A week before Hannah Gutierrez-Reed is set to go to trial for the fatal 2021 shooting of Rust cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, the movie’s former armorer has failed in her latest effort to have the case dismissed.
>“I find that the communications are not materially prejudicial to the defendant,” New Mexico Judge Mary Marlowe Sommer ruled in swatting away the defense’s motion that Gutierrez-Reed’s case has been polluted, citing the sharing of a detailed report full of private correspondence by the armorer with a state witness. “I’m denying the motion.”
>Although Rust star-producer Alec Baldwin was re-charged with manslaughter claims by a New Mexico grand jury January 19, a year to the day he was originally charged over Hutchins’ death on the Bonanza Creek Ranch set, no trial date has been scheduled in his case. Baldwin entered a not guilty plea January 31. There is a virtual status hearing on his case on the court docket for February 20.
>Having pleaded not guilty to charges of involuntary manslaughter and tampering with evidence, Gutierrez-Reed faces up to three years behind bars if convicted.
https://deadline.com/2024/02/rust-shooting-armorer-
why does anyone listen to women about guns?
ive never seen a women at a gun range that wasnt being dragged along by her man.
I had to drag my gf to the range every time I went shooting. She would just sit on the ground and play in the dirt like a child. It's like jesus chris I have to sit through your shitty wes anderson films the least you can do is pretend my new rifle is fricking awesome as hell.
My trans gf goes to the range with me every week lmao
>my male gf enjoys male hobbies
Hi /misc/!
wasn't funny the last 100 times and isn't funny now
ywnbaw and neither is ur freak bf
What she did to you was psychologically abusive, classic toxic narcissist behaviour.
A new rifle probably is a lot cooler than some stupid woman lol
The thing is I bought her a 20 gauge so she could shoot too and she barely even gave it a try.
Women are so fricking boring.
>Women are so fricking boring
so on point
Maybe dont take her places she doesnt like.
>you gotta do what the woman wants to do all the time and give up all your own interests.
Why can't you go to the gun range alone?
For the same reason I go see to jazz clubs with her when jazz is god awfully boring. I give it a try. Couples do things together even if they aren't exactly perfectly matched. You're suppose to be supportive and take interest in what your partner does.
>You're suppose to be supportive and take interest in what your partner does.
You don't need to share every interest together. It's honestly better to find things that are new to both of you to get into and enjoy learning together than to pick something you already like and are experienced in and then make her play catch up and feel like she's just getting in your way, or that she simply doesn't have an interest in.
Nothing as grim as seeing a woman's boyfriend or husband following her around while she's clothes shopping
>Women are so fricking boring.
you picked the a boring c**t, so you think all women are boring. Maybe date goth chicks or grls that are into sports and dancing. You know girls that are active and fit.
Do not marry her. If you think she is disrespectful of your activities now it will get worse.
>plays in the dirt
anon this is why the age of consent exist. don't date a 9 yo next time
lol why didn't you hand her your gun and teach her how to shoot? My ex was a terrible shot but at least she tried.
Didn't the armorer have a thing with playing in dirt while shooting, too? She has a reputation of keeping her ammo on the bare ground and loading her guns from there like a 4 year old
Letting a 4 year old play with guns is not very responsible. You might get shot for fricking em
modern women act like children. It's ridiculous.
My GF is mildly stupid. She has a hard time following instructions and can't do things like cook or do laundry correctly. She has ruined half my shirts with bleach spots. Teaching her how to use a PS2 emulator took an entire day and she still doesn't know how to work it.
Picture?
She sounds great, and you two clearly aren't compatible.
>she doesn't like to go to the range.
>YOURE NOT COMPATIBLE BASED SOLELY ON THIS INFORMATION
My baby might not be the brightest girl to ever live but I love her.
I didn't go all the way back to the original comment until now. Your girlfriend is a fricking childish loser and you should dump her, then find a new woman and take my advice from the previous comment.
>shitty wes anderson films
Anon, there's no such thing.
ok darlin go back to browsing instagram.
Just develop better taste, it's not hard.
Stop discussing movies, where do you think you are?
>expecting a woman to like guy things
Are you mad she doesn't have a fricking wiener too? There's a utility to learning how to shoot which she should absolutely learn, but there's no reason to expect a woman to want to play soldiers with you in her free time.
