doing a single epilogue episode or something sounds fine but trying to create identical conditions for success for something that was a product of its time is always a terrible fricking idea
Yep, new show would have been unbearable. >Andy gets metoo'd >Posey get molested >Kevin and his friends do a gamergate >Jim make shitcoin >Gus and Wally bust crust >Natalie organizes a "Jews for Palestine" protest >Gwen get top surgery
I'm glad it's dead.
*spits*
Assuming you're Gen Z, it could be an interesting perspective on what your parents 20's were like. If you're a Millenial who somehow missed the show during its many reruns, then its an interesting perspective on adulthood during the dot com boom and pre-9/11.
I'd recommend it either way. It has genuinely funny moments.
Yep, new show would have been unbearable. >Andy gets metoo'd >Posey get molested >Kevin and his friends do a gamergate >Jim make shitcoin >Gus and Wally bust crust >Natalie organizes a "Jews for Palestine" protest >Gwen get top surgery
I'm glad it's dead.
*spits*
There's just so many things about Mission Hill that only works in the 1998-2000 context and zeitgeist that's literally the entire show's vibe. The unrelentingly strong economy, white urban culture pre-mid 2000s thug influence, Jim's entire character being a dotcom bubble joke. Can't replicate any of that in writing of today especially DEI mutt hires. The most pointless endeavor to try possible.
Stop lying about the economy anon. Stop it! Your dangerous lies are going to get Drumpf back in office! Is that what you want?! We built back better and unemployment is at all time lows. We added over 300,000 jobs last month. Average wage increases have outpaced inflation. If you're doing poorly it's because of your own failings.
I understand that but Oakley and Weinstein have still lived through the last 25 years of culture shift like the rest of us. They aren't the same people and wouldn't write the same characters. Every single other reboot/revival EVER is proof of what happens. And of course they wouldn't be writing the show entirely themselves they would have to hire a writer's room and we all see what they're like now.
Just as well. I hate how RLM has people using the phrase "lightning in a bottle" for literally everything, but Mission Hill feels like it could have only existed in that brief window between 1998 and 2001.Leave it as a time capsule for its era.
Andy was a loser though. The show did a pretty good job showing he wasn't a misunderstood genius. He was a slacker in the best period in history to be one.
>Wow you're right New Woman of Color Character, Andy and I really HAVE been looking at Palestine through an ignorant scope of white liberalism that can be likewise be applied to America's own troubled past. You've given us and the viewers a lot to think about. "Vote blue no matter who, but preferably antizionist too?" I like the sound of that. Bling blong!
I always see people in YouTube comments beg for Mission Hill and MTV Downtown continuations and I genuinely think they’re moronic. What they really mean is “I wish this show hadn’t been canceled and got more episodes in the era they were originally airing in”. What do these people think a show that’s essentially a time capsule during a time in America that is so culturally different than today that it may as well be a foreign country would be like with modern sensibilities? Shows today cannot just exist and be a sincere creation with organic stories, there is now a mandate to lecture the audience every 5 minutes and “correct” their past actions. You cannot replicate the atmosphere and feelings of those two cartoons, and any writers they hire are in their 30s and can not relate to the carefree world of the late 90s, nor would they want to remind the audience of how good things used to be. Not to mention the lack of talented visual artists working today, so visually they would look dogshit and likely tweened. Everything good has already been made, just let it be
Thank god for that, reboots need to frick off and die.
Let things stay dead, enjoy what they were, stop trying to dig every corpse up and parade it around again because you're scared of new ideas.
DUDE i just LOVE the hustle and bustle of the big city, it’s so DYNAMIC and makes me feel like i’m in one of my favourite TV SHOWS. you should totally come on down to my studio apartment, it’s got EXPOSED RED BRICK walls and everything, we can crack open a nice hoppy ipa or three and get crazy watching some cartoons on adult swim! and dude, dude, DUDE, we have GOTTA go down to the barcade- listen here, right, it’s a BAR where us ADULTS who do ADULTING can go DRINK. BUT!!!! it’s also an ARCADE like when we were kids, so we can play awesome VIDEO GAMES, without dumb kids bothering us. speaking of which megan and i have finally decided to tie the knot- literally -we’re both getting snipped tomorrow at the hospital, that way we can save money to spent more on ourselves and our FURBABIES. i’m frickin JACKED man, i’m gonna SLAM this craft beer and pop open another one!!!
Fricking good. Reviving a show after 20 years is a fricking terrible idea. Just look at Clone High
doing a single epilogue episode or something sounds fine but trying to create identical conditions for success for something that was a product of its time is always a terrible fricking idea
I think it could work if they just used the season 2 scripts already written, but that likely would not be the case.
Could have worked as a short run comic book series
Definitely
god i hated my twenties watching everyone succeed as you stood in place
Sometimes dead is bettah.
>he wants them to dig up mission hill's corpse and prop it up while they lecture you about how evil you are for liking the original show
Never seen it, would you recommend?
Then you're probably a zoomer who has no connection to how great the country was prior to 9/11 and the show will mean nothing to you.
If you are in your early 20s there's no better time to watch it
It's King of the Hill for Gen X hipsters
Surprisingly it works pretty well
Assuming you're Gen Z, it could be an interesting perspective on what your parents 20's were like. If you're a Millenial who somehow missed the show during its many reruns, then its an interesting perspective on adulthood during the dot com boom and pre-9/11.
I'd recommend it either way. It has genuinely funny moments.
It would be awful. Pozzed zogslop.
Good. It was going to be Gus and Wally focused anyway, which sounded awful.
