Netflix released the first episode of the next season of Sonic Prime on their Youtube channel
?si=xHxSH2roexNQUoc-
 |
 Ape Out Shirt $21.68 |
|
Netflix released the first episode of the next season of Sonic Prime on their Youtube channel
Netflix released the first episode of the next season of Sonic Prime on their Youtube channel
?si=xHxSH2roexNQUoc-
|
Ape Out Shirt $21.68 |
|
Nice. Nine straight up kills Shadow at the end of the episode.
Did Shadow actually die? I've reexamined the trailer and I think all the scenes with Shadow we've already seen, so it's quite possible.
Look if you were a teenage loner loser with no friends and some guy showed up and started giving you hope and trusting you and calling you his best friend, wouldn't you fall for him?
Nobody's allowed to die in Sonic these days, not even a fakeout.
There's a scene where he's with the rest of the Sonic army fighting Nine though he's oddly missing from other shots where they're all together.
Good catch
>Nine straight up kills Shadow at the end of the episode.
How long before some Chaos Control cope out?
He'll just climb back up his hole like that soldier from WITCH season 2.
Why is he evil again?
Bullied by 2 furries and then also never had a chance to recover because Eggman already invaded his world and turned it into a dystopia.
So he never had good memories to come back to. He's something like a Naruto and Sasuke's backstory in both. (if Naruto & Sasuke weren't priviliged enough to live in Konoha and instead lived in a shit village like Nagato did) maybe then Narutard & Sasukegay, especially Sasgay would feel more hopeful and GRATEFUL for those FRICKING APPLES Sakura gave you, saskgay. But for Saskgay nothing matters except killing Itachi. Sasgay is a really shit character when we have Kakashi who doesn't b***h so much and Obito who genuinely believes in something and has hope for a better tomorrow. Sasgay has no hope for a better tomorrow, he's just an angsty teen without a purpose in life besides kill Itachi, he's literally a nolifer.
Nine has a massive boner for Sonic because he gave him hope for a better tomorrow. That's realistically how a pessimist works.
A true nihilist like Eggman thrives off dark humour and goth stuff.
Eggman isn't a nihilist.
he's a feminist
Actual non-meme answer is that Nine was helping Sonic because he thought they could make their idea reality together and Sonic was too moronic to realize that Nine didn't want to be absorbed back into the amalgam of Tails that probably won't even remember anything.
I don't think Nine even realizes that he's a piece of Tails.
Because he's going full linkn park.
?t=64
He's not. He doesn't want to die. Nine implied that if Green Hill was restored, he, everyone and all the other shatter space created by the shards would cease to exist so instead of restoring Sonic's world, he wanted to make his own. But basically, he just doesn't want to die.
Got trolled and asked Shadow for advice
It's funny how Shadow is in character here due to sonic being a complete moron
I found it very satisfying when Sonic got a taste of his own medicine from Deadpool Metal Sonic.
>Oh my god do you ever shut up
>Deadpool Sonic: Lol Nope
Prime Sonic is zoomer Sonic, Chaos Sonic is alphoomer Sonic. It was hard to figure out who to root for in that episode.
One thing that Prime has going for it, at least, is that it has the best Sonic and Shadow interactions.
Sonic 3 will have them too hopefully. Anything is better than IDW.
I love and hate how Archie Sonic and Prime has the best written Shadow moments besides SA2 and then we have vegeta/edgy the hedgy in everything else
Prime might be decent if somebody takes it and compiles it like how the first 2 minutes of this video just did because the story is incredibly lacking and filled with filler. We really don't need the jungle and pirate world. New Yolk is the one that carries the main or rather the only story. The jungle and pirate world offer no additional stories to be told. They're only there to give us another flavor of evil Amy and another idiot but happy Knuckles that goes back to his treasure hunting roots(while still being an idiot and this time a nutcase)
I don't hate it, but the middle section of the show is incredibly weak compared to the season premieres and finales. That's where the real meat of the story and characters are, and the rest is just there to fill the Netflix quota. These would almost be better as hour-long specials.
Many have done fan edits like this for stuff like Star Wars shows, but I don't see it being done for cartoons.
Sonic Prime would be good if sonic wasn't so incredibly stupid. I know it's a baby show but shit man he's so fricking stupid it's obnoxious
Sonic X Sonic was also stupid and an butthole, but he doesn't show it as much through dialogue.
Sonic Prime is basically live action Sonic. He feels like Randy Cunningham.
Sonic was always an idiot,
How come this is the go-to phrase every time a character is assassinated?
>"X was always ___"
It would be nice if Sonic stopped being a dumb founded idiot about everything. At least stop being repetitious about everything:
>Can't figure out the ghost green hill versions are just holograms
>Face plants at least 4 times this episode
>Out loud asks why Nines is doing this over 4 times.
They don't have to make Sonic so pathetic to have the same story, really.
>Out loud asks why Nines is doing this over 4 times
They keep avoiding Nine saying his motive in any clear way. He only says it's impossible to restore Green Hill so Sonic keeps saying "we can restore Green Hill together..." again and again
Most people have guessed Nine will probably be erased if he brings back Green Hill, but he never says this because the probably want to reveal it in the last ep as a "shock" twist. Which is shit.
yeah it makes the whole thing look so moronic if the conflict only happens because neither party is allowed to speak like non-morons, because heaven forbid Sonic be culpable for something deliberate it all has to be a big innocent misunderstanding.
>Let's restore Green Hill
>But that would erase me?
>Oh. Ok let's think of a different way to do it.
And suddenly the series is fixed. I really hope Nine did this because he just wanted the power, not anything else. That at least isn't contrived as frick
He explicitly said that he want to stabilize Shatterspaces, and no one contradicted him, not Shadow, and not Nine.
>>Can't figure out the ghost green hill versions are just holograms
Idk bro, I think I'd come to that conclusion then ignore it out of denial. They would be my best friends and knowing that I caused their deaths would drive me insane
Wait till Sonic kills everyone else by restoring the prism shards "the wrong way." Nine implies you can't just plug them together and need to know what you're doing.
Nah he won't because by then he will have learned his lesson to not act too rashly in important situations.
Love this frame
Put a scarf on him an I could easily mistake this as a screenshot from Boom
go back to Cinemaphile sonicbab.
blud, Sonic has been Cinemaphile since day 1
19:33
>What, Shadow thinks he can take Sonic away from me? Not a chance.
