Prominent Multiverses leaker reveals the first 4 DLC fighters for NASB 2.
https://x.com/AusilMV/status/1714699108043079994?s=20
The characters are:
Mr. Krabs
Zuko
Iroh
and Rocksteady
Thoughts?
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>rep from most popular nicktoon with most fighters
>two reps from the same show
>tmnt rep that isn't either of the missing turtles
Holy shit, this is awful.
These are the three most repped shows too. I at least thought they’d try to expand on one or two others.
>all the new avatar characters are firebenders
>Another SpongeBob rep and it’s an incredibly boring choice
>Rocksteady. Not the other turtles, splinter, Casey Jones, Kraang or Karai
>rocksteady
>a acharacter known for being a duo with another character
>in a series that can't even have the 4 main characters in the game
>someone how people say they are the best represented series in nasb
Nobody says that, people just say that more love, passion and care gets put into developing the characters more than any other character.
>worst animated characters in the first game
>no moves from their shows
>still watched the whole series
there still morons
The 80s show barely have any action for the characters to take from. They watched the series to get April's appearance in the game right.
They shouldn't have limited themselves to just the 80s.
They don't have a choice, you can only prominently use one era for TMNT.
GameMill is fricking horrible.
>We have a fire bender on the roster
>We need like... two more though
Reminder they've said the only way they're getting a second DLC batch is if this one sells well.
Why on earth would they think anyone would buy DLC with these characters? Let alone this game with nonsensical cuts.
>with these characters
Are you moronic? Just the other thread ago there was nonstop whining and clamoring for Zuko. Zuko has a massive fanbase that absolutely would get the DLC for him. Just a fraction of that fanbase would have the DLC sold hundreds of times.
Zuko is great and all, but this game is just bad.
Toph doesn't even have dirty feet.
Cool beans bro. But here's an idea. Instead of just ONE character that could sell the DLC... why not, FOUR characters that could sell the DLC?
Each of them have different appeal though, except like Rocksteady. 3/4 ain't bad.
The problem isn't the characters themselves in a vacuum. Zuko and Iroh are fan favorites. But the game already has one fire bender who's added in place of an earth bender, and a lot of Korra's moves are also fire bendy.
This tbh. They're fine on their own, but not when you look at the entire roster. There's also the fact that you're paying $25 for just the characters, so seeing these characters being chosen when there's shows with only one rep is pretty rough.
I can't see myself buying it unless it's dirt cheap during a Steam sale.
Only the hardcore autists are gonna get so mad over arbitrary rep that they won't buy motherfricking Zuko or motherfricking Iroh.
Zuko should have been in base game over Azula. Zuko has different fire bending techniques and a different fighting style than Azula.
This has been discussed in previous NASB threads detailing that Azula fights like a fighter jet while Zuko fights like a tank, with swords.
He won.
Sort of. You know we just needed the extra space for the firebenders...
the toph fan base is fricking horrible, why the frick are they so adamant that she should return?
Probably because as an Earth Bender, she stood out far more compared to Azula, Zuko, and Iroh, who are all Fire Benders, and Korra, whose moveset basically makes her an honorary Fire Bender.
That’s a terrible lineup for DLC. Mr Krabs is based but the rest are unnecessary
Does that go in your butt?
>Iroh and Zuko are two of my favorite Avatar characters
>People will resent them because they're braindead picks in a game that should have had a larger roster
Also Rocksteady? Are they trying to upset TMNT fans with these weird picks?
The fake leaks that were saying we'd be getting shit like Luan were better than this.
>"No one will predict our DLC picks!"
>everyone and their mother expected Rocksteady
>Mr. Krabs is the only major character from the most popular Nicktoon that previously wasn't represented
>Zuko was already considered at some point in the past, and is the most popular original series character
>the only one no one saw coming was possibly Iroh
Why do they lie so fricking much? God, these people are hacks.
I love Zuko and Iroh, but fricking both? Maybe if it was similar price to last game, but I’m not going to pay $20 for them and Krabs. Really feels like a slap in the face too having these characters clearly cut out to be charged more.
Not even touching Rocksteady. WTF?
>thaddeus making a quirky remark on how krabs likes money and it's paid dlc
>then proceeds to have another meltdown trying to defend their shitty decisions
I hope Rocksteady at least has Bebop incorporated into his moveset
Man the roster cap really fricked things, and they're likely gonna switch engines for NASB3 so they'll face the same constraints.
https://twitter.com/videogomez/status/1712961977234936132
this fricker straight up has a build of the game, anyone know where to get it?
>Ask around, one of the testers is gave it away
Thaddeus is not going to be happy.
I like that not only does he have a build of the game but he says it sucks.
Everyone in the comments are roasting him for that.
It's only a matter of time before someone posts it here, assuming it's true.
>enters training mode
>grabs twice
>decides the game sucks
based gomez
He's a Palestinecuck
You’re an Israeli shill
No, i support Lebanon
Absolutely terrible.
>Mr. Krabs
Oh yeah, selling playable npcs back to me really makes want to invest in DLC.
>Zuko
>Iroh
Yet, they couldn't leave Toph in?
>Rocksteady
Totally makes up for Mikey and Leon being excluded for no reason.
>Totally makes up for Mikey and Leon being excluded for no reason.
don't forget shredder
Why couldn't we get dib
Dib would have been a way better choice for DLC. IZ only has one rep in the form of Zim and Dib isn't even in the game as an NPC.
>Being a background character doesn't prevent you from being a rep
And yet, look who's still in the background hole
They never should have hyped the release of the game in this state. Trying to salvage your game by haphazardly removing characters is a disservice to everyone. Nobody liked it when SFIII did it, nobody liked it when Smash 4 did it, and nobody liked it when the cast of MK was constantly shuffled around before the reboot.
>"all star"
Wow, it’s fricking nothing!
To be fair, a literal Nick "All-Star" lineup wouldn't have anything but SpongeBob, FoP and Rugrats characters. The only comparable franchises are TMNT and Garfield, and they aren't Nick Originals
They limited themselves on purpose, I guess they were on a tight schedule so they couldn't put too many characters but I feel like they couldn't done atleast 30 in the base roster.
Part of the issue is that Nick views these games as small releases every couple of years, so even if they wanted to, the devs don't have the time needed to make a really big roster or the time needed to implement everyone.
If Nick All Stars Brawl 2 was what they started with, they'd be on far better ground but the first game really screwed things in terms of perception and good will.
There's also just downright luck. They switched over to the Unity engine between games which meant starting a lot of development from scratch. For the third game, they'll be inclined to switch engines again which would have a lot of issues and take up dev time that could be spent making the game bigger than the last.
the first game was in unity too though.
Oh. My mistake.
Yes, but the game's design was still busted. Two cars can have the same engine, but if one of them is designed like utter shit and uses cubes instead of wheels, it'll still be utter shit.
i wasn't even defending anything i was just correcting someone, stfu lmao
Every Smash game seems to have favorites
Come play Nick All Star Brawl 2! We have so many wonderful classic characters like
>Spengbop
>Parick
>Squinderd
>Plangtin
>Missturd Kraps
>Lusee
>Ang
>Corea
>Assula
>Zooco
>Eyerow
>Jimminy Newtron
>Garfielf
>Spingbib
>Ren n stimmy
>Jerald
>Gerdy
>Spgbob
And more! Come see all of your favorite characters come together in one big All Star Brawl!
Krabs model
>His moveset is a bunch of cobbled together out of place references
None of the characters in NASB 2 had this issue, why would he?
>None of the characters in NASB 2 had this issue
You're delusional if you believe that nonsense. References aren't bad, MVS is filled with them and no one cares. Same case for NASB 2, they fit the character and makes sense as an attack.
They're bad if they don't fit a moveset and turn the characters into parodies of themselves. You people have been saying this exact same bullshit for NASB1 and look how that turned out. And don't use Multiversus as a comparison when we all know that they're more sensible with their movesets. I have no doubt in my mind that the Multiversus team would create a better moveset for SpongeBob than the NASB team. Even Paramount wants SpongeBob in Multiversus so just you wait until that day comes and prepare to be BTFO'd by how much better they handle SpongeBob. At this point Nickelodeon and Paramount as a whole should just ditch NASB and give their IP to Multiversus.
>If they don't fit a moveset and turn the characters into parodies of themselves
Which isn't the case in NASB 2.
>Don't use MVS
MVS shoves a billion references with an attack where Batman randomly strikes a pose in a two parter aerial move. You'll only excuse it because you're biased to MVS, moron. I highly doubt Spongebob's moveset will be "better" it'll have its own problems of MVS' moba moveset design with a billion cooldowns.
>Just ditch NASB and give their IP to Multiversus
Piss off with that bullshit, not only will it take years to get Spongebob but they're not gonna add any characters I adore into that game.
NASB being ditched is fricking moronic, multiple games in a genre should exist especially when there's not a chance in hell will El Tigre get priority over hundreds of Warner/CN chars.
>Which isn't the case in NASB 2.
