>Mr Freeze dies sacrificing himself for his wife
>she's already hooked up with dozens of men in the next episodes
This was so powerful
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Giving women freedoms is a good thing and a natural part of any civilized society's development.
I just hate that some women have no fricking idea what to do with their freedom and end up hurting themselves and others and if you ever try to tell them they might be wrong, you're the evil one.
>some women
Weird that women have the highest suicide attempt rate in human history now they’re more free than ever
You got suicide statistics for the middle ages m8?
Yeah. It was incredibly rare because people thought it meant burning in hell forever
>source: sneed
>dude trust me I know better about women attempting suicide during the middle ages, I read the hand maids tale
They have the highest suicide attempt BUT men account for the highest suicide deaths.
Yeah, women suck at getting jobs done. No news there
Women do it for attention (form of self-inflicted pain), men do it because they feel it's the only way out.
>my suffering is more legit than yours! pay attention to MY suffering!
Also what the frick attention do you receive after you have a nice day. You don't get to bask in it. If a person kills themselves, it's always because they feel it's the only way out. You're gonna start talking about something like dumb suicide attempts or whatever, I don't really care. If that makes you feel better a female artist I followed online for a while has quietly killed herself a few weeks ago, no suicide note, no attention seeking, she was just gone and the only way people found out was through her relatives. Is that "legit" enough for you?
No need to get emotional over my point. An "attempt" is a broad term, and in relation to the methods more often used by women (wrist cutting, pill consumption), it's more about attention than an honest attempt sure to kill. Never said all women do it for attention.
Women taking 20 sleeping pills then calling an ambulance isn’t the same as a man jumping off a 20 story building lmao
Or a shotgun to the face.
Interestingly enough, women are catching up to men in that regard and the cause seems to be social media with a correlation between the rise of the biggest sites and the suicide rates with said sites already being a proven causality in women's mental health
That's because just because women use social media more because they're more prone to social contagion than men. Social media is equally bad for everybody's health, women are just on it more.
No, there's a theory. Women turn to more social avenues in terms of aggression or dominance and typically tend to be more sensitive about their self-worth in regards to how their peers evaluate them.
So then we have 2 factors
>Likes and friends list have become measures of self worth for teenage girls in particular
>Those same teenage girls are actually bigger cyberbullies than this side of the internet could ever be
Men are also in the uprise because of the internet, anon.
>attempt
they do it for attention, anon, otherwise they'd success
Men only succeed better then woman because there just more brutal about it and refuse to share depression because it'll be seen as "weaknesses". Chick would just be cutting herself or taking pills, all things slightly more possible to survive and recover from, guy will take a full blown shotgun to the face or hang himself in the attic without telling anyone.
You can't have both dumbfrick, women with freedom is what we have now and endless downward spiral for their sole benefit.
I think it's because it's sort of a new concept in terms of humanity as a whole. Men, metaphysically, still haven't figured out how to deal with women's 'liberation' so to speak in the grand scheme of things. Everything's still too muddled and it seems to continue to be so. (Like how some men tend to seek validation from women by letting the shit they do slide, which was a byproduct of chivalric romance which they effectively killed off but still sort of still want men to act like it exists) We can only ever start historically judging its consequences after a century or so.
I think its more along the lines of men not realizing that their existance has value and that people really do care about them. That making women happy is not their obligation and do not represent sucess in any way.
I would go a bit further. Women as human beings, are not in any way, responsability of the men that believe they are disposable and servitude to the social contract is all that matters.
>I think its more along the lines of men not realizing that their existance has value and that people really do care about them
What kind of fricking fantasy world are you living in? A woman can literally rape a man and then force him to pay money to her for the rest of his life, and if he doesn't do it, he will be sent to prison.
I think I do remember that case and it wasn't only rape but it was an underaged boy. Take it with a grain of salt though.
Because, again, men don't realize they have value. So, the system treats them as valueless, expendable, replezable and can be used as whatever they want.
Some women still perpetuate that, how are you supposed to deal with that then?
With education. Women are not this big monster you can't defeat, anon. They are just people.
People who are born with inherent social privileges, anon.
>People who are born with inherent social privileges, anon.
No privilege is eternal, anon. None.
Unless you are a turbo billionare individual capable of manipulating the State. Then you can keep them for a bit.
I don't know, you sound like someone who quits just because shit get tough.
So no more letting women shit slide then.
That would be the idea. A shame this won't happen until men as a whole stop treating themselves like their only function is to make society works like robots.
>no privilege is eternal anon
Dude you are a totally autistic moron with no clue how the world really works. Women will always get the benefit of the doubt in society. We just literally had Amber Heard try and ruin Johnny Depp and it took a shit ton of money and several court cases for Johnny to clear his name and there are still people dumb enough out there to give Amber Heard the benefit of the doubt because she is a woman.
And people have flaws. There is no big sister trying to kill you, there is only societal value and that can be changed with time.
There is no big sister, just the common gestalt thought of the women here have in the west.
>gestalt
Oh please, psychology is psychology. The Gestalt school has flaws that were not covered by more individualistic and humanist views.
But that's what feminism is now and forevermore.
No one is saying women are monsters. People are obviously saying men and women are not the same but humanity has already known that for years. Society didn't just happen to see men as the more responsible sex, it's because everyone already knows men are the more pragmatic and rational ones compared to women.
The child support was based around the needs of the child born out of rape. The logic based on the choice is based on legal standards of family law.
Still unfair, but its more a legal system tecnicality regarding child bearing by the state based on loopholes to regain tax money (and also, again, because men victims of statuory rape are seen as less important and without that much value compared to women victims).
Men realizing completely that they have worth, would allow for legal mechanism that do not cause these kind of scenarios.
It doesn't feel like this is true man. It feels like the opposite, but I still try to live like a hermit cuz I don't want to be part of that paradigm where I need their validation.