I once went on a first date with a farm girl who took me shooting. She had a few pistols and a rifle which is impressive for a Canadian in these times. Unfortunately, she moved away like 2 weeks later for work.
My female friend is the world cup representative of our country in IPSC/Practical.
Just because you haven't seen a gun nut woman doesn't mean they don't exist.
Firstly, she's not your "friend." And women like her are within a statistical margin of error for all women. Anon can reasonably ask why would anyone listen to a woman about guns, because his statement applies to 99.9% of women.
Simp harder.
Based, that condescending tone of that post pisses me off.
There is no such thing as a margin of error on a universal quantifier. Universal quantifiers are universal. "All prime numbers are greater than 2" is not a true statement just because 2 falls with the "margin of error" of the infinite number of primes greater than 2.
>make sweeping universal statement
>get triggered when someone else brings up a single exception
What did you expect?
Erm you are assuming gender here and that's not ok. You might be indeed replying to a woman.
ALL WOMEN ARE THE SAME NOT A SINGLE ONE IS DIFFERENT JUST LIKE HOW ALL MEN ARE THE SAME WHICH NY THE WAY IS GREAT AND AWESOME AND COOL.
you sound like a child.
That's pretty impressive for.. a woman.
>Says my country
>Competition shooting
Nogunz homosexual Yourapeenin detected. Shooting pellet guns from a vice onto a target 30 feet away doesn't make someone a gun nut
>why does anyone listen to women about guns?
When you are doing a production on the cheap but need to hire a two-for to meet your diversity quota.
well if you've never seen it I guess it doesn't exist
Dumb incel, some of the best shooters of all time have been women
They banned women from Olympic shooting in the 90s because a woman won gold against men and chuds were embarrassed
my gf cooked food with me once lmao and we ate it together and chatted then sat on the sofa kissing and watching something on tv.
also my gf lol kissed and cuddled me lmfao
also my gf.
>Sassy Tallahassee blocks your path
Why is she even on trial? It was that fat greasy Baldwin who shot someone in a scene that didn’t involve any shooting so he never should have pointed the gun and pulled the trigger when he murdered that conveniently placed ukrainian woman
I did not see her buying anyone pancakes.
Why did she give him a loaded gun? Both at fault.
If I was an actor on set and someone handed me a gun I would check if it was loaded and what it was loaded with and I'm not even american
Gross. I bet you smell like pee.
Why would you check a fake gun if it's loaded? Third worlders are fricking moron.
Most of the guns they use on set in the us are real guns. I don’t understand why they call them props, it sounds like hebrew nonsense to me.
There are guns and then there are prop guns
Well this is America not Finland or something. You don't trust the other.
They do use a lot of stunt guns because of all the action movies stuff can be dangerous or painful with real metal weapons. Imagine diving out of the way in a scene and landing on an M4.
They definitely need to stop calling the real ones props tho.
"Prop" doesn't mean "fake". "Prop" means it's a prop. If you have a stage play where you need to throw a wadded up piece of paper at someone, that paper ball is a prop.
very insightful thanks bro
Prop gun: deactivated or replica weapon to be carried by extras or used as set decoration. Responsibility of the Properties master.
Filming or ‘Action’ gun: any weapon capable of, or being used to, discharge, including blank-firing weapons, gas guns, smoke guns etc. to be treated as real loaded weapons at all times. Responsibility of the armourer.
Thats the difference.
Gun safety is also following the commonsense models of firearm safety and industry best-practice. Pic related.
Close but not quite.
>gun safety is moronic
Your post is exactly how Baldwin ended up killing a woman
>alec has a 100% win rate against ukraine
Uh how is he allowed to do this bros?
He is the Ghost of Dennys
>alec has a 100% win rate against ukraine
Damn, does that mean he has 100% more win rate against Ukraine than Russia?
>gun safety
For something that isn't a supposed to be a gun. Gun safety is done by the armorer and not giving the actor a loaded gun instead of a prop.
It was Alec's fault. Every actor knows the camera adds ten rounds.
Underrated
His responsibility is also in that he is very experienced with guns, the armorer was there that day and he was the executive producer of his own project
*wasn't there
Idk I read an article today and apparently she was there but she got "bullied" into not doing a safety check. There are pictures of her in a cop car presumably at the scene.
