There are exponentially more people trying to make a mountain out of a molehill from the "pEaCh iS wOkE" grifters than people trying to ragebait that line for Youtube clicks.
>#Wish - $745K
That's actually a good number.
>we're a culturally irrelevant laughing stock losing more normie casual fans by the day >at least we still make money XD
>destroy entire legacy >tarnish the reputation of the entire leftwing >esg in the garbage >leftism in the garbage >culture war in the garbage >the nazis win again
was getting caught part of their plan?
I want a movie of mickey mouse beating an unmarried minnie in a drunken irish rage in front of his 3 kids after she catches him cheating on her with daisy. Bobbie iger is too afraid that nelson peltz will steal his special shower and child access and wont make it so we really just need to wait till the eternal copyright ends.
you are missing the point.
Many old characters are still popular despite copyright, if mickey can't on it's own then he is a tumor and needs to be removed.
I'm pretty sure the current theory is just that they are going to rely on a combination of trademark and still having the copyright to newer versions on mickey to minimize the effect of steamboat willie entering public domain.
Disney probably won't bother actually.
Since America's law system has basically allowed Disney to still hold the copy right to most uses of Mickey Mouse for the next 4 to 5 decades at least.
Since all that's going out of copyright is Steamboat Mickey, that means that only the Steamboat Mickey version of Mickey, or an original take on that character, counts as public domaine.
US law has determined that attributes of a public domain character introduced in later additions which would still be under copyright are still under copyright.
So Disney could sue any version of MM who talks squeaky or has a dog named Pluto or whatever.
And the internet has made normally low profile laws like stuff regarding public domain, bigger news. So more congressmen would be unwilling to do something unpopular, like sign another copyright extension
And Disney has made the Mickey of Steamboat Willie the logo of their company, for which they can have permanent ownership as long as this is their logo.
Not how it works, you can't claim back rights to public domain stuff just by putting it in your logo otherwise I could make my own company with the Mona Lisa for logo and make infinite money.
I think the idea is to use trademark law to potentially limit uses of steamboat willie, especially that bit. I don't think it's a very strong legal argument, but knowing the reputation of Disney's lawyers, people might not want to risk it.
>I could make my own company with the Mona Lisa for logo and make infinite money.
You absolutely can use Mona Lisa in the name of your company, and as part of your logo. You can, for example, name your window installation company "Mona Lisa Stained Glass Co" and prevent other window installers from using Mona Lisa in their name. Trademark law is not about protecting your right as a creator, but protecting customers from confusion.
The bigger problem with Mickey Mouse is if you try to create original content with him. If you veer even slightly away from that original design, Disney may claim you have infringed on one of the myriad of later Mickey Mouse designs that are still under protection. All it takes is for one stupid judge to rule that Mickey with enclosed pupils is a unique non-obvious design element, and 99.9% of derivative fan art becomes technically infringing again.
You took my smile well I'll take yours too
Your profits drop as I'm tuning out
So when you're waiting for the next budget cut
You understand there's no doing back
The movie drops, go watch it guys
But in this market niche no one buys
The sight of blacks and women and transmen
At when it bombs you blame white men
OOOOOOOH
OOOOOOOH
You know lots of properties are pubic domain and it does not corrode their value. Copyright is bullshit. Fricking China does give a frick about copyrights and they still out source more goods than the rest of the """"freeworld"""" even in indentured slaves.
>OOHH BOOO HOOO!!! THE COMPANY RAN BY PEOPLE WITH NO STAKE IN SOCIETY THAT PANDERED TO A DERANGED IDEOLOGICAL CLIQUE LOST MONEY BECAUSE THEIR NEW DERANGED STAFF EXPLOITED THEIR NEWFOUND POWER TO RAM THEIR PROPAGANDA DOWN PEOPLES THROATS AND DROVE AWAY ITS NOW DISILLUSIONED CONSUMER BASE! OH DEAR OH GOLLY OH GOSH!!!
what clique might they have been pandering to? i know they've never been popular with leftists because they almost never do anything progressive that isn't tokenism or things nobody actually wants like ugly fatsos.
That's pretty much it. They aren't pandering to leftists, they're pandering to the kind of people who would give Hillary Clinton airtime in 2023. The people who write for their newspapers and go to their parties.
Liberal washtrading, basically.