This is the problem with this kind of writing, it's just mediocre and teasing, like Naruto & Witch.
The writer is too dumb to do anything smarter or creative with it.
Just like at 7:40 where Sonic just stares and does nothing after saying he'll do something. Anticipation, teasing, promising and not delivering. Really really lackluster.
>>What, Shadow thinks he can take Sonic away from me? Not a chance.
They're really teasing that Sonic x Tails shipping HARD with these throw-away lines.
This is the gayest line of the show so far
Not as gay as Sonic calling Sails a "beauty"
it's British and Australian slang, e.g. "you little beauty." It just means "you're great!" or "this is great!"
it fits in the pirate world becuae a lot of pirates were British and Aussies were convicts, so we took their slang.
They know, anon. They're being obtuse on purpose just to push their gay ship.
that's gay.
That's still out of pocket
I thought pirates were from ireland and sweden?
Why is this show about a sonadow/sontails love triangle?
Because it's Netflix?
Because Amy isn't even inside the triangle lololol.
>sonadow
You don't know, do you?
Know what?
You don't know that the hedgehog can never be buggered at all.
What because he's the UL?
The spines on his back are too sharp for a man,
They'll give you a pain in the worst place they can!
The result I think you'll find will appall:
The hedgehog can never be buggered at all!
Echidnas can handle hedgehog spines
Imagine where he could put all those tendrils
I will now watch your show.
Hate Sonails stuff but Ian Flynn seething in a corner somewhere over this is a funny image in my head
Never forget how Sonic 2 on the Genesis ended with Sonic and Tails flying off into the sunset to the tune of a love song.
I know I would get like this if I were him, it's one of the reasons I avoid hanging out with people too much if I happen to be fond of them.
Kek but based
To be fair though just based on the trailer I'm pretty sure he needs Sonic for the energy he produces. Not as gay with context.
Damn, is this a Naoto Ohshima approved show?
Probably
He's just liking sonic art.
All of it.
I like Nine when he's showing more than 1 emotion unlike Shadow/Sasgay, like at 18:20 , almost feels like a sociopath.
>almost feels like a sociopath.
He is
>18:47 looks at Sonic almost like he's lusting over him and not just his shiny boots and gloves.
18:49
>Shadow looks at Sonic, with a surprised face rather than having just a suspicion
18:51
>Nine looks at Shadow. Nine's pupils ALMOST contract, showing he's ready to kill Shadow for Sonic
>Shadow gives a bigger surprised face after he already did a surprised face , this expression not clearly showing that Shadow is scared because Tails is ready to kill him because the context/motivation never states Nine has a beef with Shadow and wants him dead, so Shadow's expression makes no sense for the viewer. Shadow just gives another generic determined angry scowl expression instead of something more unique.
>The expressions are generic as frick and cannot really convey what's going on without me putting my IQ to work and filling up headcanons, who knows what the storyboard artist was even thinking when drawing those expressions.
But the imbeciles of course instead of lingering on the expressions to communicate what's going on and letting Tails' pupil fully contract on Shadow and giving that old spaghetti western stare is cut short, not even short, just completely skipped/rushed.
They hired Phillipines animators didn't they?
Nine so far just like Viren from Dragon Prince feels a lot more interesting than whatever funny feelgood life lessons shenanigans Sonic was up to in the jungle world and pirate world.
Evil Amy and Tails so far are the only memorable things. Knuckles got the short end of the stick and Rouge didn't even get a stick to pull. They completely mauled her personality and replaced it with literally nothing. ALSO WHAT THE FRICK is up with Big the Cat in this show? Is this like Derpy Hooves? Big is the lucky charm for Sega if they feel like Sonic needs better sale?
>3:18
>Sonic, the fool. This could have been everything he ever wanted.
Ookay that sounds like a woman.
His smile and optimism: RESTORED
He deserved better.
This has endscene hero saves the world vibes all over.
?t=576
I can't believe they're going for Nine Tails as a villain for more than one episode. Of course he will be redeemed but let's see how long it will last.
I'm surprised they appear to be making a version of Tails who's more dangerous than Eggman. I've seen that premise in plenty of fanworks before, but I didn't expect them to do an official take on it.
>3-minute recap for a Netflix series
I was going to complain that it's too long of a recap and takes away time for the episode, but the pacing actually went well.
Is this the last season? It comes out next week, right?
This is originally how I envisioned Tails in Sonic 2. Cute girlfriend with butthole Fred Flinstone Homer Simpson psychopath that doesn't give 2 shits about her and then she eventually gets tired of his laziness and indiferrence and goes full sociopath yandere and betrays Sonic to chase her own dreams. Tails was always kind of a dick when he always stole my rings and because of the sparring match/pvp he always felt a little too much like a rival.
>grows into a giant dragon and eats him alive AND THEN spits him out.
Is Tails growing into a giant kitsune and eating the hedgehog the end game?
God I hope so. That'd be hot.
Sonic should have writing like Doctor Who.
That's gay.
You're gay.
Only if it's written like the 2000s era
And the ring is his sonic screwdriver.
And his Tardis is the checkpoint turret from Sonic 2 that sends him to the special zone. just the special zone a tiny ring that grows into a portal and he goes in and out of dimensions
I don't like that he's wearing clothes. Makes regular Tails look naked. Either commit to cartoon logic or have all mobians were clothes.
>There is now a caveman version of Rouge
>No porn. None. Absolute zero
That's Sonic Prime in a nutshell, minimum effort and disappointing as frick.
In that world, Knuckles is an insane conspiracy theorist, Tails is feral, Big is constantly starving, Amy's an ecoterrorist and Rouge is... the only normal one.
>not barefoot or showing their bare feet
There's at least one problem, even with Sega's homosexual blob feet bullshit; also, nerfed breasts.
If you want the Felix face you get the Felix feet
>caveman wearing a tshirt
gotta cover up them shoulders, astaghfirullah
We live in a timeline where the Qanon Shaman has more porn than Official Caveman Rouge.
I don't even wanna ask
It's one Tickle Pic but that's more content than caveman!Rouge.
Angelauxes just did his own version of jungle Rouge in response, just a fat generic bawd.
Goes to show how much Sonic tertiaries care about content of Prime lol
Remember when we saw the concept art of cavegirl amy?
The world looked so bright
So many stinky savage waifus on the horizon
>and then 0 porn/0 interest in the Flinstones world.
I FRICKING HATE SONIC PRIME
You hate Prime or the fans for not doing artwork?