It is.
>MVS shoves a billion references with an attack where Batman randomly strikes a pose in a two parter aerial move.
Even if that's the case the majority of his moveset does not revolve around one time references and gags. Also you're really cherry picking here.
>You'll only excuse it because you're biased to MVS
No actually. I was one of the people who dropped the game during its second season and i had fun shitting on it along with the rest of Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile. I'm just able to acknowledge how better it is than NASB, a game you seem to be biased for yourself.
>I highly doubt Spongebob's moveset will be "better" it'll have its own problems of MVS' moba moveset design with a billion cooldowns.
If the only thing you have a problem with are "cooldowns" then you have nothing to complain about. Say what you what about that mechanic but the devs actually care about character accuracy and that alone would make SpongeBob's moveset in Multiversus better. Not everything is about competitive tournamentgay BS.
>not only will it take years to get Spongebob
So? You really so impatient that you'd settle on liquid shit as long as that comes out first?
>but they're not gonna add any characters I adore into that game.
This right here lets me know that you don't give a shit about these games. You only care about "OMG it's thing i recognize! Must consoom!"
This is seriously you.
You know it's sad i do feel bad for you that you're so desperate for anything El Tigre that you're willing to gobble down a bottle of shit as long as it has his face on it.
>It is
It literally isn't.
>The majority of his moveset does not revolve around gags
Same shit applies to the NASB roster too. You cherrypick references while ignore that the majority of moves are fairly simple and straightforward.
>That alone will make Spongebob's moveset in MVS better
No it won't. MVS movesets are gimmick trash, also, not a chance is Spongebob getting in. Cope all you want, PFG turned the offer down for a reason.
>You don't give a shit
Oh boo hoo, how dare I want fun characters and fun movesets. Go frick yourself, I don't have to share your whiny nitpicky garbage opinions.
>You're so desperate for anything El Tigre
Screw you. There's zero reason to ditch NASB when MVS has its own priorities and multiple things can exist, dumbass. He's not getting in MVS, there's no other alternative dipshit. There's zero reason for me not to enjoy El Tigre in NASB when he was done well. Just cuz you hate it for specific nitpick reasons doesn't mean I have to, moron.
Oh yeah, i know you. You're the schizo Discordgay who's obsessed with me and shits himself whenever someone dares to have negative views on your precious NASB.
>It literally isn't.
It is.
>Same shit applies to the NASB roster too. You cherrypick references while ignore that the majority of moves are fairly simple and straightforward.
No. A lot of SpongeBob's moves for example are references to one off gags. That's half of his moveset.
>No it won't. MVS movesets are gimmick trash
There's a reason why Multiversus' movesets got more attention praise than NASB's movesets. Because that "gimmick trash" is actually appealing and is character accurate.
>also, not a chance is Spongebob getting in. Cope all you want, PFG turned the offer down for a reason.
Things change all the time including people's minds. There's a lot of times when devs go back on things they rejected to include those things, especially if it gets enough fan demand.
>how dare I want fun characters and fun movesets.
You're a NASbgay. That alone makes what you just said a lie. And you're really in no position to say such a thing when you're shitting on Multiversus, calling the movesets "gimmick trash".
>I don't have to share your whiny nitpicky garbage opinions.
All i want is the bare minimum. You just need to stop having such low standards.
>There's zero reason to ditch NASB
It's soulless. It's a cheap cash grab. Its reputation is in the shitter. There, i just got three reasons as to why it should be ditched. At least let the series die and reboot the concept of a Nickelodeon fighter in the next decade.
>when MVS has its own priorities
Priorities can align and even change with time. It's mostly about patience.
>and multiple things can exist
It'd be better if one of those multiple things weren't a cheap rushed out cash grab. It'd be better to sacrifice bullshit to in favor of bikes. Don't get mad at me for wanting to play with a bike and not with bullshit.
>He's not getting in MVS
Never say never.
>there's no other alternative
Yes there is. You're just so desperately latching onto NASB because your mind can't comprehend anything that's not the status quo.
>There's zero reason for me not to enjoy El Tigre in NASB when he was done well.
They made him a Wolf ripoff and his stage is more competitive bullshit.
>Just cuz you hate it for specific nitpick reasons doesn't mean I have to
I'm not saying you have to hate it. You're the one who has been hating on me just for disagreeing with you. You're the obsessed schizo who can't handle it when others don't like the game as much as you do.
Seriously, i never expected such behavior on Cinemaphile. The way you're acting really makes it known just how much of a newbie you are and that you came to Cinemaphile not being able to handle it. I think it'd be better for you if you just stuck to Discord. It's not like you have been adding anything fun or positive to these threads anyway.
Also, that last part wasn't even direct to you, unless you're admitting that you're also a samegay.
>Spongebob isn't getting in MVS, your idea of "patience" is for nothing
Never say never.
>When MVS inevitably makes random one-off references you won't care because of your pathetic double standards.
I'll have you know that i am one of the people who also have complaints about Shaggy using a Dragon Ball meme.
>You're the saddest autist I've ever met.
You don't even have any counter points. All you have are petty insults.
>Thank god not a single other person shares your dogshit opinions.
Have you not been reading these threads? You really think these threads have been nothing but praise for the game? Frick no. Dozens of people in these threads have been shitting on the game much worse than i have yet for some reason you ignore them and only obsess over me.
>The same info we got where Spongebob was offered, that same person said PFG turned it and Spiderman down in favor of focusing on Warner.
Honestly doesn't make that much sense considering the devs have said that they wanted to work with characters and franchises outside of WB, that's why they named it Multiversus and not something more WB related. Honestly if this is true then it'd be WB forcing the devs to make the game WB focused.
>It just shows the preferences of the community. Everyone wants anything but Nick in the community.
This is pretty ignorant given the amount of people who'd be fine and even want the likes of SpongeBob and TMNT in the game. There's even a dedicated Twitter account all about getting SpongeBob into Multiversus.
>Yes, I did, since you're being a dickhead over a hypothetical thing that won't ever happen.
I know for a fact that if i was a dickhead here then i was not the aggressor and not the one who was a dickhead first.
>WB and Paramount working together means frick all if PFG isn't interested in Spongebob. Which they aren't,
You do know that WB has more say as to who gets into the roster than Player First Games right? You do know that WB can force the devs to add whatever character they want, right? How do you think Black Adam got in?
>the community's been asking for tons upon tons of Warner and CN chars.
And people have also been requesting characters outside of WB and even make third party wishlists. The most popular requested character is Walter White, who's not WB.
>It's been 1-2 years into MVS' announcement and we still don't even have Regular Show or any classic CN rep like Samurai Jack.
Like i said, patience. You really think everybody wants things as soon as possible? No. Honestly you yourself should have more patience or else you'll forever be rushing to get hyped for rushed out products as long as they have faces you recognize.
Also Jack has been leaked to be coming sooner than you might think.
>Spongebob is a pipedream that only you want
Again this is ignorant.
>any other Nickelodeon character is off the board completely.
Well there's TMNT and Avatar. Especially now that the Avatar franchise is starting to grow more. And there's also a lot of Paramount franchises outside of Nick such as Star Trek and South Park.
Yet you'll excuse all sorts of reference heavy movesets like Iron Giant just because you like MVS. You even made up excuses for Batman using literal stock poses for moves.
>Dozens of people have been shitting on the game.
And you're the only one actively crafting dumbass narratives about the game as if it personally hurt you. No one is doing that, only you the pathetic autist hating the game for very nitpicky reasons.
Warner Bros isn't going to force them to put in Spongebob. If they were, they wouldn't have let PFG turn down these money making offers to begin with. Those 3rd party wishes primarily consist of things that aren't Nick. There is little to no demand for Nick. You're the one being ignorant to push this moronic narrative, Nickelodeon isn't getting prioritized over the hundreds of characters them and the community wants. Get over it.
>I-I didn't start it!
Doesn't change that you're being a dickhead, dickhead.
Project harder, dumbass. It's not the same case.
>Spongebob's moves
Wrong. The majority of his moves are basic kicks or his main hobbies.
>MVS' movesets got more praise
People didn't praise NASB's kits because everyone played the same. The sequel kits literally have gotten all sorts of praise.
>Things change all the time!!!
Cope harder. He's not getting in.
>Bare minimum
No you don't. As NASB 2 got the bare minimum and you're still finding reasons to complain, gaylord.
Your reasons are dogshit. It's not being ditched no matter how hard you whine and seethe about it.
>It's mostly about patience
You're coping.
>It'd be better to sacrifice bullshit
Not when you're getting nothing in return, moron.
>Because your mind can't comprehend anything that's not the status quo
Or I happen to like the game? Get over yourself you piece of shit. There are no alternatives no matter how hard you lie to yourself
>Wolf ripoff
Disingenious
>You're the one who has been hating me for disagreeing you
Says the disingenuous moron that'll dismiss entire groups of people who don't think the way you do. "Stick to Discord" piss off, I do whatever the hell I want you moron and you can't stop me.
