush b
When I see shit like this I think
>The actors and people on set have to know, right? They aren't somehow blind to how bad it looks, right?
and that makes me wonder how they cope with that. Do they say that it looks like shit and try to make the best of it (but then why not get a better costume)? Do they think they are the only ones who think it's shit and say nothing? Is it at thing where it's obvious that everyone is kinda aware how shit it is but there is just a common understanding of "oh well, what can you do"? Because even if the crew is in "just get this slop over with" mode, the actors kinda depend on at the very least not looking like shit in the stuff they are in, so they would care, right?
Yes. But if it were up to me Ben would direct a rated R Daredevil movie starring Charlie Cox .
whats with all the weird stickers?
CGI markers
>new show is such a rush job they can't even bothered to make a second version of the suit thats slightly damaged and rather rely on pajeet CGI mill to fix it later.
show is fricked
Motion tracking marks. Probably going to be putting wounds on him in post.
They are crosses to show he is catholic
why the frick didnt they keep the suit from she-hulk?
Mustard and ketchup, dangerous combination
They bought this and painted it red
The Flash already did that
the old suit was so much better its not even close, did they do this out of spite or are they actually just that shit?
The old suit wasn't great but at least they got the colors right
I didn't miss Ben affleck that's what no one else did
Are they ever gonna remember Daredevil is half a Spider-Man with his cane baton whip.
>miss Ben Affleck yet?
Frick no, that talentless hack sucks in everything, his tired Fatman was the worst. That said the costume needs work.
You're telling me the DD looks shit under incredibly bright lights and from distance? Like every other capeshit suits?
No
No, never. What the frick is wrong with you?
They'll fix it in post.
I honestly think they're both pretty meh suits. It helps he's a nighttime vigilante, so you rarely see his suit in full light. The Netflix daredevil era was probably my favorite marvel slop I've seen since the early Rami Spider-Man days. It actually has a decent amount of soul, considering the endless souless woke shit we get now. I have no hope now that Disney+ is taking over, and they're also reshooting a shitload of it while re-adding Karen. Doesn't seem like a good sign. Love to see Its gritty sex scenes and drug use come back.
No. Charlie Cox is great as Daredevil. The MCU version will suck because it will be PG-13.
I going out on a limb but I think they plan to tone down the color in post. They do they some times for reasons.
No and I don't watch capeshit