starts out as interesting, realistic robot sci-fi >>ends with magical aliens
>They were future humans not aliens
This movie made my stomach hurt. What was the point? This fake child is built solely to need a mother’s love and is forever tortured by not receiving it? And the “good” ending is after a million years aliens are able to flash clone his mom who rejected him and died millions of years ago, but she will only live for a day?
I’m of the feeling that any robot movie, the robot is always just an object within the story, no matter how human it pretends to be or is made to be. I think believing that a robot is human and deserves rights to be a bizarre and crypto anti human thing. It feels like some conspiracy theory programming thing for normies.
>This movie made my stomach hurt. What was the point? This fake child is built solely to need a mother’s love and is forever tortured by not receiving it?
didnt watch the movie but isnt that the plot to ergo proxy?
i dont remember the robutts having a very practical job. it was some philosophical thing about filling in as the role of humanity until the humans actually return
Yeah Spielberg isn’t good at sci-fi.
Also my main memory of that film was being afraid I was a robot because my mom used to pull the car over and leave me in the middle of nowhere all the time.
I was not the brightest kid.
Why would she even do that in the first place? We know he's a robot and she clearly cares about him but then why not just destroy him instead of leaving him to rot in the woods
Humans abandon pets on the side of the road all the time and convince themselves the pets will be fine even when they understand that the pet will either get hit by a car or die miserably.
She didn't want him around, but had enough affection for him that he didn't want to be responsible for destroying him directly.
>when cgi was done by professional studios full of israeli men
FTFY
115 average IQ. thats the same as the gap between whites and blacks. its not even fair
This movie made my stomach hurt. What was the point? This fake child is built solely to need a mother’s love and is forever tortured by not receiving it? And the “good” ending is after a million years aliens are able to flash clone his mom who rejected him and died millions of years ago, but she will only live for a day?
I’m of the feeling that any robot movie, the robot is always just an object within the story, no matter how human it pretends to be or is made to be. I think believing that a robot is human and deserves rights to be a bizarre and crypto anti human thing. It feels like some conspiracy theory programming thing for normies.
>I think believing that a robot is human and deserves rights to be a bizarre and crypto anti human thing
What exactly do you think this movie explores? Never once do they establish that David is akin to a human or even a moral creation
>Never once do they establish that David is akin to a human or even a moral creation
I haven’t watched it in a while so forgive me if I’m not totally right, but the whole thing was a “I’m a real boy” Sci fi pinnochio thing. There’s even the Flesh Fare scene, where people destroy robots for fun to assert that they are just objects and not human, but the whole crowd calls for David to be freed because they think he’s a real little boy. The guy running it even gives a speech about him just being an advance copy of a child, but he’s not a real child and should be destroyed. The movie ends with him going to the factory he was made at and angrily destroying other David’s before the scientist says he’s “special” and super advance because he can really feel love or something, and the movie ends with him wishing a fairy turns him into a real boy. Throughout the entire movie, it’s making you feel for him too, as an entity deserving of love and respect and not just a machine.
Yeah, but he isn't. The whole point of the ending is that he's doing what he was programmed to do, be with his mother. It's not actual love or emotion. The robots granted him his wish because he was the precursor to their designs and they're just letting do what he was built to do. It's not a happy ending
>What was the point?
It's bittersweet. The kid becomes human because the robots that find him at the end are so advanced that for them he could as well be a real human, since he's the closest thing to a human left on earth.
What aliens? Pretty sure those are advanced AI robots whose predecessors survived and thrived (or possibly even left the earth) after the extinction of mankind.
Very true, which is why I always have trouble buying any 'are robots actually humans?' themed media.
Robot oppression in media is generally used as an allegory for racism. But like most attempts at racism allegories in fiction, they don't make much sense on their own and ironically justify IRL racism. >omg humans are le evil for not treating their own creations (which they could've chosen not to create, much less give them feelings) as equal to them, just like IRL racists guys! >omg humans are le evil for trying to prevent mutants with literal super powers capable of causing mass destruction from causing mass destruction, just like IRL racists guys!
this, every movie with robots like this tries to make you feel like the robots are people because they have emotions, but really you're just expected to believe that they have emotions just because they act like it.
>This fake child is built solely to need a mother’s love and is forever tortured by not receiving it? And the “good” ending is after a million years aliens are able to flash clone his mom who rejected him and died millions of years ago, but she will only live for a day?