>it's sort of a new concept in terms of humanity as a whole.
couldnt be further from the truth, we just think it's new because our heads are so far up our own asses we think we're the first ones to do everything. back when man first had the capacity for conscious thought did we consider the possibility, but the average person realized the idea of "women's liberation" is about the same as "man's liberation from needing to eat"
>Men, metaphysically, still haven't figured out how to deal with women's 'liberation' so to speak in the grand scheme of things
men know exactly how to handle it. women are weak and easily manipulated, but that's not the answer anybody wants to hear because it makes us realize we're playing a stupid game of "lets pretend the average man isn't a lot more capable and stronger than practically every woman", while the people who dont give a frick continue to live in the real world
>We can only ever start historically judging its consequences after a century or so.
we started judging even before it began, and even then we could plainly see it failed miserably. we're just still in the throes of people coping with this reality. people who are smart continue to live by the same old rules that have always worked. i.e. most women are just resources used by men who know how to take advantage of them
Then that would mean women being capable as men are is a great big lie.
to be fair i think they can be very capable, just not in the same ways as men. women also can't work together to save their lives.
Ok sociopath.
i actually love women a lot, and i love being sweet and mushy with them. a couple of my past girlfriends were sort of radical feminists who appreciated that i could take them seriously and not be so insecure i couldnt show weakness. i like crying.
i just wish women werent being brainwashed into hating themselves or thinking they have to be irresponsible and full of bitterness and resentment because of a made up issue. thankfully theres a lot of women who dont buy into it.
Like tearful cry or straight out bawling into her arms?
im a tearful cry kind of guy. the melancholic kind where you're just overwhelmed with how meaningful something is in the moment. mostly happens with music but also some films.
>brainwashed into hating themselves
I think that's more of a women doing shitty things to other women than what men do to women thing.
>dating radfems
Literally why would you do this.
You were literally their girlfriend, homosexual
>past girlfriends appreciated that i could cry in front of them
and they left. they didn't stick around, did they? wow you're so smart about being sensitive
if you aren’t bullshitting then i guess you’re lucky for finding a female that allow you to have a weak side. must be nice
I feel as you do, it's a really confusing time for all the qualities in men and women that evolution has given them to ensure survival. It's really too many changes at once but it's very possible that it's an inevitable result of educating everyone. Like once we can see science, efficiency, fairness - all these constructs that nature kinda doesn't like, then we basically must throw away what nature has given us like our prejudice, fear, and in this case, the providing-male/nurturing-female dynamic.
I remember some people saying that the West being the forerunner on all this social fairness stuff is going to seriously cause some psychic damage to it. The culture is going to fight these advanced-level society-shifting fights while other nations follow the example or worse, establish more authoritarian systems bent on maintaining the traditional male/female structure, which means continuing to deny women things like education. Or just avoiding developing law or media institutions to avoid going down the path of debate the West, like China has. I really feel like the West could have had a smoother figuring-this-shit-out experience if it didn't have such unity-damaging events like all the wars between Vietnam and Afghanistan. And if the Internet had just taken 20 more years to show up. Even right now, as we've kinda found our stability COVID hit, which let's be honest really divided nations. And now that we're emerging from COVID some idiot invades a sovereign state further diverting attention and money away from building something good.
If the fricking planet isn't in mass civil unrest over climate change refugees in the next 20 years, it will be interesting to see how nations like China fare avoiding allowing Western fairness become a part of their culture.
I disagree with you wholeheartedly and have changed my mind to more what this anon said
, also the refugee crisis is a consequence of war rather than any foreseeable climate crisis. It's sort of like how we don't worry about ozone shit anymore.
>Men, metaphysically, still haven't figured out how to deal with women's 'liberation' so to speak in the grand scheme of things.
Metaphysically, my ass, stop blaming your problems on spirits. It's psychologically unprepared because they don't want to accept that the rules of the game have changed. Read this fricking thread. It's a bunch of guys who prefer to come here and complain instead of figuring out their own freaking lives. All you have to do is acquire some empathy and try to see the other side. Once you do, it's like magic and you go, "Oh, they weren't all in the wrong after all." And you're fricking free. It's that easy.
Metaphysics doesn't deal with spirits lmao. It deals with abstract concepts within our reality, especially ones that deal with one's identity unto the world (Which I used because men have been supporting and doing things to care for the protection of women since time immemorial). I guess you could hate it if you don't like philosophizing things.
There's no point in leaving the problem to the "abstract," to God, to your soul, to the world of Platonic ideas, or anything. The solution is right in front of you.
Men can't just ignore women, we need them for posterity. Sometimes I feel women don't exactly love men the way, or even to the degree, men love them.
>Men can't just ignore women
Say that to millions of monks of several religions and those peasants who probably never scored and even if they did never had a baby that survived the age of three. All of them lived fully, like every other human being.
I want you to refute my latter point. Please.
Your latter point is based on your subjective and internalized views on women. I don't have the time to debate personal opinions.
But what are your thoughts on it, do you also feel the same way or not?
My thoughts are that you take so many concepts for granted and create an entire argument about it just to ontologize the thing later and justify the fact that you just don't want to learn some empathy. But that's just my personal opinion about you. Don't take it too hard.
I think you'd find that I am rather overly empathetic. And to be fair in my experience, women professing how much they love men in media is made even more scarce nowadays than how much men love women.
Okay.
What do you mean okay? Aren't you going to refute that as well?
You can't refute a person's identity. It's your subjectivity and nobody cares about it here.
That's whats going on in businesses across the country
Women are lonelier and more broke then ever before.
They can even get a man to talk to them at work let alone date them get fricked or screw their way to the top.
Metoo empowered some frick ugly muddle aged c**ts and dykes and Kyle opportunists lie Abrams, but ruined it for women as a whole.
>metaphysically
i'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume you don't know what that word means and that you are an insufferable person
>it's a byproduct of chivlaric romance
no the frick it isn't, dumbass. it's because if we want to get laid later, we'll let women believe whatever the frick they want and win arguments they never deserved to win
like this anon. this anon needs to get his dick wet. this is what happens when you don't get laid. none of what this person said will improve male/female relations because women generally aren't impressed by words or intellect, otherwise we could "debate" our way in to their pants
They'd have an idea if they were women of God.
>women of God
>ie. women who know their place in a household, as society's gatekeepers of sex and how to hold a relationship
thats whats missing
Responsibility is not exactly a woman's strong suit until they become mothers.
