Name an actor or director working in Hollywood that did NOT get opportunities through a familial connection.
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Name an actor or director working in Hollywood that did NOT get opportunities through a familial connection.
>most people follow their parents footsteps when it comes to careers
>for some reason, in television and film that's le evil and le bad
The most moronic Cinemaphile take by far.
>most people follow their parents footsteps when it comes to careers
source for this claim?
human history?
>too dumb to know what a source is
moron
He’s talking about before society was mind broken into abandoning their families at the first opportunity. Imagine even considering putting strangers ahead of your children.
Are we still living in medieval times? No? Then how about you shut the frick up you lying nepo scum.
Because if you're a doctor your son doesn't just get to be one because you want it to be so they'd still have to go to medical school
peoples lives are not at stake because some dumbfrick movie. the analogy isn’t applicable at all.
His analogy is perfectly valid. That lives are at stake doesn't impact the validity of his argument at all, the point is competency still needs to be proven in other industries, in Hollywood, it's of no relevance.
God you are fricking dumb
>muh stakes
doesn't matter anon
millions and jobs are at stake
>The most moronic Cinemaphile take by far.
That’s literally what your post is. Or possibly solid bait.
>guy becomes a mechanic and opens his own shop
>decent mechanic and attracts lots of customers
>teaches his daughter everything he knows and she takes over his shop when he retires
>customers are suspicious about a female mechanic but their fears are assuaged when she does the same job as her dad and they breath a sigh of relief and are happy to keep supporting the same mechanic shop for decades
>guy becomes a filmmaker
>decent filmmaker and makes lots of money but his film quality deteriorates in his older years as he doesn't retire
>teaches his daughter everything he knows
>daughter makes garbage films while he's still making garbage films
>their films are funded by megacorps even though they're losing money
>people complain that that money could be funding good filmmakers who would make shit people actually want to see
>"OMG NEPOTISM IS FINE EVERYWHERE ELSE WHY DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT HERE?"
That's not a comparable analogy. Mechanics are paid directly by their customers. Directors and actors are paid by the people who fund movies, and then those people are paid by their customers. If anything a better analogy would be to compare directors and actors to independent contractors hired by a firm to do work for them. Imagine you hire a firm to build you a house and they get some lazy dick to do it in four times the time and with 8 times the budget. Of course, nobody is going to accept that, so the firm just loses money since nobody will pay the cost.
most people don't, though. And nepotism is especially bad in Hollywood when you are hired for creative positions, and you are not very creative, industrious or inspired. Anyone, really, can follow in the family business and be a cobbler, or carpenter. Very few people are capable story tellers, cinematographers, production designers, etc.
>most people follow their parents footsteps when it comes to careers
[Citation needed.]
Art is subjective
It's not a real job so to imply there's a skill gene it's laughable
is your dad a shitposter? you're following in his steps?
he's also in the jidf
This is true throughout history. The blacksmiths son would become a blacksmith, etc.
Yeah dude surely the kings spoiled son will be a just ruler
Leftists will defend anything as long as they make chuds seethe.
The right can't meme
Pilpul right on time
That's just how the industry works. Gotta have those connections.
It works that way where I live for trade unions and many municipal jobs too but it’s somehow some nebulous force according to the posters here.
Who cares as long as it’s good
Maybe his daughter has the eye
>Who cares as long as it’s good
I've had this mentality for a long time. The issue is it is no longer good and it hasn't been for a very, long time. Time to open the gates a little.
>Time to open the gates a little
I read this as "time to open the gas", I need a break from this place
>time to open the gas
>Time to open the gates a little
You'd think, wouldn't you? Have you met israelites?
Yeah. I guess they haven't been willing to open any gates to outsiders since Toledo.
More like the nose amirightlads?
>Who cares as long as it’s good
The problem is that for every prodigy who got their break through nepotism like Paul Thomas Anderson, there's a hundred hacks who shouldn't be anywhere near the industry like Phoebe Waller Bridge or Max Landis
Looks like she ablready has a PR team
She definetely got the opportunity thanks to her daddy. She might be good tho, at least let's give her a chance.
Considering that the Nepo baby meme started precisely because 99% of them are so goddamn awful that even normies started to pick up on it and didn't deserve the chance they got, how about we don't?
Seriously. It seems to be the exception more than the rule. Nearly every time I find out I dislike an actor I find out they're someones kid. I hated Dakota Johnson well before I knew she was a fricking 3rd generation actress. She's so damn flat and boring.
If anything Ive learned making it in hollywood really is about connections and not talent. Living there your whole, having this safety net of money and not being the ugliest person in the world, you'll get work. Getting big parts is luck. All the nepo babies are competing with each other over that.
>She might be good
That's a talent filled pic. John gets a pass even if he is a nepobaby. Back from when nepobabies actually had talent.
>Ben Stiller arguing about nepotism
Wew...
Ben stiller proved himself though
>a nepo baby argues that them directing a nepo baby isn't nepotism while another nepo baby and others weigh in
I'm so sick of this clown world lol
>Name an actor or director working in Hollywood that did NOT get opportunities through a familial connection.
most of them didn't.
>Ben Stiller arguing about meritocracy
speaking of nepotism
>I INVENTED NEPOTISM, DOUGLAS!
Ben may be the result of nepotism, but at least he worked his way up.
I remember seeing The Ben Stiller Show back in the early 90s. Took him a while before he was staring in things more than shitty comedies or was directing.