>100th year anniversary >Disney: fantasia a century of magic >Holy frick this is going to be so based the promos look so god damn amazing they even shot a lot on film >Jesus fricking christ they have been working on this for the past 10-13 years gathering all these artists and directors to create something so fricking magical to honor Walt Disney and animation over the past 130ish years >Based as frick movie a mix of trad 2D 3D claymation stopframe oil on glass a few experimental animation mediums >The budget for this was only 150m as all these directors were fighting to show off their 10-15mins of animation in their style creating something so god damn magical Walt cant stop smiling in his grave >I >CANT >WAIT >TO >WATCH >THIS >OH MY FRICK IT BROKE 50 million views in just a week everyone cant stop talking about this >Everyone is amazed by the animation >The directors are talking about how its cheaper and takes less time than 3D now its just finding skilled animators is hard >THIS IS FRICKING AMAZING >Wake up >It was all just a dream >Movie is just princessslop >A movie about the Moors in Spain >Horrific monsters who would not stop committing genocide and enslaving whites >Some of the worst koranimals to ever rule a country in europe >Their crimes they commited against the Spanish were as bad as the Spanish did to the Aztecs/South Americans >This is meant to show off 100 years of Disney >This is meant to show off 100 years of animation >This is meant to show off 100 years of domination,creativity and imagination
Everyone involved with this including ok'ing it funding advertising shilling it in the company needs to be fired ASAP and blacklisted from ~~*hollywood*~~
"They" are literally ruining the companies legacy, creating 3DPD remakes to sully Disney's wonderful animation and stories. Poisoning all of Disney's ip's so all everyone thinks/talks about is the remakes for the next X decades. So someone worse can buy the company.
It's not fair! Why must such a small indie studio scrounging up for scraps on a daily basis suffer such a cruel fate! My heart goes out to Walt Disney Pictures, and hopes they're able to climb from financial ruin!
There are exponentially more people trying to make a mountain out of a molehill from the "pEaCh iS wOkE" grifters than people trying to ragebait that line for Youtube clicks.
Movie Peach is such a Mary Sue it loops around to being misogynistic. She has no flaw or real personality, she's mostly there so the plot moves forward while more interesting characters like Bowser, Toad or DK take the spotlight. Even Mario is more interesting in the movie when in the games he's literally a blank slate. It's insulting, really.
I can forgive them making Peach a boring girlboss, but I cannot forgive them fricking over Luigi by making him a damsel or forgetting that Toad was even there half the time.
>Movie Peach is such a Mary Sue it loops around to being misogynistic.
No, not really. Not at all, even.
The problem is not that Peach is written like a Mary Sue. She is not. The problem is that she was written like Princess Daisy. So, how are they going to write Princess daisy, now?
Must have missed the time when Daisy was the champion of Sasara Kingdom and all its isles, how the frick is movie Peach acting incredibly more competent makes her be like Daisy? Are you seriously mistaking a tomboy for girlboss?
>the classic blunder of invoking the movie your thoughtmasters decided was liberal propaganda until it did super well and they had to quickly change their talking points to tradvalues and nopolitics
lol
>Maybe if they stop to pander diversity, feminism and all this shit for a change. >Maybe have an actual Mickey movie. >Super Marios Bros had nothing of that and got $ 1B.
this has to be bate. The mario movie had the classic save the princess plotline removed to appease feminist. They give Peach a pants suit and let her participate in most of the film's action to appease feminist. What kind of glue do you sniff? Disney has been pro feminist for 32 something years. Probably longer
because everybody is just taking a piece of the cake and running away. Nobody at disney cares if the company goes bankrupt as long as they are set for life.
huge budgets for both production costs and advertisement costs, lack of DVD sales since the DVD market died, and increased reliance on overseas bucks (where studios get a smaller cut of the ticket sales than they do domestically).
too many people involved, imagine if back in the day the godfather had a deal with tux tabaco and car companies and was hoping to become a trademark more than a movie. Is essentially what's going on these days, the real money isn't made on tickets sold.
Toy Story 3 in 2010. That was the first animated movie to crack a billion dollars. Before that the Pirates of the Caribbean Dead Man's Chest hit a billion in 2006.
rest in piss
Send in the clowns…those laughy daffy…cloooowns
daffy is Warner Bros though
Wow I'm sure they'll enter the poor house tomorrow. Just two more weeks bros, patriots are in control.
The Lalilulelo?
I doubt that anon is going to get an MG reference
Metal Gear!? it cant be...
arsenal gear is not a true metal gear
discuss among yourselves
I did get that reference.