I don’t even think that anon understands what he’s saying.
“Flintstones world” implies there’s some prehistoric society and dinosaurs and an actual setting like Flintstones has
In Sonic Prime it’s just the same 5 characters walking around a featureless empty jungle (The Green Hill set they designed but now with bigger trees)
The especially shitty thing about Prime is that the premise is specifically designed to exclude the presence of alternate Sonics and Shadows. This is what happens when you get obsessed with "brand consistency". Why even fricking bother putting out any products if they're literally not allowed to do anything of substance?
My impression was that the series was supposed to show why the worlds need Sonic, because they all go to shit until he shows up to fix things.
But then they go and do things like Rusty Rose only getting better after meeting Black Rose after everything Sonic tried failed to get through to her. What's the message in that? "Only you can help yourself" or something?
It also got the yurigays running on all cylinders, which is never a good thing.
>the worlds need Sonic, because they all go to shit until he shows up to fix things.
We need a Garfield-esque Sonic Minus Sonic series. Just make a story where this blue piece of shit just doesn't exist, and everything is fricking fine.
>B-but he's the main char-ACK!
I don't care. Fanfic writers get death threats when their self-insert OC exists to shit on the entire rest of the cast. Funny how it's somehow okay when a corporation pulls this shit.
Yeah yeah, we know. When Sonic isn't onscreen, everyone should be asking where he is, and he should also have a time machine.
WELL FRICK
To me, the story is about forcing Sonic to face his flaws as his recklessness causes more problems than answers. All of this is his fault, so it's not that the world doesn't work without him, it's just different reflections of his friends creating worlds.
I don't think the way they've developed the AUs is good enough to sell that premise, but I don't get the feeling that the main point is "Sonic is the best and everyone needs him". Forces is that, not Prime.
>the story is about forcing Sonic to face his flaws as his recklessness causes more problems than answers. All of this is his fault
This right here. And as odd as this sounds, this is honestly a really good instance of Sonic being written. He is a good hearted, but arrogant and reckless hero. Even ego is not something he is immune to. At some point, that ego, especially in his younger years, will get to him. How does he grow from that? Well, we are seeing that now
>the story is about forcing Sonic to face his flaws
Which I could get behind if the show didn't dock 100 IQ points from him and come up with those flaws out of nowhere for this show. It's like those moments in a show or comic where something unbelievably contrived by the story's own standards hapoens and then a character remarks on it as if that makes it ok that it was so poorly written.
>this is honestly a really good instance of Sonic being written
It's not. It's decently enough written for this specific Sonic as his own thing, but the show from its beginning relies on the viewer knowing stuff about Sonic and the show is supposedly "canon" so if this is the Sonic from the games then they did a terrible job of portraying him. The people who complain that Sonic doesn't get called out on his recklessness enough or that he's too pivotal to saving the day kind of miss the point of the character, it's like complaining that Superman doesn't kill enough villains. Sure Sonic is something of a gary stu, but that's something people like about him since in the better stories or when you play as him, he's cool and charming enough to pull it off.
>My impression was that the series was supposed to show why the worlds need Sonic
I think that's what they were going for from the start. Its why New Yoke world is so developed and every character there is a "what if" version that never met Sonic. Along the way, they changed their mind and added pirate world and jungle world for whatever reason.
Rusty only turned because she was abandoned. If that hadn't happened, nothing anyone said would get through to her. In fact even her turning on the eggs felt forced since despite being left behind her programming should have kept her loyal to them.
In the first season, I was under the impression the Chaos Council really cared about Rusty Rose. They got really concerned when Nine hacked her. So them abandoning her felt out of pocket.
Maybe they cared about her as an asset, I don't remember. I would guess they're less focused on her since they were finally achieving something greater than they had dreamed of now that they were getting shards. Plus they made Chaos Sonic in like five minutes so clearly they don't need Rusty all that much anymore.
Don't bother questioning marketing people. They aren't human
>still no Omega
Why do they exclude him
Sonic can barely keep Shadow from killing him and Tails in this. If you throw Omega into the mix then they'd be dead meat.
Budget issue
>just think of all the hundred more stories to be told using the same 8 characters and 4 locations! The possibilities are limitless!
>just think of all the hundred more stories to be told using the same 8 characters and 4 locations! The possibilities are limitless!
Yeah this show would probably be loads better if it was drawn instead of cgi
>>just think of all the hundred more stories to be told using the same 8 characters and 4 locations! The possibilities are limitless!
Oh yeah endless more teasing, hinting at, luring you into a false sense of "are they finally going to do something memorable?" and the end is "I got nothing" , the dialogue feels so unfinished and generic and lacking in proper communication and emotion in Prime, it feels like I'm watching one of those crappy DC movies where everyone is an asocial introvert who can't communicate. Feels like I'm watching Boruto where Boruto is still a spoiled richkid and they tease him and Sasuke's daughter getting it on. At this point Boruto has had more positive interaction with Sasuke than Naruto and Sasuke's own fricking daughter, they might as well call it the Sasuke & Boruto show. Also the time travel episode was lame except for young Sakura thinking adult Sasuke is a creepy perverted eroge reader like Jirayia just like wienerashi.
With the same dogshit writer and director who can't write and direct just 1 PROPER scene.
These guys can't even direct 1 memorable scene of Nine trying to rape Sonic. You'll never get scenes such as these out of Prime's writers:
What Prime did so far is take some ideas from the fandom and then write them worse than the fandom instead of better.
Or rather not worse, but incredibly underwhelming, very boring, very limp wristed. It's the fandom's job to write DULL limp-wristed endings and executions to interesting ideas, not the official creator funded by tens of millions of dollars and "professional writers who writer for a living for the entirety of their lives".
This dogshit of a Youtube webseries is ironically more interesting than Prime, but not necessarily more polished, not in the least bit.
I also hated that they went with the Harley Quinn Amy towards the end instead of doing something more interesting like a power triangle of Tails wanting to frick Amy or wanting to frick Sonic by keeping Amy away from him and then going with the limp-wristed "Sonic is just le shy ... totally not cause he has better options and Amy is an annoying little shit" at least they could saveface with that and say that Tails was lying to further manipulate Amy.
At least the Attack on Titan parody seems more interesting, but still with that same awful execution of "muhh melodrama", that's why I liked Something About Amy's first part, it seemed more looney tunes-ish and down to earth like official material.