Anon, I hope you realize that MGTOW preaches that and they are a laughing stock by women as a whole.
MGTOW wouldn't be as much of a laughing stock if it wasn't so visibly full of bitter and hateful people.
Men are bitter in general hence them looking for joy in women aka 'the better half'.
Shame they really aren't better. Finding joy somewhere else would be a good advice.
It's in our blood to literally be drawn towards women and do anything in our power to protect them from harm's way. That's instinctual at this point.
Then, it's time to change things up.
Which was already happening, especially in a social scale in the 2000s with all the men's rights movements propping up due to the reaction of feminism's unquenchable vying for more control and ubiquity.
Good!
MGTOW is about the self worship instead of understanding oneself as well as their role in the world. That's where they frick up.
Practice in humility never hurt anyone. Roles exist for a reason.
It's not so much self-worship as it is being the master of one's own destiny.
An admirable goal. If you're going down that path, just remember not to let it become your everything.
if youre abstaining from women to reach your goals, then youre not handling your women the right way. or choosing them right. plenty of women will let you pursue your goals and even assist you if you show them youre serious. having a woman means having a sidekick.
So it's mostly my fault as well if a woman decides to dump me because she thinks I'm boring?
no, it means get a new one. as men we get back on the horse after licking our wounds. we dont quit, we find a way.
I know it sounds melodramatic but how many wounds is enough? Until you don't think getting back on the horse is worth it anymore.
it never ends. it doesnt. neither do the days of you reining in your women from going too far - so she knows youre the one who is always in charge. and instead of leaving women altogether, you learn to leave the bad ones early on and keep looking. you just have to learn to stop picking at the scars.
or I can just quit.
quitting is worse.
that's not for you to decide
its your choice if you want to quit and boo hoo the rest of your life. but quitting is still worse.
i'm not really sad about it, no. It is what it is.
And more men choose it, see Japan.
>i'm not really sad about it, no
I dont believe that at all. also, humans were meant to co-exist and enjoy each other, especially man and woman. but if I can smell the defeat in you, then others can too. and its not healthy. but good luck to you.
this seems like projecting, but there is nothing i can write if you work through feel and smell. Just remember that different people with vastly different beliefs than yours exist. I can accept your existence. Can you accept mine?
have fun co-existing with some b***h that nags you all day
I'll do stuff I actually enjoy
You could say that about any identity movement these days including modern feminism.
>Anon, I hope you realize that MGTOW preaches that and they are a laughing stock by women as a whole.
I know. But there is a degree of truth to what they say.
To love yourself is the first step of moving forward and to understand that you are responsible of your own happiness, is a good a thing. Removes unnecessary responsability from men's shoulders and allow them to focus on other things that makes them feel more complete.
Whatever personal ethics you have in your head, you have to understand that you do have a place in your own world, that people care and that you are not expendable no matter how much society dictates otherwise. Women's care is not a man's responsability unless they are family or friends, but as a whole there is no point in giving love free to people who doesn't want it.
>until they become mothers.
Haha no.
Well, it a wake-up call to act responsible regardless.
> Anon, I hope you realize that MGTOW preaches that and they are a laughing stock by women as a whole.
Why would I care about the opinion of women? is just seething for not being the center of attention just like how an incel would seethe over a women not settling down
but anyways MGTOW itself isn’t bad but proclaiming to be one is kinda dumb. just be honest: you’re too ugly to get laid and decided that you aren’t going to follow a a dead dream and dedicate instead in dtuff that actually makes you happy. There’s nothing wrong with that, but going “women? nah i only follow the MGTOW” only makes you look like you’re suffering out of sour grapes
>Giving women freedoms is a good thing and a natural part of any civilized society's development.
>Giving women freedoms is a good thing and a natural part of any civilized society's development
yup, worked out real well for the Roman Empire
They didn't give them enough rights.
the roman empire ended from internal corruption, frickstick. look at the long list of assassinations. by 200-300 A.D., it wasn't uncommon for an assassination of the emperor to happen every year or every other year because the seat for emperor was literally a for sale sign owned by the praetorian guard
>Giving women freedoms is a good thing
Why?
The idea that giving more rights is always a good thing is moronic to anyone who isn't an moron. If 90% of women use their 'rights' to ruin society as we know it, then giving them these 'rights' is a bad thing
Because civilized society is about making the life of its population more comfortable, not sticking with the outdated cult of strength. Besides, you cannot definitely prove that X group of people are just dumb/evil by default.
>Because civilized society is about making the life of its population more comfortable
False. Civilized society is when order and duty are exercised as per their due diligence. You can have the most social-darwinistic society that has everyone do the most uncomfortable work imaginable but if the populace is all agreed to it and work towards it, that is considered civilized.
Why would you though? What is the point of order and duty if it doesn't make anyone's lives better?
Because having more rights makes life more comfortable.
You may have your idealistic ideas of what civilization is "supposed to" be, but the truth is that any and all technical and social progress exists for the sake of making more people's lives more comfortable.
>why would you though
I'm clarifying to you that comfort is one of the key motivators, not the meaning for a civilized society. It would be the presence of order and its fulfillment via duty.
You're conflating the essence of INVENTIONS, not defining civil society. The presence of discomfort in a society does not mean it is not civil.
But even then the right word to use would be CONVENIENCE not comfort.
>Because civilized society is about making the life of its population more comfortable
And why is it that more "rights" = more comfortable?
Civilization is not meant to be just a tool to promove hedonistic degeneracy.
The cult of intrinsic superiority by rigged rules is better correct?
I tell you what. You tell that to a biker, or a gsngbanger, or cartel or mafia.
Rule by deceit and emotional manipulation gets you nothing more the hedonistic bullies and stupid weak victims.
Which is demonstrated by this show.
Caught how Harley is a violent headstrong and Bruce is a victim of emotional abuse. Easy pickings for emotionally violent opportunists.
Look at the end of this dumpsterfire.
.
Power fantasy for the worst sorts of disgusting sheltered pampered cowardly filth.
>You tell that to a biker, or a gsngbanger, or cartel or mafia.
