Money laundering.
Tighter budgets mean you have to actually use the funds to make the movie. You can't just lose 70% of the budget between the floorboards, because then you won't have a movie.
CG looks worse than props because most CG is done in sweatshop conditions with extreme time limits now. Props also cost a great deal more now than they did in the 90s.
That cgi desert battle everyone memes about is confirmed to have only been added into the movie like 3 months before release, more than a year after principal photography had wrapped. It was a rushed, slapped-together scene added at the last minute because some studio exec demanded the movie have more action in it, which is why it looks so hideous
Part2 seems to have much better storyboarded and directed action based on the trailers
CG looks worse than props because most CG is done in sweatshop conditions with extreme time limits now. Props also cost a great deal more now than they did in the 90s.
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That cgi desert battle everyone memes about is confirmed to have only been added into the movie like 3 months before release, more than a year after principal photography had wrapped. It was a rushed, slapped-together scene added at the last minute because some studio exec demanded the movie have more action in it, which is why it looks so hideous
Part2 seems to have much better storyboarded and directed action based on the trailers
its a trailer shot so they shit it out for the trailer and then were like meh its good enough
Godzilla Minus One was made for less than $15M and looked way better than the piece of shit movies that Marvel puts out. The story and characters were great as well.
>Hollywood accounting (also known as Hollywood bookkeeping) is the opaque or creative set of accounting methods used by the film, video, television and music industry to budget and record profits for creative projects. Expenditures can be inflated to reduce or eliminate the reported profit of the project, thereby reducing the amount which the corporation must pay in taxes and royalties or other profit-sharing agreements, as these are based on net profit.
>the slow blade penetrates the shield
So do a myriad of other projectiles they had available to them. They also didn't use shields anywhere a worm could show up lmao. It was gay bullshit the whole time.
What a dumbass. Experts can become corrupt easily, when they have carte blanche to spend taxpayers money as part of a military industrial complex and the notorious CIA-FBI rogue regime. Waving around the "expert" card just pretends all professional licenses have to be periodically renewed + their actual work plus progress results AUDITED. Then again, gays never held Fauci accountable for misleading them during AIDS, they are eager sheep for the slaughter.
Weren't the pro-science crowd all for sending people to camps, denying them employment and services, and outright claiming they should be arrested simply they're weren't vaccinated?
All because the scientists who were were funded by the corporations who developed these vaccines and corrupt politicians told them to?
Today, literally 95% of Americans haven't kept up with the boosters and vaccine shots because they all know now it was all BS. This guy seriously wants to be associated with those "people"?
>Today, literally 95% of Americans haven't kept up with the boosters and vaccine shots because they all know now it was all BS
This is all the proof you need, all the raging "TRUST THE SCIENCE CHUDLORD" I know have not gotten a single booster since they stopped being mandatory, even though they're free and easy to get. What happened? I guess we'll never know.
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The disease became less dangerous, rather than more dangerous. Purely by nature's chance.
Verification not required.
4 months ago
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>The disease became less dangerous, rather than more dangerous.
that's why we need to develop a new one to keep the chuds in line
personal shields has made firearms and lasers mostly redundant in infantry combat, they still exist but are used in specialized roles rather than being the go-to
Frank Herbert wanted combat in Dune to be intimate and a contest between the will of individuals so he wrote bullshit to justify why people are fighting with swords rather than guns
>Frank Herbert wanted combat in Dune to be intimate and a contest between the will of individuals so he wrote bullshit to justify why people are fighting with swords rather than guns
They could just use guns that fire a projectile that itself is a gun-like tube to fire backwards and slow down before hitting the shield, with the payload itself being explosive.
that's what dart guns and maula pistols do, and in the movie we see artillery that "drills" through the shields of the atreides ships before exploding after it passes through
>I think he just wanted to make a space swordfighting story.
This is the only real answer, I think he uses The Great Jihad as a way to set his story in a space fantasy world with swords, shields and lasers while getting around those newfangled computers that just started popping up back in the 60's. Plus, I find it a more interesting "what if" future than say Star Wars or Star Trek. Thinking that tens of thousands of years from now computers are illegal and hand to hand combat is supreme is pretty cool.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Movie had zero balls by calling it a religious war instead of jihad.
4 months ago
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meh, without the context of zensufi, it's irrelevant
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The Buterlian Jihad isn't even mentioned in the movie, it's fine though, because really the only reason it's talked about at all in the book is that it's a plot device to justify why Spice is necessary and that's not really information that a general filmgoing audience really needs
considering all the dumb shit that Brian and KJA did with the Jihad and framing it at as a terminator war againstt skynet because they're dumb morons whose minds are governed entirely by cliches makes me wish Frank had just never conceived of the Jihad at all lol
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What was the cause of the Butlerian Jihad if not AI getting out of line?