>What Prime did so far is take some ideas from the fandom
Anyone else get reminded of evil Tails from "Where was my hero" with Nine's design?
Not complaining. But I wonder where the artist of that fan comic is nowadays, they deleted their online presence some time ago. Wonder how they feel that their story actually inspired some folks at Sega
The Boom animated series was too good for this world.
Sonic fans don't deserve Sonic Booms tv show
>Shadow jobs to Nine's robots in the first episode of the new season
JOBdow is eternal.
On another note what is the point if Big in this show? Even Amy's pet bird has more relevance than him.
> Even Amy's pet bird has more relevance than him.
What do we think of the new design for Metal Sonic?
>6head
I like it. I can see artists make fanart that makes him look even sicker with perspective and coloring.
Will this one make Ian mad too?
He'd have a heart attack if he ever saw a single IDW sonic thread on this board
No I think he's to seeing people saying SONIC COMICS BAD with nothing else except shitposting to back it up
>try to talk about old Sonic show or comic
>brainless morons just tell you that it isn't canon so you should stop talking about it
>these same people hated IDW until it was "confirmed canon"
Those people are so embarrassing.
Wake me when they meet the original Sonic Prime.
Anything to get away from tired old turbine tummy.
That's not even Prime Sonic, 25 years later is an different universe than Prime Archie
How come this show is supposed to be "canon", but Sonic acts like he's never seen a Metal Sonic before?
Because they are hacks
because "canon" is just marketing for yes you need to watch it
Meta era zoomers hear the phrase "is Canon" like jingling moron keys.
Shitty, It's someone's vision though. So I wouldn't call it soulless. I think his silhouette should be closer to Sonic's.
I wouldn't consider it an official metal sonic. Grimm sonic is a better title.
Not as good as Neo Metal Sonic.
>The boring and wasted premise of a Sonic show is boring and wasted its premise
Shocking, who could've guessed? Why did this show have so many people claim it was good? I honestly don't get it
I've seen too much shit cartoons and cringe Sonic content for me to dislike this show just because it's not that great. The start and end of every season are exciting, and while the middle is whatever, I'm not annoyed or angry about anything. Yeah the jungle crew were morons and captain Knuckles is a schizo but I like everyone else okay enough. The way they handle some drama is also vastly preferable to IDW tumblr fanfic slop and awkward game cutscenes because it actually feels like something appropriate for these characters that's not trying too hard.
It's fine and stands out in a sea of garbage that is modern Sonic storytelling.
They don't know what a multiverse is and just think that a multiverse is a character being played by another actor. Nine is the closest to understanding how a multiverse works, but even then it shits the bed.
There are no rules for how a multiverse works you moron, it's a made up concept
Multiverse is a bunch of alternate universes. Take note that generic "dimensions" wouldn't fit "multiverse", so nine Nordic worlds wouldn't count as "Multiverse", nor would Minecraft's Nether/Overworld/End.
In Sonic Prime's case worlds are not infinite, and are just shards of a whole, but they would still fit "alternate universes", because there's a bunch of alternate characters (even if they are just shards of a whole character). They never use "Multiverse" word anyway, they use Shatterverse.
>Multiverse is a bunch of alternate universes.
>but they would still fit "alternate universes"
Ok so you lied when you said
>They don't know what a multiverse is
NTA, but Multiverse is a set of an alternate parallel universes, that had exactly the same history up until certain point even if that history consists only of a smallest possible amount of time right at the beginning of the creation process. Whereas different "dimensions" are parts of the same universe (that also tend to take different roles within in-system interactions rather than all being only alternate stories) that are originally different from each other.
Each dimension is a book, that is a part of a big cycle with multiple plotlines.
Each universe is this cycle.
Multiverse is a set of this cycle's variants - each might have different books, different variation of a specific plotlines, different amount of books, different covers with everything else being exactly the same, different everything, but it still would be a variation of this cycle, even if variant A is about demons dismembering sinners with acid, while variant B is about dolls fighting for the possibility to become real human girl and drinking tea in between.
USUALLY, though, variants of cycle tend to have common archetypes of characters and more or less common stories with variations.
Whereas Minecraft's hell/nether/usual world are considered "dimensions" until proven otherwise by officially creating their origin story as that of parallel universes.
Wall of text is too long, continue in the next post.
>but Multiverse is a set of an alternate parallel universes,
That's just one type of multiverse moron, multiverse just means a set of multiple universes.
It is absolutely possible to have universe with dimensions resembling multiverse (as if, for example, there were normal dimension with Sonic beating Eggman, hell dimension with hell Sonic beating hell Eggman and Heaven dimension with heaven Sonic beating heaven Eggman, but hell and heaven interact with normal world by accepting souls of the dead of the normal world as a part of original design), or have multiverse, where variants might look like dimensions (with variant A being normal world, variant B being post-nuclear fallout with all original inhabitants dead, variant C is a super-high-tech variant with nanomachines catering to every need of its inhabitants, and, for some reason outside of an original design souls of the dead are sent from normal world to fallout or tech "paradise".
But it is original state and design of the system, that counts.
Dimensions is "block alpha, block beta, block delta, where block alpha is supposed to send info into beta, when beta is supposed to send its info to alpha and delta".
Multiverse is "block alpha-1, alpha-2, alpha-3 etc, where blocks can and should exist independently of each other by design, but have/have not possibility to send their info to other blocks, affecting work of other blocks
Thank you i was wondering if anyone else noticed Tails is the only one who’s a different character in each universe, the others are just straight confusing name changes. Slow and dumb and hungry= Big or Hangry?
> no tech = mangey
>not happy = nine
>not morally pure but still happy = Sails
Tails is the only one that really works with cause he’s like the only character this I.P has that’s written based on his surroundings + what we already know and not exclusively on how he’s been written a dozen times before.
Knuckes Rouge and Big = what if you changed this same character’s situation?
>Tails = what if this character loses or never gains one of the fundamental building blocks for who he is?
I mean for goodness sake they weren’t brave enough to take away Amy’s hammer unless she’s a robot and even caveman Rouge is still pretty and likes gems. Why couldn’t she have just been a talkative stronger version of mangey
>people would still be posting them two if there was a moment of them both growling at something - Rouge looks over and shows Mangey to show his teeth more- it would’ve been cute af
I’ve seen more people call it shit then good at this point, so I don’t know who you’re referring to.