I don't get your point. Crime exists in civilization, so... civilization bad?
You are an idiot.
Which is bad in the magical stremf bad society you want.
A society without the strength to protect itself and enforce rules of conduct is doomed.
You want to live like a hedonistic backstabbing piece of shit in a stable protected strong society.
Not even a parasite. A social cancer that spreads its stupidity.
>A society without the strength to protect itself and enforce rules of conduct is doomed.
And where exactly did I suggest a society without the means to protect itself? Having basic law enforcement is not a cult of strength. Punishing people for being "unworthy" is.
You know, if you didn't assume so much about everyone who disagrees with you on anything, you could've been a happier person.
Presence of order is a means to an end to achieve consistent comfort. It's not something that exist for the sake of itself.
And yet a society with less discomfort would be considered more civilized than a society with more discomfort.
>Presence of order is a means to an end to achieve consistent comfort. It's not something that exist for the sake of itself.
I am defining what a CIVILIZED society is and comfort, however vague that is, is not its core feature. It's the fulfillment of order.
>considered more civilized
That word is being used liberally in that sense like the way it's been used to distinguish yourself from barbarity, eg. the 'civilized' world. When something is uncivilized, it is not orderly/just.
>Punishing people for being "unworthy" is.
....
What do you think this show does?
It punishes people for not being as corrupt and evil as the protagonists.
It beats about humanism while it jokes about the pain terror and death of others.
Don't pretend to righteousness when your position is one provided and protected by the ones you loudly detest.
>It punishes people for not being as corrupt and evil as the protagonists.
I don't watch the show, post examples
The existence of a stricter order already implies the society is progressive enough to care about upholding more rights of its citizens.
>The existence of a stricter order already implies the society is progressive enough to care about upholding more rights of its citizens.
Yes, and?
This means that people getting more rights is what pushes civilization forward.
If you really stretch it out like that then sure (order = comfort). Still would say it's worded vaguely and somewhat wrong to say comfort is what civilized society is rather than it being in a state of order and just.
Back then, technically they would be considered privileges and the more you had them the more responsibility you are expected to maintain. Like how voting was tied to property ownership
After watching how badly my older female relatives are squandering the family wealth/estate, I don't think they should be able to own land either. The Islamic system legitimately looks better than what we have because at least under their system, I would be the one in charge of the family estate being the only male heir, the way it should be. The social engineers who lobbied to give women all the undeserved wealth and powers 100% knew they would use it to be destructive. They knew full well back in the 60s when the rockefeller foundation funded the free love movement the damage they were doing.
Under the islamic system you would be beaten/killed/exiled if you broke one of the many nonsensical arbitrary rules. You would also not be allowed to be any more than what your family thinks you should be.
Like most religions, gay sex is punishable, like death, especially Christianity, and yet here we are.
Why aren't incest, zoophilia or pedophilia (the latter practiced by Mohammad himself) punishable? Because the distinction between "evil" and permissible is completely arbitrary and based on selfish interest of those making the rules.
Yeah no shit, long with who's definition on what progressive is.
nah that's bullshit. in my family, my cousins who are all male ruined their inheritance and neglected property that could have sold for 3 times what they got it for. they let a house rot for 15 years until it got termites.
yeah but libs are dumbfricks because even if they hate right wing bullshit, libs are spineless cowards who would literally just let it happen instead of vote for real leftist politicians.
> The Islamic system legitimately looks better than what we have
Before women became free, men had the legal obligation to support them. Only literal internet inc*ls complain about this because they live mentally in a fantasy land where they're supposed to have a magical trad wife waiting for them if it wasn't for feminism or something.
>Before women became free, men had the legal obligation to support them
They still do, you moronic baiting homosexual.
Not my fault if you live under sharia law.
Is there a society doing well that women have no rights in?
…japan?
do japan count as not having women rights?
Japan is super discriminatory but isn't nearing ME levels where every hyper sexist country is either a shit hole of boy frickers or rides the oil train.
Don't think I would use it as an example though as the culture that discriminates also grinds up men until nothing but a husk is left.
Man libs really aren't joking when they say that a lot of people would support society turning into a Handmaid's Tale dystopia. Bleak stuff.
Handmaid's Tale is incredibly smutty for absolutely no reason other than misery porn.
It's porn for middle aged women. A societybof powerful men built with raping and enslaving women like them into social dna
Anon, you'd have to convinceppeople here that the holocaust happened first
Are you surprised people on Cinemaphile don't want women to have any rights? You know there's people on here who think Hitler didn't go far enough with the Holocaust too.
>there's people on here who think Hitler didn't go far enough with the Holocaust too.
He didn't.
The Handmaid's Tale is literally fetish fiction.
It was literally inspired by the Islamic Revolution in Iran which drastically stripped the rights of women IRL.
Welcome to Cinemaphile, where people dehumanize muslims as they're uncivilized monsters that would kill you for not following their way of life, but are as moronic and misogynistic as them.
You fricking dumbass, we dehumanize everyone no exceptions.
*as if they're
no, you were correct the first time
> where people dehumanize muslims as they're uncivilized monsters
because they’re. idk why i should respect a religion that treats women like shit and kill homos for existing, even if i don’t like thoses two minorities they still have the right to exist
Catholicism would be doing the same (as we can see from many ultra-conservative people in the Ocident) today if people didn't push social changes along the centuries (like women freedoms)
>whataboutism
are catholics killing gays and treating women like shit? no. so i don’t care
are muslim doing that? yes. so i care to shit on them
>Catholicism would be doing the same
But it isn't.
Anon, people broke off from the Church solely because they weren't radical enough. Thinking the Church would be doing the same is anti-Catholic drek when they literally formed and continued the basis of Western civilization and the concept of universal and inalienable rights.
You do realize you're on an imageboard right? Most of the males here are brainwashed, just as the women they complain about.
>Giving women freedoms is a good thing and a natural part of any civilized society's development.
Yes, anon. You should go back in time and destroy your life and health for a woman and a dozen of kids who would just complain you never bring enough money home.
>go back in time
you think that doesn't happen today?
I hate this. I just want Mr. Freeze to be happy.