Dude, you need to go outside and get back in touch with reality.
>we're a culturally irrelevant laughing stock losing more normie casual fans by the day
>at least we still make money XD
>destroy entire legacy
>tarnish the reputation of the entire leftwing
>esg in the garbage
>leftism in the garbage
>culture war in the garbage
>the nazis win again
was getting caught part of their plan?
Maybe Disney won't be able to afford lobbying to extend copyright AGAIN this year, boo hoo.
I can't wait for the edgy horror movies of Mickey Mouse like we have of Winnie the Pooh.. mmm such good content!
I want a movie of mickey mouse beating an unmarried minnie in a drunken irish rage in front of his 3 kids after she catches him cheating on her with daisy. Bobbie iger is too afraid that nelson peltz will steal his special shower and child access and wont make it so we really just need to wait till the eternal copyright ends.
Just because low-effort jackasses use a public IP to make schlock doesn't mean copyrights should last forever.
This, how much more money does Walt Disney's ghost need of his creation?
If Twilight was a public IP I'd rewrite the series but with Bella x Alice.
Wasn't Twilight just a rewritten fanfic or am I thinking of something else?
Fifty Shades of Grey was a rewritten Twilight fanfic.
I don't recall Edward tying Bella up
It was a bondage fanfic
So the author of Fifty Shades of Grey had written a bdsm Bella and Edward fic and then decided to write her own novel based off her fanfic?
Didn't they accidentally call the male lead Edward at one point in the book?
>Fifty Shades of Grey was a rewritten Twilight fanfic.
I've heard this. And its still weird.
That "edgy horror movie" did better than every single Disney movie this year.
you are missing the point.
Many old characters are still popular despite copyright, if mickey can't on it's own then he is a tumor and needs to be removed.
I'm pretty sure the current theory is just that they are going to rely on a combination of trademark and still having the copyright to newer versions on mickey to minimize the effect of steamboat willie entering public domain.
You honestly think a bill that increases the power of the biggest entertainment company on the planet has even a SLIGHT chance of passing?
Disney probably won't bother actually.
Since America's law system has basically allowed Disney to still hold the copy right to most uses of Mickey Mouse for the next 4 to 5 decades at least.
Since all that's going out of copyright is Steamboat Mickey, that means that only the Steamboat Mickey version of Mickey, or an original take on that character, counts as public domaine.
US law has determined that attributes of a public domain character introduced in later additions which would still be under copyright are still under copyright.
So Disney could sue any version of MM who talks squeaky or has a dog named Pluto or whatever.
And the internet has made normally low profile laws like stuff regarding public domain, bigger news. So more congressmen would be unwilling to do something unpopular, like sign another copyright extension
And Disney has made the Mickey of Steamboat Willie the logo of their company, for which they can have permanent ownership as long as this is their logo.
Not how it works, you can't claim back rights to public domain stuff just by putting it in your logo otherwise I could make my own company with the Mona Lisa for logo and make infinite money.
I think the idea is to use trademark law to potentially limit uses of steamboat willie, especially that bit. I don't think it's a very strong legal argument, but knowing the reputation of Disney's lawyers, people might not want to risk it.
>Not how it works, you can't claim back rights to public domain stuff
It's not public domain yet and the logo already exists and is in use.
>I could make my own company with the Mona Lisa for logo and make infinite money.
You absolutely can use Mona Lisa in the name of your company, and as part of your logo. You can, for example, name your window installation company "Mona Lisa Stained Glass Co" and prevent other window installers from using Mona Lisa in their name. Trademark law is not about protecting your right as a creator, but protecting customers from confusion.
The bigger problem with Mickey Mouse is if you try to create original content with him. If you veer even slightly away from that original design, Disney may claim you have infringed on one of the myriad of later Mickey Mouse designs that are still under protection. All it takes is for one stupid judge to rule that Mickey with enclosed pupils is a unique non-obvious design element, and 99.9% of derivative fan art becomes technically infringing again.
How many Disney movies did we have this year?
Elemental, Little Mermaid, Haunted Mansion, Ant-Man, GotG, Indiana Jones, Marvels
Those are from disneyfied studios and live action versions
Also the Fox movies: The Creator, Next Goal Wins and A Haunting in Venice.
>2023 is the first year
>since 2014
then it's not the first year, you fricking idiots
>esl in charge of reading
Your syntax is terrible.