To be fair, the nepo b***h wasn't even around. The producer who got killed is also responsible for her own death as is the one who got shot who pulled the gun off the trolley
Everybody fricked up their job. Literally everybody. I’m sick of this binary shit. The AD is a fricking moron who went a grabbed the prop gun off true armorer’s cart while she wasn’t there. That is a huge fricking no. He didn’t check it at all. That’s also a huge fricking no. There also happened to be a real fricking bullet in it because the dumb armorer girl wasn’t supervising her guns properly AT ALL. The AD should not be able to just grab them off your cart while you’re at crafty. That’s fricking deranged. Keep them locked up when you’re not around. Also, either she or someone involved in the movie was using her guns to shoot beer cans on the weekends, which is allegedly why there was a real bullet in there. Either she is covering for someone (bad) or it was her doing the shooting (fricking worse). Then Alec fricking Baldwin doesn’t check the gun (the AD told him it was cold, so I don’t honestly blame Alec 100% for this), AFTER hiring this nepo babby idiot who has had multiple previous incidents of accidental discharges on set.
THEY ALL FRICKED UP. In my opinion it goes (from most to least) The girl, the AD, then Alec. But let me be clear, they all absolutely failed at their jobs.
I have worked on countless indie movie sets and I’m surprised this shit doesn’t happen more often. Producers cut corners for breakfast and hire morons all the time. But I worked on a civil war movie with an experienced armorer who watched his guns like a fricking hawk and screamed at anyone who went near them without his permission.
You people are misusing the word nepo baby.
She outright lied to Alec about her qualifications.
She was terrified of guns, and had been fired the only time she had been an assistant on an armorer job.
Alec called looking for her dad, he wasn't there, and she lied to Alec telling him that she frequently worked with her dad and was an armorer too.
Alec didn't check her bonafides and hired her because she was cheap, and dad was busy, and he needed someone NOW.
Her dad was a legend in the film industry for fifty years, not some idiot that used his name to get his fat waste of space daughter a job under false pretenses.
Thell Reed lives in Southern California, she lives in New Mexico. Where do you get this shit?
Here I will agree with you and say the guns probably should have been locked away but in public I would never say that for fear of my statements being used as fuel to promote laws requiring locking guns up in the home
Prop guns are real guns loaded with blanks anon
>a fake gun
How did a fake gun fire a bullet?
How did a "fake gun" kill someone?
moron.
I've heard you aren't supposed to do that because the armorer is supposed to be the last to handle loading it. I would definitely have the armorer show me the ammo, prove they aren't real bullets and then watch them get loaded.
You are correct.
Most productions nowadays want as few people fricking with the gun as possible to minimize the chances of negligent discharges. Insurance is a god damned nightmare.
Legal frickery means that most production contracts state that it's ultimately the armorer's responsibility to make sure that nobody fricks with the guns or loads real bullets in them.
She was too young and inexperienced to be hired for the position, frankly whoever hired her should be blacklisted, but criminally, it's a bizarre case.
was it a nightmare before the whole Baldwin Arby's visit? I guess premiums went up after that lol
>I would definitely have the armorer show me the ammo, prove they aren't real bullets and then watch them get loaded.
and then you never get to work again for duckassing around on productions that cannot afford to waste time
>info straight from your ass
You think someone like Alec can't take the time?
This. Nobody has time to check if the gun is loaded.
I check to see if my rifles are loaded every time I put them away. It takes like 2 fricking seconds.
Sure you do... even when you have a buy two get one free coupon for Dennys that is set to expire. Everyone is perfect EXCEPT the actual perfect
It's basic gun safety moron. If you can't follow some simple rules when handling a deadly object you shouldn't be fricking handling one.
fricking non americans have no idea how guns work.
You see this watch? This watch is worth more than your car and it is actually a gun and it may be loaded. Frick if I know. Choose your next words carefully. I do not care if you are 9. You are a pig.
what the frick are you even talking about. Nothing you said there makes sense.
I have never seen a more obvious indian.
You have to be 18+ to post here, sweetie.
>Doesn't make sense of original post
>doubles down
You're literally moronic.
>doesn't recognize two of Alec Baldwin's most iconic lines.