>Giving women freedoms is a good thing and a natural part of any civilized society's development.
foid or homosexual detected.
>Giving women freedoms is a good thing
society
I am not against women having rights hut i wish they would grow a brain for once
If you really think about it, men are the ones giving women their right. If one day, men all around the world decided that women don't have rights, no one can stop that from happening. The only reason women have rights is because some men are pathetic feminist cucks.
This has to be bait. Like imagine if we switched the genders here. It would be 1984.
welcome to hell
Stop watching garbage.
It's actually a good message for men
Too many spend time and money simping for women who will just use them
Just dont
Right but women don't want us to figure that out because they rely on the fricked up emotional trauma they inflict in order to control boys and men. It's really deliberate how they traumatize you and then gaslight you like it's your fault. That way you internalize the idea that YOU are the one not good enough for them when it's the other way around.
Humiliating and traumatizing boys and men is too vital for their control over us, they don't ever in a trillion years ever want us figuring that out
>Iphonedrone OP
>Same weak bait
Get a different hobby
She's probably just trying to deal with the major stress of waking up years after being cryogenically frozen and her husband being gone sometimes insane things make you go insane for a while. Any chance one of Mr freezes man might show up and say he cryogenically store some sperm before he became frozen?
Shes supposed to have a midlife crisis and thinks shes making up for lost time. Only it wasnt treated as serious in lieu of the show's spirit (which was very tacky imo).
Its like she says "oh yeah maybe im just acting up! And moves on.
That was 100% written after the reaction to her in the bachelorette episode
''In lieu of' means 'instead of'.
I hate this show so much.
I hate pretty much all Batman adaptations made after the year 2004.
What wad wrong with Batman Brave and the Bold or Justice League Unlimited?
>Justice League Unlimited?
Ugh, pure garbage.
They turned him into Batgod
>Batman Brave and the Bold
Shat on superior Plastic Man
>Everytime
Nora is suffering from two things colliding into each other
1. A loss of time Nora had when she was frozen and Victor was trying cure her.
2. the loss of Victor Freeze, ao she's partying so she doesn't have time to reflect on her loss or mourne him.
Example she was just crying in an empty mansion before Harley ask her to go on the bachelorette party.
This, Nora isn't being portrayed as "Yass Queen slay!" when she is doing cocaine up the butt and flashing her breasts at the airport, both Harley and Ivy are having the same kind of "Nora is off the frickin deep end, how sad.".
If you're watching her spiral and thinking "Wow, Nora became an obnixious coked out bawd." congratulations, that is exactly what the writers intended for you to feel, you followed the script to the letter, you're not some savant with a hot take on the situation, you are literally the target audience.
He said to be happy
Sex makes people happy
whoa whoa whoa there, anon. are you using logic or something? get that shit out of here
Wait really? That's pretty gay. I mean the show is an elseworlds comedy though right so it isn't like any of this shit should be taken seriously. Ivy isn't even dressed sexy why the frick is she and Harley flat while this chick has her breasts out? That's stupid.
It's empowering
The make Ivy hot later and make Harley thicc because they could do that now that they are gay and lesbians font sell if they aren't attractive to men and their looks played up as a gorm of dominance that is pushed sexuskky onto low sekfesteem girls
They don't want lesbisns in the show. They want sexual dogwhistles for men and grooming weapons to use on easily manipulated low self esteem girls.
Men are not entitled to the love of a woman. Even is that woman is his wife, he died saving her and she hooks up with another guy like a week later.
Nobody is entitled to anoyne's love. If she doesn't give it to you, just leave her. You will be doing yourself a favor.
>Nobody is entitled to anoyne's love.
You are right but is quite a heartless pragmatist way to see things don't you agree? What you are saying might be true but its kind of shitty to give that answer to a person that dedicated their life to help someone they love.
Nora feels like a massive b***h for going around sleeping with random men when the corpse of his husband isn't even cold yet (metaphorically speaking of course)
>You are right but is quite a heartless pragmatist way to see things don't you agree?
Sure, but it is the way it is.And it is better to know this before giving it your all for someone who doesn't care about you.
>Nora feels like a massive b***h for going around sleeping with random men when the corpse of his husband isn't even cold yet (metaphorically speaking of course).
She is going through some grieve by not addressing her feelings about what happened. She uses sex in the same way others use drugs and alcohol, but she can't run from herself. Selfdestruction always arrives.
Maybe Swampthing can save her from herself. Who knows? In the end it's probably just a joke the show is telling.
>joke
Is this one of those 'jokes' that's utterly devoid of humour?
Yeah, I guess. The emotional whiplash can cause a few laughs on some people, but most will just consider it distasteful.
>Swampthing
You know it's weird how he was the right person to call out Nora. Nora just jumping from dick to dick and Samp thing wanting to slap labels on the relationship.
Even if it meant dedicating your entire life's work in saving her? Did women just effectively kill the concept of selfless love?
>Even if it meant dedicating your entire life's work in saving her? Did women just effectively kill the concept of selfless love?
I mean he is dead. Death do us part
That's for marriage, not love. Especially not for one that goes above and beyond like Fries has.
Yes. Even in that case.
If you wanna take revenge, go for it. Just avoid going nuclear too fast or it could explode in your face.
Listen, I know autistic people have difficulties understanding emotions and shit, but at least try.
I don't understand what you mean.
I know.
In BTAS she didn't even wait for him to die to reject him.
You dedicate your life and energy to your kids, your job, and your skills, and all of those may or may not pay you back. It's all up to chance. You can cry about it, but it won't be of any help.
>In BTAS she didn't even wait for him to die to reject him.
I think that would be better than dying not knowing she never could love him anymore.
Makes no difference. He's dead anyway. After you die, what you have left is up for grabs. Be it your money, your house, your work, your creations, anything. And your wife was never your property, so she was up for grabs by anyone anytime, anyway.
>what you have left is up for grabs when you die
No, it isn't. You have your last wishes, most commonly officiated via a WILL in a CIVILIZED SOCIETY
It's up for grabs, metaphorically speaking. Inheritance is linked to civil law.