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humans were becoming complacent and stupid and their minds became entirely governed by what computers told them to do, so someone issued a fatwa against computer usage as haram and then waged a mass war to destroy them all. It was NOT about humans banding together to defeat Skynet
The Ixian machines that allow the universe to get off its dependancy on spice is a core part of Leto II's Golden Path to elevate humanity to spiritual godhood; he explicitly tells Siona out in the desert that computers themselves are not the issue, it was that overdependence on them makes us intellectually and spiritually lazy
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>it was that overdependence on them makes us intellectually and spiritually lazy
Uhh yikes what a boomer. "What if computah but too much" lmao
4 months ago
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it's a better idea than "don't use computer because it might turn into the terminator and kill you xD"
4 months ago
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That's happening IRL though, zoomers get withdrawal symptoms equivalent to the ones that crack addicts get when they lose access to their phone and internet
in the books a lasguns hitting a shield causes an unstable reaction that causes an huge explosion at both ends of the laser, meaning lasguns can only be used in limited circumstances
Yeah thats like the whole reason you rarely see lasers and when you do its a big deal. Because if they hit a shield its like a giga nuke going off and nuclear weapons are banned harder than AI and whoever set it off would get collectively space raped repeatedly until nothing was left.
Are you implying that if ONE random moron walked to this scene and shot a laser on this army's general direction all of them would die?
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>ONE random moron walked to this scene and shot a laser on this army's general direction all of them would die?
Yes. Super dead. Hilariously dead. That's why its such a huge deal to see them and why they were all shitting their pants when they showed up.
4 months ago
Anonymous
That sounds incredibly moronic and it would most likely make shields obsolete instead of lasers
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>That sounds incredibly moronic and it would most likely make shields obsolete instead of lasers
I'd agree but it also helped reinforce the restraints that the colonized universe were willing to impose on themselves.
see
Part of Dune is there are rules which everybody accepted, eg, no computers, no robots, no space battles, no nukes. You disobey, fine, you get cut off from the galactic economy, you get cut off from Space Heroin (which means you slowly and painfully die), plus attacking you for sport is now legal.
Also Dune has religion so after you die you will go to hell.
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Yeah it makes zero sense.
He could have just said that lasers don't penetrate shields and be done with it
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Are you implying that if ONE random moron walked to this scene and shot a laser on this army's general direction all of them would die?
If I remember the book correctly, the shooter may just die without killing the army (the rifle explodes, but not the shield). Or both can explode like a nuclear bomb.
It is not certain which will happen. So they are not just shooting at shields.
Also, if you are found to shoot at shields or use atomics - everyone will gang up to destroy you.
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Problem is that it's incredibly easy to use a laser without revealing who shoots it. Especially if the laser itself is nuked as well
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Laser rifles are not terribly easy to smuggle between planets in a feudal society, where the nobles do not control space travel.
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This is a major point. The economy and government totally depend on space travel and one organization enjoys a total monopoly on space travel, so pissing them off means you get cut off from society.
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You're not grasping that it's not a matter of >oopsie doodles, I guess there's no evidence either way ;^)
They're not going to just examine the site and throw their hands up in the air, they're going to get mentats to look at literally everything related to the event and send in the Sardukaur to let whoever is responsible know how badly they have fricked up.
If the emperor or landsraad suspect you of pulling that shit, you are capital F fricked because nobody ever wants to be on the receiving end of it and will turn a blind eye to whatever happens to your house.
That's in the absolute best case scenario of local evidence being erased, too. If someone gambles everything on a catastrophic double explosion and ends up with a small event that does pretty much frick all, they've just painted a galactic sized target on their backs for literally no gain.
4 months ago
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Who gives a frick, just nuke the emperor too, nuke the psychic dudes too, it's literally free
4 months ago
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Spacing guild has limited prescience and a vested interest in the status quo. They would know full well if a lunatic was planning on nuking everything and take steps to prevent it, most likely by just stranding whoever is dumb enough to try
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It's not a key point of the book but it's impossible to justify. It's possible to send a laser to anywhere, with enough plausible deniability that it isn't yours.
In Dune everyone is constantly fricking each other on a galactic scale, but boo hoo someone didn't stick to the Geneva convention so I need to go out and help my 500 enemies? Lmao
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Everyone is fricking each other in ways they can counter, not randomly wiping each other off the face of the planet because the houses have methods of MAD and the spacing guild can and will utterly skullfrick anybody that threatens the status quo.