I think that's the joke, Also disney owns avatar blue people avatar
Animebros
We won
But at what cost? Everything is Shounenshit or Isekai shit now.
do you even know the definition of shounen
>Shounenshit
Shounen is kino,gay.
oh no, how will the multi billion dollar mega corpo ever recover from this?
>you took my only box office. Now I'm gonna starve.
You took my smile well I'll take yours too
Your profits drop as I'm tuning out
So when you're waiting for the next budget cut
You understand there's no doing back
The movie drops, go watch it guys
But in this market niche no one buys
The sight of blacks and women and transmen
At when it bombs you blame white men
OOOOOOOH
OOOOOOOH
Pardon my typos, I am sleepy.
This board can't even do lyric parodies right
You know lots of properties are pubic domain and it does not corrode their value. Copyright is bullshit. Fricking China does give a frick about copyrights and they still out source more goods than the rest of the """"freeworld"""" even in indentured slaves.
>OOHH BOOO HOOO!!! THE COMPANY RAN BY PEOPLE WITH NO STAKE IN SOCIETY THAT PANDERED TO A DERANGED IDEOLOGICAL CLIQUE LOST MONEY BECAUSE THEIR NEW DERANGED STAFF EXPLOITED THEIR NEWFOUND POWER TO RAM THEIR PROPAGANDA DOWN PEOPLES THROATS AND DROVE AWAY ITS NOW DISILLUSIONED CONSUMER BASE! OH DEAR OH GOLLY OH GOSH!!!
what clique might they have been pandering to? i know they've never been popular with leftists because they almost never do anything progressive that isn't tokenism or things nobody actually wants like ugly fatsos.
That's pretty much it. They aren't pandering to leftists, they're pandering to the kind of people who would give Hillary Clinton airtime in 2023. The people who write for their newspapers and go to their parties.
Liberal washtrading, basically.
the poseur audience
You voted for him.
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reminded me of this
So?
besides they can only make woke garbage now, they lost the chink market. they could recover to some extent domestically but they can no longer grow.
They should make another Fantasia
Make better movies.
They had a $1B movie in 2020?
2020 and 2021 are excluded due to theaters being closed
Doesn't need to exclude 2021, No Way Home came out and almost made enough billions for 2 movies.
>100th year anniversary
>Disney: fantasia a century of magic
>Holy frick this is going to be so based the promos look so god damn amazing they even shot a lot on film
>Jesus fricking christ they have been working on this for the past 10-13 years gathering all these artists and directors to create something so fricking magical to honor Walt Disney and animation over the past 130ish years
>Based as frick movie a mix of trad 2D 3D claymation stopframe oil on glass a few experimental animation mediums
>The budget for this was only 150m as all these directors were fighting to show off their 10-15mins of animation in their style creating something so god damn magical Walt cant stop smiling in his grave
>I
>CANT
>WAIT
>TO
>WATCH
>THIS
>OH MY FRICK IT BROKE 50 million views in just a week everyone cant stop talking about this
>Everyone is amazed by the animation
>The directors are talking about how its cheaper and takes less time than 3D now its just finding skilled animators is hard
>THIS IS FRICKING AMAZING
>Wake up
>It was all just a dream
>Movie is just princessslop
>A movie about the Moors in Spain
>Horrific monsters who would not stop committing genocide and enslaving whites
>Some of the worst koranimals to ever rule a country in europe
>Their crimes they commited against the Spanish were as bad as the Spanish did to the Aztecs/South Americans
>This is meant to show off 100 years of Disney
>This is meant to show off 100 years of animation
>This is meant to show off 100 years of domination,creativity and imagination
Everyone involved with this including ok'ing it funding advertising shilling it in the company needs to be fired ASAP and blacklisted from ~~*hollywood*~~
"They" are literally ruining the companies legacy, creating 3DPD remakes to sully Disney's wonderful animation and stories. Poisoning all of Disney's ip's so all everyone thinks/talks about is the remakes for the next X decades. So someone worse can buy the company.
baste 😀
I hate disney so much its unreal
Your hypothetical hybrid movie is what the Figment movie should be instead of the live-action Seth Rogen produced slop we're getting.
It's not fair! Why must such a small indie studio scrounging up for scraps on a daily basis suffer such a cruel fate! My heart goes out to Walt Disney Pictures, and hopes they're able to climb from financial ruin!
Boo fricking hoo. Disney needed this L, maybe they'll finally get off their high horse
Maybe if they stop to pander diversity, feminism and all this shit for a change.