>The boring and wasted premise of a Sonic show
>boring
Nah, a fresh take of Sonic exploring the multiverse would've been fine. But the execution is wasted.
>But the execution is wasted.
That's what made the show boring
It didn't need to be a multiverse. It could've simply been a "what if Sonic never existed" series. That was the original idea. All the characters in New Yolk are version of themselves that never met Sonic. Especially Nine. Amy is a robot, Eggman has clones, etc. But they added a bunch of other things like water world and jungle world the show doesn't have enough time to use everything. Should've focused on New Yolk.
>Eggman has clones
Those are not clones
There's no Eggman
>Why did this show have so many people claim it was good?
Really? I thought everyone was making fun of the show being Mickey's Playhouse but Sonic
Only Cinemaphile was making fun of it, everyone else either succumbed to forced positivity or convinced themselves to like it because it isn't complete trash.
On the one hand, I really enjoyed it. Very entertaining episode where you could actually feel that something was happening. The pacing specifically felt A LOT better than in previous episodes, even the fight felt well done instead of just padding like in most of the rest of the show. I was already looking forward to the season, but if the episode is anything to go by, consider me hyped.
On the other hand, Nine is sooo cartoony evil that it looks like they're just going for the easiest "Nine is evil now" route and I'm afraid they'll never properly address that his concerns were absolutely legitimate. It'll be a shame that such an interesting topic will end up abandoned because it was just bait for a surprise villain cliche.
>Nine is sooo cartoony evil
Is he? He's definitely evil but he's not done anything yet that's too despicable. While his machine is destroying shatter-verses, he is also the type who thinks he can fix everything if he does things right, which is ironically what Sonic was also thinking about the past two seasons. I think cartoony evil would be if he captured Shadow and tortured him for fun.
Nine is legit right but can’t be TOO right or Sonic will look all the way bad.
Shadow is going to go lick his wounds in the hole then come back to rape nine and the robots
doubt it. He couldn't even survive against that one Sonic bot, all 5 of them were kicking his ass
zero chance he's dead though, "character falls down hole" is never permanent
Didn't the sonic bot only get him because he was tired from making a huge tornado and fighting the other bots?
The Sonic bot got both of them before the other bots were introduced, that's why it took both of them to fight it. Against the Sonic bot and the others he has no chance
You better put some fricking respect on the ultimate lifeforms name before I chaos control inside your mom again
God, I really don't like how Sonic is written in this show. It feels so off.
He's a childish and idiotic jobber- even more so than in the movies. You could say he's 'wide-eyed and vulnerable.'
Holy hell did Tails Gets Trolled actually became a reality?
Tails gets Trolled was too well drawn to be this shit
>No alternate versions of Sonic
>Sonic isn't allowed to dresses up and only changes shoes
Mandates are killing this show, can't have anything fun.
are mandates why Sonic is now a naive idiot that cannot understand what Shadow and Nine keep trying to hammer into his head about alt universes?
Can we have female Tails?
somehow sonic threads are more miserable than star wars threads
How miserable are Star Wars threads?
endless complaining about most things that came out after 1998
This show would have been so much better without the extra Pirate and cavemen worlds they never really add anything to the story
They added more people getting mad at Sonic if he leaves them for 5 minutes
Anons, describe your dream Sonic show.
Something that feels like the OVA or Post-Genesis Archie
Sonic X in the city, everyone with their own apartment, all SoL happening during the day, all action happening during the night, and WRITTEN GOOD. I want good sexooo romance written properly.
I also want a tournament of power cause those are successful for a reason in most shounens. And I want tournaments involving racing and dodgeball like Rayman and even Galactik Football.
Tails spinoff without Sonic.
Stealth prequel to this, hey everybody it’s the Tails show, stealth sequel to Tails Adventure
>Starts with Tails dodging rockets from ships, “could really use some help right now” robot pet jumps out to help obliterated by metal arm from ship, captured by remnants of Robotisized children of island he lives on
>him metal gearing through ship ramshackling gadgets
>eventually has to crash ship to get out
>crashes into city
>problems 100 b***hes somehow still zero
>builds colourful cast of friends his own team via helping out other orphan kids blown apart by war n shit
>My name...uh...Tails
>gang full of cyborg street kits
>gain notoriety and victories, other people name his gang “That Nine tailed kids crew” “Nine Tail’s Gang” “The Nine Tail gang” or “Nine Tails” through hearsay (get it nein tails) like they’re some kind of monster
>they’re a bunch of manic scary cyberorg psychos who love each other aww
>villain you say? time to be heroes!!
>gang of friends die off one by one halo reach style
>hollow victory
>hate everything
>hate being called Tails
>wouldn’t it be nice to be a god where I can make my own world
And btw, he wouldn’t have a name “Miles Prower” is a joke he makes up on the spot ala Solo for the sake of you need a legal name when you live in a “””governed”” city
Sonic Boom season 3.
This time you let the writers use every Sonic character they want.
I don't think it's an issue of letting them be used but that it's too expensive to create more models
Series would start off by introducing typical 'Sonic characters are fighting Robotnik' as a status quo, but this time with cities and humans mixed into the locale, then introduce a 3rd greater antagonist that both sides need to team up against, which starts the plot on episode 1.
There was a series in 2020 called Deca-Dence which really fit the kind of presentation I think it should have
>Race of superpowered chibi species as MCs that don't clash with the artstyle, and they mostly live separate from the regular humans but will interact when they have to (like Shadow and GUN, or Rouge and Topaz)
>Lots and lots and lots of different locations that are well explored
>Series doesn't focus much on different character arcs, since most Sonic characters are pretty basic, but as they progress through the plot you can see their personalities on display
That's called Sonic X season 3.
Oh wait you meant a good show. HAHAHAH.
Good show doesn't mean slap in out of style anthros and sitcom jokes in it, homosexual.
>out of style anthros and sitcom jokes
i have no idea which Sonic thing you're referring to with this
I don't believe you
Some "out of style" designs help with variety though, a lot of IDW designs and Prime background models suffer from being built off the generic Sonic character template.
True, but they can do a but more better.
Sonic Boom also had not!Nefarious and he was fricking trash. Same was Underground's villain, who was another out of place furry.
*bit
I actually liked the duo's designs, it was like a cooler version of Crash style villains imo.
Sonic has to stop an all out war between Eggman and other rivaling antagonists
Puss in Boots Last Wish type show but with Shadow, that’s addressing how annoyingly edgy and aggressive he’s been the past decade, with other characters calling him out and force him to change.