He became human or as close to human as it gets by the end of the story and gains his wish to see his mom one last time. Super robots were a way of doing it but it was presented poorly and should have been put in a more abstract light
I’m not sure, but this movie just makes me appreciate my mother and when I think about the ending scene I feel the need to call her and tell her I love her.
I think this movie was born out of Kubricks mommy issues
The ending puts things in perspective. Through the movie humans treat him as "lesser" than them because he's a machine, but the robots from the future have progressed so far beyond humanity that to them David is basically a human.
show its like when white people visit Cinemaphile?
I thought they needed the human waste products to make stuff.
youre right i looked it up. the proxies themselves are to fix the plant but rule over the other robots and humans like gods. also i just now realized after reading the wiki that re-l wasnt a robot but was a human the whole time
I’ve always taken away that maybe he got his wish, he became real enough to die. The bringing back his mother for a day thing, for some reason, applied to him too.
I never liked the interpretation that he died at the end. Not only because I felt like people wanted to make the ending darker than it needed to be, but also because it would be incoherent for the super robots to let David die. He was like the holy grail for them.
I think you could maybe safely assume that they had already revived him many times and run whatever tests and knowledge extraction they wanted, and that when we see him brought to the last time it’s because they wiped all of that and gave that one day as his “last” day before filing it all away as a sort of act of grace and thanks to him, like tidying up an in-game house and laying the character on a bed before shutting it down the last time you play it.
Robots can't do anything with a human soul. It left their plain of existence 2000 years prior. All they could do was make a simulation of her based on her hair (dna or something).
There's one thing I don't get. They said they experimented with bringing people back to life, but they would die after just one day and they could never be brought back again. But with whom did they experiment then? It couldn't be Monica, or else they couldn't have brought her back again for David. But I don't think they had DNA from anyone else.
5 months ago
Anonymous
There's no reason to think all the DNA from humans was destroyed in the 2000 years since David sinks, since we can find intact DNA from animals that were frozen in the wild thousands of years ago.
5 months ago
Anonymous
My head canon is that by the time the met David they had already developed that technology and had tried to bring humans back without success. It's more believable than that they found a way to extract information from the time continuum just to please David.
5 months ago
Anonymous
5 months ago
Anonymous
this movie fricked me up as a kid because of this ending. i cried a lot. just the idea of being at the end of the universe and the human race, the strongest bond is still our love for our mothers
I mean it is a robot intentionally given the intellect of a child, that thinks a fairy can make it real. I don’t think they’re going to sit around explaining the difference between a clone and the original. I’m pretty sure it’s just a program they’re running in his detached head and the “one day” thing is just a lie because they feel bad for him but don’t want to be running some pity program 24/7 forever.
5 months ago
Anonymous
What's up with this movie and people making up headcanons about the ending? The alien guy straight up tells him they can put Monica's memories in a clone.
I like to believe he didn't die. Making him die after he completed his purpose as a machine goes against the theme of the film of him becoming human. While it's true that dying is an universal human experience, also is growing up and outliving the people you love.
It's a retelling of Pinocchio, magic has to go somewhere.
I honestly don't see what is so offensive by this movie, but perhaps that's just because now every mobie that comes out is several orders of magnitude worse making this shit seems almost good by comparison.
I had always been under the impression that the last bit was added by Spielberg but I've been reliably informed recently that it was actually part of Kubrick's original vision for the film.
But I don't understand why he would choose to end the story like that. It's bullshit. A.I. was Kubrick's dream project that he'd been working on it for nearly 30 years so I would suspect that the scene was there for a very specific reason because otherwise it just seems rather silly. Like why was Monica not wondering where a husband and son were? Why could she only be brought back for one day?
>Like why was Monica not wondering where a husband and son were? Why could she only be brought back for one day?
The future robots specifically told David that he couldn't mention a lot of topics or it would short circuit Monica.
I can't believe Kubrick is still filtering Black folk even when he doesn't direct the movie
did none of you robotic artists ever read the velveteen rabbit growing up?
Something that's weird about this movie is that David does display 1 real human trait in the movie: idolatry or religiosity, because he desires a wish from the blue fairy and prostrates before her in the form of a statue. That's not something a robot would really do. It's why the robots in the future create their own blue fairy to grant his wish instead of just doing it normally. He needs that blue fairy for whatever reason. There is also a lot of religious iconography throughout the movie in the background which leads me to believe this was an intentional theme put in the movie by Kubrick.
If Kubrick had been alive to direct this movie it would have been such a masterpiece, but Spielberg ruined it with the happy ending. It was supposed to be dark and nihilistic. The ending was completely out of place.
