Voice actors and designs for the new Monster High animated series have been revealed. Are you excited or disappointed?
Monster High
Voice actors and designs for the new Monster High animated series have been revealed. Are you excited or disappointed?
I prefer the old designs
You and everybody, apparently. The reboots bombed, all of them.
You know what is funny, I don't remember Monster High having a controversy of "being too sexy" or "unrealistic body standards" like Bratz or Barbie had in their time.
But the old designs were sexier and bolder, the reboots were tame in comparison. Maybe their public want them just sexier and colourful?
And I know they are dolls and that would bring a lot of questions, but if it worked why to change it? And if your changes don't work, why try to push it harder?
>unrealistic body standards
It actually did get attacked for that. Even the skeleton character was accused of selling unrealistic body types. It was even featured on Escher Girls.
How many reboots it had?
It got rebooted in 2016 to stop sales from declining but people hated the changes. Can't imagine this will be any better.
I thought the reboot was the cause of the sales reclining.
She looks like her older sister now.
How was the 2016 reboot?
Overly bright and cutesy with a bunch of new characters nobody asked for.
>Lagoona Blue
>pink skin
But why?
>enby va for frankie
this is going to persist in all MH lore now huh
Someone asked in the previous thread, but I will ask again: When has this shit happened before?
The nick live action movie
She even says some shit about pronouns
>she
They/them
He/them actually.
Frankie is they/them, her live action actor is a girl using he/they, her cartoon VA uses weird neo pronouns.
Ah, ok then.
Also, this all sounds extremely fricking stupid.
Oh it is, and apparently using it in a reboot of a twelve year old doll line will somehow validate it.
>Frankie is they/them, her live action actor
>her
>they/them
kek this is what literally everyone thinks of enbies
Doesn't help that they still use a female design for Frankie.
That's what enbies are though
Same, I don't believe anyone actually sees non binary people as "neither"
I just really can't wrap my fricking head about how anyone just accepts this actual mental illness, I feel like I'm living in a fricking crazy world.
Nobody believes them.
In public people tolerate out of politeness and disinterest.
The "allies" are just trying to sell.
>In public people tolerate out of politeness and disinterest.
That's just the thing, isn't it? When I'm anonymous or among close friends, I can actually say how I feel about this whole bullshit, but in an real social situation? I would absolutely use whatever pronoun they wanted just to avoid being an butthole and getting awkward looks from everyone, it's just not something worth arguing about.
Well, you're just a coward who can't really stand with your ideas or consequences.
I don't care about trannies enough to make a stand about why they're wrong, it's not something worth arguing about.
>What are social cues
>not even making up cool monster pronouns and puns for gender shit
One job
This would be considered mocking non binary people desire them doing the exact same shit
>Frankie Stein, They/Them!
Or something similar.
It is the very first line she says in the trailer. They are really proud of portraying an abomination of science as the trendy new kind of troon.
Why tho?
Frick you I want representation
No
You will never be a hermaphrodite
You don't have to keep reminding me.
This franchise is dead. It's beyond damaged at this point there's no hope of it ever being good again.
So just hold on to your memories of the very beginning, when MH wasn't plagued by subpar designs and wasn't trying to cater to the 3% of mental patients out there.
guess i'll just stick to the skullectors and the reproduction dolls
>"Old-fashioned and brave, Toralei is committed to her cause of preserving monster society."
> design does not reflect that in the slightest.
...This means we're getting an arc where Toralei does a 180 from this description early on, aren't we?
>Penis Parker is Deuce
https://deadline.com/2022/07/monster-high-tony-revolori-gabrielle-nevaeh-green-kausar-mohammed-nickelodeon-series-1235063469/
>Rodriguez portrays Lagoona Blue, having grown up in an ancient underwater Mayan Castillo with her ocean nymph mother and sea monster father, sweet yet ferocious Lagoona doesn’t know much about life on land.
This is Australian genocide.
Did they really make the sea monster a Mexican rep? Why? I am not even mad that she is Mexican just that Skelita is right fricking there and actually represents something Mexican unlike a Black Lagoon style monster.
Did they make her pink to make her look more human and therefore more Mexican? None of this makes sense to me.