>with other characters calling him out and force him to change
This sounds hilarious. Seconding.
Adaptation of tails gets Trolled with an absurdly high animation budget
An alternate timeline story. Something with Archie characters and elements. A reboot of those stories, if you will. Ian can be a writer but be on a leash... being held by someone else that is more competent than him.
Want the story to be serious but not overly edgy, whilst giving room for the characters to be themselves and develop.
Sally grows tired of her father's BS and the piss pool.
Tails grows up, advances his technology, begins to rival Robotnik.
Sonic fricks things up with his arrogance, tries to make things right. Tries to find his place on the world. Is he a freak with too much power or truly a positive force for good. Was bullied as a kid when he got his powers initially.
Shadow has a lot of baggage but learns to respect and bond with others. Works with Rouge and Omega as friends. Starts to form a bond with Amy some time after she matures and stops bothering Sonic.
Robotnik is smarter than his counter-part in Archie, but is also tied down by his arrogance and his lust to beat Sonic with his mind and ingenuity. Goal is to become God.
Antoine is less of a goofy humor device but still struggles with fear, has some character arcs to get past it. Gets with Bunnie
Bunnie struggles with her purpose and whether or not being a cyborg is who she really is.
Rotor is a pillar of the FF, and is Tails' mentor. Leads a science division. Develops weapons and shit for everyone and teaches Tails everything he knows until Tails surpasses him.
GUN is very aggressive towards Robotnik to the point it will even risk nuclear war.
Infinite has a different motivation for his desire for power other than (IM WEAKKKK), tries to trick Eggman so that he can have full control of the Phantom Ruby. He tries to bring his crew, especially his partner, back from the dead, risking all of reality. Will try to kill anyone who stops him.
I probably got more ideas but there's some out there.
At best you want Ian as your editor. Even with a leash he will do stupid shit like zoom in and focus on some memberberry that only Archie fans will know will be significant way later but will feel meaningless to anyone else since it serves no narrative purpose to whatever the current story is. That's almost a positive to how Archie was written as it went along, it couldn't insist upon itself like that since it didn't know what its future held. What you need is someone who is just passionate about creating fun stories and is looking for work, more or less. Ian was great for what Archie needed in the past but aside from his value as a loremaster, I think it's time to let go of fantasizing what some potential Sonic story written by him could be like. He had no leash whatsoever with Drogune and that wasn't even half as good as reboot Archie, which was already a downgrade from preboot.
>At best you want Ian as your editor.
Honestly, might be for the best.
>Sonic Advance Trilogy/Battle/Rush Duology adaption
>Chronicles is psuedo-ignored, OC seasons made to replace it
>5 seasons long, made by some weeb french studio SEGA Europe hired
series ends with Sonic taking off to fight Eggman's space armada, cue Unleashed....
....then my pitch goes to the garbage
Jojo's bizarre adventure Part 3
>Sonic BOOM of a headache
I wanna turn this off already bro
Guys..
Guys Is this an allegory for fan works?
Think about it
>super sad alt version of the fan favourite wants to combine all of the different universes into his own perfect one to make himself happy
Does he give himself a big penis too?
If he can implant seven fully controllable metal tendrils into himself
>you know that shit runs through his whole body
...well it’s like Timmy Turner...no one says he wishes for it...but I mean you don’t see every wish he makes
>what if Tails has a robo friend plot
>Nine creates his own donutsteel Sonicshadow to replace them,
I don’t give a frick what anyone says I’m right about the allegory thing
it's literally just copypasted Chaos Sonic from before, which is just Metal Sonic with a mouth
>which is just Metal Sonic with a mouth
You mean a more annoying version of Shard
Shard is just Archie Sonic with a paintjob, he was an actual character before Ian shat his shit-spray on him
>he was an actual character before Ian
What the hell are you talking about? Ian practically created Shard as a character. He was just an OVA Metal Sonic reskin before.
YOUUuh fucjjbg guys
>why bother rebuilding characters with different colours to replace the olds ones when
You can rebuild the old ones in different colours
>they finally did the multiverse thing
>didn’t even actually do it, just made more characters cause fricken MORE characdurz
>they did this so they can make a really good show about the fact that there is TOO much fricking sonic content to the point that holy shit it’s like there’s no content at all
>I like sonic cartoons
Which motherfricker?!
>i like sonic games
Which notherfucjer they’re all different
>I like sonic comics
Fusikddbb
>My favourite is this character
Which. Fricking. Era, continuity, writer, media, and which language
Nine says “You’ve been replaced” Tails has always been the fan favourite has always had more character, you can hire a woman to do a little boys voice for decades, Tails appeals to gays, straights, troons and goons...and kids cause he’s cute
>pic related about Sonic
That’s why
It’s time to make a yellow Version of the Sega logo maybe the g has two tails on it
Guys holy shit he needs sonic to die for his perfect world to happen cause he’s already got everyone else and the two surviving before his perfect clean slate can happen
>are the only two other characters the rest of their and our world care about without already being sonic fans
Shadow take your fricking inhibitor rings off, dumb frick!
>sKY BEEEEEMMMUTHERFRICKER
We’re getting sonic serious now boys
>now the script here says Nine has the power to make the world into his dream paradise
>but we’re shit at animating anything so we’re just gonna make like…a dome and…and a pink building. Yeah that’ll do.
To be fair I bet he didn’t get Nine Tails, a metal hand and a tragic backstory in one day either
wtf they're ripping off nu-dragon ball now
>nu-Dragon Ball
His franchise now.
>wants the anime/games to be the anime equivalent to current MCU slop
kek, this franchise is fricked. Soiper is gonna look like a spec of a mess in the coming future.
Is Super even continuing? I thought they were gonna drop it and do some fanfic shit where everybody's a kid (hopefully it gets back to actual martial arts instead of ass-pulling power-ups and punching harder/throwing bigger ki blasts to win fights) as the next animated project.
Oh no, we're still getting more Super slop, just that this guy is just going to churn out more slop so people don't have to wait for the current anime to return. The manga/anime at this rate is gonna look like a typical Dragon Ball spinoff in the future.
That's why we're getting Daima in the first place, just one of their attempt to spread out the franchise but with Toriyama exerting his out of touch bullshit included.
This is basically what they been doing with Dragon Ball Heroes and Jaco but now you have this spinoff and that companion series and this prequel manga and this anime adaptation of said video game, and this spiritual sequel to GT to go with it.
