I have nothing against gay people but when every single show has to have one, that fricking makes no sense. Most people don't have gay friends because they're fricking rare. The problem is that NETFLIX creators surround themselves with gay people all day and they think that gay people are common like black people
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I never had a israeli friend
I had israeli gf back in 2006. She was as blend and boring as lass can get. It's a shame because was very cute.
>as blend and boring as lass can get
I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this anon, but that's 90% of women...
Were teens openly gay back in 80s American small towns?
Now they’re making Will gay too? Ffs
I don't watch the show but some guy at work said Will is gay and that "some teenager came out of the closet". I was okay with the show being a metaphor for being gay or for being molested or whatever, but making kids or teens openly gay sounds anachronistic to me.
Neither of them are secretly gay. Only Steve knows Robin is gay, and she only told him because he tried asking her out. Will is most likely gay, unless the Duffers pull off an amazing ruse cruise, and his brother and mother seem to know, but are generally supportive because some people love their family members unconditionally.
>some people love their family members unconditionally.
If only my parents were like that. It sounds comfy.
Neither of them are openly* gay. Damn it.
I don't think or at least I hope they don't make Will gay. He's just a normal kid who's afraid of growing up and losing his friends. That would be much more interesting than making him gay.
It's wonky too because the actor is 3-4 years older than the character.
Will is only 14 in season 4. It's not at all unusual for a boy that age to be awkward around girls, especially a quiet nerd with PTSD. I know I shied away from girls who showed interest in me at that age just because I didn't know what to do.
True, also implying he’s in love with mike would be even lazier writing.
It's pretty obvious, he was eyefricking Mike the whole season. He's a little queer gaygboi
>eyefricking Mike makes you gay
Oh yeah, of course, haha, that’s only something gay people do I guess haha
>he was eyefricking Mike
So is most of this board, considering all the homosexual threads you make about him. I think that's what's really bothering you.
Yes, there were gay people in the 80s, even in smaller towns. By the end of high school you pretty much knew who was gay… the guys I mean. They were mainly in choir and theater. I didn’t really hang with those folks so I didn’t know them too well. They didn’t bother me so I didn’t bother them.
It was really more in college when people came out, to be honest. I’m not sure that sexuality is completely decided until you are really on your own.
So 1.4% of the population is homosexual and you think that's justification for them to always be in a group of friends in mainstream shows? FRICK OFF
Why do you care so much? Being annoyed because a show has a gay character is low IQ.
Thanks. I get the feeling that my coworker was just exaggerating it then because he's a bigot that likes to complain about gays.
I told you, I don't care that they're gay. My problem is over representation. Look at Umbrella Academy. 6 main characters, 1 is trans and 1 is gay. That's unrealistic.
It's improbable but not unrealistic, but 99% of shows feature situations and events that are extremely improbable.
It depends on the group. It makes sense that a group accepting of gay people is more likely to accept someone who is trans. Black people are only 13% of the population but obviously a show about a group of black friends is going to have them disproportionately be main members of the cast.
Shows casts don't need to be multisectional representations.
It’s realistic for Umbrella Academy because all the kids were deeply traumatized freaks of nature.
Also like in 1 in 5 zoomers identify as some form of queer.
>Also like in 1 in 5 zoomers identify as some form of queer.
Which proves you can make people feel a certain way with social conditioning at a young age. The power of propaganda!
I gotta be honest, I didn’t watch season 3 because season 2 sucked. The father is portrayed as evil for not wanting his wife to leave with their kid. And they kill him.
But if it bothers you, why would you watch it?
Klaus is not gay. He's a hedonist coomer who will frick anything.
So now you frickers complain about representation? Fooken 'ell
He is exaggerating. Neither of them are openly gay. Robin's subplot in the latest season is about her having a crush on a girl, but being too scared to ask her out because of the potential fallout; and Will's subplot is seemingly about his struggle coming out to his best friend.
You have your 500 kid school, with 1.4% gays, 12% nigs, 10% hispanics yeah, but it's not like chess club, the football team, the theater kids, the burnouts all have an exact split reflecting the school's demography.
The gaygiest, weirdest kids are going to find one another and hang out.
I’m saying when I was in school (and I am very close to the age these kids were at the time of the show), I knew who the gay kids were. It wasn’t talked about openly. But then again, we minded our own business a lot more than kids now.
Duffers have said the show is about outcasts and these kids are outcasts. Because they felt different, I’m certain gay people would gravitate toward outcast groups of friends.
Do you think that justifies the over representation of Netflix. Umbrella Academy for instance has 6 main actors and 1 is gay and 1 is trans. I don't like when they force that shit.
Don’t let it bother you so much, there’s more to life than tv shows. You’re not going to stop gay people being in tv shows. Get a new hobby or something, channel that energy into something positive.