This new generation of nepo babies aren't just having the door opened, but having the red carpet pulled out for them. Sickening.
I mean Ben Stiller surpassed his father by leaps and bounds though. Most people only know his dad as "Ben Stiller's dad" not whatever his actual name is. It's the same thing with Trump, who you instinctively know I mean Donald Trump, even though his dad was the one that let him have his chance in business. If the child surpasses the parent and does great / kicks ass, nobody really cares.
It's when they keep getting roles / jobs even though they suck, simply because of their heritage, that would be a problem. And in Hollywood I don't know of any egregious examples of a no talent hack getting more attention than they deserve. Best I can think of is Will Smith's family, and they are forgotten by now anyway. Everyone else is like some loser D-lister, like Johnny Depp or Kevin Smith's daughters, or some of the losers listed in this very thread. They are going to have money either way, so no use complaining about that aspect. As for notoriety / fame, all of those nepo babies are barely even acknowledged ever.
I get your point but with Jerry Stiller it’s more like his time in the spotlight was basically over when Ben rose up. With that said it could be argued that the son in this case left a bigger cultural impact than the father like you said. Nepotism or not Ben Stiller has natural talent by himself.
Kubrick
Lynch
Tarantino
Fincher
Malick
Eggers
Aster
The list unironically goes on and on
*actors don't matter
>The list unironically goes on and on
Then name 10 more. Also pretty sure Aster's parents and Eggers stepfather helped them with industry connections, though they are at least talented.
>I'm pretty sure...
No you're not
And no, I'm not gonna spoonfeed you. This info is pretty easy to obtain.
>No you're not
Yes, I am.
>And no, I'm not gonna spoonfeed you. This info is pretty easy to obtain.
Because you can't. You couldn't even name ten to begin with.
Finchers dad was a frickin writer ya mong
Kubrick - dead
Lynch - might as well be dead
Tarantino - okay
Fincher - lol
Malick - should have stayed retired
Eggers - meh
Aster - shit
>Sean Penn
He's israeli too, right?
Is this the daughter that was going into porn is that a different one?
His adopted black daughter is the one that went into porn.
her bio mom was a bbc prostitute
so the israelite daughter gets a cushy job and the adopted gentile becomes a prostitute, very funny Spielberg. Maybe it should be illegal for hollywood types to adopt people of color.
Shame she got her dad's israelitey face instead of her mom's face. That's probably why she's directing instead of acting.
her sister Sasha is superior
>those meaty arms and smelly pits
lick lick lick
Adam Devine and Anders Holm
There are a handful of bong actors that are/were working class.
Sean Bean
Gary Oldman
James McAvoy
Jack O’Connell
Ewan Mitchell
Also that skins actor that played Gendry in Got, but he hasn’t been in anything since.
The issue is media has a impact on society same with politics
No one is seriously studying and making concerted efforts to make sure every trash man or construction worker is a certain percent shit skin or certain percent gender.
In a industry that is actively trying to limit your numbers as a demographic nepotism is dangerous as it locks out anyone else from having a chance to a much higher degree
daughters name is Destroy Spielberg
based and accurate name-pilled
Sam Raimi
>nepotism
>diversity riders
>color grading
the death of cinema trifecta
>bawww it's not my fault i'm not successful
massive cope by the untalented moron
Nepo c**t
Frick Mike stoklasa for defending Nepo babies
That sounds like a fricking Onion article.
his name is james cameron, the greatest pioneer
Sofia Coppola turned out to be a really good director. Give this little cooze a chance before you write her off completely. She might have learned a lot from her dad too.
>Sofia Coppola turned out to be a really good director
Go to bed Sofia.
The Spielberg's are too white. Step aside for someone of color
Hollywood has never been a meritocracy, and nobody ever believed it was a meritocracy.
Do non-familial connections made in Hebrew school as children count? I hear that story a lot
The only non-familial connection is the casting couch
yeah, i doubt anyone is gonna watch the movie she makes
lol
This makes me wonder if after a certain point, the nepotism becomes unavoidable due to her last name. Or if there's even a line between nepotism and being used as a selling point? Is this a film anyone would even give a frick about if it didn't have Penn and Spielbergs kids in it?
>Is this a film anyone would even give a frick about if it didn't have Penn and Spielbergs kids in it?
They're in it and no one gives a frick regardless.
not nepotism, just israelitery
Dude is the literal rags-to-riches story. Came from abject poverty to star. He’s a nutcase but who wouldn’t be after working in Hollywood for decades. Respect.
Don't forget that Spielberg also got started thanks to an uncle in the industry landing him a job at a studio
Wonder why in his recent autobiographical film he removed that uncle and instead just showed himself applying to lots of places...
David F. Sandberg
Jeremy Saulnier
Kelly Reichardt
Craig Zahler
Jeff Nichols
Coincidentally, the only directors worth watching.
>Saulnier
>Zahler
He said WORKING as in present tense.
Well if a director sucks balls nobody will waste money to give them more and more movies, unless it's the parent themselves shilling out (a la Will Smith.) So nepotism in Hollywood doesn't get you far. It's not like a nepo baby in business who can hide under some fake job title and collect a paycheck and notoriety for doing nothing. In Hollywood you either are a good actor / director and people give you praise for it, or you aren't and they shit on you. As for money the daughter of Spielburg is never going to be hurting for cash whether or not she directs or stars in any film.
It's fairly innocuous to me.
Who gives a rat's arse?
Kevin Smith