You're a literal child, or a pajeet, and in either case, you don't belong on Cinemaphile.
maybe I don't give a shit about alec baldwin.
And maybe when someone says you're not making sense, explaining yourself is the better option rather than being a moron about it.
lmao btfo
But I can see being a moron is really easy for you. Pretty clear why you chose that option.
Hehe mmmmm hmmmm
Hollywood morons are mostly libcucks that don’t know shit about guns so it makes sense that they accidentally kill each other with them
>can't take two seconds to verify a gun is loaded
Why are turd worlders so poor and dumb?
Even if it's a real gun, why would a gun for a movie be loaded at all though? Shouldn't they basically always be safe to handle?
>Even if it's a real gun, why would a gun for a movie be loaded at all though? Shouldn't they basically always be safe to handle?
That's the reason this case exists. The armorer's job is to handle guns, and it's a monumental frickup that real ammo was anywhere on set that day.
That's why it's strange.
It could have been a mixup between real rounds and dummy rounds.
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Dummy rounds look identical to real bullets but they make a sound when you shake them, though visually you could miss the difference if you're not paying much attention.
The armorer could've had both real and dummy rounds at home and accidentally took & loaded real ones on set without checking properly
If it was a dummy, there's always something on it to tell even if you don't shake it. It's in the video, so even if it was a mix up it would be found out quickly.
It was loaded into a revolver's cylinder, which obscures most of what it looks like, by an armorer who didn't check to an actor who also didn't check
You're going to hold and look at it before it's loaded.
Maybe not if you're a moronic woman, I don't know anon. I think the criminal amount of negligence/incompetence angle is more plausible than a conspiracy theory
That doesn't make any god damn sense.
>The armorer could've had both real and dummy rounds at home and accidentally took & loaded real ones on set without checking properly
the thing is dummy rounds are never meant to be fired so its possible people handling them might get sloppy since they are used in gun-belts and bandoliers for show and when put in firearms the trigger is not supposed to be pulled since they wont fire anyway.
>Dummy rounds look identical to real bullets
No. Most dummy rounds have a small hole or slot cut in the brass and a fake or pulled primer. Your own example shows the dummy round having a case crimped in the body.
Dummy cases are normally also stamped with a fake ammo brand, in this case it was ‘Lone Star’.
In a twist, Gutierrez-Reed actually sued the weapons supplier for the film, PDQ Arm and Prop, for having ‘Lone Star’ brand dummy rounds that had been reloaded into live ammo.
>The armorer could've had both real and dummy rounds at home and accidentally took & loaded real ones on set without checking properly
then 100% lock her up for being moronic. Why would she carry that shit home with her.
That's also my thought, and also why I think it's odd that anyone would blame Baldwin for this. Like yeah you should always check if a weapon is loaded in pretty much any other situation where you're handling a gun, but as a film actor it really seems like it should be incredibly obvious that its the fault of the person handing this actor a loaded gun, ie the armorer.
it was part of the shot they were shooting, Baldwin points a gun straight down the camera. You can see the bullets from the chamber so it has to be loaded. They were supposed to load blanks but it got loaded with real bullet was the issue
This is a Murphy's law cluster frick. Just dont point a gun at someone ever.
They'd often be loaded with blanks to produce a bulletless bang. Many actors have died from a blank being fired at close/point-blank range because it still propels wadding and gas that can injure or kill.
>Lol but WHY would a gun have a BULLET in it?
Because it's a fricking gun and guns are literally designed to be loaded with and fire bullets? Hence why Gun Saftey stipulates you DON'T frick around with them like Baldwin did.
The actor checked if it was loaded by pulling the trigger.
>rare behind the scenes picture of rust armourer at work
this is what AI says Kurt Gobang from Nirvana would look like today
It's an old timey revolver - you can see if it's loaded because the bullets are visible.
...So they have to load fake bullets.
This is why almost all fatal movie shootings like this involve old-timey revolvers, because you have to trust the armourer when they tell you it's not loaded.
Baldwin did nothing wrong - he's just loud and annoying and hates Trump.
>Baldwin did nothing wrong
moron take. He was a producer and the set had other incidents. People walked off the same day for safety reasons. He is a veteran actor and producer.
Based psycho moron anon.
He did nothing wrong with believing that the gun wasn't dangerous.