>Skull girl
>just that Skelita is right fricking there and actually represents something Mexican
My reaction with every race swap. I’m the end, it's all branding and cynicism.
My best guess is that they decided to push this diversity into the main girls, rather than leave it for side characters because they wanted to put a bigger focus on these specific minorities.
Laguna was australian?
>underwater Mayan Castillo
Just fricking say Mayan Castle, you already translate EVERYTHING ELSE.
>Green portrays half-human and half-werewolf Clawdeen, thrilled to join Monster High despite the challenge of being a half-monster in a school of full-monster students.
Okay, is no one gonna comment on this? Werewolf are already half-human half-wolf. What does that makes her? 3/4s human?
>Lin portrays the daughter of Dracula, vampire Draculaura who seems like the perfect dictionary definition of a monster. But she hides a deep desire to become a witch, which is strictly forbidden in the monster world.
WAT!? What the frick!? Aren't different types of monsters supposed to be different races? Is this gonna be some kind of troony metaphor or something!?
Technically the creature from the black lagoon was from the Amazon, so her being central/south american isn't that much of a stretch, but seems unnecessary when they already have several hispanic characters to choose from.
>This is Australian genocide.
Not everything is bad news!
When did Debra Wilson replace Cree Summer as the goto "black lady" voice?
Why is a man playing female character.
It's a non binary person playing a non binary character
Why did they retcon a normal girl to be a genderblob?
Why did they give a grown man the part to play a teenage girl in highschool?
This is done for practical reasons. Actual boys age out of their voice. Its easier, and more consistent to hire an adult woman to emulate a boy than having to replace and retrain them every year. Sometimes, a voice becomes so iconic that a female voice actor continues to voice the character as an adult, like Goku or Bart Simpson.
And I dont have to explain any of this because you are a troon who only cares about ruining it for everyone else, and mental illnesses are inherently destructive.
Poor you,
Won't someone please think of poor anons traumatized by Monster High characters.
This! Imagine seething over harmless non binary characters. I’m going to support the show just to piss off these dumbasses.
>Oh god how could Biden lose?
The audience are manchildren, not actual children.
This has got to suck for the girls who grew up with the original dolls
Instead of making their own shit with alphabet people, like Steven Universe, they have to highjack an older IP with an established fanbase thinking that will transfer over as support. Usually its IPs meant for little girls. This literally pleases nobody but the 40 year old creepy AGP troons on Twitter.
it's funny in a sense, males have constantly been radicalized by shit like this, this time women will be the ones getting radicalized and it will be a clusterfrick.
Poor you, how did you make it without a cartoon character to validate your assumed identity?
Ah, by talking to yourself, I see.
>Why did they give a grown man the part to play a teenage girl in highschool?
It doesn't call itself a man so it's cool.
You do know grown men have been playing highschooles since the dawn of time because teen tv actors are cringe, right? Have you heard of Beverly Hills, 90210?
That's not all comparable to what he's talking about. Adults have already voiced teens in Monster High
No one tell him about who voices most young little boy characters
This. Why is it suddenly bad for genderqueer people to voice genderqueer people?
Voice actresses voicing little boys weren't going by zie m/hir
Linda Belcher?
Doctor Girlfriend?
Lola from Bigmouth?
>Linda Belcher?
You forgot Tina, unless the man who voices her trooned out.
It's all played for comedy. Like crossdressing. Or it was until activists took it seriously.
I'm surprised no one brought up Ghoulia Yelps as a gotcha given that she was voiced by a man. And even then two things
1. Her voice acting was limited to zombie groans.
2. The VA wasn't a non-binary lesbian who goes by xir and Ghoulia wasn't treated as legbutt rep introduced by pronouns.
Really? In the latin sub she was voiced by a woman.
dub*
Because current year.
>Doctor Girlfriend
Wait I know that one, so you just listed characters with male VOs for the sake of jokes, not representation?
>men can't sound like children
>women (vaguely) can
>children are notoriously bad to work with
I'm guessing he has a uniquely girly voice then, otherwise you're arguing for men to play women in a girl's cartoon because... what reason? Shakespeare?
so...
no ghoulia? I mean, she probably doesn't need a voice actor that much, but that picture doesn't inspire me.
