Has anyone read it? Why is it such a big deal?
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Has anyone read it? Why is it such a big deal?
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i have, it was very good i thought. fantagraphics has consistently high publishing standards in terms of print quality which is a plus. but i liked the art and writing. we read it, i shit you not, for a comics literature class i took at uni while we were focussing on non-big 2 publications and efforts to remain outside the standard formulas for capeshit.
if you havent read it i would certainly recommend it, even if only for the experience of reading something new. try it online rather than buying first, just because it was a bit expensive if i remember correctly, and it isnt really a "shelf item" for everyone.
good class to have picked out this rather than something like Watchmen.
I wouldn't want Watchmen taught in classes like that only because it would spoil Watchmen for many people. It's a great comic and a lot of the enjoyment comes from spotting the less-noticed things yourself.
>comics literature class i took at uni
imagine the brain damage you would have to have to pay for this
you paid for it, i went to college on the government's dime, sucker
Ok
What was your favorite part anon?
My favorite part was when (You) didn't even quote the right post!
i think it took him like 40 years to write or something
i keep seeing it but yeha i dont get the hype either
>i think it took him like 40 years to write or something
isn't that like a record Guinness or something? I know it took the Monsters guy like 30 years to make the comic.
I meant this. 35 years in the making, apparently.
well worth the read as well. truly a moving piece of art and it almost pains me to say that about a medium build for funny animals and capeshit
I thought it was a bit too scatterbrained and had absolutely atrocious pacing for what is just essentially a ripoff of the Hulk.
thats funny i thought it was very tight and well edited. to each their own though, glad you read it at least!
It's more of an overall story pacing issue for me, the moment to moment stuff was fine. It's just kind of silly that more than half the comic's length is spent entirely within nested flashbacks.
oh i can get that. i liked it personally because i think that one thing that this medium can do a lot more easily and with structural integrity is play with time, but i can totally get why not everyone would. thanks for your response, i appreciate when it isnt just shit flinging here.
Yeah, don't get me wrong, the art is great and it has some really strong character moments. I just think the execution is sort of muddled in a lot of places.
yea that's totally fair. i am also the type to get swept up by "big picture" storytelling. the black guy's arc about seeing destiny or whatever played me like a fiddle, so i wont pretend i'm not biased 😉
Agreed.
The Hulk is a ripoff of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.
if you dont get it but havent read it, just read it. you might not like it, and thats totally fine, not everyone will like this book. but only a moron would want to read less.
I lost interest and didn't finish. I don't like how women write comics for some reason. The art was nice and elaborate.
A woman drew it, in ballpoint pen.
This one wasn't very good either. I did finish it, though. It was a pretty quick read.
Mazzucchelli did Asterios Polyp in 15 years, and that one's a masterpiece.
It's not that bad.
He doesn't write autobio, not in that way. Plus, his comics have a lot more going for them. They feel more "total" than most comics about anything.
>I don't like how women write comics
care to elaborate?
More in comics than anything else. Books and manga written by women have been alright. But for some reason comics written by women are jarring in a way I can't describe. Imagine a story that spoonfeeds the wrong things, what is obvious, and leaves other things, to which an explanation is vital, completely unexplained. Like the wrong assumptions are made of the average reader. A lot of times, there seems to be little flow in the story's narrative (possibly due to the heavy flow in real life). I'll try to make a thread on this some day once I can get some thoughts together.
More well-rounded in terms of content. Jimmy Corrigan, for example, uses so many tools and little elements, including inactivity, dialogue, monolgue, memory, false memory, daydream, and family history, including the history of the place that helped shape them, just to present a more complete picture of its protagonist. Architecture is pretty important to Ware's comics and hardly anyone talks about this aspect.
I know that women have written many fictional manga, like Fullmetal Alchemist or Dorohedoro, but when Western women try their hands at comics is always some semi-autobiographic stuff, have you noticed this? Things like Persepolis or the comic in question.
But still, some autobiographical comics, written by men, are pretty great.
>They feel more "total" than most comics about anything.
wdym
According to wikipedia it took 6 years.
It started out as a Hulk comic for Marvel.
beautiful read honestly, i also read it in college and it's some of the most unique art and storytelling structure i've ever seen
>le quirky autobiographical comic! check out my sad, pathetic, boring life
I hate modern alternative comics so much its unreal
This is precisely why I hate Chris Ware. It's fricking onanistic writing, essentially reveling in your own filth.
You know when you were really young and your first crush was bride of Frankenstein and you fapped furiously to her daily? Its kinda like that