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Someone will be happy to help the emperor and be rewarded with even more resources to screw you up.
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They are fricking each other but they all abide to certain rules, nobody builds fricking AI or tries to undermine CHOAM because that's asking to get your whole planet vaporized
>It's possible to send a laser to anywhere
It's only possible in the sense that it maybe could be done if spacing guild pretended to be dumb or suddenly all their equipment malfunctioned and prescients became blind. The instant you try to smuggle anything you get stranded on your planet and await for emperor to pass his judgement. It's not fricking star wars, people don't just fly around the galaxy.
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It still seems like a crippling flaw of design, what if random Joe Doe gets fed up with his shitty job of sucking dicks and decides to steal a laser and shoot someone? The laser wouldn't be the problem, but the shield
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>, but boo hoo someone didn't stick to the Geneva convention so I need to go out and help my 500 enemies? Lmao
Yes. Everyone's in on the game. The little pissy wars between the Great Houses don't mean anything substantial. The empire is stagnant by design, a man like Duke Leto is dangerous because he has your mindset. >why should the emperor be the only one with a halfway decent army?
But even he can't conceptualize a way around the technical "gotcha" of laser-shield-nukes, because it's been literal millenia since anyone has even bothered to examine the problem outside the context of keeping the imperium going exactly as it has been. This is why Paul is even more dangerous than his father Leto, and Leto II more dangerous than Paul, because they're not interested in the game that the rest of the great houses are.
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It really isn't.
If you somehow managed to fool everyone it's still enough that a bene gesserit would ask you >did you do it anon
Or some fricking oracle would see you doing that and ordered your assassination way before.
4 months ago
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Yes. Including the person who fired the shot, because it causes feedback on both ends
4 months ago
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That sounds even better, just use a remote trigger and the evidence gets nuked as well, hell just talk a moron who doesn't know about the nuke effect, hell just bribe a moron from another house who doesn't know about the laser nukes into killing itself AND ruining the enemy house
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Yes. Major theme of Dune is that humanity now has godlike power and they use religion and law to not accidentally blow themselves up.
in the books a lasguns hitting a shield causes an unstable reaction that causes an huge explosion at both ends of the laser, meaning lasguns can only be used in limited circumstances
Yeah thats like the whole reason you rarely see lasers and when you do its a big deal. Because if they hit a shield its like a giga nuke going off and nuclear weapons are banned harder than AI and whoever set it off would get collectively space raped repeatedly until nothing was left.
Part of Dune is there are rules which everybody accepted, eg, no computers, no robots, no space battles, no nukes. You disobey, fine, you get cut off from the galactic economy, you get cut off from Space Heroin (which means you slowly and painfully die), plus attacking you for sport is now legal.
Also Dune has religion so after you die you will go to hell.
>no computers, no robots
It's just no thinking machines. Computers are fine just no AI and robots are also fine just not androids.
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If "computers" are fine then why do they use Guild navigators?
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>first scene of every edition of dune >paul using a computer to learn about 'rakis
remain angry
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That's not a computer, it's a recording. It's essentially a tape player.
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>why do they use Guild navigators?
Because space magic? Guild navigators can see in the future and pick out the one that gets the ship where its supposed to go in one piece. I dont think computers could do that without being so advanced as to be considered "thinking".
But I doubt there was that much thought put into it other than space magic spice important logic.
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>I doubt there was that much thought put into it >implying Frank didn't put in the work
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He didn't when it came to the space magic. It was absolutely his weakness.
>Send unmarked Walmart droid with a laser into enemy capital >Laser a random shield from 20 miles away >whole place nuked, nobody knows it's you
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>walmart bought out by CHOAM, who registers and lojacks every droid
huh wonder why your droid suddenly disappeared at the gun-side epicenter of the blast
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>buy a wallmart drone >put a shield on it >give it a laser gun >make it fly on top of the enemy's army and then force it to shoot itself >enemy army is dead >no way to know who owned the drone either
Armies mean jackshit in a setting like thid
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Yeah absolutely, the laser/shield/gun shenanigans are so dumb. Not a huge part of the story but very avoidable.
>Just write it so that lasers don't work against shields
Bam solved half of the shield problems
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Just shoot the shield point blank and you get 2 nukes for the price of one
200 million was not spent on that shot. Maybe like 4 hours of outsourced minimum wage work to India made this shot and the hundreds of millions was spent on paying the actors and vials of child blood to drink.