It's gonna be a mess.
I remember being excited for dragon ball to come back when battle of gods was announced
crazy
Eh that was pretty good
Metal is sonic without “Soul”. Nine the good Tails with character traits beyond science needs thumbsup no catchphrase today now sonic to die so his remake can have “Soul”
This whole show is about how edgier Tails should replace Sonic already if I haven’t made my case Autismcaly clear yet
They finally let a sonic character have progression and all they had to do was actually kill the normal tails. They let him progress and develop and have character. He’s not 8 anymore
>pic related
Yeah, that's because he's 9
Is Carlos pic supposed to be attached to this post or not?
>own a streaming service
>release your video on someone else's
Was it a power move?
I'm thinking 2024 is the year of Shadow
>hero in Sonic Prime
>Sonic 3 is about him
>probably a new game will feature him to promote the movie
What's people's predictions on how this show will end? If Sonic gets his friends back, Nine and everyone made by the shards would disappear. Will Sonic get everyone to get his friends back? Will he even know that he killed everyone to get his friends back? That would be interesting trauma for his character. Or are the old characters never coming back?
?si=nMQoA6kfJzTz7EsE Sonic Prime being canon is a lot more impactful than it is. Its actually a movement by SEGA themselves. The ending of Sonic Prime is "important" to the IP. They may impact the games moving forward.
I want Nine to win, I want this Sonic and Shadow (the same damn ones we see every time) to die and Nine to stabilise the multiverse whatever and he gets to build his own version of whatever he wants going across whatever the frick the writers want now to build it
>they could have something there
>they could have the comic versions show up if they wanted
>they can have Nine interact with any piece of Sonic anything
>AND thus finally one piece of sonic media can bridge all of them together and it’s fronted by lets face it everyone’s favourite of the duo
One boy genius legion of doom multiverse hopping kicking ass building a team of everybody cool with him from every universe
>something something power
>ultimate power
>destroys everything
>becomes god at the beginning of the Big Bang
That’s why they call it a “universe”
How does one bring peace and prosperity to a world’s existence built only as a stage for yet more conflict?
That’s why they’re doing the god thing
>if planting bombs not enough
>you become. bomb
Doomsday is not what sonic fought back directly in front of him
>but what he lead directly behind him
>by its hand
They're gonna find a solution that allows the shatterverses to exist while the original universe comes back. It's not gonna affect the time line at all.
Nah, Shatterverse will be gone. But all those mini-universes will become a part of one big universe.
Don't believe SEGA when they say IDW or Prime matters to the games, they're separated continuities. They just say that so fans feel forced to watch them.
Don't think its that simple because based on interviews with show runners and VAs, it suggests saying stuff like that steps on a lot of NDA legal shit.
Are you new or something? Publishers *always* say stuff like that, even if makes no sense.
Which publishers are you refering to tho? These are based on interviews with people who work on the show.
Not if the company makes those legal NDAs. League of Legends also acted like their card game Runterra was 100% canon and now they backpedaled into saying it's only "mostly canon". And the noncanon Netflix show is now canon. They make the rules, they can say whatever they want. Doesn't mean its actually part of a big plan where everything's connected.
Transformers said every version of Unicron in all different media is the same one for a couple years even when that made no sense.
For SEGA, the games influence the comics and the comics never contradict the games. That's their definition of canon. But according to sources, the entirety of Sonic Prime is not what makes it canon. Only the "ending" of the series is what makes it canon to the games.
According to Flyn, Sonic Prime is not treated like the comics. Its a special case because of that detail. The show was in development way before SEGA decided to hire people in charge of Sonic's lore. When the lore division was established, they made changes to Sonic Prime to enforce "something" that suggests its not just to avoid contradicting existing material.
>Only the "ending" of the series is what makes it canon to the games.
Just like my favorite Adventure game, Sonic 06!
Source for this? Because that's interesting. I assumed the ending would just return to status quo and the Shatterverse worlds exist outside of the main Sonic universe. I assume they want to use the concept of AUs for their games now?
They'll preserve the shatterspace characters but leave them ignore going forward.
They're gonna be in the same position as the Cosmo plant is, getting a bunch of japanese social media nods at Sonic Channel.
I would bet at some point either Sonic or Shadow will be punted into Void.
So let me get this straight.
Green Hill was a stable state
Shatterverse was meta-stable
Nine's meddling caused Shatterverse to become unstable
And now there's two choices: let everything shatter into nothingness, or restore the Green Hill.
No. He can stabilize it by killing Sonic.
That's what he thinks. It's pretty clear that he's delusional, he keeps playing God and forcing it, instead of letting it crystallize by itself. At this point he'll end up with sand.
According to Nine, part of the prism energy is in Sonic. Its why he can go through the gates. He needs that back into the combined prism to stabilize it. Based on the synopsis for season 3, Sonic will make a "sacrifice" to conclude the story. There's also a part of the trailer where Shadow was carrying a fading Sonic through the void and voices were saying "hurry." Its possible in the end, Nine might just win and ends up rebooting the whole Sonic universe into something new.
It's pretty clear that his dreams of grandeur are doomed, though.
>edgy tails
sick
so your tails
yeah?
Sephiroth is who Trunks/Silver wanted to appear as, but then Toriyama went with the moronic "Oohh he's actually a nice naive good guy ... despite in his first appearance appearing like some cold-blooded serious Terminator" people tend to forget the serious Terminator aspect of Trunks when he keeps jobbing like a moron and the only androids and Cell he defeats are the weak versions in his alternate universe.
is this shit worth my time I watched the first 3 episodes of the first season, thought it was mid and dropped it.
It's not. It's legitimately terrible.
Action scenes are dragging on forever. Ready to yawn while Sonic defeats billionth robot, which keep coming in a never-ending rush. Plot scenes are not boring, though.
It’s better than the recent comics and the games. The bar has been lowered to a point where it’s one of the best recent Sonic content outside of the movies.
This guy is right.
And this is coming from someone who likes the show enough to keep watching
This is the best description for this show: Mid.
I like what it has done with Sonic and Shadow, Nine is cool. But other than that?
A multiverse series with the least amount of creativity EVER.
They chose the safest possible route with this show and its very boring.
Only interesting alt world was Robotropol- I mean New Yolk City.
Well as a Sonic fans you can't be picky
If Surge and Kit's whole introduction was pretty much the Android Saga, would giving them their equivalent to Cell help their reputations as characters, or have they jobbed to hard to really salvage?
