Holy fricking cringe. Have modern actors forgotten how to give "le crazy psycho man" performances? There hasn't been a good one in years.
Holy fricking cringe. Have modern actors forgotten how to give "le crazy psycho man" performances? There hasn't been a good one in years.
im a modern actor and i can give a really good "le crazy psycho man" performance but my agent has advised me to wait until anthony hopkins dies so i dont get accused of biting his style. also im a nepo baby so no one cares, not even me
No you're not. Take your meds.
>No you're not.
correct
>Take your meds.
shan't
the people who defend that paul dano riddler are weird.
"Omg, it's supposed to be cringe and embarassing bros. I love it! :3"
I've genuinely experienced people like this throughout highschool and college. I'd say he got their cringe spot on because if you wound them up enough that's how they'd act.
I had some great times winding up these dude's during ICT and Business Studies. A lot of the times they'd go really red in the face end up punching themselves repeatedly, to which the teacher would shout at them lol.
>I've genuinely experienced people like this throughout highschool and college.
What was life in gotham like? Growing up with highschoolers blowing up court houses must've been rough.
genuinely ruined what could have been a decent 8/10 batflick into an unrewatchable trash
Dano's Riddler was the most cringe inducing performance I have seen in a capeshit.
Oh man. Can't wait for the sequel.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAVEEEEEEE MAAAAAAARIIIIIIIAAAAAAAA
i don't get the issue, this is what I imagine an autistic loser to act like.
you guys should talk outside more often.
People who hate him are those autistic losers while normies watching are like "yep I know that guy".
They are mad cause its a mirror, they like ubrealistic "cool psycho" characters tbey self insert as
The problem is that while he's doing this, the music is getting all brooding and dramatic and Batman successfully lets himself lose his cool over this dork. It should be the moment Batman sees just how pathetic he is, but it's the moment he's getting BTFO.
If this movie steered into Riddler and Batman being cringe but somehow super competent, this could've been interesting. But it tries too hard to be taken seriously at the same time that it undercuts itself. It looks sillier as a result.
Batman is also cringe and he cleans up his act in the end realizing he can't just be that brooding butthole dude beating up random thugs, he needs to do something positive and to inspire people, otherwise he's just a less ugly Riddler.
Do you really need to explain that to people? That was his entire arc, it wasn't subtle at all riddler literally said "you complete me" and it made batman realise he's a cringe incel like him.
Real psycho mass murderers are also pathetic dorks. You see, people who enjoy social interactions (you’re excused) have been influenced by real life. We are conditioner to view "le epic psycho" as a larger than life charicature from an older time.
Cringy Cinemaphile autists are the scariest people on the planet to most normies. After a decade of Elliot copycats, we have been conditioned to cringe *and* fear people with those traits.
Try polling any sub-40yr demographic and ask them who they find more frightening - Dano’s Riddler, Ledger’s Joker, Anton Chigurh or Hannibal Lecter.
The latter three come off as cool/larger than life, the first triggers real fears people have.
Rewrote? b***h, obsessing over riddles and showing intellectual superiority over the police IS autism incarnate. There’s no other way to depict such a guy.
As it so happens, autism manifests quite differently in 2020 compared to 1950. An autistic guy back then would be the quiet nerdy accountant at your office.
An autistic guy now is an unwashed groyper on Cinemaphile
>double reddit spacing single lines
>sperging on about how this is totally realistic
Yeah i'm not reading all this.
Proper spacing didn’t originate on Reddit you brainbroken troon. Some of us have an education.
>Cringy Cinemaphile autists are the scariest people on the planet to most normies.
Amerimutts*
>Dano’s Riddler, Ledger’s Joker, Anton Chigurh or Hannibal Lecter.
The answer would Chigurh. Only Lecter and Joker are viewed as "cool". Riddler is seen as a joke.
Chigurh was scary in 2006 when the character seemed realistic. Today he is an interesting spectacle, but doesn’t illicit a visceral disgust like he did back then. Ysee, a lot of sociology and understanding the zeitgeist goes into writing movies.
There’s a reason we haven’t had any memorable villains in the past decade. It’s because we’re socially in a weird period where it’s difficult to create cultural consensus about negative characteristics.
We saw the same in around 1920-1930s, the world didn’t have a strong unifying narrative to rally behind.
Yeah, you clearly didn't read the actual point I was making because you're to busy trying to bait people in this thread. You're a fricking dork talking about Batman on an anonymous message board. The only difference between you and anybody else in this thread is that you seem to have a measure of pride about it.