The people actually walked off over a pay dispute, which is pretty common with indie stuff.
"Producer" is often an honorary title given to major stars.
It's true that Baldwin may be liable in his role as producer for safety issues on set - but if that's the case, then why aren't the other SIX producers being charged?
Basically, charging Baldwin makes no sense.
Except he pointed a gun at a lady and that resulted in her death. There is that.
>Lose argument
> Immediately go back to first stupid statement
Based moron
not the same anon dipshit.
>I didn't read the thread and I'm just repeating the same meme argument!
>BET YOU FEEL PRETTY SILLY FOR CRITICIZING ME NOW!!!
Fricking moron
I read the thread and posted in it a couple times... just just skip most the redundant stupid shit and it turns out you wrote most of it. I think you are dumb, your mother is a prostitute, and any pet you may have should be boiled and shoved up your ass. What of it, pussy?
It makes perfect sense if Alec was the one who hired her without checking her qualifications or asking any of her references.
Which Alec did not verify.
If:
>Baldwin hired her (there's no evidence he did)
>Didn't check any references (how would you even prove that?)
>Her references were bad (They weren't - they were glowing, because they were all from her father and his buddies)
>None of the other SIX producers or the director were involved in any way
...Then, yes, he could have some liability.
But that's a very silly fanfic that doesn't line up with known details or how things work on movie sets
You're lying through your teeth.
I suspect that you are israeli.
You don't know anything about this case moron. Baldwin isn't being charged due to his role as producer. He is being charged for firing the gun when it is an undisputed fact that at no point was he instructed to fire the gun as part of the shot they were capturing at the time.
Firing a real gun, while pointed at someone, for no reason, even if you believe it to be unloaded, is reckless to the point of criminal liability. Had he been instructed to fire the gun it would be a different story, but he wasn't.
Perhaps something to do with him pointing a gun at someone and shooting them dead mate.
He was only acting like he was shooting a gun. Unfortunatlly the camera lady could not just act like she was dead because that is a different union.
Everything released makes it sound like the movie had a small budget, was already over budget and was cutting corners on expenses everywhere including hiring people who had no business being hired just because they were cheap
With all the cut corners and budget worries on this production it is strange the bullet casing had the camera woman's name engraved on it. I do suppose Alec may have had that done AFTER though when he had it made into a necklace.
Yeah there were major problems and dangerous situations before the shooting accident, it was a cluster frick production
And how would you know if it was love ammo or a blank when you have no firearms knowledge or training?
>Why did she give him a loaded gun? Both at fault.
She wasn't even on set when he 'received' a loaded gun. Again, there should never have been a gun in that rehearsal.
>Give me a knife.
>I stab a baby to death with it.
>"Well YOU gave me the knife! That means it's YOUR fault!"
An actor is not a gun expert, that's why the hire a gun expert to take the responsibility of the guns. Reed is 100% at fault for this.
It's like those BB guns that you shoot balloons at the carnival with. If the game attendant gave the kid an actual loaded gun instead of a BB, and it shot through the back of the stand killed someone behind it, who's fault is that? The attendant or the kid?
Yeah I mean how was he to know that if you point a gun at someone and pull the trigger this could happen?
>An actor is not a gun expert, that's why the hire a gun expert to take the responsibility of the guns. Reed is 100% at fault for this
Actors receive training on firearm safety
Baldwin is a career hollywood actor and the safe handling of firearms is absolutely a skill required for that. He has handled firearms in countless films in a career spanning decades.
Baldwin was grossly negligent in his handling of the firearm, and through his actions enabled two people to be shot and one killed. He is 100% culpable for the wrongful death and maiming.
Gutierrez-Reed's job is not the safe handling of firearms - it is ensuring the safe condition of firearms and providing training to the safe handling of firearms by actors on set. She is 100% culpable for gross negligence in her role too.
The producers (including Baldwin) are further culpable for negligence in their management role of ensuring safe practices are carried out. Doubly so since there were documented safety issues with the production, leading to personnel actually walking out in mutiny, at which point production addressed none of the concerns and simply hired new crew who were willing to continue under unsafe conditions.