As long as these hooknoses keep receiving federal bailouts from these bombs they will keep making them. And they will keep making them because the media is just another wing of government, nothing to do with entertainment.
35mm vs digital killed the colors. I also feel modern lenses are absolute garbo. Look at any RED raw footage, its a joke, it looks like a iphone video you made at clear daylight. Color corrction is literall a must now.
Now compare this shit to Lawrnce of Arabia or Blade Runner. Im slowly understanding Tarantinos obsession with film. Digital looks like pure aids.
You dont get my point, film looks immediatl yliek film, while digital will always look like a made for tv movie. It has this uncanny cheap look to it. Now add IMAX ratio and you dont even have the widescreen bars anymore and it even looks more like a made for tv movie.
Frick you. You “DUH WHAT ARE THESE BLACK BAHS?” homosexuals literally caused “Full Screen” edits cutting off 2/3rds of the movie to be the norm. Frick. You.
>defending black rectangles on the screen
do milennials really?
Go back to your 4:3 tvs, grandpa.
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Grandpa? Your post makes no sense, it’s the Grampas that caused the 4:3 full screen edits to exist because the bars on the screen made them go insaaaaane
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Frick you. You “DUH WHAT ARE THESE BLACK BAHS?” homosexuals literally caused “Full Screen” edits cutting off 2/3rds of the movie to be the norm. Frick. You.
>comparing a DVD tv version to the widescreen theatrical one
Unions. Literally no other reason. Look at indie and low budget movies. They don't use unions, many have fairly good effects despite low budgets and many have very good writing and sometimes acting. Unions have a mandated minimum pay for everything and it causes Hollywood movies to have bloated budgets just for basic shit like mic operators and the lighting guy. Add that some actors have absurd salary costs and you now have half or more of the budget going to just a few people.
lmao @ ur life. One of the main reasons there was such a huge shift from practical effects to CGI is because the old hollywood production houses were all unionized because they had existed since the 1920s, meanwhile CGI sweatshop houses will just make whatever the costcutting studio exec wants with no fuss
They gotta find a way to cut down these budgets are else blockbuster movies are fricked. It's just not feasible to expect these movies to turn a profit regularly.
Only one 2023 movie with a $200 million+ budget turned a profit last year, GotG3.
>They gotta find a way to cut down these budgets are else blockbuster movies are fricked.
Same thing with video games, 1 AAA title per studio per generation costing $200 million isn't sustainable
>1 AAA title per studio per generation costing $200 million isn't sustainable
It is because moronic zoomers keep buying Nicki Minaj skins with their moms' credit card.
They have to pay all of those diversity hires on set and the nepotism doesn't help either.There are so many sons and cousins that need a comfy job eventhough they are all incompetent.
Black folk
I'll be the one to say he's right.
Women
Jews
It looks cheap because it's a dream. The real thing will look great, just you see.
So what makes DUNC so special that it won't flop?
Interstellar ten years ago. Guess we gave up on CGI.
looks like someone took close up off soap water and then added distortion effect to it on microsoft movie maker.
mmh very creative, props to the director and vfx artists
>they look cheaper than a midbuget
yes
Yes. If this was made in the 90s you could have just painted someone's arms blue and it would've looked better.
Dune is "relatively" cheap. Dune2 was made for $120 million as opposed to the average Marvelslop that costs $250 million
Money laundering.
Tighter budgets mean you have to actually use the funds to make the movie. You can't just lose 70% of the budget between the floorboards, because then you won't have a movie.
Uhm no sweaty, it's supposed to look cheaper actually.
I wouldn't explain, I would listen. And that's what nobody did.
But if they listened then nobody would have heard and that’s what nobody considered.
>they look cheaper than a midbuget 90s flick
No they don't.
>I'm ready for my closeup Mr. Dillanoov
That background is shit as frick. So is the armor.
Had no idea Chris Christie was in movies
No one else acknowledged it in this thread, but you're funny. Keep doing what you do.
it's not even money, it is time
some shots simply needs more time and attention but they never get the time because of time constraints
That cgi desert battle everyone memes about is confirmed to have only been added into the movie like 3 months before release, more than a year after principal photography had wrapped. It was a rushed, slapped-together scene added at the last minute because some studio exec demanded the movie have more action in it, which is why it looks so hideous
Part2 seems to have much better storyboarded and directed action based on the trailers
that guy whose every movie ppl seem like they are grey blobs floating in an monochrome indistinct mass? he's not doing that this time, promise
So it was the israelites, again.
