Just binged the entire four season of this show
What did I think of it?
I need someone to tell me my opinion of it, thank you very much.
Mr.Robot
Just binged the entire four season of this show
What did I think of it?
I need someone to tell me my opinion of it, thank you very much.
>ROBOTS ARE... LE BAD!
wow groundbreaking stuff great job vince
is that all I thought about the show?
It was boring
Really,
Why did I think it was boring?
You fricking hate Christian Slater because he is a terrible actor
pretty kino, soundtrack and cinematography are good but it definitely drags when Elliot isn't on but it was very captivating.
>pretty kino,
When someone uses pretty with kino, what they really mean is, it's okeyish to good. So, it's not even good. Kino is like A, A+, pretty kino is like a B- borderline C. There is only A, B and C, D entertainment is like pealing off your skin for fun.
you do have a point, my good sir
If you watch it once or even twice (if you turn your disbelief a lot) it's very good, top notch entertainment. But it's really garbage, even season 1, and yes, season 1 is the best season, but it's still pure garbage.
>I need someone to tell me my opinion of it
I always watch kids on youtube that pretend to be tv and movie 'critics' to tell me what to think of a show or movie.
Can you name some of these kids?
just google Top 10 YouTube Movie Critics and you get to find them. I also use youtubers to tell me how to think and what to think of some political issues. I have been told you guys in Europe don't do that.
>I also use youtubers to tell me how to think and what to think of some political issues.
Many man would not have your honesty.
And I also liked this show. I liked the soundtrack, the cinematography and the references. But I liked the small details the most and the puzzly and foreshadowing aspect of the show
I think it's a ok show, better then most, but I don't think it's kino, just ahead of the curve. It looks pretty cool though, that Vera chapter is fricking incredible in aesthetics alone, I watched that 4 times at least, so creepy and idk, just fricking cool.
It sucked. It had potential initially, but rapidly devolved into pointless twists and subversive mind games dressed up and stylized with tons of superficial references to popular things thrown in to make you feel smart and like it.
I think a lot of the problem with movies/shows that attempt to use or tackle "hacking" or IT or well professions that don't envolve much action, is that well reality is pretty underwhelming when compared with movies and tv shows, we watch them because we want to see something or be entertained, hacking is not very entertaining, maybe the thrill of the victory is, but it's work, grueling work, and there "action", so, how would you embellish the story? What is this potential you speak of? It's literally a normal dude or girl sitting in front of a normal computer trying stuff and reading documentation. What potential are you talking about? Hacking is boring as frick.
Very good show. I am saddened how it morphed from cool techno whiz things to super spy bring down the mega corp also I'm crazy kind of story.
Masterfully shot. It did get boring in some places. The whole time I watched I just wondered how the show was financed
Tie for favorite episode are when Elliot goes to the movies with Trenton's brother and when the show was a hokey sitcom
He should've slept with his therapist
also the muslim girl was really cute
glad I'm not the only one.
also his sister, I'm still angry that when she yelled "I'm your sister" he didn't just shrug and say "so?" then cut to the next scene of them fricking while she repeats "I'm your sister" over and over, truly a missed opportunity that ruined the whole show, but at least they kissed
>he didn't just shrug and say "so?"
Dude, dude, this scene you described is perfect, the rest is shit but this, frick he even have the bug eyes, just imagine the scene, they could have used the same shots, just change this detail, frick this is genius, for real, this would be excellent, and I think it does fit well with Mr. Robot character. Oh, I'm just imagining the scene.
it seemed like elliot had some feelings for her. i dont know why they never explored that relationship.
when she was seeing mr robot, the sexual tension was palpable
Him not sleeping with her is the biggest load of bs in the show imo.
"The best way to hide the truth is in plain sight" -God
This thread sucks. Show had its highs in Season 1 and 3 and some of 4. Season 2 was a slog but it was used strictly for world building. Soundtrack throughout, original score specifically, Mac Quayle did a wonderful job. At the very least that stayed consistent. The hacking and technology aspects and portrayal are better than most if not all other attempts in movies and TV shows. I'd give the show a 8/10. Mainly because I liked what started and what unfolded throughout and felt like a technological noir set piece althroughout. Action wise it was taken where necessary and when it called for it. The create Sam Esmail made it clear he wanted to stay faithful to how technology worked and the nuances of hacking, software, hardware, and social engineering worked as much as he and his team could.
