>”I’m filming a historically accurate movie about Napoleon”
>”well actually you have a few things in this movie that are incorrect-“
>”FRICK YOU LOSER GET A LIFE”
why are Hollywood directors and producers like this?
 |
 Ape Out Shirt $21.68 |
|
Napoleonbros
They despise truth. Are you now realizing existing in the film industry means you're a professional liar? That's all acting and film making is. Elaborate lies.
I’m aware they take extensive liberties that often cross the line of overreaching but I don’t understand why he’d call it historically accurate when he could’ve very well said it was an adaptation of history.
And imagine the narcissism you have to have to be a director
>how dare these plebs question MY genius???
>They despise truth. Are you now realizing existing in the film industry means you're a professional liar? That's all acting and film making is. Elaborate lies.
eat shit you fricking christcuck chud homosexual
Did I strike a nerve there wopqweeee n?
When his film is supposed to be a historical biopic, getting the historical part wrong makes it shit.
this movie will either be genius or absolute trash
When was the last time ridley scott made a good movie? 20+ years?
actually two years ago
that's actually a pretty good Robert Duvall costume
The Last Duel would have been good if not for two words
>The Last Duel would have been good if not for two words
I was very surprised as well when Driver and Damon ran up a cliff together and shouted "Black person" and it made a really nice chord. So it wasn't really two words, but one word twice.
The wrong Scott jumped off a bridge.
>genius or absolute trash
or it could be just kind of mediocre.
do you have an actual prediction of the quality of the movie?
The past was blue, deal with it.
can't remember the trailer but when I look at those napoleon stills somehow black sabbath starts playing in my hand.
Digital film was a mistake.
it's not digital that's the problem it's the constant filtering of history with that saturated blue when they were far more vibrant. picrel.
is also right, just watch waterloo for the best napoleon. can't beat 17k people on-screen at once all in full dress and reenacting the battle to the tiniest detail in perfection.
Ken's Henry V is so fricking good. He nailed the muddy misery without any shitty filters.
Yes. It is a true work of art and love for both Henry V's historical character and the Shakespeare play.
Branagh is a hack. He is like a parody of an actor. Mel's Hamlet is superior to Branagh's Hamlet in nearly every conceivable way.
i mean this isn't a discussion on branagh's acting abilities, but i agree he chews the scenery more than necessary when he's directing himself. it's the reason why picrel is his best role.
I was not angry since I came to this board until THIS INSTANT
>it's not digital that's the problem it's the constant filtering of history with that saturated blue when they were far more vibrant. picrel.
hahahahaaa
thank you for literally proving my point. picrel was also filmed with digital and has none of the color washed out.
>have beautiful costumes and setting
>cover it all in a shitty blue filter, to wash away all the beauty.
I don't understand.
He's subconsciously recreating the look of the England of his youth. Have you ever seen Get Carter?
they tint it the same color so you don't notice the atrocious CGI they use for most scenes
we're being fed slop
>Digita
>film
right looks better imo
videogames had this happen too, during late 2000s they looked all grey
blue grading is so soulless, besides slavic winter there is no reason to use it
can't believe they filmed it all underwater, wtf were they thinking
They wanted the Avatar 2 audience
>that slight grainy haze that makes light dreamy
I miss her bros...
TOTAL COLORIST DEATH (TCD)
>Egyptian campaign
Piss filter
>Winter Campaign
Toilet blue filter
How artistic
If it's good as gladiator who cares.
I just watched Violent Night this weekend, and the actor dude was clearly a parody of him.
Just rewatched gladiator yesterday. No chance it will be as good.
The wrong Scott brother committed suicide.
I think he’s going to play him up as some kind of peoples hero vs the monarchies
Which would be really stupid
isn’t that the allure of the Napoleon story?
The allure is seeing him pay the price for his hubris.
It's seeing a man conquer a continent
rise and fall and rise and fall
He’s unironically one of the most kino people to ever exist but there’s no way a movie could capture that since a lot of what makes him kino is background shit that wouldn’t make sense to insert into a two hour movie.
yes
>Napoleon, who himself once distinctly let the cat out of the bag when he said: “I am a child of the Revolution, an offspring of the people. I shall not tolerate being insulted like a king!”
No, I’m here to watch funny chud manlet take over the continent
If it was then he would be a massive hypocrite. He literally randomly appointed family members as monarchs of entire nations like some 3rd world corrupt grifter.
No, the allure is one man taking on the entire world and almost winning.
Probably but it will likely also feature Josephine as some kind of tactical genius who inspired napoleon and taught him how to fight battles or some bullshit.