This is legitimate critique. Ive been to several VERY small towns in the US with my black friend and no joke, especially the kids you can tell have never seen a black person before. Outside of urban USA, queer and non white people are rare indeed.
People move to places where people look like them and share culture norms. This isn’t racist or homophobic, it’s just a human truth. Self-segregation has always happened and it always will. But getting out to meet new people with different ideas is important to some folks, so they are more likely to go against that rule.
She's not openly gay. Only Steve knows because he's her best friend.
All women are bi, the only women that are lesbos are the ones that were brutally raped, and even then not all women that are raped turn gay most often than not they only develop bpd.
Actual "gay" is only that exclusively happens in men.
Not only where they gay, but everyone they had a crush on were guaranteed to be gay too
THey are filtered out for being dorky morons- of course the homosexuals of the school would be into homosexual shit like D&D.
Why did they change everyone's personality is s4? Did they think no one would notice?
That's what happens with teenagers irl though.
If you want to change people you have to show through some kind of plot progression. Some time skip where every single character has a different personality is completely moronic you should know that.
Black people are not common, OP.
forced inclusivity is probably the main reason I've turned against LGBTQ.
get married do your gay shit and have fun, leave me out of it.
now it's forced into everything and it's disgusting. I don't care about a show like Euphoria existing, but when every show has to be gay it's way too much.
What about exclusively watching shows made before the mid 2010s? I don't watch any new shows but in my case it's because I hate the cinematography. For example I hate how everything is so dark and grey or orange nowadays, and I know it's because they just want to save money that way. Pic related, I'm sick of this.
why should I have to? it isn't like the gay population is the majority, even LGBTQ allies are dwarfed by the people like me who don't care but just don't want it constantly in my face. then you have the fundies who can't tolerate the idea of it.
more moderate people are being pushed that way because it's gone completely overboard and watching reruns isn't a great solution.
blame network execs for the shit, it's not like the average gay person has much to say about it
What would an acceptable level of lgbt representation be to you?
I have a gay cousin and a gay friend. It’s misery. I say racist and homophobic shit all the time and I’ve been so very close to slipping in front of them.
Why do you need to be racist and homophobic, anon? Why do you need to insult demographics of which some people are very nice and kind?
I insult everyone. They’re aren’t genuine insults it’s just banter but you have to be careful with gays because they might take it too heart. The only people I openly insult with a deep hatred are trannies and super flamboyant child molester gays because I hate their personalities.
I can't insult trannies as a whole because I've met 2 trannies, maybe 3, that seemed to genuinely care about me when I was going through some shit.
The good news is that as people get older they generally stop the “victim Olympics”. It doesn’t add anything to your life and I believe that wise people recognize this.
But if you are young… you will get burned.
If netflix didn't put homos in all their shows you wouldn't be mad enough to make this thread and I wouldn't remember that I have a netflix account.
They do this because it is extremely effective at driving engagement, its the modern equivalent of breasts in slasher movies.
Black people aren't even common.
I also like to get angry about things that in literally no way affect me.
>they think that gay people are common like black people
They kind of are, though. If you don't know any gay people you probably just don't know that many people.
>less than 2% of the population is just as common as 14% of the population
Are you moronic?
Except that black people tend to mostly live in certain areas. Gay people are everywhere.
No, the real problem is that you're a closet homosexual and any mention of gay people triggers your anxiety. Also there's nothing wrong with throwing a bone to that part of the audience every now and then.
>every now and then
>literally every single show/movie is "every now and then"
They should be represented fairly, as in, ~2% of every show. So in a show with 10 cast members, that means no gay people, because ~2% would not equal a full person. But no, they're shoehorned into everything.
>didn't have a single israelite, homosexual, or Black person in my graduating class
Why people called Eddie gay exactly?
It's not about actual percentages it's about representation, which means every show is going to try to appeal to as many people as people. Usually this means a straight male or female lead, a gay sidekick, and one or two racial minorities. Sometimes they mix it up a bit.
Either way, bingo. Everyone and anyone watching that show/movie can find someone to represent them which rakes in the $$$. In truth it only turns away a very small minority of people so long as they're entertained.
There used to be a saying, "you can't please everyone." Appealing to some communities will lose the appeal of other communities.
Wow this screams "I'm white and can't get laid".
I don't mind cute lesbian teens though, I still feel like I can frick the gay out of them, what I hate in my kinos are homosexuals.
Outside cities, black people really aren’t that common
why does someone's sexuality trigger you?
because you're a chud
>The problem is that NETFLIX creators surround themselves with gay people all day and they think that gay people are common like black people
True.
So now they have a gay, a black and an autist. Place your bets for trans char next season, I was half banking on them leaving the ranga alive just so they could have a blind disabled one included just to cover all bases. I don't care about inclusiveness or "representation" in media if it fits the story but when it's so obviously pandering or put in for the sake of being there, it's off putting and feels like it's only there to appease people and tick boxes.