Spongebob isn't getting in MVS, your idea of "patience" is for nothing and practically moronic to boot. When MVS inevitably makes random one-off references you won't care because of your pathetic double standards. You're the saddest autist I've ever met. Thank god not a single other person shares your dogshit opinions.
>Even Paramount wants Spongebob in MVS
anon you're conventionally forgetting the part where PFG turned down that offer. Those devs show more interest in random shit like Water White, you're delusional if you think MVS is getting Spongebob.
>anon you're conventionally forgetting the part where PFG turned down that offer.
I have never heard of this info. You're gonna have to give a source on this one.
>Those devs show more interest in random shit like Water White
That's not really random when there's a fan campaign for him. It's a forced one but it still exists and has inspired other to do the same with other characters. The Walter White guy helped build the community.
>you're delusional if you think MVS is getting Spongebob.
And now you just had to be a douchebag about it, didn't you?
You know, it's more possible than you'd think with the devs wanting to go further than just WB and WB and Paramount working together on multiple occasions and with enough fan demand anything is possible in Multiversus.
The same info we got where Spongebob was offered, that same person said PFG turned it and Spiderman down in favor of focusing on Warner.
>Walter White guy helped build the community
It just shows the preferences of the community. Everyone wants anything but Nick in the community.
>And now you just had to be a douchebag about it
Yes, I did, since you're being a dickhead over a hypothetical thing that won't ever happen. WB and Paramount working together means frick all if PFG isn't interested in Spongebob. Which they aren't, the community's been asking for tons upon tons of Warner and CN chars. It's been 1-2 years into MVS' announcement and we still don't even have Regular Show or any classic CN rep like Samurai Jack. Spongebob is a pipedream that only you want, any other Nickelodeon character is off the board completely.
With the cartoony characters it make sense for them to do that. SpongeBob uses his bubble blowing and fry cooking, Squidward uses his art, music and aerials based off his dance moves. Those are incredibly fitting for their characters.
Meanwhile, look at the Avatar reps and they actually kick, punch and shoot shit with their references being limited to taunts. Even the giant turtles do actual fighting despite being cartoony in nature.
They are if they're for the sake of being references and not for the sake of fitting the move slot. I could be remembering wrong, but I think people complained about that when NASB1 released (correct me if I'm wrong though).
That was only an issue with NASB 1.
>References aren't bad, MVS is filled with them and no one cares
Yeah, because they're legitimate elements from the franchises they're meant to represent. You can tell the people adding references to multiversus genuinely care because they mostly add either stuff that feels natural to the characters or is something at least maginally deeper than the surface level. They end up feeling both unique to platform fighters and as proper characters.
Meanwhile NASB either just shoehorns in whatever internet references the team could find and they called it a day, or shamelessly steals entire movesets from Smash wholesale.
Ah yes because a stock pose is very "legitimate", I can't take what you're saying seriously at all. Not only that, but "shamelessly stealing entire movesets" is just disingenuous.
Thats it, im pirating it
If you pirate the game, Thaddeus will kidnap you at night and make you one of his Discord kittens.
Me too, honestly. I'm only interested in the game for the single player, though I wonder how that'll be handled if the DLC's anything to go by.
Based pick.
I'm also only interested for the singleplayer. Smash Ultimat let me down in that regard but I'm hoping this game has some fun shit to do.
I like Rocksteady but oh my god that's moronic. He's a wasted slot! We don't need Zuko and Iroh! And we have enough Spongebob characters!
So is it safe to say that Avatar is becoming the Fire Emblem of this game's roster?
>Animepoops instead of scrimblos
Checks out.
>Anime look
>Lots of similar looking styles(at least on the surface)
Yep.
Also, reminder that Korra used more Firebending than Waterbending in her own show.
Dropping Toph to add two firebenders when you already had one is so dumb.
Avatars should have lots of reps. It’s on one of only for franchises casuals care about.
Only because more than half the characters are fire benders.
At least Avatar is popular and talked about beyond shipBlack person shit or who you jerk off to.
Fire Emblem is the most forced franchise Nintendo puts out. They've neglected series that have sold more than it on average.
Can't wait for NASB3 to introduce Ozai, Mako, and Combustion Man.
From the account that posted the Mr Krabs pics
>Rocksteady pulls out two propulsion devices that help him fly upwards.
>Rocksteady throws out multiple small bombs onto the battlefield.
>Rocksteady charges forward, tackling any opponent along the way.
>Rocksteady pulls out his laser gun and fires it.
>Press the Special button again while in level 3 to perform a powerful spinning finisher.
>While on the ground, Mr. Krabs digs out a gold bar with his shovel.
>While in the air, Mr. Krabs slams his shovel downwards, spiking opponents.
>While in level 3,
>Mr. Krabs strongly slams his first dime downwards.
>While on the ground, Mr. Krabs uses his fishing rod to grab and toss his opponents away. While in the air, Mr. Krabs uses his fishing rod to reel himself back to the ledge.
Expect Multiverses to be an absolute shit show when it comes back next year. More than likely the devs from that game aren’t gonna learn on their mistakes and double down on shit gameplay decisions and poor roster choices.
Anon, they're a Game Awards™ winner. Surely, you're not suggesting anything is wrong with an award winning game?
All the characters are going to still be there which gives that game the saddest leg up against NASB.
It's cute that you think that.
Why would they remove a character?
I think anon thought you were talking about NASB. Multiversus will literally be dead the instant they remove a character
I can see them removing LeBron over some dumb contract issue, given it's based on an actual person.
>poor roster choices.
Powerpuff girls, Mordecai, Hermoine, Marceline, Samurai Jack, Joker, Raven and Beetlejuice are better choices than anything the nasb devs have decided. Hell, I would take Black Adam and Lebron anyday over Arnold’s Grandma and Rocksteady.
The Multiversus team I believe increased their team size by 5x or 6x and have had several months to fix the game. When the game rereleases, there will be a large surge of players once more to try the game out. The team has this one chance to keep the number high if they added a significant amount of content, more likable characters day 1, and fix some of the game issues. So long as the dev team isn't as moronic as the NASB devs, Multiversus might be able to succeed.
The NASB devs have more room to be "moronic", Nickelodeon as a brand and especially NASB already warned its audience that its not as serious. MVS is live service with self respecting IP holders in the mix.
Not after the first game they don't
I tapped out when they said yesterday that the "physical" retail version will just be a code in a box. Sick of that shit.
Man this game is having a rough launch.
>Roster leak revealed a bunch of character cuts
>The GameXplain video making it worse
>Some black guy somehow accidentally streams himself playing a test build and confirms the roster leaks and leaks the stages
>DLC gets leaked and Fire Emblems the Avatar franchise
And I was sure that TMNT would be the Fire Emblem of this franchise given how biased the devs are for it.
Honestly, are the devs biased towards it? They seem to go out of their way to make every decision be the worst possible when it comes to the turts.
we all know what happens here is way worse than Fire Emblem'd
Can they just introduce maddie already?
I guess we now know why that area Zuko went to with the dragons was added as a stage.
>The new Avatar stage was supposed to be Zuko's stage
>They cut him out as base game while keeping Azula because they know the more popular fire benders will sell more DLC
I like how this basically confirms that Zuko and Iroh are more popular then Azula but holy shit.
aww i wanted leni but mr krabs is a good choice too!!
put him in you cowards
Watch him be the Waluigi of nasb, except Tak actually deserves to get in.
I wonder which nicktoons from 2000s and 2010s could be reoresented in future nasb and nkr sequels
Every single cartoon but The Fairly Oddparents
Despite the dumb choices that were made i still want to play this game because im tired of smash and i like nicktoons. Am i moronic?
No just stupid [/spoiler] like me for thinking of buying it solely for Rocko and the Pointy Weasel Thingies
waiting for it
What an absolute joke roster.
I'm fine with Krabs, zuko and iroh but
>Rocksteady without Bebop
Are the devs fricking insane?
could've been casey jones if you wanted a tmnt rep that isn't the turtles.
>/trash/ house doesn't get any representation not even in dlc
KEK
>Rocksteady without Bebop
Maybe he could be summoned for certain attacks
Neither do you, zim.
If they were going for another Avatar rep it should've been Sokka. His moveset would be unique and I'm sure they could be creative with him.
They'd just give him Link functions.
Odie would've been a better pick
Unironically yes. It's at least a character from a series with only one rep, which I think the DLC should've focused on.
>Another TMNT rep no one asked for
>TWO Avatar reps that already covered a previous character's niche
>Adding Krabs as DLC despite making an entire model for him as a cameo
And I thought Sakurai made stupid choices with his roster, god damn.
>And I thought Sakurai made stupid choices with his roster, god damn.
>Pibby avatar
No accounting for taste.
What stupid choice are you talking about? Ultimate literaly have every noteworthy character.