What an old fool.
honestly ridely scott has never been historically accurate in any of his historical epics lol. expecting him to be accurate now is moronic, he's an old man stuck in his ways
you didnt like his historically accurate Moses movie?
i actually enjoyed this specifically because ridley is an edgy atheist and approached the more outlandish plagues to be more realistic. gators going mad and attacking people to turn the sea red, a tidal wave parting the red sea to allow the israelites to cross, disease killing children and animals, and at the end it still suggests that god is real and omniscient/omnipotent. solid faith kino.
>dei e're
I lost my shit.
This is the one and only movie that got me laid, so it will always have a special place
Who the hell thought making God to be a smartass little kid was a great idea? That kid not only couldn't act, but he was completely insufferable the entire time.
>he was completely insufferable the entire time.
just like the old testament God
The problem was they made him a little kid. That made things even worse then they were.
I didn't understand the scene where Napoleon was worried he couldn't cross into Russia, but then Samuel Jackson appeared in his army ranks and yelled "Black girl magic!"
tell me you used google translate without telling me you used google translate
>do as I say, watch my bad historical take in a dark theater and never again speak of the topic I have thusly closed forever you ACCURATE FREE THINKING MAN
I'd call his work a paint by numbers creative effort but even those have color.
I hate colour filters so goddamn much
I think I'm just going rewatch waterloo instead
Based.
Overrated
God damn it, why didn’t they make Flashman at the Charge into a movie while they were at it, now we’ll never get one.
correct answer
Trying to sum up Napoleon's life in 2-3 hours simply can't be done. It's literally the reason why Kubrick abandoned his Napoleon movie. It will be hilariously rushed and the pacing will be off, and even the 4 hour extended cut will not be enough. The only way it would have worked is if it was like an 8 episode series like John Adams.
>The only way it would have worked is if it was like an 8 episode series like John Adams
that miniseries also felt rushed too. biographies on people like this really need to be like 3 season long stories to really get flesh stuff out
Yeah there are some people who are just so larger than life that a 2 hour movie is almost an insult to them. You can spend 2 hours on his Egyptian campaign alone.
The John Adams miniseries was kino, but you're right. It could have been multiple seasons before he even became President.
>tfw Kubrick's Napoleon never ever ever
When you are able to use AI to make full movies in a few years, this is literally the first prompt I'm going to give it.
>Make Kubrick's lost Napoleon masterpiece, with a haunting score of 20th century classical music by Ligeti and Penderecki, shot with natural lighting like Barry Lyndon. Must be 3 hours run time minimum. Don't care who you cast as Napoleon, just not Ryan O'Neal
You will never be an artist
>Our system has determined you are trying to make a movie about a privileged cis straight white male. Press R to recast all roles as queer persons of color or A to abandon this prompt.
why did kubrick never make this? wasn't he working on it for like 10 years
He realized that Napoleon was too larger than life and his life can't be summed up in a 2-3 hour movie. It's literally unfilmable. Ridley Scott will learn this the hard way.
i believe the shortest cut of the 1927 film is somewhere around 3-4 hours.
Aren't they all the same cut but just at different speeds?
what
no
there's a whole 3.5 hours they cut from that release, the full length thing is about 8 hours.
Also
>Gance planned for Napoléon to be the first of six films about Napoleon's career, a chronology of great triumph and defeat ending in Napoleon's death in exile on the island of Saint Helena. After the difficulties encountered in making the first film, Gance realised that the costs involved would make the full project impossible.
he worked on AI for 20 years and look how that turned out
we're better off with Barry Lyndon
>500 book Cinemaphile autist library
>70mm film
>Comfy character index cards
Was this the film he was most excited to make?
Waterloo just got released and it earned dismal commercial revenue. Big blockbuster historical epics were dying out around this time and studios didn't want to take a chance with a second Napoleon movie.
>Spends over $100 mil telling a story about a guy
>Tell it wrong
It's all getting embezzled, isn't it?
Amadeus (1984)
My reaction to him?
“Retire.”
Ridley Scott is probably the worst living Hollywood director.
The old rumor when I was growing up was that Napoleon personally shot off the nose of the pyramid. When this was widely disproven, they said his troops shot at the great pyramid and damaged it. Now that this was disproven, boomers just say “frick it..whites must bad I’ll put it in my movie anyway” even though it was some Muslim sultan who did all of this centuries ago. Boomers clinging to their false narratives of history where anything resembling fascism had to have been pure evil, then when checked by reality the golem boomer attacks like a diseased dog.