CG looks worse than props because most CG is done in sweatshop conditions with extreme time limits now. Props also cost a great deal more now than they did in the 90s.
its a trailer shot so they shit it out for the trailer and then were like meh its good enough
That CCP money ain't gunna launder itself
Dune 2: Rise of the Spice is the only movie I’m looking forward to this year. Just want to see a ridiculously powerful Paul
for me it's Dune 5: Ice Spice, where arrakis freezes over
>Dune 2: Rise of the Spice
please tell me thast not what its actually called..
how about
Dune: Resurrection
all female DUNC reboot: Spice Girls
I wish it was called that
DUNC 0: Origins
>Yueh is caught in a love triangle at suk school
>Jessica has to choose between Leto and Jamal
>Young transgirl becomes a guild navigator
kino
DUNC awakening
DUNC: Spice to Meet You, a Love Letter to Dune
What about Joker: Folie à Deux?
Yeah I guess.
The sound effects they gave to his gigachad voice is LOL
It's not a new thing, studios are always prone to mismanaging money. Polar Express' budget was $170m and it looks hideous
IP licensing
Actors
Depending on the case, location
Godzilla Minus One was made for less than $15M and looked way better than the piece of shit movies that Marvel puts out. The story and characters were great as well.
Jews.
Ever wonder why boomers and so forth are crazy about israelites? In their day israelites actually helped society and made excellent products.
Long gone days, never to return.
All israelites are filth and must be neutralized.
DUNE: Its Worm Time
coming soon
I loved the moment where he burped the worm all over the audience
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting
>Hollywood accounting (also known as Hollywood bookkeeping) is the opaque or creative set of accounting methods used by the film, video, television and music industry to budget and record profits for creative projects. Expenditures can be inflated to reduce or eliminate the reported profit of the project, thereby reducing the amount which the corporation must pay in taxes and royalties or other profit-sharing agreements, as these are based on net profit.
Is this DUNC or Wonder Woah-man 1984? Didn't that sloped-back five-head pea-brainlet Galaga Dot have that same gold armor?
top kek
200m is average.
imagine how kino it would be if they put Al Pacino in the movie
Don't mind if they do!
Why do they use knives?
the slow blade penetrates the shield
only the penitent man shall pass
>are we rolling yet? i wonder where i left my phone
>the slow blade penetrates the shield
So do a myriad of other projectiles they had available to them. They also didn't use shields anywhere a worm could show up lmao. It was gay bullshit the whole time.
you're just jelly of frank's talent
>you're just jelly of frank's talent
Whats that got to do with this moronic movie? Frank is a good author. Always has been.
What a dumbass. Experts can become corrupt easily, when they have carte blanche to spend taxpayers money as part of a military industrial complex and the notorious CIA-FBI rogue regime. Waving around the "expert" card just pretends all professional licenses have to be periodically renewed + their actual work plus progress results AUDITED. Then again, gays never held Fauci accountable for misleading them during AIDS, they are eager sheep for the slaughter.
>if you're against artist that means you're a science denier
>Zero reading comprehension
>I should be trusted to be unbiased on a topic where my livelihood is at stake
Lmao. AI is coming for everyone eventually but graphical artists really got overrun in record time. The seething is unreal
Weren't the pro-science crowd all for sending people to camps, denying them employment and services, and outright claiming they should be arrested simply they're weren't vaccinated?
All because the scientists who were were funded by the corporations who developed these vaccines and corrupt politicians told them to?
Today, literally 95% of Americans haven't kept up with the boosters and vaccine shots because they all know now it was all BS. This guy seriously wants to be associated with those "people"?
>Today, literally 95% of Americans haven't kept up with the boosters and vaccine shots because they all know now it was all BS
This is all the proof you need, all the raging "TRUST THE SCIENCE CHUDLORD" I know have not gotten a single booster since they stopped being mandatory, even though they're free and easy to get. What happened? I guess we'll never know.
The disease became less dangerous, rather than more dangerous. Purely by nature's chance.
Verification not required.
>The disease became less dangerous, rather than more dangerous.
that's why we need to develop a new one to keep the chuds in line
personal shields has made firearms and lasers mostly redundant in infantry combat, they still exist but are used in specialized roles rather than being the go-to
Frank Herbert wanted combat in Dune to be intimate and a contest between the will of individuals so he wrote bullshit to justify why people are fighting with swords rather than guns
>upgrade the shield so it now detects slow objects
>everybody is invincible now
This would simply make flamethrowers the default weapon
>Frank Herbert wanted combat in Dune to be intimate and a contest between the will of individuals so he wrote bullshit to justify why people are fighting with swords rather than guns
This.