Yeah sure, like Piranha Plant and the billionth Fire Emblem character
>Piranha Plant
To spite waluigi fans
>Fire emblem
Most of them are returning tho and nintendo forced byleth
I'll give plant this, it was at least funny and creative. Added tiers from Geno and Waluigi fans didn't hurt either.
Fire Emblem? I have no damn clue. It took the series 22 years to release a game that sold 1 million units. Even after that, the highest they've ever gotten was 4 million. Why in the ever loving FRICK is it the 3rd most represented series in Smash while Zelda consists of 3 of the same character, 1 that never even fought in her home series, and a Captain Falcon clone?
Most of them are returning characters, so it's mostly a consequence of the whole "Everyone is here" campaign. The only new characters are Chrom (alleged fan favourite who's an Ike clone) and Byleth (probably forced by Nintendo). If this was any other Smash game, you can bet your ass that Ike, Lucina, Roy and Corrin won't be in
Chrom is a Roy clone anon
Ike and Roy already came back once in Smash 4, they're mainstays at this point, and Lucina will stay as long as Marth stays (and she's too popular to cut).
The only one at risk of leaving is Corrin.
>Mr. Krabs
Fire Emblem has a revolving cast that changes completely in almost every game.
Zelda always has Link, usually has Zelda and has Ganondorf as a recurring villain.
But between Ganondorf still being a Falcon clone and every lord being primarily a sword user, it's not a good look.
>Ganondorf still being a Falcon clone
He won't be seeing big changes because Falcondorf is one of the most popular characters to play
>https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/research/articles/172655/
Not that Anon but frick that. There's more countries outside of Japan with different views.
Piranha Plant was more creative and interesting than a solid third of the entire roster. Non-humanoid characters in fighter games are always fun to play. The butthurt is entirely over the idea that they could have added X instead.
As creative as Piranha Plant is, I've never really been a fan of the idea of having regular enemies as fighters. It just feels lame imo
It takes inspiration from multiple different kinds of Piranha Plant enemies, so it's at least a fair composite.
I honestly feel bad for Zuko. He's the most popular character in the franchise and much more wanted than Azula but now he's getting dragged through the mud because of the dev's dumbass decisions.
What a shit roster. Appropriate for a shit game I suppose.
>NPCs are deconfirmed.
>Mr. Krabs is a NPC.
>Everyone ITT seems to be being bamboozled.
Bobby when BTW?
I don't think we'll get the cut characters back through DLC though. As much as I'd have liked if Lincoln didn't get cut, I'd rather get a new character, if there's any possibility that can happen.
Pictured: A future Krabs main looking at a former Lincoln main.
I genuinely can't tell if these were the only ones Nickelodeon allowed or if these are the ones the devs went with on their own, it's so baffling.
my only issue with the dlc is the double avatar characters, rocksteady is a really cool pick from TMNT, it's cool to see something other than the turtles/shredder/girl get repped in crossovers
>rocksteady is a really cool pick from TMNT
Tell me you don't give a shit about TMNT without saying it.
>Smash Bros has too much Fire Emblem reps
>Nick Star Brawl has too much Fire Bender reps
How can the Multiversus devs ruin their roster with something fire related?
we need gumball and morde/rigby and we have the CN 4 pillars
>How can the Multiversus devs ruin their roster with something fire related?
ENTER
actually if they added firebreather with a solid moveset i would be happy about it
its not like they made shitty roster decisions elsewhere
nasb on the other hand has done nothing but frick up
>Shitty roster decisions
>Garnet
>Gizmo
>Stripe
>Black Adam
>Lebron
The frick are you on about?
Garnet is actually a nice decision.
>garnet
you clearly didnt play her if you think she was a bad addition
>gizmo
annoying but the boomers loved him
>stripe
see above
>black adam
worst addition and still nowhere near as bad as half the shit nasb is doing
>lebron
literally one of the best movesets ever put into a game like this
Not that Anon but having two gremlins really did not help generate hype for the game.
And for LeBron, you can say what you want about the moveset but he's still an ad for Space Jam 2.
Although still not as bad as NASB.
A big problem was they wanted Gizmo and Stripe to be one character like Zelda and Shiek but for whatever reason couldn't manage it and they were released separately. I don't know all of the bullshit that went on behind the scenes between the devs and WB, but with an Epimetheus perspective they should have released Marvin over Stripe.
i personally would have prefered not to have the gremlins but theres no denying all the 30 year old smash boomers were smiling when they showed up
lebron was definitely a shill pick but i do think the gameplay makes up for it for the most part, that character legitimately made you feel like a god with the ball snipes and hail mary dunks
im not gonna sit here and suck multiversus metaphorical wiener but i think its safe to say that one of the few things they didnt frick up was the roster
>i personally would have prefered not to have the gremlins
...Why? Have you not seen the movies, especially the second one?
ive just always found them annoying, same with angry beavers.
im not mad and i dont want them cut, i just would have preferred that effort to have gone somewhere else, like dexter or johnny bravo
>theres no denying all the 30 year old smash boomers were smiling when they showed up
Frick them. Frick those asshats. Appealing to them is the reason why NASB is such a crappy series.
cry more zoomie lol
So how's the reputation of your slop 90stard?
Yeah, you're right, kek.
I have no idea what you just said. Go outside for a change and take the "slop" out of your rotted brain
You really are a tard if you don't know what i'm telling you.
Anon, the only group these NASB games are trying to appeal to is Thaddeus and his team.
I thought we where judging characters solely by rosterhomosexualry, and not how they function. If we are talking about functionality, I don't see how you can complain about NASBs kits unless you have actually played the game.
well based on rosterhomosexualry garnet is often one of the few things people like about steven universe, in fact shes probably the biggest reason it lasted past season 2, so i wouldnt be surprised if she got in and steven didnt
as for lebron, hes a shill pick for the black audience
only character i cant really justify is black adam and even then the roster needed a dc villain because harley doesnt count as a villain at this point
i did play nasb, movesets sucked for the most part especially the avatar characters, absolutely soulless
nasb2 seems to be doing better in that department but ill have to get my hands on it first before i speak further
The Multiversus devs are really good at handling the bullshit that comes their way. The Gremlins reps and Lebron are fun characters to play as and play against, but there's no salvaging Black Adam. Him coming to the game did as much damage as no new characters after Marvin.
Garnet is popular and mandatory for a SU rep
Gizmo and Stripe are good to have but should've been saved for later (they didn't exactly generate hype when the game really needed it)
Black Adam was only chosen to generate hype for the movie. He's fine for a fighter but I'll be livid if he's in and Lex Luthor isn't
Similar case with Lebron. Michael Jordan should've been chosen, but I don't think ha likes to have his image used in video games so it's understandable
Garnet is the best pick they could have done after Steven. She's coomer bait.
No it's because she's the leader of the Crystal Gems. Don't write off females as just being there for coomers. Respect females.
>that influx of finn x garnet r34 right after multiversus launched
i came buckets, literal buckets
Mr. Krabs is the only good one because it makes sense, pun intended
Any day now.
Wow this is fricking awful, so it must be true.
>two avatar characters
>two reps of the same fricking series
Actual fricking garbage.
This better not be the only DLC they do, I'm not buying with this dogshit roster. One or two good newcomers isn't enough to carry shit.
A dev said that they want a wave two, but it'll only happen if the game sells enough.
Also consider the fact that this statement was made before the Unity debacle so most likely the devs will just switch engines ASAP to make NASB3 instead.
>Fire Bendblem
Can you think of a spongebob character you'd actually be annoyed by getting in the game?
Fred.
A moronic meme pick.
>never ever
Why bother?
Most waifugays lost hard.
Me included. (Not for Assian gamer over there though)
They already gave Ren and Stimpy the fart attack
I don't understand the astroturfed "culture" around this game. You're just using NASB (and Multiversus) as an excuse to vicariously relive the worst aspects of Smash hype culture when you in no way have to. You don't actually want to, either. It's not actually fun, and you don't even get the euphoria of your character getting in if it happens because it's just a no-budget licensed shovelware facsimile of Smash with a comparatively small pool of potential characters. It's essentially a cargo cult.
I'm just interested in the single-player campaign since WoL got boring. I mean, this might get boring too, but I'm only gonna buy it on sale so I can save my money.
I liked WoL, but I know I'm in a minority that I've never actually seen another human being online affirm themselves as a part of. Single player is definitely undervalued and underutilized in games like this and I hope it's something good here. I'm probably never buying this one because I bought the beta test last year and that would just be digging myself deeper into the hole.
>I bought the beta test last year
That's why I wanna wait for a sale, though the Switch port will probably be dumped day 1 so maybe it's best to try that out first.
As a singleplayer gay, WoL and Spirits are pretty cool, minus the fact that Spirits sadly have no descriptions like Trophies had.