He got his wish, but what was his wish? A pre-programmed action that he was created to do. It didn't come from his own tuition and longing because he's just a robot, a very primitive one by the end of the film.
Should've ended with him stuck on repeat in the bottom of the ocean, but that'd take Kubrick size balls.
Spielberg said Kubrick's original story always had a 2000 year timeskip. It never ended under the sea (also the last day with his mom is the best scene in the movie)
That's sort of what I thought but the end of the film kinda shows that he's just doing what he was coded to do. I suppose the journey was more important than the end though, like how he has to go through "adulthood" in a way by exploring the sex city filled with prostitutes
They were future humans not aliens
starts out as interesting, realistic robot sci-fi
>>ends with magical aliens
>They were future humans not aliens
>This movie made my stomach hurt. What was the point? This fake child is built solely to need a mother’s love and is forever tortured by not receiving it?
didnt watch the movie but isnt that the plot to ergo proxy?
No, ergo proxy is about orbital humans returning after they left robots to clean the planet up, so Wall-e or Nier automata.
i dont remember the robutts having a very practical job. it was some philosophical thing about filling in as the role of humanity until the humans actually return
I thought they needed the human waste products to make stuff.
they were advance robots, you dingus
The humans died out while the robots began to build better robots; leading up to what we see in the end.
Yeah Spielberg isn’t good at sci-fi.
Also my main memory of that film was being afraid I was a robot because my mom used to pull the car over and leave me in the middle of nowhere all the time.
I was not the brightest kid.
She was not a good mother, this is a scare that will never heal
Why would she even do that in the first place? We know he's a robot and she clearly cares about him but then why not just destroy him instead of leaving him to rot in the woods
Humans abandon pets on the side of the road all the time and convince themselves the pets will be fine even when they understand that the pet will either get hit by a car or die miserably.
She didn't want him around, but had enough affection for him that he didn't want to be responsible for destroying him directly.
Based OP keeping the moronic meme alive
It’s actually insane that this came out in 2001. That looks so good.
when cgi was done by professional studios full of white men
>when cgi was done by professional studios full of israeli men
FTFY
115 average IQ. thats the same as the gap between whites and blacks. its not even fair
>Is your IQ higher than normal:
>[o]Yes
>[ ]No
right, i forgot everyone on Cinemaphile has a minimum 150 IQ
Looks better than the creator
Futuristic aliens are far more plausible than an animatronic boy being used for anything other than sex
they weren't aliens you moron. unbelievable how much this movie filters people after 20 years
movie sucks my butthole, it's like every gay crybaby scene in hook and war of the worlds with zero fun allowed.
I thought they were supposed to be distantly advanced robots
They were.
This movie was based
flat fact
Come away, O human child!
To the waters and the wild
With a faery, hand in hand,
For the world's more full of weeping than you can understand.
Cope
OH MY GOD MONICA
?t=25
This movie made my stomach hurt. What was the point? This fake child is built solely to need a mother’s love and is forever tortured by not receiving it? And the “good” ending is after a million years aliens are able to flash clone his mom who rejected him and died millions of years ago, but she will only live for a day?
I’m of the feeling that any robot movie, the robot is always just an object within the story, no matter how human it pretends to be or is made to be. I think believing that a robot is human and deserves rights to be a bizarre and crypto anti human thing. It feels like some conspiracy theory programming thing for normies.
Very true, which is why I always have trouble buying any 'are robots actually humans?' themed media.
>I think believing that a robot is human and deserves rights to be a bizarre and crypto anti human thing
What exactly do you think this movie explores? Never once do they establish that David is akin to a human or even a moral creation
>Never once do they establish that David is akin to a human or even a moral creation
I haven’t watched it in a while so forgive me if I’m not totally right, but the whole thing was a “I’m a real boy” Sci fi pinnochio thing. There’s even the Flesh Fare scene, where people destroy robots for fun to assert that they are just objects and not human, but the whole crowd calls for David to be freed because they think he’s a real little boy. The guy running it even gives a speech about him just being an advance copy of a child, but he’s not a real child and should be destroyed. The movie ends with him going to the factory he was made at and angrily destroying other David’s before the scientist says he’s “special” and super advance because he can really feel love or something, and the movie ends with him wishing a fairy turns him into a real boy. Throughout the entire movie, it’s making you feel for him too, as an entity deserving of love and respect and not just a machine.