Basically, if even one of these groups had not been negligent, this tragedy would have been avoided
>if Baldwin (acting) had not pointed the firearm at two people and/or had not pulled the trigger, nobody would have been shot
>if Gutierrez-Reed had not negligently permitted ammunition on set/in the gun, and/or had not been negligent in ensuring the unloaded status of the gun, and/or had not permitted Baldwin to handle the gun inappropriately, nobody would have been shot
>if Baldwin et al. (producing) had followed established safety rules, to include firearm shielding for crew and mandatory firearm awareness & training, and hiring of qualified personnel in the firearm capacity, nobody would have been shot
But they all fricked up and somebody died
All are liable
New Mexico law says that if you have a weapon in your hand, and it discharges, you are the one responsible for the consequences.
Being on a movie set does not exempt you from the law.
she didn't do her job properly and it contributed to someone getting killed, why would she *not* be on trial?
Basic gun safety is to treat all guns as if they’re loaded and it would take literally half a minute to check if a six shooter was loaded with real bullets or not. I don’t see how anyone other than the moron that pulls the trigger of a gun can be held accountable for killing someone
because of what i said, she didn't do her job properly and it contributed to someone getting killed. alec carries more blame yes, but how does that absolve her? there are 2 guilty people here
if they ignored protocol and the customer died from food poisoning as a result, sure
what are the protocols for an actor using a prop gun on a movie set?
why are you talking as if im defending alec? im not defending anyone, but you're defending a woman who didn't do her job
Alec does not need defense, he shoots first and buys breakfast after. She was not even there and it was unschedualed filming as far as has been reported.
Jewywood doesn’t exist in its own little bubble you moron. The person wielding the gun is responsible for whatever happens when they pull the trigger
see
he's mainly responsible and should get a much harsher punishment, but that doesn't absolve her of any responsibility. her responsibility should also not lessen his punishment
stop being a dumb simp, she's not gonna frick you
She's the one who's supposed to be following basic gun safety for the actor, that's literally her job.
They're both guilty, but you're wrong in how they're guilty.
If I hand you a gun and tell you its not loaded and then you point it at another person and pull the trigger and it turns out the gun actually was loaded and you kill the person you just shot on purpose then how is that my fault?
because it's your job and you're responsible for gun safety on the set. you brought live ammunition and put everyone at risk because you fricked up the most basic part of your job
it would be more my fault than yours, but you wouldn't be innocent
Alec won’t be going away unsucked at least
what?
His balls are empty from all this dick sucking
>nobody defending baldwin, they're both guilty
>starts thinking about his dick for no reason
ok homosexual, have fun with that
who is sucking his dick? all im seeing is people saying he's responsible, and here's you desperately simping for an incompetent woman
>he said in a fake spanish accent while wiping his chin with his sleeve
you would literally be charged in accessory to the crime, stop pretending to be moronic
So, should drvethru workers be required to slap the food out of the hands of fatasses?
If there's kids in the car, yes. Same basic idea behind placing legal liability on bartenders.
she had one job and she failed at it
>Why is she even on trial?
She didnt check the type of ammo she bought and loaded live rounds into the gun
Her excuse that she was given the wrong ammo type from the seller is moronic since as an armorer its your job to check the gun regardless
Its a 3 way faults of hers, sellers and Baldwins, they need to drag in the moron who sold her live ammo too, how the frick do you even sell ammo by mistake?
Seller would get excluded as he sold ammunition to a supposed expert that should have known better, as well as double and triple checked to make sure the prop was safe to use. Plus we don't know if she can even prove her claims.
Dunno whats the law in burgerland but in Poland the seler would get 8 years sentence.
You cant own yet alone sell ammo without proper permits for that specific gun type, if it was mix up he would still get 6 months and lose all his permits.
She went to buy dummies, from a supposed manufacturer of them, he instead sold her fake dummies that in reality were loaded with actual gunpowder instead of some fake crap, no excuse, he should be charged too.
and the fact that she was shooting live rounds for fun in-between filming shows she's a moronic liar and most likely left the live round in the gun herself.
pretty sure its a rumor
her defense is blaming the supplier, she claims she trusted they were all dummies and tries to dodge criminal neglect by shifting blame
Because she had a duty of care to prepare the guns in a way that wouldn't result in them being loaded with live rounds and that users operated them safely. Much like Baldwin had a duty of care to ensure the gun was not loaded with live rounds and to operate it safely.