>inheritance
Yes, but if you desired IN YOUR WILL that your possessions be not inherited then you may. Even the recipient of said inheritance can deny it in certain grounds and especially in a timely fashion.
That varies according to the law of each country, anon. I have no idea why you're being so anal about it on a board about comics and cartoons.
I'm not being anal about it, you were simply wrong when you posted this
You're nitpicking information in order to invalidate a general idea that remains true even if you point out incidental aspects of the argument. My point still stands and you're just salty. Now leave.
>Makes no difference. He's dead anyway. After you die, what you have left is up for grabs. Be it your money, your house, your work, your creations, anything.
>nitpicking
That's what I was refuting.
Just be honest already and say what you don't like and what hurt your feelings. Stop trying to be a smartass.
What? Why are you asking of my feelings all of a sudden? I'm simply telling you that when you die not everything is up for grabs as you've clearly otherwise stated
The point of the argument still stands: you're dead; you're gone. And women aren't your property, so it's out of the discussion. There's nothing else to discuss and I don't know why you're still quoting me.
The point of an argument we are not having stands.
Okay.
I've been discussing this with a buffoon.
So why isn't that b***h in prison and the child taken into protective custody or given to the rape victim?
That's not for the welfare of the child.
That's denigration of men and turning us into a fricking stream of re enue for the court, perspective free slave labor, and to reward useless bawds and encourage this so they have easy manipulated punching bags for even worse scum.
You see an aphorism that is deductively logically perfect and just because you don't like the implication, you decide to nitpick the legality of something, despite it not being a legal discussion at all and despite the fact that this is a comic and cartoon board, and by definition, nobody is serious here. You're not as intelligent as think and you're just a disingenuous prick. Now frick off.
What you're saying is "stop taking apart the stupid shit I say using common sense.
I want to seem smart and clever okay?"
Thanks.
You memorized a thesaurus and a few pithy smurt sayings now think the content of what you are saying is good.
Thanks. Now go sit in the corner.
>and all of those may or may not pay you back
That is the only mistake I see that needs correcting, and that's simply a socio-cultural issue.
Yeah and in the comics she came back, found out he was being an supervillain and joined in.
Point is, both are more respectful than what this cartoon did.
>Men are not entitled to the love of a woman
Then why do we do literally anything for them? Why do we work so hard to make them comfortable and not only get nothing in return, but you gaslight men who expect to have some reason for being alive by telling them they aren't entitled to something they very clearly are entitled to.
>Then why do we do literally anything for them?
because we are that stupid
The people who say shit like "the world doesn't owe you anything!" are usually the people who owe you something.
It wasn't a purposeful message, it was the hack authors of individual episodes not communicating and having a shit editor. The same thing that's wrong with most of this show.
People keep trying to figure out just exactly why it doesn't work (besides the usual Harley dichotomy) but it all comes down to it being a lazy three camera sitcom in animated form.
Some people drink, some people use drugs, some people frick.
It's just the way it is, hurt people will do anything to get rid of that pain.
I'm just glad she is trying to get over it already.
Yeah most people in mourning don't do it while they are grieving. Depression makes for a horrible aphrodisiac.
That’s fricked up
I hope youre not just now realizing that harley quinn is pozzed garbage.
I'm all for anything which curbs the rampant simping that has led to women becoming what they are now
Nora's transformation into a bimbo bawd has been glorious to watch. Any woman with platform sandals gets my dicks attention so she's a straight upgrade. Makes Mr. Freeze's arc even more tragic that his wife was a bawd though.
Something about this image is so pathetic, I can't help but laugh a bit.
>wife was a bawd though.
She is worse than a bawd
I've never watched this show but now I'm interested because of Nora's bimbofication. Is there any Nora bimbofication porn out there?
Not yet, just screencaps of the scene in her latest episode where she gets her breasts out in public at the airport.
She looks like she could suck a golf ball through a garden hose.
Nora is kind of a b***h in this show, and if her arc of being a bawd doesn't end on her having a Frankenstein of bodyparts to put Mr. Freeze head on top I'll be disappointed.
>Nora is shorter than Harley without her hi flops.
I need to see that tiny b***h getting railed by that huge swamp thing immediately. Where the drawgays at?
Just use AI bro
ai is shit for porn they make it that way intentionally otherwise every bot would be shitting out nothing but excellent porn like how every learning bot becomes racist.
I mean Freeze is dead? What, should she become a nun?
you people talk like she's a real fricking person, and not a character that was written. loregay really is an apt description of these type of super-immersed weirdos who can't have critical discussions about narratives.
It's fun.
What are you gonna about it, homosexual?
>hurr, it's fun to be a moron who can't critically discuss a show because i'm too autistic to understand it's not real
yeah. real fun, you fricking loonie.
So you are gonna do nothing, like a bottom b***h homosexual.
I made you respond, moron.
>hurr the only choice is a nympho bawd or a chaste nun
How about just not having her be a drugged out bawd as her supposed "coping" Victor's death? There are other routes you could take the character outside club bawd. She was clearly mad at Harley when she first woke up, make her the new ice villian that has a vendetta on Harley and tries to kill her for a few episodes.
>Nora replaces Freeze after his sacrifice
That would actually be a great storyline to continue after Fries gets wholly swallowed up in saving her as DC can't seem to move past that part of his character.
There is still joke potential too, like have her shivering and cold during her first attacks because Victor's tech was built with his cold immune body in mind.
>her nipples keep getting hard like icicles without her realizing
She can also start learning from what research Fries left behind since I don't think she was a cryogenic researcher prodigy like he was. And just so to be clear, I'm not even talking about this shitty show, I'm talking about DC canon.
That would be a good way to explain learning to use that kind of tech. Personally my main interest would be to see Mr. Freeze suit in a sleeker design for a female body. As far as I recall most women with ice powers have it as a internal power like Killer Frost.
>Killer Frost.
Isn't her ability more of heat absorption rather than ice powers?
Probably, the main point is that it's not from a gadget or suit.
I mean Captain Cold was not generally a scientist, but rather someone who chose to study a weapon inside and out.
I'm sure freeze left enough research for Nora to understand how the gun and suit works.