I just hate that so many other single player modes are just gone from Ultimate. All-star mode was my favorite
I do agree with you on all counts. I can sort of see why they ditched Trophies, because online wikis largely render them irrelevant, they stopped making unique models for them after Melee, and they can use the dev time on other things, but it honestly just isn't the same without them, and pngs literally ripped from Google Images are frankly insulting as a feature. All-Star being gone is unthinkable. Smash Run not being ported over is indefensible. They didn't even need an Adventure Mode more complex than Melee's, but we can't even have that. It's a good thing I really enjoyed the "playing with action figures and using characters from one franchise to represent a different character" aspect of WoL, and Event Matches in general, but even then, I did miss Event Matches where the fighters are simply themselves (no Trouble Kings 3 with Bowser, Dedede, and K. Rool really let down my past self).
This is why I'm hopeful for the next game. Whether it be a port of Ultimate or a new game with a smaller roster, I'll be content as long as they put more priority on singleplayer rather than just the roster
>I just hate that so many other single player modes are just gone from Ultimate. All-star mode was my favorite
Legitimately the only reason I'm curious about All-Star Brawl 2. As much as I enjoyed Ultimate's roster of characters and stages (and I guess the modability nowadays), the single player ain't that great.
We're shitting on this game because as true Nickelodeon fans we hate seeing our favorite franchises and characters be treated so poorly.
This was always just one of those bargain bin Nickelodeon shovelware party games. They release drek like this all the time, there's even a Mario Kart knockoff. I guess that arrogant douchebag in charge of it is the one who fooled everyone into caring about it by making them think it was a legit game. How he kept that up after the original released with NO VOICE ACTING is beyond me.
The first game definitely felt like a scam, but this sequel seems like it'll be at least worth buying on sale (maybe at $30? Dunno yet). I sure as hell don't want the DLC though if the leaks turn out to be true.
I mean, the first game sold well enough to get two re-releases. It seems like you are just coping at this point.
Not that Anon but that means nothing when it comes to Nickelodeon and GameMill.
Not that anon but given that there's three Nickelodeon kart racers when that series probably went under the radar, it honestly feels like sales don't matter. I know comparing a racer to a fighting game is stupid, but still.
Exactly. These are all just cheap converter belt cash grabs.
They really are, and I'm someone who's legitimately interested in NASB2, though that's only because it has a single player campaign. Maybe it'll be on-par with the Nicktoons Unite games I grew up with (even though those games are pretty mediocre, but they felt like so much more back then).
According to leaks the single player is barebones, there's no crossover interaction, NPC are just merchants, the campaign is diet World of Light and apparently it's a prequel to NASB1.
>a prequel
Why? That's really damn stupid when it'd just be better to make it standalone.
They're apart of the same franchise, you can't make it standalone by default and the fact that NASB 2 is constantly compared to NASB 1 proves that.
Not the game itself, just the Story Mode if I'm reading the leak correctly.
Actually, the second kart racers game sold pretty well. The third game was a disaster and was a complete downgrade though.
Expect the same to happen to NASB3, if there will actually be a NASB3.
I bet Nick made them put in two avatar characters to shill for their upcoming live-action avatar show. Same shit happened with Byleth, Pythra, Gizmo, Stripe, Black Adam and literally every single PlayStation All-Star DLC choice.
What were Gizmo and Stripe shilling?
Gremlins 3
The Gremlins TV series in production at the time.
>absolutely hideous CGI cartoon based on an IP where the entire point is puppetry and practical effects
You know what, I'm so angry that I'm just going to go to bed.
Good night, sweet prince
Well, Zuko does have his own spin off movie coming soon.
>Mr. Krabs
Based
>Zuko
Apparently, he is going to be a stance character swapping between firebending and his blades. Super based.
>Iroh
A really good addition, but probably should have been saved for a different pass/game. Should have been a loud sister tbh.
>Rocksteady
He will probably be fun and rhinos are cool. It's weird that we are getting him without Bebop though.
>Apparently, he is going to be a stance character swapping between firebending and his blades.
If this is true then the devs are doing him poorly if they can't let him use both at once.
This is so stupid.
Zuko should have been base game.
How is the Discord coping?
They probably knew who the DLC was a long time ago. Trust me, if Papagenos knew who the DLC character was, then most of the Nick discord probably knew as well.
They didn't. Trust me, when i was still on the Discord (I got banned) people had no idea and the two people who knew (PapaGenos and some other guy) didn't say anything about them (Aside from that other guy responding to a few guesses that gave some clues). The Discord was in the dark as well and they for sure found out the same time we did. If they had known for a long time then so would the rest of the internet because with that big of a group there's always going to be at least one dumbass who can't keep their mouth shut.
>More turtles shit
The fire emblem of NASB
Zimgay, if you're still here I have a question.
You can get any character you want, but you're forced to choose a Loud House character to go along with them, what do you pick for each?
Not the Zimgay but I'd take that deal in a heartbeat.
SpongeBob is already in.
I didn't know Spongebob worked in Glitch Techs all this time!
Luan really isn't that similar to Spngebob, anon.
Meh, Zim is already here.
could go with
if it was obligatory i guess
>Haggis McHaggis
>Either Leni or Carlota (with Sergio and Lalo) if she counts
>The turtles will never be on the roster together
Why even bother putting them in the game
Wow. Two characters who should have been base game (Mr. Krabs and Zuko) a pretty meh character that'd be better as an assist if the game had any (Iroh) and fricking dogshit that no one asked for, no one wanted and no one would be willing to pay for (Rocksteady).
We now know what a full match looks like, but they only released the footage on Twitter, and the footage is very competitive. Also i'm not so sure about the slime meter as it's looking like a way for players to ignore super moves.
https://twitter.com/NickBrawlGame/status/1715027193447772274
Thaddeus responds to people claiming the series is competitive focused. Honestly i don't believe him.
I'd post this on the Cinemaphile thread but i am currently banned from the board for being "off topic".
I was recently unbanned so I'll help you out.
Thank you.
There are ways of making these games come off as more casual friendly. Having asymmetrical stages or stages with hazards and items makes the game come off as way less comp focused because those are the kind of things compgays run screaming from.
I agree with TierZoo tbh. I only bought Rivals of Aether because of its Workshop support, not the competitive gameplay. Just like how NASB2's single player is the only thing making me wanna try it.
NASB2 must be the game with more moronic takes so far
>Rocksteady
I will buy if true.
...And if the game doesnt die.
If the game maintains a healthy playerbase by the time Rocksteady releases only then will I purchase this game.
they should give azula brap attacks to make her different from zuko and iroh i think that would solve the fire bender issue a lot because now she will have moves that truly stand out
If you side special facing forward she queefs, if you side special in the opposite direction she braps
Hold the move for a flamethrower
>As she plays she builds up a fart
>Down neutral releases it, skyrocketing her up and knocking opponents away
This honestly isn't as bad as papagenos and the DLC leaker made it out to be. Zuko, Iroh, and Mr. Krabs are excellent picks for this game. I'd rather much have DLC from new franchises instead of old ones.
These picks are incredibly safe. I don't blame the devs for this. If we want to see a season 2 DLC pass, then the first has to succeed.
As much as you guys complain about these picks, characters like vexus, and miko aren't exactly going to push DLC sales
Dib at most should have been included
>nobody else wants Rocksteady
No Bebop, no care
You'll get Bebop in 3 but Rocksteady gets cut.
If they handled the TMNT roster better, people would be more excited. I don't even like TMNT and I can see how bad they blew it with the turts.
That's the biggest reason I dislike that pick despite not liking TMNT either. If all four Turtles were in the base game, it'd probably be fine.
>all TMNT representation is from '87 and nothing else, despite '87 being the only one Viacom doesn't have the television/streaming rights to (yet).
>Both games don't have a full Turtle roster
>Rocksteady without Bebop
>Shredder got demoted to a boss
Some very strange choices all around for the IP.
80s is the most iconic, insiders even said Nickelodeon agreed. It's why our newest beat em up was 80s centric.
I get it, but it would be like if Smash Bros only had Pikachu, Mewtwo, and Pokemon Trainer as their roster, and the only Pokemon that came out of the PokeBalls were Kantomons and the only stages were Saffron City and other stuff from Gen 1. TMNT is a 40 year old franchise starting next year. I completely understand why '87 is represented, but it being the ONLY representation for the Turtles is weird
Don't mind me. I'm just butthurt that no one cares about '03 TMNT despite it being the 20th anniversary this year.
That's not the same at all. Unlike Pokemon TMNT eras have the same chars more or less, they just chose the most iconic look for em.
Alright then. Then it'd be like if all of Mario was only represented by the NES games.
Again, not the same case as Mario looks the same throughout all eras. TMNT's looks differ wildly.
Then it'd be like if a Sega crossover only had Classic Sonic as representation.
That comparison still doesn't work anon, let it go.
comparing this to that is dogshit, but i do think limiting themselves to 80s tmnt sucks because nick didn't even air 80s tmnt (not that anon if that wasn't clear)
They own the 80s series, who cares? If its the most marketable and appealing look for them then it really shouldn't matter.
>who cares?
You know, the people who care about the IP as a whole instead of jaded Xers/Millennials who want to retreat back to "the good ol' days"?