They could just use guns that fire a projectile that itself is a gun-like tube to fire backwards and slow down before hitting the shield, with the payload itself being explosive.
This could be developed today if there was a need
that's what dart guns and maula pistols do, and in the movie we see artillery that "drills" through the shields of the atreides ships before exploding after it passes through
The question is why didn't everyone just use those all the time, and I think he just wanted to make a space swordfighting story.
>I think he just wanted to make a space swordfighting story.
This is the only real answer, I think he uses The Great Jihad as a way to set his story in a space fantasy world with swords, shields and lasers while getting around those newfangled computers that just started popping up back in the 60's. Plus, I find it a more interesting "what if" future than say Star Wars or Star Trek. Thinking that tens of thousands of years from now computers are illegal and hand to hand combat is supreme is pretty cool.
Movie had zero balls by calling it a religious war instead of jihad.
meh, without the context of zensufi, it's irrelevant
The Buterlian Jihad isn't even mentioned in the movie, it's fine though, because really the only reason it's talked about at all in the book is that it's a plot device to justify why Spice is necessary and that's not really information that a general filmgoing audience really needs
considering all the dumb shit that Brian and KJA did with the Jihad and framing it at as a terminator war againstt skynet because they're dumb morons whose minds are governed entirely by cliches makes me wish Frank had just never conceived of the Jihad at all lol
What was the cause of the Butlerian Jihad if not AI getting out of line?
humans were becoming complacent and stupid and their minds became entirely governed by what computers told them to do, so someone issued a fatwa against computer usage as haram and then waged a mass war to destroy them all. It was NOT about humans banding together to defeat Skynet
The Ixian machines that allow the universe to get off its dependancy on spice is a core part of Leto II's Golden Path to elevate humanity to spiritual godhood; he explicitly tells Siona out in the desert that computers themselves are not the issue, it was that overdependence on them makes us intellectually and spiritually lazy
>it was that overdependence on them makes us intellectually and spiritually lazy
Uhh yikes what a boomer. "What if computah but too much" lmao
it's a better idea than "don't use computer because it might turn into the terminator and kill you xD"
That's happening IRL though, zoomers get withdrawal symptoms equivalent to the ones that crack addicts get when they lose access to their phone and internet
That's the joke
Also the idea that lasers turn a shield into a nuke doesn't seem like it would hold the faction using the laser back at all
>laser turn shield into a nuke
Beg your pardon?
Are you implying that if ONE random moron walked to this scene and shot a laser on this army's general direction all of them would die?
>ONE random moron walked to this scene and shot a laser on this army's general direction all of them would die?
Yes. Super dead. Hilariously dead. That's why its such a huge deal to see them and why they were all shitting their pants when they showed up.
That sounds incredibly moronic and it would most likely make shields obsolete instead of lasers
>That sounds incredibly moronic and it would most likely make shields obsolete instead of lasers
I'd agree but it also helped reinforce the restraints that the colonized universe were willing to impose on themselves.
see
Yeah it makes zero sense.
He could have just said that lasers don't penetrate shields and be done with it
If I remember the book correctly, the shooter may just die without killing the army (the rifle explodes, but not the shield). Or both can explode like a nuclear bomb.
It is not certain which will happen. So they are not just shooting at shields.
Also, if you are found to shoot at shields or use atomics - everyone will gang up to destroy you.
Problem is that it's incredibly easy to use a laser without revealing who shoots it. Especially if the laser itself is nuked as well
Laser rifles are not terribly easy to smuggle between planets in a feudal society, where the nobles do not control space travel.
This is a major point. The economy and government totally depend on space travel and one organization enjoys a total monopoly on space travel, so pissing them off means you get cut off from society.
You're not grasping that it's not a matter of
>oopsie doodles, I guess there's no evidence either way ;^)
They're not going to just examine the site and throw their hands up in the air, they're going to get mentats to look at literally everything related to the event and send in the Sardukaur to let whoever is responsible know how badly they have fricked up.
If the emperor or landsraad suspect you of pulling that shit, you are capital F fricked because nobody ever wants to be on the receiving end of it and will turn a blind eye to whatever happens to your house.
That's in the absolute best case scenario of local evidence being erased, too. If someone gambles everything on a catastrophic double explosion and ends up with a small event that does pretty much frick all, they've just painted a galactic sized target on their backs for literally no gain.