I think they moved away from that because it was unpopular
>when his older brother cucks him with that asin girl
Everyone who made shows from the early 2000s is a pozzed homosexual now and I doubt Oakley and Weinstein are any different.
Yep, new show would have been unbearable.
>Andy gets metoo'd
>Posey get molested
>Kevin and his friends do a gamergate
>Jim make shitcoin
>Gus and Wally bust crust
>Natalie organizes a "Jews for Palestine" protest
>Gwen get top surgery
I'm glad it's dead.
*spits*
There's just so many things about Mission Hill that only works in the 1998-2000 context and zeitgeist that's literally the entire show's vibe. The unrelentingly strong economy, white urban culture pre-mid 2000s thug influence, Jim's entire character being a dotcom bubble joke. Can't replicate any of that in writing of today especially DEI mutt hires. The most pointless endeavor to try possible.
remember when we were doing so well the problem was over consumption? now we're worried about groceries
Stop lying about the economy anon. Stop it! Your dangerous lies are going to get Drumpf back in office! Is that what you want?! We built back better and unemployment is at all time lows. We added over 300,000 jobs last month. Average wage increases have outpaced inflation. If you're doing poorly it's because of your own failings.
In the latest interview I heard about it, Oakley said it was set 6 months after the first season, so it would have been a "period piece"
I understand that but Oakley and Weinstein have still lived through the last 25 years of culture shift like the rest of us. They aren't the same people and wouldn't write the same characters. Every single other reboot/revival EVER is proof of what happens. And of course they wouldn't be writing the show entirely themselves they would have to hire a writer's room and we all see what they're like now.
Mission Hill cannot work today because it would be annoying in the wrong ways possible.
It wouldn't use cel animation so I wouldn't watch it.
Good
Just as well. I hate how RLM has people using the phrase "lightning in a bottle" for literally everything, but Mission Hill feels like it could have only existed in that brief window between 1998 and 2001.Leave it as a time capsule for its era.
Just have to wait another 5 years or so until it's possible for AI to make more episodes.
People were using the phrase long before two fat drunks and a gay man started up my favorite fren simulator.
They didn't make up the phrase, they did popularize people using it in every circumstance regardless of whether or not it fits
I don't know a single person outside of Cinemaphile who watches that shit
i watched it before there was a Cinemaphile
loved it then, love it now, glad a reboot is dead
I think my favorite episode was where they dealt with the israeli question
I like the one where they show what liberal cities look like
>penis, penis, penis
>the one
You know literally every episode had some aspect about "the seedy side of the city" right...
AND THAT IS THE PART DOMINATED BY THE BLACKS AND DRUGS
>we will never see Kevin go through college and Andy become a big-name cartoonist
Andy was a loser though. The show did a pretty good job showing he wasn't a misunderstood genius. He was a slacker in the best period in history to be one.
yeah, but the end storyline for him was to end up a "Matt Groening type" where he'd sell a show and have a moderately successful career with it.
>you will never be an underemployed late 90s/early2000s slacker
why did I work so hard in my 20s
>Wow you're right New Woman of Color Character, Andy and I really HAVE been looking at Palestine through an ignorant scope of white liberalism that can be likewise be applied to America's own troubled past. You've given us and the viewers a lot to think about. "Vote blue no matter who, but preferably antizionist too?" I like the sound of that. Bling blong!
I always see people in YouTube comments beg for Mission Hill and MTV Downtown continuations and I genuinely think they’re moronic. What they really mean is “I wish this show hadn’t been canceled and got more episodes in the era they were originally airing in”. What do these people think a show that’s essentially a time capsule during a time in America that is so culturally different than today that it may as well be a foreign country would be like with modern sensibilities? Shows today cannot just exist and be a sincere creation with organic stories, there is now a mandate to lecture the audience every 5 minutes and “correct” their past actions. You cannot replicate the atmosphere and feelings of those two cartoons, and any writers they hire are in their 30s and can not relate to the carefree world of the late 90s, nor would they want to remind the audience of how good things used to be. Not to mention the lack of talented visual artists working today, so visually they would look dogshit and likely tweened. Everything good has already been made, just let it be
Man, I miss mission hill. I never hated gays, just homosexuals. Mission hill has shown me the way.
there were homosexuals in it though.
They were gay, not homosexuals.
Thank god for that, reboots need to frick off and die.
Let things stay dead, enjoy what they were, stop trying to dig every corpse up and parade it around again because you're scared of new ideas.
DUDE i just LOVE the hustle and bustle of the big city, it’s so DYNAMIC and makes me feel like i’m in one of my favourite TV SHOWS. you should totally come on down to my studio apartment, it’s got EXPOSED RED BRICK walls and everything, we can crack open a nice hoppy ipa or three and get crazy watching some cartoons on adult swim! and dude, dude, DUDE, we have GOTTA go down to the barcade- listen here, right, it’s a BAR where us ADULTS who do ADULTING can go DRINK. BUT!!!! it’s also an ARCADE like when we were kids, so we can play awesome VIDEO GAMES, without dumb kids bothering us. speaking of which megan and i have finally decided to tie the knot- literally -we’re both getting snipped tomorrow at the hospital, that way we can save money to spent more on ourselves and our FURBABIES. i’m frickin JACKED man, i’m gonna SLAM this craft beer and pop open another one!!!
Everyone in this thread put together couldn't afford Andy's 2 story EXPOSED BRICK warehouse apartment in fricking Boston.
has there even been a good revival so far of any 2000's show?
Of course not. There's no more soul.