Yeah, but he isn't. The whole point of the ending is that he's doing what he was programmed to do, be with his mother. It's not actual love or emotion. The robots granted him his wish because he was the precursor to their designs and they're just letting do what he was built to do. It's not a happy ending
Anon it’s about children with shitty parents and the AI stuff is just a framing device.
>What was the point?
It's bittersweet. The kid becomes human because the robots that find him at the end are so advanced that for them he could as well be a real human, since he's the closest thing to a human left on earth.
What aliens? Pretty sure those are advanced AI robots whose predecessors survived and thrived (or possibly even left the earth) after the extinction of mankind.
Robot oppression in media is generally used as an allegory for racism. But like most attempts at racism allegories in fiction, they don't make much sense on their own and ironically justify IRL racism.
>omg humans are le evil for not treating their own creations (which they could've chosen not to create, much less give them feelings) as equal to them, just like IRL racists guys!
>omg humans are le evil for trying to prevent mutants with literal super powers capable of causing mass destruction from causing mass destruction, just like IRL racists guys!
Im sure you have autism
this, every movie with robots like this tries to make you feel like the robots are people because they have emotions, but really you're just expected to believe that they have emotions just because they act like it.
spielberg fault for following with kubrick original ending
The point is that you shouldn't care about the robots at all; the folks in the flesh fair were right that they were all ultimately just automatons.
>This fake child is built solely to need a mother’s love and is forever tortured by not receiving it? And the “good” ending is after a million years aliens are able to flash clone his mom who rejected him and died millions of years ago, but she will only live for a day?
He became human or as close to human as it gets by the end of the story and gains his wish to see his mom one last time. Super robots were a way of doing it but it was presented poorly and should have been put in a more abstract light
I think it’s interesting that this is the only robot movie I can think of where the sex boy character is a man and not a woman
What was the implied ending? He became a real boy because he was permitted to die?
I’m not sure, but this movie just makes me appreciate my mother and when I think about the ending scene I feel the need to call her and tell her I love her.
I think this movie was born out of Kubricks mommy issues
That’s good. Mine died years ago so sad mother stuff doesn’t hit me anymore.
The ending puts things in perspective. Through the movie humans treat him as "lesser" than them because he's a machine, but the robots from the future have progressed so far beyond humanity that to them David is basically a human.
show its like when white people visit Cinemaphile?
youre right i looked it up. the proxies themselves are to fix the plant but rule over the other robots and humans like gods. also i just now realized after reading the wiki that re-l wasnt a robot but was a human the whole time
Right. But is it implied that he dies, which is very human like?
Unironically I interpreted the ending literally, as in David became capable of dreaming.
I’ve always taken away that maybe he got his wish, he became real enough to die. The bringing back his mother for a day thing, for some reason, applied to him too.
I never liked the interpretation that he died at the end. Not only because I felt like people wanted to make the ending darker than it needed to be, but also because it would be incoherent for the super robots to let David die. He was like the holy grail for them.
I think you could maybe safely assume that they had already revived him many times and run whatever tests and knowledge extraction they wanted, and that when we see him brought to the last time it’s because they wiped all of that and gave that one day as his “last” day before filing it all away as a sort of act of grace and thanks to him, like tidying up an in-game house and laying the character on a bed before shutting it down the last time you play it.
He didn't become a real boy any more than Monica became a real mother. He got a fake copy of her designed only to please him.
Didn't the robots summon Monica's soul into the present for a day?
Robots can't do anything with a human soul. It left their plain of existence 2000 years prior. All they could do was make a simulation of her based on her hair (dna or something).
No. They explain they have dominion over time and can literally bring her back, but just for a day.
Then they wouldn't have needed the hair.
?t=300
There's one thing I don't get. They said they experimented with bringing people back to life, but they would die after just one day and they could never be brought back again. But with whom did they experiment then? It couldn't be Monica, or else they couldn't have brought her back again for David. But I don't think they had DNA from anyone else.
There's no reason to think all the DNA from humans was destroyed in the 2000 years since David sinks, since we can find intact DNA from animals that were frozen in the wild thousands of years ago.
My head canon is that by the time the met David they had already developed that technology and had tried to bring humans back without success. It's more believable than that they found a way to extract information from the time continuum just to please David.
this movie fricked me up as a kid because of this ending. i cried a lot. just the idea of being at the end of the universe and the human race, the strongest bond is still our love for our mothers
I mean it is a robot intentionally given the intellect of a child, that thinks a fairy can make it real. I don’t think they’re going to sit around explaining the difference between a clone and the original. I’m pretty sure it’s just a program they’re running in his detached head and the “one day” thing is just a lie because they feel bad for him but don’t want to be running some pity program 24/7 forever.