Show overall scores big points with those who delve in the cybersecurity/server administration stuff and as long as you're not some pedantic autist you can enjoy it for what its worth and appreciate how they attempted as best as they could to stay grounded with those concepts.
>The create Sam Esmail made it clear he wanted to stay faithful to how technology worked and the nuances of hacking, software, hardware, and social engineering worked as much as he and his team could.
Saying nuance, and throwing words around does't make it so, the "faithful" is pure garbage from the Ron coffee scene to the last bit, all garbage. The Ron coffee scene in special it is laughable, and as the show unfolds it becomes more and more tech deus ex-machina, the FBI hack has no connection with reality, none. It's just pure fiction. Maybe he really worked hard to make it watchable, but yeah, it looks cool, but it's mostly bullshit and deus ex-machina.
This show has four seasons?
why
>why
Money.
It was supposed to be a very long movie or a mini show of one season.
>it was all a dream
stupid reddit ending for stupid reddit shoe
The show is fricking kino and this thread is filled with filter reddit gays who should stick to consooming Yidnsey Goyslop.
You have to have some willing disbelief, much like any modern show, to accept some the hacking premises (banking system, ecorp, multiple burning buildings). But compared to breaking bad where “this crystal blows up a whole room yet we survive or this man can survive and explosion, maintain half his face and and still fix his tie, Mr Robot is far more digestible.
Like Lost, it’s a show that a actual thematic tones, most predominantly loneliness. The showcasing of which is most notable in narration but more so (if your not a pleb) through spacing in the rule of thirds. On the point of cinematography it has the best single episode of all TV - S4E7 - “Proxy Authentication Required”. Whether that’s the filming, lighting, change to aspect ratio, original score or the phases of grief vis a vis the “stages” of the episode. In addition to that episode, you have S3E5 which is an entire episode in single take or the bookending dialogue of S4E5.
Also, it’s probably the most based show in the last 20 years: israelites control banks, don’t trust corporate backed crypto currencies, chinks will steal your tech, poos in loos like kiddy porn, troonys are mental ill and will eventually commit suicide, all the gay characters get killed.
>Jews control banks,
Yeah but then he undestroys it like a pussy. Should have left israelite-corp dead.
>faithful to how technology worked
>always logs in as root
Smh
Great show though
Mental illness incarnate.
I literally skipped the finale because it went so off the rails sci fi that it genuinely ruined it for me.
Someone tell me was the finale real or just in Elliots head?
It was "real", completely oz, but "real".
It was real but elliot was fake.... You wouldn't get it
>supposed to be a literally me reclusive nerd
>Has had sexd
I've had sex before, literally ez
I haven't.
I watched the first 3 season then dropped it. I enjoyed 1 and 2 somewhat but 3 was such a fricking drag. Is 4 worth coming back
If you liked the show for the weird surreal elements then you'll like 4 because it doubles down on it. It's my favorite season because every episode is doing something unique.
Fug. I enjoyed it most when it was mostly hacking shit or Eliot being an awkward weirdo like in season 1. Thats why I didnt really like season 3. What it did in season 3 was well done but just not something to me personal taste.
>It's my favorite season because every episode is doing something unique.
No, it's your favorite season because it's more vivid and it has more action, like you said, the craziness is doubled down and it has action in every episode. It's very fast paced, like a distortion of the series build up, that's how fast paced it is when compared to seasons 1 to 3.
Stopped watching beginning of Season 2 bc the show is dumb
I thought it was pretty good
I liked the song that goes do do do do do do do do doooo
It's shit, all style no substance, no idea what hacking is or what someone like Elliot would be like. The most interesting thing about it was the Swedish businessman but even that was infantile ("greed/ambition is... LE BAD") and short-lived.
>all style no substance
That is the bases of the Cyberpunk genre.
The hacking is on the dot, super realistic, they worked very hard to put as much realism in it as they could.
>The hacking is on the dot, super realistic, they worked very hard to put as much realism in it as they could.
As far as I remember, they don't even show/state how anything gets hacked, just "I hacked this" and "I hacked that". Maybe that's because I dropped the show in season 2.