Why is Ghoulia constantly getting fricked over in the reboots?
Her dolls sold like shit and parents thought the character was insensitive to autistic people.
That's fair, but I still think she should be in the series.
I thought she was Mute/Deaf representation.
She spoke Zombie which was fine and was also the smartest and a comic geek.
I'm glad she got skipped on this dogshit.
She's back in the movie, but she just talks normally.
Not a MH fan but that girl Cleo looks like Isabela from Encanto
The Sponge Standard
https://www.tumblr.com/blog/view/deluxesoap/687256654093352960?source=share
Oh no no no
>expect nothing
>still disappointed
Nothing new there.
Will Operetta appear in this reboot she was my favourite in the original monster high?
>southern belle rockstar
Fat chance
If she's your favorite, why would you want her to be in a shitty reboot?
I'm just curious about how bad they would handle the character. Plus I would like a newer doll for customization.
>hire a man who pretends to be a gender special kweer and occasionally goes by Ezra
Because that can't possibly backfire
Rent free.
This! Why does the non binary gang live rent free in people's heads?
I wasn't aware making light of something was rent free
My gender identity is not a punchline for you to joke about or make light of.
Yes, yes it is.
I don't know about you but someone being non binary is a pretty fricking funny to me
Only Draculaura and Deuce are somewhat good. Clawdeen is the worst one.
They made her "quirky" uuuggghhhh, frick.
I was like 12 last time I've seen anything related to monster high was clawdeen always so nerdy looking
Not at all
So the first 4 I totally get. Werewolf, vampire, Frankenstein monster, Gorgon, Cleopatra (Not a monster, I'd think mummy, but I get it).
What exactly is Heath Burns, and everything after that? I guess Lagoona Blue is a mermaid? Stripe is a catgirl?
Cleo is a mummy, they just never make it explicit enough; a more obvious mummy would be harder to sell to girls.
Lagoona is supposed to be Creature from the Deep type of monster.
After a while they started running out of gothic/Universal monsters so they had to go with generic fantastical creatures like cat girls and fire elementals.
I don't even need to read this thread. My guess is that Cinemaphile is triggered by black people being in monster high.
Honestly this site is predictable.
Not a single person has brought up black people in this thread you fricking moron.
Clawdeen looks nerdier.
Draculaura looks chubbier.
Frankie looks alright, but the troon voice might be off-putting.
Deuce looks cool.
Cleo looks more Indian than Coptic, I guess they figured Egypt = Arab.
Heath looks like a preschool character.
Lagoona looks okay, wish she was still blue though.
Toralei still looks kind of punky, hope she's still a b***h.
Bloodgood looks the same, but race-swapped. Debra Wilson voices a lot of authoratative black characters so that's probably how she'll be characterized.
Guess I can comfortably dump this then. I had hope for the dolls, since the last collector's releases were great, and they rereleased the first wave too, but these designs are garbage, they don't capture the characters at all.
im so suck of looking at debra wilson
I liked her on MadTV. She did a good Oprah impression.
>only one white person in the cast
>he is israeli
Shocker...
>looks up frankie's va to see if voice at least fits the character
>finds out the fricker uses neo-pronouns
I cool with a lot of the gender stuff but I'm not going to respect you as a human being if you use neo-pronouns
Of all the characters why Frankie? If anything, I figured they'd make Draculaura the femboi trap character. I wouldn't like it, but I can sort of see it, so explaining it away wouldn't be too hard. With Frankie it makes no sense. Unless you consider her being an amalgamation of humans parts as rationalizing it.
>Unless you consider her being an amalgamation of humans parts as rationalizing it.
That's the reason they're going with. She's made out of male and female body parts and has multiple dormant personalities.
Jackson was the most obvious choice for gay representation.
What about that purple unicorn/pegasus looking dude with, I think, rainbow hair from that one movie. I remember getting gay vibes almost immediately from that character. Why not bring him into the fold for gay rep if that's what they want? Unless they were concerned with being a bit too on the nose about it.
Mattel actually stopped the creator of Monster High from making both that character and Valentine gay.
powerful
That's a man
it looks like one