>Freeze has a secret stash of letters he has prepared for his wife to read written to her everyday in the event she finally gets cured of her illness and things will go back like they were like she never got sick
Would unironically be kino.
Maybe some time to mourn before inhaling wiener like it was oxygen would be a fair compromise
To some anons in this thread, her sucking wiener is her mourning. It's strange and distasteful but I can see an American millennial writing it.
We know. People are complex. Sex is like drugs and alcohol, she is dealing with it horribly.
Norra is more Harley quinn then Harley quinn.
is that the joke or is it played as a empowerment thing, if its 2 thats just sad man
both, because harley quinn show is cowardly and must hide its agenda behind a facade of
>"lol, we're just kiddingggggg, and you can't actually criticize us because of that!"
>That new Cyberpunk anime on Netflix is full of uncensored breasts and bush
>Harley Quinn show can't even show a single uncensored nipple despite being a streaming-exclusive and clearly being aimed at adults
What in the hell is wrong with American animation?
>Implying
You knownthey are aiming this at easily manipulated tweens and autists.
>You knownthey are aiming this at easily manipulated tweens and autists.
That also applies to the Cyberpunk anime, so that's a moot point.
I will reiterate, what the hell is wrong with American animation?
are you pretending to not know about puritan values just for the sake of rhetoric, or...?
Americans lose their shit at nudity, especially nudity in animation.
Which that doesn't make since considering Harley Quinn is an adult show.
It was completely jarring seeing Trigger animate that.
Was it?
Did you forget about how horny Panty & Stocking was?
Or pretty much all their other shows?
Panty and Stocking had a POV cowgirl sex scene? PSG was just cheesecakey in general.
trigger(gainax) literally made kill la kill and has always been known for taking risks.
if anything i applaud it and its why they are so well loved.
that and them being ahead of the curve and setting the very tropes and gimmicks other anime studios copy years later.
>bush
Lame! Give me the full vag you fricking pussy (lol) nips!
I don't think they even showed full on erect penis and you want full labia and all?
If only America would fricking embrace animated porn.
Animation industry needs to go through major antitrust suit first
>every industry needs to go through major antitrust suit
ftfy
A lot of Americans are REALLY stupid. If they see something is animated they assume that it's for children, regardless of rating or context, and then they will get mad at the creators or platform showing it, because they didn't pay attention when they showed it to their children.
The worst part is that the only recent American adult animated show that shows female nudity (that I'm aware of, anyway) is fricking Big Mouth
Big Mouth showed a 5-year-old rubbing her crotch on a pillow and getting off on the act and nobody really gave a shit, which I found baffling in today's culture.
>Big Mouth showed a 5-year-old rubbing her crotch on a pillow and getting off on the act and nobody really gave a shit
just like my doujinshi
Big Mouth is shit and bad but I respect the one time they showed female nudity was for “female empowerment” reasons rather than fanservice. it was still an out of touch model but at least if was made for a reason rather than “haha boobies”
Americans and the west try to make it ugly.
Well, what is she supposed to do? Mourn him forever and die alone? This is what men will never understand.
refer to
lorehomosexuals are actually fricking brainless.
Imagine being four years into a show that has made its bread and butter from fan engagement both positive and negative and still taking the bait and giving it free publicity.
Shutting up is free, OP.
A leftist show would lie to you and have her go through emotional turmoil for months, only to meet a nice kind man that she eventually settles down with. This is the more accurate reality of women.
Yes.
prostitutes are women too.
Doesn't mean all women are prostitutes.
Why do people keep failing this basic logic check?
He told her to live her life to the fullest, and that's what she's doing. He's looking down proud that she's so happy.
So he's a cuck?
Does Bible promote cuckoldry by permitting widows to re-marry?
We're far from reaching for the Bible when Nora's been splaying herself all around town as you would imply "that's what would make both of them happy" . I don't even know why you're asking to the point of marriage since that's clearly not what Nora's doing. And to answer your question, no it isn't since it is protected via the sanctity of holy matrimony as a sacrament.
You wanted her to be miserable after? For 10 years at least?
Her husband has hurt countless people, why would she want to stay loyal to him?
Do you think wives of serial killers need to turn into prison wives and not be with anybody else when their husband gets the chair?
Serial killers tend not to become insanely popular with women until after they go to prison. What this says about women is probably better left unsaid.
I am sure if female criminals (if they existed) were hot a lot of men would go after them too.
Whoa a show that's been bad since season 1 continues to be bad? FRICKING COLOR ME SHOCKED.
>women owe you sex
what fricking moron believes that?
>men owe you love
what fricking moron believes that?
The catch is that taking care of someone is considered part of being a decent person, sex isn't.
Taking care of the people you love us being a good person.
Equating fricking to love is what prostitutes who don't understand what being a good partner is.
Giving me pussy isn't the same as giving me love. You know that.
Pretending you don't is a gaslight to hide how you conflate the two in an arbitrary manner to gain power in relationships.
Nora is doing fine on love.
The moral of the story is: DON'T dedicate your life to women. They're not your property, and they won't feel owned by you after you die.
It's the best lesson men can ever learn in life, and it is being taught by feminists. Why do we hate them again?
The same feminists also want to be relieved the benefits if a girlfriend or wife from ransom men. Including love protection and dick no matter who they are or how said men feel.
Nobody is forcing you to marry or to have a girlfriend. What else?
That has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted you knob.
I said random feminists who a man doesn't know wants wife, girlfriend, frickbuddy privileges from just random as frick men they don't even know and may even want nothing to do with then simply because they want it.
How does that work.
You're an idiot.
Is anybody forcing you to have a wife or a girlfriend? Say yes or no.
>DON'T dedicate your life to women
>by feminists
I need you to actually read a book from a feminist, especially one from the second or third wave since that deals heavy critique on the male sex as a whole.
From what I've read, it is mostly correct. Men are moronic, and it is precisely their possessive ideas that make them suffer. In this sense, they're correct.
I get the feeling that white claws typed this post.
>DON'T dedicate your life to women.
Ding Ding Ding
Do something else, they are ok. They can take care of themselves. Just live your life, dude.