>shot off the nose of the pyramid
I think you meant to write the Sphinx, anon. Anyway I don't think this has anything to do with anti-white stuff, way too many people are just stupidly lazy and will repeat every moronic rumors they hear instead of spending a little time and effort to look into things. It's not like the battle of the Pyramids is some arcane secret, it's well documented and part of every Napoleon biography. But idiots don't like to read books (or, frick it, even wikipedia) and would rather gain their knowledge from Hollywood depictions, so look forward to "Napoleon damaged the Sphinx" going from rumors to common knowledge in less than 20 years.
> I think you meant to write the Sphinx, anon.
Yeah I just woke up and posted that while still bed before coffee.
> Anyway I don't think this has anything to do with anti-white stuff
I think it does. I’m 44 and my whole childhood this story about Napoleon shooting the nose of the sphinx was always presented, usually by boomer white white women, along with a speech about how terrible whites were. It sounds a bit odd but it’s true. In fact, I think this was one of the first anti-white narratives I heard growing up. I remember this speech in schools and by adults discussing history at the time. I had a huge interest in Egypt when I was a kid and was repeatedly given this same flawed lecture about the sphinxes nose from multiple sources and it was a shock to me to find out in the late 90s, online of course, that it was false. It must have been sone boomer thing. This was in the 80s and 90s when it was seen as edgy and witty, rather than mainstream, to drop facts that show whites as flawed and that whites are wise for viewing history objectively. I do think it was a part of laying the foundation for the anti-white narrative, along with films like roots and Schindlers List and other pieces of media propaganda. In the 80s and 90s it was seen as educated and wise to point out some white flaws, but this transformed from dabbling in exceptional stories of whites like being flawed, like this pyramid/sphinx thing, into standardizing these sorts of perspectives to a point where that’s all the dominant forms of media and academia focuses on and whites being good is now seen as the exception. Think early Marvel vs current Marvel, it’s quite similar. The Napoleon thing just couldn't be pushed any further because, in the internet era, the rumor was thoroughly dispelled. It’s actually interesting that he’s leaving the false history into his film. He couldn’t have not known. I think boomers subconsciously need to cling to their anti-white narratives.
It's astounding how readily boomers latch on to anti-white narratives like this. I've noticed it a lot in my parents and their friends, they won't even do something as cursory as double-checking on Wikipedia (which is anti-white biased if anything but will still dispel a lot of bs like the sphinx), they'll just eagerly repeat a narrative they heard on cable TV or boomerlib Facebook. The eagerness is the most troubling part, it's like they want to believe whites are big baddies but they're one of the enlightened good ones. TV and lack of contradicting narratives during their formative years really did a number on their information processing habits and moral framing. There are exceptions of course.
>Trailers constantly name Napoleon a "tyrant"
>Was generally beloved by his kingdom and imperial holdings even after staging a coup
Is Hollywood going to go for the other monumental monarchs as well?
just because the french are and always were moronic doesn't mean that Napoleon wasn't a tyrant
>mon Science et évolution! after so many years of Le Revolution and killing our own countrymen in the name of comm- I mean, liberty, we have to settle on a style of government! remember that we hate monarchy and the church!
>Oui oui! I suggest we elect a king, non! AN EMPEROR! FOR DEMOCRACY AND LIBERTY!
You've never read a book in your life.
whoa Ahmed and Pierre! calm down!
maybe sucking some buttered snails will make you feel better??
keep crying, poor person
shouldn't you be busy burning cars, homes and businesses because some black in America died and you want to show solidarity in the traditional french way?
go on, shoo.
typical anglo butthurt look at the sorry state of your shithole before tossing any stones you brain addled mong
I'm American you moron, just didn't buy into public goyslaving like you clearly did lmfao
Our first allies were the French
Napoleon is one of the greatest men who ever lived + he died repentant
seethe for 200 more years
>Napoleon is one of the greatest men who ever lived + he died repentant
There was a plot to rescue him from St Helena so he could be Emperor of South America. Then the English poisoned him.
>Then the English poisoned him.
figures, they didn't know how to take an L
hey, at least Hitler made it to South America ;D
>public education: the post
lmao Imagine being butthurt by the fricking French
~~*They*~~ won’t allow hollywood directors to make historically accurate films
you need at least 40 hours to do a Napoleon movie justice
Historical authenticity is always better than inaccuracies or fictionalizations. The only reasons to not incorporate it would be laziness of the production, or laziness of the writing.
An inaccurate historical film can still be a great film, but making it authentic is a net positive. And since a lack of it stems from laziness, it will always be a valid criticism against a film.
Ridley being old, cranky and senile.
Should have retired 15 years ago.
Based Ridley
The only thing worse than watching a movie with a dumb b***h who constantly asks questions about what's going on is the neckbeard autist constantly "acktuallly"ing the movie on its historical inaccuracies or deviations from the novel source material.