Lots of people enjoy the 80s stuff just fine and they're zoomers nor are they "jaded". TMNT's usage makes sense and it's pretty fair.
Not that Anon but the 80s version isn't a Nickelodeon original and was made before the Nicktoons were even a thing.
Also the "marketable and appealing" thing applies to all versions of the TMNT, not just 80s.
Nickelodeon didn't even want the 80s TMNT, they wanted 2012. Ludosity are just 90s kids making the game for themselves.
I don't give a shit if they're not a Nickelodeon original, that's a dumb thing to focus on. It doesn't apply either because I specifically said the "most marketable and appealing" which is objectively proven. At first they didn't but agreed that they're the most iconic, an insider said this. If they didn't want 80s TMNT ever they wouldn't have put them in their tennis game and would've mandated another era just like how they mandated other things.
>that's a dumb thing to focus on
No it isn't. The game is called NICK ALL-STAR BRAWL after all.
And the 80s TMNT are owned and even got aired by Nick alongside the rest of the IP. It's a moronic nitpick to insist they can't be here just because they didn't strictly originate from Nickelodeon.
I never once said that '87 shouldn't be represented, as said
My issue is that '87 is the only representation of the IP. But I also think they way the Turtles were handled in general is weird, because as I also said
There are two entries into this game and neither one have all four Turtles playable.
>And the 80s TMNT are owned and even got aired by Nick alongside the rest of the IP.
Yeah, only a few months ago because Nick didn't even own the rights to the 80s cartoon until a few months ago.
>It's a moronic nitpick to insist they can't be here just because they didn't strictly originate from Nickelodeon.
No one is saying this. We're just saying that having a TMNT show actually made by Nick would actually be better for a Nickelodeon game, especially one with the title of Nickelodeon All Stars. And we're also saying that it'd be best to have content from more than one of the cartoons.
And yet, Nick made the conscious effort to obtain the airing rights fully. Something they did not do with 2003. The fact that they branched out at all when they're known to not bother with anything that isn't Spongebob speaks to the 80s appeal.
>We're just saying having a TMNT show actually made by Nick
aka, yiou're saying they shouldn't be here because they didn't strictly originate from Nickelodeon. Piss off you autistic freak, your babyraging won't change the fact that 80s TMNT has loads of appeal and continues to be exposed to new generations and gain new fans. I'm one of them.
>Something they did not do with 2003.
???
BTW '03 was available on ParamountPlus before '87 was.
It didn't say Nick owned it when I searched it up. Don't care that it was available before either, 87 got very specific attention by Nick in a way I don't see 2003 get. 2003 wasn't even featured in the 2012 show while the 80s TMNT was crammed in.
im that one anon who mentioned that 80s didn't originate on nick, i just find 80s to be the most corporate and stale iteration of the characters, its cool that you like them to this extent though and i respect your opinion.
You can feel that way, ultimately though they have success to their name and to this day Nick still thinks of them as the most marketable versions of their characters.
I am none of you Anons but how about if Smash only used Zelda content from Ocarina of Time?
BOTW is massive and outsold the other Zeldas. This comparison just falls flat, TMNT is a very specific thing.
Two things wrong with this.
1. I didn't mention Breath of the Wild, i used Ocarina of Time as the example.
2. Zelda and TMNT are quite comparable given how both franchises involve different versions and incarnation of the characters and stories that get changed up every so often.
But if that's not good enough for you then i'll say it'd be like if Multiversus only used Batman content from the Dark Knight trilogy. Both Batman and TMNT are comic characters with multiple adaptations and incarnations with specific version being claimed by fans to be the one true best versions of their respective franchises no matter what.
TMNT isn't as specific as you say it is.
That's exactly why I brought up BOTW. Ocarina doesn't work because BOTW outdid it. They aren't comparable as TMNT's chars are the same while in Zelda, the chars have shown to change drastically. Ganondorf isn't present in over half of Zelda's games. TMNT is very specific, 80s is the most iconic and marketable so it makes sense for it to be used.
That doesn't mean it needs to be the only iteration that gets representation when it gets more than enough as it from the constant crossovers is received and the fact that other Nick crossover games used other Turtles like the '12 versions.. This is the entire point of the debate.
This argument falls flat when other Nick crossovers didn't mix the TMNT, they used one specific era like NASB is doing. Also... really? That's objectively wrong, other TMNT crossovers and media used the 80s too. Viacom's Nick Tennis game used them and Shredder's Revenge used them.
Shredder's Revenge used the '87 Turtles because it was a homage to the Konami beat 'em ups, specifically Turtles in Time.
>That's objectively wrong, other TMNT crossovers and media used the 80s too.
I already said that. as seen
>when it gets more than enough as it from the constant crossovers is received
That's not the only reason they were used and you know it.
>TMNT crossovers and media used the 80s too.
Yeah, a mobile game, two shovelware fighting games due to dev bias and a shovelware kart racer trying to synergize with the shovelware fighting games.
>Shredder's Revenge
Not a crossover game and the recent DLC adds Karai a character who was never in the 80s cartoon.
>Not a crossover game
Usagi's in it
>This argument falls flat when other Nick crossovers didn't mix the TMNT
Well then don't you think it's about time for that to change? Don't you think it'd be better if that were to change?
>That's exactly why I brought up BOTW. Ocarina doesn't work because BOTW outdid it.
And yet it's Ocarina of Time that the 90s kids still obsess over and treat as the peak.
>They aren't comparable as TMNT's chars are the same while in Zelda, the chars have shown to change drastically.
Link, Zelda, Ganondorf and every other recuring character sticvk to the designs they have had for decades now. Not to mention how drastically the TMNT have been changing between incarnations, especially in recent years.
>TMNT is very specific
It's really not. The Zelda franchise has a more specific pattern than the TMNT franchise.
>80s is the most iconic and marketable so it makes sense for it to be used.
See
And every other TMNT cartoon is enjoyed by old boomers who care about the franchise as a whole and not just the 80s.
In fact, exactly how many kids these days have even watched the 80s TMNT?
>TMNT's usage makes sense and it's pretty fair.
The usage is based on the dev's personal biases. How is that making sense? How is that fair? Seriously, you should stop defending such blatant bias. It's decisions made for the devs and not for any fans.
>I don't give a shit if they're not a Nickelodeon original,
Well then you're not a Nickelodeon fan. You don't care about Nickelodeon. So why are you even here?
>that's a dumb thing to focus on.
This is Nickelodeon All Star Brawl. All Star. How is 80s TMNT Nickelodeon All Stars? That's like saying Darth Vader is a Disney All Star.
>It doesn't apply either because I specifically said the "most marketable and appealing" which is objectively proven.
Nothing have been "objectively proven". Dev bias does not prove anything, objective or otherwise. And your bias doesn't prove anything either.
>At first they didn't but agreed that they're the most iconic, an insider said this.
I have heard this before and yet no one has given any proof or evidence of this. Anyone can claim to be an insider and anyone can pull info from their ass that gets treated as gospel. The source of this info is really "Dude, trust me" and has not been proven otherwise. It doesn't even make any sense due to how hard the devs had to fight for it, like how they had to fight for things that aren't iconic like Oblina.
> If they didn't want 80s TMNT ever they wouldn't have put them in their tennis game
A mobile tennis game means nothing, especially when other, actually Nickelodeon, versions of TMNT have appeared in other mobile games.
>and would've mandated another era just like how they mandated other things.
Nick wanted the franchise to be just one era but that doesn't mean they wanted it to only be the 80s. It's most likely that they just wanted only 2012 and the only one era mandate was in force before Ludosity would stop their 80s begging.
Stop writing essays over this, you moron. Especially when you're saying a whole bunch of nothing. Calling anyone who likes the 80s TMNT "old boomers who don't care for the rest of the franchise" just makes you look like a dick.
Nickelodeon agreed with that "biased decision" because they're the most marketable. If it was just Ludo and Ludo alone with Nick disagreeing we would've never had the 80s TMNT.
I'm a Nickelodeon fan, you frick. Just because I don't share your level of "must originate on Nickelodeon!" autism doesn't mean I don't care, moron. 80s TMNT is a variant of TMNT, the most iconic variant that Nick themselves had to obtain all the rights and air it on their channel.
>Not a crossover game
Still a big TMNT game that chose to feature 80s TMNT of all eras. Because even other brands agree it's the most iconic.
This right here showed that there's more reasons than just dev bias, dumb frick.
80s TMNT did the best out of all the cartoons. So the comparison doesn't work. TMNT "changed drastically" but the same characters are still used again and again. It just comes down to what era is preferred. Meanwhile with Zelda, you can't really do that the same way.
>80s TMNT did the best out of all the cartoons.
All cartoons did equally as well. And even if you're right then there's still no reason why there should only be 80s. Like you said, Breath of the Wild is the biggest Zelda game yet Smash manages to have Zelda content from more than just Breath of the Wild.
>TMNT "changed drastically" but the same characters are still used again and again.
Same with Zelda.
>It just comes down to what era is preferred.