For there to be realistic hacking we would have had to see Elliot at his desk for weeks reading documentation and trying different inputs to a program/server to see if he can break it. The only remotely realistic tech conversation I remember is the "I see you're running Linux" cringe.
It is very realistic bro, they are not going to make a tutorial of how he hacked something, duh.
>how do I portray a social loner by their desktop choice?
>but keep the general audience intrigued by not going too in depth about why this aesthetic or configuration is preferred, if even necessary
>I'll have them casually notice what normal drones would consider "tech guy" thing because Linux is/was basically alien to the Microsoft masses
>fan response
>"Noticing people running a different system is just cringe"
>"all style no substance"
But that IS what substance there would be. That's it.
I don't gush about my GUI in the office, that makes me look like a spastic, I just small talk about it.
It had legitimately the best ENDING of any series of that length in recent history (to not say in the history of all time). Anything that happened on the very last episodes made perfect sense about riddles set up in the very first season.
So it wasn't exactly a 10/10 series at all times but because of that extraordinary feat it does deserve the 10 score.
yeah, perfect ending. the show is more or less a movie he wanted to make but stretched out, so he already knew all the twists. most modern shows just wing it and don't have a clear finish line in mind from the start
All I care about is, if Elliot wasn't such a tool, would the machine work?
season 1 is shitty fight club rip off, it gets good in season 2 and really good in seasons 3-4, but only if you can ignore the gaycommie propaganda
It was pretty cool. I only watched the first 3 seasons tho
Season 4 is good and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
You really liked it but u still haven't finished the last episode after 3 years of watching it
absolute garbage. the nuances of the hacking elements are irrelevant - the characters are dogshit, the story and pacing are dogshit, the ideas are fricking moronic and aren't meaningfully explored - it's dogshit to the core. it incorporates interesting elements without building on them or understanding them at all. it's like it was written by a teenager trying to feel smart by skimming a book and regurgitating some important sounding words without actually reading into them. if you like this show you are a fricking moron. it's the drama equivalent of jangling keys in front of a baby's face.
Never managed to finish it. Got bored midway throw season 2. But season 1 was really good.
same here anon.
"Altered Carbon" and "Rome" were similar stellar season 1s which fell off in #2
>"Altered Carbon"
Such a potential it had, but they got too drunk on the wiener and then they fricked season 2, salvageable, but again, drunk with wiener.
I feel embarrassed to say this, but I actually thought they got obama to cameo in this show and had to google it...
It does take an out of nowhere pivot to Chyna being the bad guy around season 2 and 3. Esmail almost comes off as a closet neocon
An army of faceless, nameless yellow men running around NYC in leather biker suits and killing Americans with impunity is Breitbart-esque yellow panic. The worst part is that you wouldn't even need Chinese operatives doing wet work. Truth is, after something as big as the collapse of New York financing, hundreds of F Society copycats and even hard militias would pop up like weeds in the aftermath. All China would have to do is give them guns and money. Basically China giving America a taste of it's own Century of Humiliation suffered from 1839-1949.
What we got was an infinitile take that has as much nuance as Red Dawn. Esmail should've just stuck to 'billionaires bad' because he clearly has no idea how geopolitics, espionage, diplomacy, etc work. Shit, the PRC 'annexes the Congo' in the show... whatever the frick that is supposed to mean. But then again, maybe it was all a deam so that's why it's all so moronic ahhh!!!
yeah, E corp shifted somewhere during the seasons and dark army is suddenly the True mastermind behind everything
You liked it a lot but you pretend it's garbage reddit shit.
S1 was absolute kino and it should have ended there. It's clear that after that Esmail smelled his own farts and tried to be a pretentious douchebag as possible, combined with inserting his moronic liberal views into the story.
First season was god tier. Pseuds like to call S1 redit and say S2 waa better when in actuality S2 was pretty lame and boring and killed all popular momentum for the show. S3 was a return to being based as frick before S4 settled in to a solid level until the inevitable ending that is always a letdown but somehow this shows ending wasnt quite as bad as most. If it wasnt for shitty S2 this show would be talked about and remembered with the all time greats like Breaking Bad and Sopranos.
I love them both.
SHEWASSOCUTE!