Until society realizes that men themselves are not expendable goods meant to be used to support itself, nothing will change. And that can only happen if you are willing to just leave women alone.
The type of moron who populates this website, sadly.
As times passes, I feel more and more disillusioned with my heterosexuality. Is there a way to get a brain operation to turn me gay, or asexual?
No. if that were true, then Christian gay conversion camps would work.
Y'know men write this show right? Like the showrunners are dude. Can't blame women on this one OP, this is a guy problem.
Cinemaphile is such a fricking coozefest, holy shit, no wonder every other board hates it.
Every attractive woman I've ever known is a bawd in one way or another. Even some of the not-so attractive ones have been as well. Honestly, I'm kind of a bawd too and I'm a dude. It's fine. It's part of life. Go outside.
It's not fine when you hurt others by being a bawd.
Who's being hurt? If someone gets hurt (emotionally) by a bawd that's their problem.
I'm sure Nora is grateful to Freeze for saving her. she's just not wasting the life he gave her.
That face of her sucking on the keg nozzle is so cute.
Did they cut the animation budget this season? Seriously whenever the characters start moving their arms or heads it's really janky. Like they just don't bother with in-betweens any more.
>Did they cut the animation budget this season
yes
This was during the at&t merger i think. After the discover merger im not surprised if the show will be animated like henry danger cartoon
I have a problem with how they written Nora too but amazingly I blame the writers and not feminism.
But aren't the writers doing it out of pleasing the feminist eye/overlords?
Every time Nora is revived she's a b***h who couldn't care less about Freeze.
EVERY SINGLE TIME.
I guess anons just want them to have one good ending and to finally put this repeated story to rest
Batman can't even get his good ending himself. Freeze is super boned.
Batman is a main character of his own respective franchises, status quo is a big deal to his character. Freeze is just another villain in his rogues' gallery that hasn't moved beyond his Nora arc.
>husband dies for you
>imidiantly become a bawd
>h-he wanted her to live her b-best life!
is this the cope the fans are saying? I heard it was a shitty show but jesus
Anons here have said that her being a bawd is her coping. I think it's strange to me because I don't think men mourn their dead gfs or wives by fricking other women wholesale. I think it's on par for women to see it as reasonable to a certain degree? I certainly don't understand it.
>I don't think men mourn their dead gfs or wives by fricking other women wholesale.
Men usually don't miss entire years of their life due to cryogenic sleep.
No, they miss most of their entire lives being NEETs.
>comic heroine dies
>hero immediately starts dating another girl
You don't feel so outraged when this happens, do you?
Not that anon but I'd feel that would be incredibly stupid. Just like how in Punisher MAX, Frank keeps going on and on about his family and holding on to his wife and child's memory but he fricks prostitutes and women, to the point of siring a kid into the world he knows he can't care for. Shit just doesn't add up.
Yeah, actually, I would be mad if a character immediately started fricking the closest girl at the funeral.
I wouldn't.
Would subvert the frick out if that women in fridges trope.
Oh noes some broad I knew for a year died and was stuffed in my fridge
I should dedicate my life to vengen....
Damn
The redhead in the front row is thicc and she giving me the go signal.
Excuse myself yo go yo bathroom shebgets the hint follows soon after
Bang her back out in the church bathroom.
My hand over her mouth to prevent screaming.
>Would subvert the frick out if that women in fridges trope.
Not at all.
It would.
No more women being used as driving forces of vengeance.
Would be seen as collateral damage, like every other person joker kills when he breaks out of the loony bin.
cyclops?
What kind of a stupid question is that? Of course it cheapens the authenticity of the character.
Some of it was because fan service and some was cause she was going through a lot like clay face said
>they really showed breasts
huh? the israelites finally learned from japan
Is this real? The animation is so choppy and the censor is like those bad hentai censors
real, half the episodes are like that in S3
Even Harley cannot stand it.
I thought we were suppose to laugh at simps?
Dolls are the future, it are pure and loyal, even customizable into your waifu harem
Next season
And it's clearly depicted as a sad, depressed, self-destructive thing
First girl I find hot from this show. They do know their audience
Watch bad shows, get to see garbage. Not sure what you were hoping to accomplish, OP. Just let it rot in obscurity.
>introduce Mr Freeze as the one unproblematic guy
>immediately kill him off
what did they mean by this
The lesson is that it literally doesn't matter how much you sacrifice for women or how much of an 'ally', you are, the moment you so much as turn your back they're going to be dropping you into the ground and going off into the sunset like you never existed.
If you're talking from personal experience it's your problem bro. I just treat women with respect like every other human being. If you're actually "sacrificing" yourself for women it just means you're a pussy that would be taken advantage of, no matter the gender.
Im talking about Mr.Freeze, moron
Modern women are trash
I only watch the show because Harley is fricking hot
that's female nature to you
Repeat after me: ISLAM! IS! RIGHT! ABOUT! WOMEN!
Is the moral not to self sacrifice yourself for other people?
It'd be a pretty selfish and lame sacrifice if she was supposed to be a celibate shut-in.
>Whole thread defending a prostitute behavior
Just when this place couldnt gone more downhill,this happens
i mean this is the cartoon part of Cinemaphile you kinda expect mentally ill man-children being this homosexualy.
Prior to woke shit taking over this site, prostitute behavior was well received.
Why have a got the feeling this is gonna lead Nora to become a revengeful villain. (Mrs/Miss Freeze if you may)
Harley has proven and shown she is no psychiatric help what so ever. Its only a matter of time now before Nora realises that Harley is nothing but poison and lashes out.
All this sex and drugs will never fill that heart
People really forgot Nora was always a terrible person though. Even in the original Batman cartoon she got remarried fairly quickly after Vic's ambiguous passing. And in the comics she's like a fem Freeze. Like we mythologized the beautiful woman trapped in the glass prison while her lover slaves away to save her but we don't actually know anything about her. Victor worsen his own life for her and we as the audience are made to think that he shouldn't just let her go.
I doubt she was snorting coke and drinking liquor from her anus while married to Victor.
The thing about Cinemaphile is no one on this board has had sex so everyone here is super fricking weird about it. When for alot of folks its pretty normal.