What's up with this movie and people making up headcanons about the ending? The alien guy straight up tells him they can put Monica's memories in a clone.
The aliens did.
I like to believe he didn't die. Making him die after he completed his purpose as a machine goes against the theme of the film of him becoming human. While it's true that dying is an universal human experience, also is growing up and outliving the people you love.
AI is one of the most depressing movies ever made.
You need to see Plague Dogs.
No contest.
It's a retelling of Pinocchio, magic has to go somewhere.
I honestly don't see what is so offensive by this movie, but perhaps that's just because now every mobie that comes out is several orders of magnitude worse making this shit seems almost good by comparison.
>CGI better than any movie in the last decade
>started by Kubrick
>divisive plot twist
>brings grown men to tears at the end
Yeah I'm thinking it's the best ~~*Spielberg*~~ movie.
grown men to tears at the end
It truly does, but it's manipulative because it's made by a israelite.
that ending bros . It was really hard not to cry...
Why do people still think they are aliens when Spielberg himself said they are advanced robots?
I had always been under the impression that the last bit was added by Spielberg but I've been reliably informed recently that it was actually part of Kubrick's original vision for the film.
But I don't understand why he would choose to end the story like that. It's bullshit. A.I. was Kubrick's dream project that he'd been working on it for nearly 30 years so I would suspect that the scene was there for a very specific reason because otherwise it just seems rather silly. Like why was Monica not wondering where a husband and son were? Why could she only be brought back for one day?
The shitty Disney ending ruined the movie.
It's only Disney if you're a moron. The ending is disturbing at the very least.
>Like why was Monica not wondering where a husband and son were? Why could she only be brought back for one day?
The future robots specifically told David that he couldn't mention a lot of topics or it would short circuit Monica.
It’s a flawless movie except for one scene with Chris Rock that ruins the tone of the movie
But that scene is great because of the old robot who keeps babbling about how he could still be useful except that his light is broken.
I can't believe Kubrick is still filtering Black folk even when he doesn't direct the movie
did none of you robotic artists ever read the velveteen rabbit growing up?
>did none of you robotic artists ever read the velveteen rabbit growing up?
I think about that story a lot. It really inspired me as a kid.
Something that's weird about this movie is that David does display 1 real human trait in the movie: idolatry or religiosity, because he desires a wish from the blue fairy and prostrates before her in the form of a statue. That's not something a robot would really do. It's why the robots in the future create their own blue fairy to grant his wish instead of just doing it normally. He needs that blue fairy for whatever reason. There is also a lot of religious iconography throughout the movie in the background which leads me to believe this was an intentional theme put in the movie by Kubrick.
Should've ended with him stuck on repeat in the bottom of the ocean, but that'd take Kubrick size balls.
If Kubrick had been alive to direct this movie it would have been such a masterpiece, but Spielberg ruined it with the happy ending. It was supposed to be dark and nihilistic. The ending was completely out of place.
Clueless brainlet. That WAS Kubrick's ending and it's not happy at all.
>it's not happy at all
How is it not happy? His wish literally comes to pass. Bullshit for kids.
He got his wish, but what was his wish? A pre-programmed action that he was created to do. It didn't come from his own tuition and longing because he's just a robot, a very primitive one by the end of the film.
Spielberg said Kubrick's original story always had a 2000 year timeskip. It never ended under the sea (also the last day with his mom is the best scene in the movie)
Everybody completely misses the future robots obsession with how people lived in the past, Just like us.
They became us.
>That scene where he tries to commit suicide by jumping out the window after discovering it was all an experiment and he isnt unique
Jesus christ
does that mean he was really sentient to some degree
He was, in the sense that they let his code run on and on and develop itself in a way that none of the other kidbots he encountered could.
That's sort of what I thought but the end of the film kinda shows that he's just doing what he was coded to do. I suppose the journey was more important than the end though, like how he has to go through "adulthood" in a way by exploring the sex city filled with prostitutes
The company abandons the project before they make any more of the kidbots go through the same trials so he's a unique being.
>A.I. Artificial Intelligence 2001
Literally Astro Boy, but without Dr. Tenma.
>starts off as a garbage film and ends like a garbage film
frick spielberg
Armond White claims this is the best movie of our time
This fricking movie man
Underrated, definately.
>definately
ITT people not getting the message of even one day of happiness being worth of living for.