Maybe have an actual Mickey movie.
Super Marios Bros had nothing of that and got $ 1B.
Weren't people complaining about it being woke because of Peach being a girl boss?
There are exponentially more people trying to make a mountain out of a molehill from the "pEaCh iS wOkE" grifters than people trying to ragebait that line for Youtube clicks.
Movie Peach is such a Mary Sue it loops around to being misogynistic. She has no flaw or real personality, she's mostly there so the plot moves forward while more interesting characters like Bowser, Toad or DK take the spotlight. Even Mario is more interesting in the movie when in the games he's literally a blank slate. It's insulting, really.
I can forgive them making Peach a boring girlboss, but I cannot forgive them fricking over Luigi by making him a damsel or forgetting that Toad was even there half the time.
>Movie Peach is such a Mary Sue it loops around to being misogynistic.
No, not really. Not at all, even.
The problem is not that Peach is written like a Mary Sue. She is not. The problem is that she was written like Princess Daisy. So, how are they going to write Princess daisy, now?
Must have missed the time when Daisy was the champion of Sasara Kingdom and all its isles, how the frick is movie Peach acting incredibly more competent makes her be like Daisy? Are you seriously mistaking a tomboy for girlboss?
movie peach is a mary sue, there can be no denying that (without trying to gaslight)
shes also a generic girlboss, its terrible
>the classic blunder of invoking the movie your thoughtmasters decided was liberal propaganda until it did super well and they had to quickly change their talking points to tradvalues and nopolitics
lol
Bro, Mario movie is feminism as frick
>Maybe if they stop to pander diversity, feminism and all this shit for a change.
>Maybe have an actual Mickey movie.
>Super Marios Bros had nothing of that and got $ 1B.
this has to be bate. The mario movie had the classic save the princess plotline removed to appease feminist. They give Peach a pants suit and let her participate in most of the film's action to appease feminist. What kind of glue do you sniff? Disney has been pro feminist for 32 something years. Probably longer
>The mario movie had the classic save the princess plotline removed to appease feminist.
Source? Which feminist b***hed to make that happen?
put a woman in it, make it gayer!
is this the fated timeline? Could disney actually die to it's own stupidty?
Daily #BoxOffice Top 8 for Monday, November 27, 2023
1. #TheHungerGames - $1.91M
2. #Napoleon - $1.46M
3. #Wish - $745K
4. #TrollsBandTogether - $617K
5. #ThanksgivingMovie - $430K
6. #TheMarvels - $340K
7. #Saltburn - $307K
8. #TheHoldovers - $215K
The hunger games is doing well, too bad the plot sucks after book 1, I'd rather watch a movie trilogy based off Battle Royale series.
>#Wish - $745K
That's actually a good number.
For its first Monday? Trolls and Hunger Games are week 2
No it isn't. It's the first Monday and it's already below a million.
>Napoleon that high
Damn, I'm so happy biopics are coming back. Finally, the drought is over for me.
Why do they keep insisting on a formula that has led to disaster over and over?!
because everybody is just taking a piece of the cake and running away. Nobody at disney cares if the company goes bankrupt as long as they are set for life.
el rattones es muerto
Is insane we live in a world where not making a Billion dollars is consider a failure.
Pretty insane that disney puts a crazy budget into anything where they now need that billion to make a project a success.
Why is the profit standard for movies so high nowadays? Is it inflation?
Bloated budgets
huge budgets for both production costs and advertisement costs, lack of DVD sales since the DVD market died, and increased reliance on overseas bucks (where studios get a smaller cut of the ticket sales than they do domestically).
too many people involved, imagine if back in the day the godfather had a deal with tux tabaco and car companies and was hoping to become a trademark more than a movie. Is essentially what's going on these days, the real money isn't made on tickets sold.
go wokey go brokey
Why do morons constantly crop out the twitter handle? If you're going to post twitter shit at least make it so that people can double check the source
Stfu snitch
Fricking white woman
Get doxxed you little b***h.
perfect way to ring in 100 years
When was the first year Disney had a Billion-dollar movie(Unadjusted for inflation)
Toy Story 3 in 2010. That was the first animated movie to crack a billion dollars. Before that the Pirates of the Caribbean Dead Man's Chest hit a billion in 2006.
2006 with pirates of the Carribbean
2010 with Alice in Wonderland and Toy Story 3 if you meat first year with an animated film hitting it.
#RIPBOZO