Baldwin had an additional vicarious responsibility as director/production owner to make sure Reed and others did her job and the workplace was a safe one, although that is more likely to be a civil rather than criminal wrongdoing.
>ITT gays who don't know about real guns with blanks
you can't tell the difference, you would have to unload the gun and check if the cartdrige has a bullet or not
Starter pistols with blanks do not even have a bore in the barrel, but that is not at all what they use in film.
She had live rounds on the set in the first place.
HE.
Baldwin bought and brought the ammo on set.
She brought nothing but her stupid fat ass to set.
Both of them need to at minimum spend the rest of their life in jail.
What you are overlooking is Alec also bought three medium orange juices the very next day. Now, he did not drink one and Denny's CHARGES for refils. He not only paid his debt to society he left a 15% tip.
>both
no, she should spend the rest of this year at least sitting on my face and sliding back and forth while alternately farting and pissing.
baldwin should be forced to fund a real The Shadow to patrol the streets of new york, preferably cutting that secret israelite wire down every night in as many places as possible.
Side boob
I thought Red Dead Online had better graphics.
Is there one of these of the armourer? Fricking around with the ammo and what not.
why didnt she just dodge the bullet?
women are so moronic
The worst thing about this case is that it pushes Hollywood use more and more plastic guns with shitty looking CGI muzzle flashes and bullet hits, instead of proper blanks and squibs. I fricking hate this trend.
I agree. The worst thing isnt even the shitty CGI, it is the lack of reaction from the actors firing.
Been watching older movies, after being oriented on armorer practices and gun safety on set through this case what they've done forever of using blanks and firing just above/below/to the side works well. You can't even tell half the time since they're doing angle tricks, but that takes effort and know-how which are two resources sorely lacking.
I hope she gets what she deserves, Baldwinbros.
You can say what you like about Baldwin's Trump impression, but his DIck Cheney impression was a fricking bullseye
Whos nepobaby is she tho? Seems more of a diversity hire than a nepobaby.
Mere coincidence that of the 4 billion possible diversity hires, they picked one that is the daughter of an armorer.
>Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, daughter of long-time industry armorer Thell Reed.
>Reed competed so successfully that he became one of six "Combat Masters", so called because they would almost always take the first six places in the competition.[1] Of the six Combat Masters, Reed had the quickest draw.[2]
>After the SWCPL matches, Reed went on to compete in fast draw competitions in which he achieved fame. His celebrity gained him entry into the movie industry and he became an advisor to the movie industry on the use of firearms. He trained actors such as Russell Crowe and Brad Pitt for acting roles involving the use of pistols.[3] He also trained Michael Biehn for the film Tombstone.
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Live rounds look different than blank rounds, you'd literally have to be moronic to mix them up. This wasn't an accident, but an "Accident" .
Which begs the question, why did they have full metal jacket rounds (or hollowpoint whatever) on the set at all?
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No one knows why, that's why I think it was a hit made to look like an accident. I'm not even a tinfoil-hat kind of guy, but something is weird about this whole thing. With the obvious difference in how a blank looks in comparison to a live round, it doesn't make sense that such a big "mistake" was made.
Hmm.
Allegedly people on the crew were taking the guns and shooting beer cans on the weekends.
Source?
https://www.thewrap.com/halyna-hutchins-live-ammo-target-practice/
You ever seen a China rekt vid where someone falls into a trash compactor where there are zero safety measures on equipment that would have a dozen failsafes in America, the land of the goy that barely cares about its employees either bit somehow manages to be slightly better? That zoomer hoe got nepobabied into a position of responsibility she was very unprepared for, because they obviously dismissed very basic firearms safety measures that even Joe schmoe plinking in his backyard would follow.
They were taking the guns off site to shoot cans in their off time, which is fine, but then that live ammo didn't stay off site, it was obviously kept close enough to get mixed up. Such a trivial mistake, that lady was probably gonna die no matter what due to incompetence of the people around her, I bet they strangled her trying to render aid lmao
To be fair, he has been known around hollywood as Alec "get it in one shot or I will" Baldwin for years.
Big if true!
>Mr. Sussman
>mr. Sus Man
wasnt she not even on set the day of the incident?