All eras of TMNT is preferred.
>Meanwhile with Zelda, you can't really do that the same way.
Smash did do the same with Zelda until Ultimate, with the only exception being Toon Link. And that's just with the roster, there's a lot more in terms of stages and items.
So why can't TMNT do the same? It doesn't have to be limited to the 80s.
>Stop writing essays over this
I have my way, you have yours, not to mention all the essays you have made in these NASB threads over the past month you hypocrite.
You want me to stop the "essays"? OK. Only if you stop acting like a raging schizo and tone down on the needless insults and swears.
Also i was right about you being obsessed with me. Seriously, as soon as you realized i was one of the two people you were talking to you immediately focus on me while ignoring the other guy as well as dropping your nice guy facade and reveal your true raging schizo self.
>Especially when you're saying a whole bunch of nothing.
If what i say is nothing then it wouldn't be having such an effect on you like this.
>Calling anyone who likes the 80s TMNT "old boomers who don't care for the rest of the franchise" just makes you look like a dick.
I have never said such a thing.
>Nickelodeon agreed with that "biased decision" because they're the most marketable. If it was just Ludo and Ludo alone with Nick disagreeing we would've never had the 80s TMNT.
Yeah and Nickelodeon allowed Oblina, Nigel and Powdered Toast Man just because the devs begged for it, doesn't make them anything more than dev bias. Nick just didn't put their foot down hard enough and Ludosity is just too stubborn.
>I'm a Nickelodeon fan
Then start acting like it.
>Just because I don't share your level of "must originate on Nickelodeon!" autism doesn't mean I don't care
Your entire argument revolves around downplaying and dismissing the success Nickelodeon has made with the franchise. If you truly cared and aren't biased then you wouldn't be disrespecting them and their versions in such a way.
>80s TMNT is a variant of TMNT
But not Nickelodeon.
>the most iconic variant
See
>that Nick themselves had to obtain all the rights and air it on their channel.
Yeah because Nickelodeon and Hollywood as a whole is nostalgia baiting hard because they're afraid of anything new and are so desperate for money but all that nostalgia baiting isn't working anymore with all of these big name franchises flopping hard nowadays.
>Still a big TMNT game that chose to feature 80s TMNT of all eras.
Yeah because the game is an homage to the old Konami games. Like
said. Are you seriously ignoring what people tell you when they challenge and contradict your views?
>Because even other brands agree it's the most iconic.
Oh yeah, that's why the next big TMNT game is based on Last Ronin, the famous storyline from the 80s. Oh no wait that's IDW. The next big TMNT game is based on modern IDW comics.
>This right here showed that there's more reasons than just dev bias
And i gotta question this due to contradicting just how hard Nickelodeon was pushing for 2012. Especially when this info comes from Blackimar of all people.
>
>We're just saying having a TMNT show actually made by Nick
aka, yiou're saying they shouldn't be here because they didn't strictly originate from Nickelodeon. Piss off you autistic freak, your babyraging won't change the fact that 80s TMNT has loads of appeal and continues to be exposed to new generations and gain new fans. I'm one of them.
>And yet, Nick made the conscious effort to obtain the airing rights fully
Yeah because, like i said, Hollywood is nostalgia baiting hard out of desperation.
>Something they did not do with 2003.
Yes they did. They got the rights to 2003 as soon as they got the franchise.
>The fact that they branched out at all when they're known to not bother with anything that isn't Spongebob speaks to the 80s appeal.
The frick are you talking about? It speaks to the appeal of the franchise as a whole, not just the 80s. If that were true then they'd reboot the 80s version specifically instead of making their own versions.
>aka, yiou're saying they shouldn't be here because they didn't strictly originate from Nickelodeon
Now you're just trying to shove words into my mouth. I was even being polite about it like the other Anon who said the same thing, but no, you only focus on me because you're obsessed with me.
>Piss off you autistic freak, your babyraging
Wow, you really do lack self awareness huh? Have you not been reading your own posts? Have you not been seeing how demented you come across?
>won't change the fact that 80s TMNT has loads of appeal
So does every other version.
>and continues to be exposed to new generations and gain new fans.
So does every other version, but even less so due to how old it is.
>I'm one of them.
And there it is, you do have a personal stake in this, you do have a bias. You are feeling personally attacked because i dare to go against something that was your childhood. Let me guess, you can handle my words because you let them corrupt your memories of watching TMNT with your mommy and daddy? Oh please.
>It didn't say Nick owned it when I searched it up
So are you going to admit that you're wrong on this one?
>Don't care that it was available before either
Now you're being open about how you ignore info that goes against your views.
>87 got very specific attention by Nick in a way I don't see 2003 get.
2003 is getting new toys.
>2003 wasn't even featured in the 2012 show while the 80s TMNT was crammed in.
2012 still took a lot of inspiration and elements from 2003. The biggest example being Karai and her role in the story.
>You can feel that way
And yet you refuse to let me feel how i feel.
>ultimately though they have success to their name
So does every other version.
Also, he can feel that way, yet here you are with the next sentence trying to convince him otherwise.
>and to this day Nick still thinks of them as the most marketable versions of their characters.
The 80s were only hogging the spotlight for just two years and now that's starting to end with games and toys being based on other version, especially the hot new Mutant Mayhem version. If Nickelodeon views the 80s as the most marketable like you say then they wouldn't have made a new version, they would have just went back to the 80s.
Also, wow, look at all the posts you made. Nice essay hypocrite.
>That was your childhood
And you try to get on my case for "demented projecting" only for you to make up an elaborate narrative about me once again, go frick yourself. I grew up with 2012 TMNT, I only recently saw a bunch of 80s content and I liked it. Which is what I was saying in my point.
It's so hilarious how you ignored the rest of that point for a desperate attempt at a gotcha moment, you piece of shit.
>How you ignore info that goes against your views
Nope. Project harder, moron.
>2003 is getting new toys
That's the best you got? Toys? Toys that all the eras constantly get 24/7? That's pathetic.
>2012 still took inspiration
And yet the 80s Turtles directly got pushed in as major chars. Not just a side thing to dunk on them like 03 did, they got treated with a ludicrous amount of care.
>And yet you refuse to let me feel how I feel
See unlike you, that other anon is respectful and won't label people as "not true Nick fans" for preferring something you don't. You have constantly labelled entire groups of people as faux Nick fans, jaded boomers, "no standards", "compgays", etc for enjoying certain things/not hating NASB. All of these other deluded narratives about entire groups of people.
>Yet here you are with the next sentence
I'm allowed to voice my disagreement, dipshit.
>They would have just went back to the 80s
Not how that works, you hypocritical moron. 80s can be legendary while trying new eras, and then marketing tie-in stuff for that. Part of TMNT's identity is the difference between turtles and their exclusive eras. The 80s getting tossed in fanservice stuff is different than making the entire franchise stagnate. No one would that.
>Nice essay hypocrite
You initiated it once again because you can't handle reality.
*no one would want that
>I have never said such a thing
You literally fricking did, don't backtrack now.
Right here
You directly said that if anyone who doesn't mind the 80s treatment are jaded xers/millennials. You even said on another post that those who like other shows "care about the franchise as a whole" when I and numerous people like TMNT as a whole but can understand the 80s pushing.
>Then start acting like it
Frick off, I act however I want, dumbass. I don't have to share your stupid beliefs to be a Nick fan.
>Downplaying and dismissing the success
By saying 80s is more marketable? Sorry that facts hurt you so bad.
>But not Nickelodeon
It's owned by Nickelodeon, dumbass.
>See
Already debunked that stupid point. Get a better argument.
>T-They're just nostalgia baiting!
Cope harder.
>Are you seriously ignoring
Already debunked that stupid point, ESL.
>Comics
So you concede that 80s is the most iconic of the TMNT shows if you have to resort to the IDW stuff for your narrative.
Blackimar is a beta tester who has insider info from the devs and Nick themselves. If it was nothing but the devs, Viacom and Nick wouldn't have made that in-house Tennis game with 80s TMNT.
>Nostalgia baiting hard out of desperation
That's your deluded coping mechanism.
>Franchise as a whole
No it doesn't otherwise they would've got the rights to the 80s sooner. The 80s has consistently been on a pedestal. 2012 even prioritized bringing the 80s Turtles in as major chars and didn't do the same for the other variants. 80s got a resurgence in numbers and attention so Nickelodeon finally pulled the trigger.
>Now you're just shoving words in my mouth
It's literally what you claimed, moron.
>Wow, you really do lack self awareness
You're a hypocritical buffoon for saying that only to do what you accuse others of doing.
>So does every other version
No matter how you cope, 80s is the most marketable and iconic.
>did equally as well
That's objectively wrong. There's still plenty of reason, Zelda doesn't have the need for brand synergy while TMNT chars are always on a similar boat.
>Same with Zelda
No. There's multiple games without Ganon. BOTW didn't even have a Ganondorf until Tears of the Kingdom.
>All eras of TMNT is preferred
Have fun lying to yourself.