You didn’t make an actual point. All you said was "we can’t take this dork seriously, shitty film", while I’m telling you dorks are seen as creepy these days, not pathetic
That's not what I said. You lack reading comprehension and you're still trying to bait you fricking nerd.
that scene specifically and the one with the henchman calling him Vengance is about batman realising he's been cringe all along.
It's about him realizing he's taken the incorrect mentality to his fight against crime, but it's not him realizing that being an autist who dresses like a Bat and growls at people is cringe.
>It should be the moment Batman sees just how pathetic he is
That's not how it's written, it's literally the moment Riddler realizes that he overestimated Batman twice. Once that he is on his side and two that he saw through his plan. But dumbo Batman had no fricking idea about the bombs. In the end sperg Riddler, sperging out that his plan is still in effect and the bombs will go off, is absolutely in character.He is fricking giddy, that's all. Do you complain every time Joker has a moronic, impromptu laugh too?
>this is what I imagine an autistic loser to act like.
Good film isn't about relating to your sad life and outlook.
This is why "realism" has become an ugly word in gamedev circles.
Projecting
What the frick are you even blabbing about. The Riddler’s character is an autistic incel. So depicting that with a good performance that captures an autistic incel is wrong? Embarrassing logic
>The Riddler’s character is an autistic incel.
>So depicting that with a good performance that captures an autistic incel is wrong?
Ignoring that they re-wrote him that way because they wanted to depict that, it's fricking dreary material defended under the guise of realism which is the #1 defense of hacks.
This shit is old hat in gamedev which is why I mentioned it, where they would make the most inane plot points and add in ugly brown n bloom scenery and take teatiful women models facescans and make them look like bogged trannies because fuglies are supposedly "realistic".
You saund like a fat incel loser, you don't like riddler cause he's you.
yeah the movie was miserable to sit through in theater
super villains are supposed to be cool
also batman was almost as bad as well
>super villains are supposed to be cool
wasn't Cinemaphile obsessed over a movie which portrayed the most iconic comicbook supervillain as a mentally ill incel who lives with his mom
Even he was cooler than this Riddler which is saying something....and the consensus on that joker is that Todd Philips just used the brand name to make his OC movie.
>super villains are meant to be cool
lol, lmao even
comic books are lame, even the best 2 batman comic books, Dark Knight, and Killing Joke would be considered mid in any other media.
the riddler's character is not an autistic incel. this shitty adaptation decided on that angle, and it's bad. nobody fricking enjoys that. the people you try to ignore on the bus do not make great nor memorable supervillains.
>they immediately flood the thread
A lot of people enjoyed it, it's part of why the film is a success. Did you want le ebin snazzy suit, bowler hat, bow tie and cane?
>A lot of people enjoyed it, it's part of why the film is a success.
The movie is a success because of the popularity of Batman as an IP, kek. A modest one at that.
>So depicting that with a good performance that captures an autistic incel is wrong?
Autistic incels are also incapable of assassinating multiple high level bureaucrats and orchestrate a terrorist campaign causing city wide destruction. Why ignore that aspect of "realism". The most they do in real life is shoot a room full of kintergarten kids. I understand that Americans have a unhealthy fixation with "incels" and overrate the threat they represent but the rest of the world can't take it seriously.
Wtf do you mean, autistic incels run the biggest companies in the world right now
Stop viewing Billionaires through twitter memes.
Been a TSLA stockholder for 10 years, I judge billionaires on their quarterly reports, not tweets. Elon, Buffett & Mark are without a doubt autistic
>Elon, Buffett & Mark are without a doubt autistic
Fanciful thinking but they're not you.
Why didn't Batman just walk inside the cell and beat this chubby loser's ass until he squeals?
You don't understand anon he sang Ave Maria that means he's invincible and kraaaaay-zee
He'd be banned from Arkham
Probably because people would say it's copying The Dark Knight
This guy nailed it. I had a high-functioning autism classmate and not only he acted like this, but he even looked like this. It's cringe, but that's the point, these people are cringe IRL too.
>. It's cringe, but that's the point, these people are cringe IRL too.
Clowns are cringe irl too but that's not what we expect of the Joker.
This is not the Joker, tho. The Riddler is autistic in most of his comic book and videogame appearances.
He's charming and fun too.
He was literally based on us. Veen on this board for 12 years and I swear, Dano must have lurked here to prepare for the role.
You think it’s cringe because it’s a mirror
Most le crazy psycho men are embarrassing, "cool psychopaths" are rare.
Riddler is a realistic potray of an incel school shoter who thinks he's cool
Which is better, the batman or dune 2?
Dunc 2 by far.
I thought Haaland did OK.
That's precisely how Feyd is supposed to act though, he's written to be over-the-top psycho.