I remember reading they cleared the set for some reason, and a skeleton crew stayed behind. The armorer left, and the story floating around was that an assistant director or someone just grabbed it from her stuff. Did they grab a loaded weapon? Did they load it from whatever ammo they found first? Did she ready and ok it before she left, or possibly leave live ammo in it from an earlier target practice session? What a clusterfrick. If that's the case, there's like a dozen possible failures just on the day of the incident and who the frick could ever track it since the production was so chaotic from day 1.
The armorer already had a pretty poor track record before this. In past production she got caught loading a gun from a pile of bullets in the dirt (lmao like another anon said ITT women and playing with dirt), lots of poor gun maintenance, something about giving a kid a gun without proper orientation, and also I'm pretty sure she has a habit of giving people the business end of a gun as she works on it. Just all around shining example of a nepobaby, didn't seem to learn a damn thing from her old man besides some false sense of entitlement.
Hollywood people are moronic. They know nothing about guns.
Same thing that happened with Brandon Lee, these aren't mistakes or accidents.
>Brandon Lee
He was killed by a blank round but there was a piece of shrapnel in the barrel for some reason. It wasn't a live round that killed him.
It was a squib round, actually. The armorers had tried to make their own dummy rounds by taking the propellant out of some cartridges. Unfortunately, they did not also remove the primers, so the bullets could still get pushed into the barrel.
Providence databanks leaked - this evidence will exonerate her.
https://vocaroo.com/1kvo22UbNJbR
Why would don't they make fake guns for movies instead of just using normal guns with fake rounds?
They could've, John Wick used fake guns. They just didnt care about safety and everything that could've went wrong went wrong
because frick you. Squibs look better on screen. Alec just sent action movies back about 20 years. All 3 matrix films had endless squibs and prop guns 0 deaths. John wayne never killed anyone on set.
>Your honor, my client, Mr. Baldwin, already bought the injured party, not one, but 3 grand slams from Dennys!
>meanwhile the AD that was as responsible as these two pled guilty to a lesser charge and got zero prison time and is now chilling somewhere with zero stress
Some morons just don't know when to accept the shitty hand they got dealt and play the game.
Will the west finally come back around now that there are accidents and malfunctions in all fields exclusively due to Black folk and women
>poltards trying to excuse a woman fricking up at her job to own a leftist actor
>A FRICKING HOLE
now I've seen it all. b***h was moronic and got another b***h killed, baldwin still gets charged with manslaughter because he literally did the act, but she gave an actor a loaded weapon which he never should have had, she literally had one job and failed at it. why would anyone defend her, does she have an onlyfans or something?
it's obvious from her face that she'd screw up folding pants at old navy, i'd never give her guns lol.
Yeah she looks like a typical millennial on SSRIs and birth control
>Gutierrez-Reed
hyphenated last names should be banned
Uh oh daddy's connections won't save her this time.
>have job where you can check guns if they're loaded like a cool operator
>frick it up
I mean come on now. We have to be in the matrix. Poor Alec whos going to feed his 10 kids while hes away in prison.
>Letting a woman be in charge of weapons
Everyone involved in this decision should be arrested
She took live ammo to the set so she could let production crew shoot the guns at lunch. It’s already been established.
>Gutierrez-Reed faces up to three years behind bars if convicted.
>kill someone
>try to cover it up
>don't take a plea deal
>three years max
A guy in the same position would be facing a decade+.
>Sneak her friends on set over the weekend
>Load the guns with real ammo they brought on set, shoot up Cacti
>Return the guns, forget to unload one for some reason
>Day of the shooting, Hannah was high
>Picks up the loaded revolver, never checks it, hands it a producer, who also doesn't check it
>Producer loudly says the gun is empty
>Alec takes the gun without checking it
>Aims it at women, pulls trigger, killing her and injuring another
>Alec tells everyone he never aimed at her or pulled the trigger
>Hannah flees the set, asks her co-workers to hold onto her drugs for her, goes back to the scene, picks up the gun used in the shooting, and replaces it with another gun (she somehow thought this would help her case)
Everyone involved was fricking stupid
When asked about the accident and what he could have done differently Alec responded he wished he had gotten a side of sausage with his grand slam.
it was literally all her fault
They're actually going to fricking punish her more than the man who pointed a gun at somebody and pulled the trigger
Her name was really Galina, but Ukrainians have to spell everything wrong so she calls herself Halyna.