>>”I’m filming a historically accurate movie about Napoleon”
He never said this. Movies aren't real. They're just performances. Grow a brain.
I guess it's ok for Hollywood to subtly lie about history and present it to the drooling moronic masses who think they are being educated about history through the film. Nothing could go wrong by doing that.
my truth my lived experience objectivity is nazi and racist
>hey audience, FRICK YOU!!!!!!
why are they like this? It's not like they're making high-art or anything. Why are they so confident? Anyone can make slop like Ridley Scott. Is he just so well connected that he'll always get work no matter badly he fricks up?
The veneer of Hollywood has slowly faded away so instead of fooling with the peasantry with a modicum of panache, actors and higher-ups simply spit and yell at them directly.
Standard leftist response
>existing in the film industry means you're a professional liar? That's all acting and film making is.
"When is a lie not a lie?" Jeremy Irons' character asks his servant— "When it is acting, Master," she responds
Ridley Scott has caused irreparable harm to the historical epic genre
>This summer...
>Europe’s favorite midget..
>Is coming to the big screen!
>*cuts to Napoleon played by Vin Diesel*, “ Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.. homie!”
>*Ke$ha starts playing WAKE UP IN THE MORNING FEELING LIKE P DIDDY*
>*Napoleon wakes at the battle of Waterloo, his alarm is still going off and he can't hear his soldiers screaming, scrolls through some messages, looks up as his minister of war Louis-Alexandre Berthier (played by Rebel Wilson) bursts in and screams “Napoleon you dumbass, did you forget what day it is?!”
>*Napoleon shoots out of bed, runs outside in bunny Pajamas*, “Aw, shit! Not again!”
>THIS SUMMER..
>*montage of slap stick comedy where Napoleon gets in a funny midget fist fight with Peter Dinklage*
>IS GOING TO BE..
>*Peter kicks Napoleon in the balls, Napoleon’s eyes roll back into his head as he gasps “Youch, right in my TUSCAN NOBILITY!!”
>cuts to his Rebel Wilson doing the white person face, "aaawkward..”
>…EPIC?
>*montage that's pretty much the inevitable dance party ending*
>War Elephant starts break dancing with Napoleon on top, Napoleon throws his hat on it, slides down its trunk, lands on his head and starts spinning like a top*
>NAPOLEON..
>only in theaters and on select streaming services.
I’m a historical wargamer and Napoleonics fans are known to be utterly hyper autistic when it comes to historical detail. Like, they’ll call each other out over what colour a unit’s epaulettes have been painted.
Anyone making a movie about Napoleon is dealing with people who have literally no life outside memorising reams of facts about Le Grande Armée so it’s unlikely that 100% historical accuracy was possible anyway. It’s like making a film that tries to cater to woketards, no matter how much you pander and grovel a bunch of them will find something to be offended by anyway.
That said Ridley Scott is a fricking hack with maybe three good movies so I say feed him to the wolves.
This but those guys are also incredibly based
It’s not for nothing that hardcore historical wargamers calls themselves ‘Grognards’ after the nickname for Napoleon’s units.
That said all the Napoleonics guys where I am are dying off and nobody’s replacing them because Historicals players here are all WW2 and ACW now, no more arguments over paint jobs.
Grognards were the old seasoned veterans from Napoleon's original imperial guard
I've seen a lot of younger people in footage of Napoleonic war reenactments
>they’ll call each other out over what colour a unit’s epaulettes have been painted.
Well he's spending a zillion dollars to make a movie. Would it be so hard to hire an expert and get the epaulettes right??
>And the Bonapartes? Where are they now?
>You're looking at them, butthole.
Run for pres
him and his sister have the exact same face thats goofy
Sister looks like she would give you strong, ambitious sons who prefer their women unbathed.
>Get a life
Says the director who's making unwanted Alien sequels after he's gone senile. Keep telling the public they're bad, that's sure to drive ticket sales.
What's the status on the unrealized Kubrick Napoleon film that Spielberg is gonna adapt into a miniseries? Is it still happening? I've already lost hope for this one but that might be the modern Napoleon kino I've been craving.
The scene where Napoleon drives a Citroën Ami seemed a tad inaccurate.
You know what the directors of films like Aguirre: Wrath of God, Alexander, Harikiri, The last Emporer, and Napoleon all have in common? If you asked them for recommendations to learn more about their prospective settings they'd all recommend you read a fricking book. I'm imagining Shakespeare getting a letter in 1599 to inform him that Marc Antony never actually said "friends, Romans, countryman, lend me your ears."
When Napoleon started watching Asterix at the Olympic Games with his soldiers, I almost turned off my screen.