Who gives a frick, just nuke the emperor too, nuke the psychic dudes too, it's literally free
Spacing guild has limited prescience and a vested interest in the status quo. They would know full well if a lunatic was planning on nuking everything and take steps to prevent it, most likely by just stranding whoever is dumb enough to try
It's not a key point of the book but it's impossible to justify. It's possible to send a laser to anywhere, with enough plausible deniability that it isn't yours.
In Dune everyone is constantly fricking each other on a galactic scale, but boo hoo someone didn't stick to the Geneva convention so I need to go out and help my 500 enemies? Lmao
Everyone is fricking each other in ways they can counter, not randomly wiping each other off the face of the planet because the houses have methods of MAD and the spacing guild can and will utterly skullfrick anybody that threatens the status quo.
Someone will be happy to help the emperor and be rewarded with even more resources to screw you up.
They are fricking each other but they all abide to certain rules, nobody builds fricking AI or tries to undermine CHOAM because that's asking to get your whole planet vaporized
>It's possible to send a laser to anywhere
It's only possible in the sense that it maybe could be done if spacing guild pretended to be dumb or suddenly all their equipment malfunctioned and prescients became blind. The instant you try to smuggle anything you get stranded on your planet and await for emperor to pass his judgement. It's not fricking star wars, people don't just fly around the galaxy.
It still seems like a crippling flaw of design, what if random Joe Doe gets fed up with his shitty job of sucking dicks and decides to steal a laser and shoot someone? The laser wouldn't be the problem, but the shield
>, but boo hoo someone didn't stick to the Geneva convention so I need to go out and help my 500 enemies? Lmao
Yes. Everyone's in on the game. The little pissy wars between the Great Houses don't mean anything substantial. The empire is stagnant by design, a man like Duke Leto is dangerous because he has your mindset.
>why should the emperor be the only one with a halfway decent army?
But even he can't conceptualize a way around the technical "gotcha" of laser-shield-nukes, because it's been literal millenia since anyone has even bothered to examine the problem outside the context of keeping the imperium going exactly as it has been. This is why Paul is even more dangerous than his father Leto, and Leto II more dangerous than Paul, because they're not interested in the game that the rest of the great houses are.
It really isn't.
If you somehow managed to fool everyone it's still enough that a bene gesserit would ask you
>did you do it anon
Or some fricking oracle would see you doing that and ordered your assassination way before.
Yes. Including the person who fired the shot, because it causes feedback on both ends
That sounds even better, just use a remote trigger and the evidence gets nuked as well, hell just talk a moron who doesn't know about the nuke effect, hell just bribe a moron from another house who doesn't know about the laser nukes into killing itself AND ruining the enemy house
Yes. Major theme of Dune is that humanity now has godlike power and they use religion and law to not accidentally blow themselves up.
in the books a lasguns hitting a shield causes an unstable reaction that causes an huge explosion at both ends of the laser, meaning lasguns can only be used in limited circumstances
Yeah thats like the whole reason you rarely see lasers and when you do its a big deal. Because if they hit a shield its like a giga nuke going off and nuclear weapons are banned harder than AI and whoever set it off would get collectively space raped repeatedly until nothing was left.
Part of Dune is there are rules which everybody accepted, eg, no computers, no robots, no space battles, no nukes. You disobey, fine, you get cut off from the galactic economy, you get cut off from Space Heroin (which means you slowly and painfully die), plus attacking you for sport is now legal.
Also Dune has religion so after you die you will go to hell.
>no computers, no robots
It's just no thinking machines. Computers are fine just no AI and robots are also fine just not androids.
If "computers" are fine then why do they use Guild navigators?
>first scene of every edition of dune
>paul using a computer to learn about 'rakis
remain angry
That's not a computer, it's a recording. It's essentially a tape player.
>why do they use Guild navigators?
Because space magic? Guild navigators can see in the future and pick out the one that gets the ship where its supposed to go in one piece. I dont think computers could do that without being so advanced as to be considered "thinking".
But I doubt there was that much thought put into it other than space magic spice important logic.
>I doubt there was that much thought put into it
>implying Frank didn't put in the work
He didn't when it came to the space magic. It was absolutely his weakness.
The danger isnt to your own safety, the problem is if you laser nuke someone then all the other noble houses will quash you.
>Send unmarked Walmart droid with a laser into enemy capital
>Laser a random shield from 20 miles away
>whole place nuked, nobody knows it's you
>walmart bought out by CHOAM, who registers and lojacks every droid
huh wonder why your droid suddenly disappeared at the gun-side epicenter of the blast
>buy a wallmart drone
>put a shield on it
>give it a laser gun
>make it fly on top of the enemy's army and then force it to shoot itself
>enemy army is dead
>no way to know who owned the drone either
Armies mean jackshit in a setting like thid
Yeah absolutely, the laser/shield/gun shenanigans are so dumb. Not a huge part of the story but very avoidable.