ARRRGGHH
>entire four season
wow was it really only four seasons? i would have guessed 6. it seemed so long.
it had its good and bad features. i enjoyed it in a general way. some really great scenes/episodes, and some others that didn't really impress me. i really don't know how to take the writing and treatment of various characters. it leaves me feeling just conflicted/unsure about any sort of opinion one way or the other.
Mr. Robot is like that distant cousin who comes to visit you with his family from time to time. He's stupid, boring, his mere presence exposes you as the failure you are.
But you love him anyway.
>Tyrell
Good character in S1, pointless end (da blue screen of death woaaahh I'm directing)
>Tyrell's wife
Hot
>Angela
Had a lot of potential but killed for literally no reason
>Darlene
Kind of annoying and pointlessly lezzed out
Sam Esmail took a bunch of half baked ideas, stirred them together, and then baited Reddit sleuths into bending into pretzels to make sense of it.
's wife
>Hot
she's only hot when she's not showing any emotion, otherwise her face is weird
>(da blue screen of death woaaahh I'm directing)
Poorly executed. If there was a point or subtext, I never got it.
>Tyrell's wife
She deserved her own Red Team. We got cheap shock value instead.
>Angela had a lot of potential but killed for literally no reason
Production doing damage control the best they could. Well executed shock value.
>Darlene
IMO the character was not used correctly. If there was sexual abuse in the family, she was the key to gradually uncovering it over the course of the series for the audience, but instead all the references to Nabokov seemed like background noise.
>>(da blue screen of death woaaahh I'm directing)
Please don't remind me how painful to watch that bullshit was, they build up something good, and then shit all over it. Like they were in a hurry and say
>this will be fine, it will be fine.
What I understand is that there was a serious problem with the story and they corrected course in some Cinemaphile way.
Irving, Cannavale's character, exists to fix that "structural" problem, taking care of Wellick. There is a deleted scene where Irving is talking to someone about the Elliot/Wellick relationship from S1 and S2 and it's basically Cannavale talking and giving advise to the writers rooms.
>min 1:19
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In the end, for me, Irving is a missed opportunity. I love the character. I NY wise guy inside a cybersecurity story, I mean, come on. What the frick do something with him. Frick.
yeah, a lot of the deaths kind of felt like just the writer going "phew, glad we tied up that narrative thread"
This one was by far the worst. He had such a cool set-up with Elliot and they just wasted him as some fricking useless side character in the next seasons. And his whole character can be summarized as... being weird, I guess? All the character devleopment in the latter seasons seems to have been invested in Esmail's troony fetishism.
>Esmail's troony fetishism.
I have to say that the character selling ecstasy to Elliot was very well designed from a costume standpoint and well executed in performance. And well written.
But Esmail not doing a single femboy is criminal. Imagine a grey hat femboy. WHY THE FRICK NO?
>All the character devleopment in the latter seasons seems to have been invested in Esmail's troony fetishism.
I think Tyrell saw sex as a form of reverence. I think he should have made a clear advance on Elliott, that would have made more sense to me. Because if not, what was all of that sexual tension build up? Or am I imagining it?
>Esmail's troony fetishism.
it comes with the coding, anon
you can, but at the same time you kind of can't blame him for that.
If Vera was not stabbed was he going to literally try to make Elliott his lil b***h? I feel like there was a lot more sexual tension on that scene, am I reading that wrong? Like bleeding sexual tension, were they going to kiss or something? Yeah all characters seem to have some sort of weird relationship with sex.
In the criminal world, sex has an extra dimension.
Vera planned to make Elliot his right-hand man, but for that, he must first dominate him. Not sexually, more importantly, emotionally. The sexual dimension exists in the spoken language. "Make him his b***h".
I hate this.
I get that, but it was very weird, and I think there was sexual tension in the air. A lot.
I think it's the only show that captures the gestalt of the zeitgeist we are thrust into. Bravo Slater and Malik.
I loved it while I was still watching it, but I was left IMMENSELY disappointed when it ended leaving all of that stuff unexplained (mainly Whiterose's machine and core belief, how she run the Dark Army, how she turned Angela, what was in that bag after the hack), all of this while also clearly having an internal explanation for them that they intentionally withheld from the public because "the emotional closure of the main character is the only thing that matters" or some bullshit like that.
It fricking dipped in quality after s1, but it's not too bad.