>Why can't TMNT do the same
Different franchise, different rules, moron.
>Stop acting like a raging schizo
Maybe if you stop being a dishonest dickhead. I can't stand your dumbass attitude where you'll try and play morals like you aren't insulting the frick out of entire groups of people.
>That's objectively wrong.
You should stop using the word "objectively". You're overusing it. And you're using it wrong given how there's more evidence to support all TMNT cartoons doing equally as well, with the exception of Rise, although Rise is getting vindicated.
>There's still plenty of reason, Zelda doesn't have the need for brand synergy while TMNT chars are always on a similar boat.
Well i'm saying it doesn't and shouldn't have to be that way.
>No. There's multiple games without Ganon. BOTW didn't even have a Ganondorf until Tears of the Kingdom.
Yeah so? He's still the main antagonists of the franchise. Also you're intentionally ignoring Link and Zelda.
>Have fun lying to yourself.
Says the guy telling himself that only the 80s has a fanbase.
And don't try telling me "I never said that" when that's what you have been constantly implying.
>Different franchise, different rules
And i'm saying that needs to change.
>Maybe if you stop being a dishonest dickhead. I can't stand your dumbass attitude where you'll try and play morals like you aren't insulting the frick out of entire groups of people.
You are quite literally doing the exact same thing that you're accusing me of doing. You're the one who has been insulting entire groups of people. You're the one who has been insulting all versions of TMNT that's not the 80s, insulting the people who worked on those versions and their fans. You have been the most disrespectful person in this entire thread just based on you disrespecting everything that's not 80s TMNT alone.
I'm getting tired so i'm gonna go to bed now. Just want you to know that i don't agree with anything you have said, i just don't wanna respond to it now. But i will if the thread is still up when i wake up. But if the thread archives before i can reply to everything else you posted then i'll let it go because apparently unlike you i don't obsess over this to the point that i feel the need to reply to posts from an archived thread.
There is no evidence, the hard facts show 80s had the biggest boom. 2012 and 03 were successes too but 80s TMNT was a ridiculous phenomenon.
>It doesn't and shouldn't
It should when it comes to the turtles whose identities center around being a cohesive unit. Zelda and Link are fairly independent in comparison.
>He's still the main antagonists
A main antagonist whose form doesn't show up in most eras. You can't exactly make a dominant Zelda era in crossovers because of that.
>That only the 80s a fanbase
You misread everything I'm arguing for if that's what you believe. But of course, you tend to be disingenuous.
>You are quite literally doing the exact same thing
I'm not calling you a fake Nick fan for having a different opinion on NASB and its IPs. You're the dumbass that claimed I'm not a fan of Nick for preferring the crossover TMNT rep the way it was. Saying the 80s is more marketable like literal insiders have claimed is not this big insult you think it is, moron. I could care less if you "haven't agreed with what I said". Also, you totally have replied with posts from an archived thread, your holier than thou attitude consistently proves how much of a hypocritical obnoxious dickhead you act.
Where the HELL is Zim's showcase?
>Zimgay gloats about how great his showcase will be
>Doesn't get one
It would be funny and fitting for the character given his luck in the show but Don't worry anon, I'm sure it will come soon.
>The Zim showcase is by Kobazco
MVS fans are unironically requesting Goku and anime chars over Spongebob.
Sakurai watching Goku's reveal trailer in Multiversus
>implying that Nick and Warner will even humor the thought of their games getting any reveal trailer on the level of Smash Bros
Iroh and Rocksteady are the only two bad choices, but it makes you wonder what Chad Thad is thinking with these being 2 of the 4 DLC picks.
Guys what if Bugs Bunny gets into NASB3?
You get him in, but he has a spammable reddit big chungus move.
I'm mad that Disney bought Fox because otherwise we could have had a xenomorph in Multiversus.
>we could have had a xenomorph in Multiversus.
Don't worry, we'll get that in Kingdom Hearts 4 as a secret boss.
The Cinemaphile thread is now talking about indie horror games but i can't join in because like i said i am banned.
>We need a parody horror game where you play as some badass old fashioned monster dude kills and skins all the cartoony cutesy mascot horrorshits.
>tfw i have been working on an idea like this but i can't join the discussion because i am banned from Cinemaphile
I made that post, what the hell?
Am I banned too now? Maybe I got warned.
Wait, no, it's there on my end. Weird.
I seriously hope you finish it, I'd love to play that. Do you have anything you can share somewhere?
Apologies but i haven't gotten far with it. So far all i got is WIP concept art along with plot synopsis, main character synopsis and mechanics.
I have posted some of the details on Cinemaphile before so if i can find them in the archive then i'll copy/paste it along with adding updates.
Oh yeah, i forgot. Sorry.
Here's my plans for a horror comedy game that's a parody and piss take of mordern indie horror games such as FNAF, Bendy, Poppy's Playtime, etc.
It revolves around a man who's got his frontal lobe damaged early in life so he literally can't feel fear, instead he sees everything around him as just more to have fun with no matter how dangerous it may be.
This causes him to be the perfect monster exterminator so he picks up jobs going to abandoned building, haunted houses, etc to deal with whatever horrors are plaguing the area.
That's just a quick synopsis but there's more to it like its crude and dark humor and parodies of the aforementioned games.
I also give reasons for the MC do typical horror game stuff like crafting and respawning.
He's an expert crafter because when he's not hunting down horrors he has a job owning a wacky knickknacks shop where he sell electrocution games, ghetto music boxes, boob balloons, etc. He has worked with these knickknacks by reverse engineering them, and rebuilding them into weaponry he used to kill and humiliate such monsters and abominations he comes across.
The reason why and how he can respawn is because he's good enough to not go to Hell and he's bad enough to not go to Heaven and yet has managed to piss of both the Heavens and the Hells to the point they have granted him immortality just because neither side wants to deal with him so every time he dies they just throw him right back to Earth.
There's also sexual comedy with the MC. He's not into normal women. What you and i would consider sexy he considers ugly. He is not into normal women, no, he's into monster women, and the more monstrous the women the harder he gets. Small black eyes, rough blue flesh, extra limbs and a tail or two, that's what gets him going, as long as he knows for sure that what he's looking at is indeed female.
I also plan on adding a merchant simulation aspect to the game where you can sell items you find on missions as well as wacky knickknacks you can create. Kind of like Recettear: An Item Shop's Tale but with horror and creating your own knickknacks.
Sounds cool, are you looking for any artists? I like drawing monsters.
And to keep it Cinemaphile related I like drawing cartoons too, if you're going for a wackier style. I wish there was a better thread to discuss this, sucks you're banned from Cinemaphile.
My ban is temporary and it actually gets lifted tomorrow so that's great.
Also i would love to have an artist but i only have the money to commission just a few pieces of concept art. I have at least $100 to spend.
Honestly if the ideas are fun enough I'd just like to draw a few for the hell of it, maybe if you're in the game dev threads ir wherever you'd post for it we can discuss it more. Next we meet, anon.
Til we meet again.
Although i promise you that i'll work at least a 3D model to present the next time i bring up the game.
You need to do three meme arrows before the post if it's cross board
Tony and Thaddeus are arguing in the thread 🙁
CHADkurai would NEVER.
>puts in character you don't want
>I like them, deal with it
Based
Sakurai is dogshit tier
Oh look at me I'm going to give Wario a brap move WHEN PRINCESS PEACH IS
RIGHT
THERE!
Total hack.
Sakurai dabs on you brapgays and claps back with his superior petrificationgay tastes.
What are your thoughts on NASB2's soundtrack?
Looks promising, I want to hear more of it.
Kitty.
Carried that show on her back
Dudley was better
And hotter
I think you mean pussy.
So any reason WHY they're paying $50 for this shit?
Because it looks a lot better than the first game.
Looks alone aren't enough to justify a purchase.
The downgraded roster, poor DLC practices and barebones campaign easily outweighs how the game looks.
>The downgraded roster
Debatable. Also, base NASB1 had 20 characters on launch while this game has 25.
>poor DLC practices
Krabs, Zuko, and Iroh are all highly requested characters.
>barebones campaign
Source?
>Also, base NASB1 had 20 characters on launch while this game has 25.
It's a quantity =/= quality thing.
>Krabs, Zuko, and Iroh are all highly requested characters.
I was referring to how the costume DLC is being handled but if you wanna bring up the DLC characters then i'll say that the reception to them has been lukewarm at best with Mr Krabs and Zuko being the only two that most people are into but even then people admit that they should have been base game, especially with Zuko along with Iroh adding more confusion and ire to the DLC's reception. Iroh wasn't really highly requested as you claim he is. Yeah he's a popular character in the Avatar franchise but no one really requested him due to people just wanting Zuko. And Rocksteady is a very controversial decision that just worsens the overall reception of the DLC.
>Source?
From the same people who have been leaking all the info we have gotten and have been 100% right. All signs point to the campaign being barebones with no real story to it. It got so bad that the Reddit is still damage controlling over it.