>Just write it so that lasers don't work against shields
Bam solved half of the shield problems
Just shoot the shield point blank and you get 2 nukes for the price of one
Dune
Dune 2: Rise of the Spice
Dune 3: The Worm Caliphate
200 million was not spent on that shot. Maybe like 4 hours of outsourced minimum wage work to India made this shot and the hundreds of millions was spent on paying the actors and vials of child blood to drink.
>every movie costs hundreds of millions
>every movie has to be a blockbuster hit or it bleeds money
The whole system has become unsustainable.
As long as these hooknoses keep receiving federal bailouts from these bombs they will keep making them. And they will keep making them because the media is just another wing of government, nothing to do with entertainment.
35mm vs digital killed the colors. I also feel modern lenses are absolute garbo. Look at any RED raw footage, its a joke, it looks like a iphone video you made at clear daylight. Color corrction is literall a must now.
Now compare this shit to Lawrnce of Arabia or Blade Runner. Im slowly understanding Tarantinos obsession with film. Digital looks like pure aids.
>Blade Runner.
You dont get my point, film looks immediatl yliek film, while digital will always look like a made for tv movie. It has this uncanny cheap look to it. Now add IMAX ratio and you dont even have the widescreen bars anymore and it even looks more like a made for tv movie.
>defending black rectangles on the screen
do milennials really?
Frick you. You “DUH WHAT ARE THESE BLACK BAHS?” homosexuals literally caused “Full Screen” edits cutting off 2/3rds of the movie to be the norm. Frick. You.
Go back to your 4:3 tvs, grandpa.
Grandpa? Your post makes no sense, it’s the Grampas that caused the 4:3 full screen edits to exist because the bars on the screen made them go insaaaaane
let me guess, you "need" more?
>comparing a DVD tv version to the widescreen theatrical one
I watched Jurassic Park the other day in 35mm and it was even better
>I watched Jurassic Park the other day in 35mm
how
I'll try and find the link again
wow i had no idea this was a thing, are there other movies out like this? where the hell did people get it?
Spider-Man 1 as well
Nature found a way.
>28.7GB
>1920x1080
>2h
lmao how
You wouldn't understand.
Seems too much even for lossless
its not
just stfu
It is lol. Should be 4k at that size if it wasn't encoded by a moron
you're still watching a digital scan of the print, not on actual 35mm celluoid projected
Jesus fricking Christ I have lived long enough to feel profound nostalgia at that soulless 90s corporate contructivist poured-concrete style.
They’re overdoing colour correction too
money laundering
inflation
Unions. Literally no other reason. Look at indie and low budget movies. They don't use unions, many have fairly good effects despite low budgets and many have very good writing and sometimes acting. Unions have a mandated minimum pay for everything and it causes Hollywood movies to have bloated budgets just for basic shit like mic operators and the lighting guy. Add that some actors have absurd salary costs and you now have half or more of the budget going to just a few people.
>he thinks CGI artists are unionized
lmao @ ur life. One of the main reasons there was such a huge shift from practical effects to CGI is because the old hollywood production houses were all unionized because they had existed since the 1920s, meanwhile CGI sweatshop houses will just make whatever the costcutting studio exec wants with no fuss
Trump lost btw
IATSE was in a much stronger position in the 90s tho
Movies these days are mostly just money laundering/tax evasion schemes for the israelites.
diversity hires on every department brings the quality down
What's the hero from an SF flick doing in Dwemer armor?
They gotta find a way to cut down these budgets are else blockbuster movies are fricked. It's just not feasible to expect these movies to turn a profit regularly.
Only one 2023 movie with a $200 million+ budget turned a profit last year, GotG3.
Dune2 only cost $120 million. If it does $500 million worldwide it's solidly profitable and will probably get a sequel
>They gotta find a way to cut down these budgets are else blockbuster movies are fricked.
Same thing with video games, 1 AAA title per studio per generation costing $200 million isn't sustainable
>1 AAA title per studio per generation costing $200 million isn't sustainable
It is because moronic zoomers keep buying Nicki Minaj skins with their moms' credit card.
That's completely missing the point. If everyone could do that then 200mil AAAs wouldn't be a thing.
They have to pay all of those diversity hires on set and the nepotism doesn't help either.There are so many sons and cousins that need a comfy job eventhough they are all incompetent.