Mephiles/Solaris was kinda like Perfect Cell in his quest to become perfect and wipe out everything.
yeah if only he vored them too. preferably barefoot.
Too bad Ian confirmed he wont be making a cell character. Imagine all the fanart and memes we'd get if surge got vored.
I hate the android saga but even then those three are so much better than the schizo duo
Chaos Sonic and pre-redemption Shard are the same character. Metal Sonic with a motor mouth.
Is Chaos the Majin Buu of Sonic?
Surface level, Chaos is supposed to be like Cell, only with emeralds instead of Androids.
Incel fox
I don't think Sonic should be Fast & Furry DBZ
Intentional or not this level of Edgy is teenage angst level of cringe
To be fair I’m having a hard time thinking of a motivation to doomsday beyond
>I’m sad I want a restart and everyone’s gonna have to deal with that
Or
>I’m angry and every one else is going to have to pay for it
Or probably edgiest of all
>I just wanna...maybe I’m Cuhrazy
I know right? Sad punkbutch/emoboy enjoyer noises
The thread got what it deserved
I don’t disagree with you morally I just still wish it didn’t happen
No but he works at McDonalds now
*pizza hut
Man Nine is so hot
Right? Sexy broody boy
Stop it, Sonic
As you grow older, so should your tastes. Being attracted to children either means you're mentally stunted or mentally unhinged.
Nice sóy science bro
>shadow jobs
>ian was a story consultant
>yep that checks out
Shadow saved Sonic from being turned into a living battery and consoled him from his frickup rather than insult him, that's more than he's done under Ian
Posting here since the archie thread died. Someone more skilled at art will have to fill in the blanks.
I'm so used to the comics making Shadow a jobber for no reason, it was kind of a whiplash seeing him being competent and also solo the metal friends
Haven’t watched this show at all but man i bet some kid right now thinks that evil tails is the coolest shit ever despite how fricking lame that looks, i bet that kid also uses it as a profile pic on every site
Are you old enough to remember how fricking hype it was when Robin betrayed the teen titans? For like two episodes but still
Nine doesn't need Sonic. He can be his own Sonic while someone else can be his Tails.
>He can be his own Sonic while someone else can be his Tails.
Easily. He doesn't even need Sonic in the main continuity if he was allowed to grow.
He made... a whole ass, working chaos emerald as a kid in SA2.
Tails was destined to rival or even surpass Robotnik's intellect and technological advancements. But you know, gotta keep the story going forever so he is stuck as a computer nerd with a plane.
>He made... a whole ass, working chaos emerald as a kid in SA2.
SA2 was the beginning of flanderizing Tails' intelligence. Going from a transforming plane to a fricking Emerald is a huge leap.
>But you know, gotta keep the story going forever
I feel like SA2 can take the blame for convincing legions of Sonic fans that the characters were always going to go through some kind of significant developments each game. SA1 makes sense because they're just establishing some the updated versions of the cast and by the end of the game that's pretty much how they will be forever, but 2's story was dynamic enough that it made people think characters would and should keep developing over the course of the franchise, then ends on a banger note to send off the franchise forever. Sonic media may be story driven but that doesn't mean the main cast will always be developing, in fact in most games they don't, yet fans constantly expect them to even though they know it goes against the idea of a forever franchise. It's like that comic where the guy puts a stick in his bike's wheel, you guys do this to yourselves.
>I feel like SA2 can take the blame for convincing legions of Sonic fans that the characters were always going to go through some kind of significant developments each game.
I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact that characters (especially Tails) have remained pretty static ever since SA2.
In almost every thread people complain that the characters never grow in any substantial way as if that betrayed their expectations somehow and like it's something that needs to be said. You might get that the characters will always be relatively static, my post was aimed more at people who don't.
With Tails is not just that his development was frozen, it flat out regressed to be worse compared to what it used to be, they even have him straight up admit things are wildly inconsistent
That's true, but if I went through all the issues of character writing in the games then the comment would go on too long and I'd only be repeating stuff people have talked about for years. Plus that one comment was just a meta wink from Flynn but hopefully it pays off in later games with Tails being less of a cuck.
>That's true, but if I went through all the issues of character writing in the games then the comment would go on too long and I'd only be repeating stuff people have talked about for years.
But that's the thing isn't it? It would one thing if everything was constantly good, as good as it was back then but, knowing the history of the entire franchise? After going through so many, all around, questionable decisions, after so many years? It's no wonder fans don't just yearn hard for the good old days (what's that is up to you) but also for what it could be. They already tasted something great once, of course they would want even more and better next time but instead they sometimes get hit by new lows. Kinda grim ngl
Yeah there is the issue of characters changing just due to corporate decisions and bad writing, as well as just poorly written stories in general, but I wish people didn't attribute it solely to "I miss when the main cast went through actual character development" since that's almost like boiling down half-assed gameplay styles to "Sonic has too many shitty friends." The characters just need to stay more consistent, kind of the opposite of character development, and the stories/dialogue just need to not be bad. As much as I didn't care for Dream Team, it was at least close to what I mean in comparison to Pontaff era. Frontiers has some stuff I liked but overall the characters were constantly too introspective but that was probably just because it had the unenviable job of being the game made to reassure everyone that the past games mattered, mostly through the dialogue and while often being too on the nose about it.
My issue is with as many continuities and universes as they’ve already made we could’ve gotten more beginnings middles and ends and then just start over, taking what works from the previous. most of the sonic stuff has literal no bearing on the rest of it to the point it sometimes feels like there’s no lore or content at all. I mean I honestly think it was 80% porn and memes that allowed Rouge to still be popular enough they could just put her as a team member at the beginning of Prime and the team dynamic is so gosh darn un-concrete it works without needing much question. allows the one not morally pure one to also not be a literal god
I get it and I do agree, endless series after all. I just wish I could buy the “whatever arc” book instead of having to read through 360 issues of lord knows what to see the arc I want to see knowing I’ll probably never see that get transferred to a game or cartoon cause we can’t ever see a perfect megatron of Sonic ideas cause every time they have a new one it stands on its own and affects nothing else except maybe direct sequels
>we can’t ever see a perfect megatron
Dreamwave Armada and Energon
Tails x Cream or Tail x Rouge? Why not both!
>the joke is sex do you get it sex is the joke
Yawn
*Marriage
Prime and IDW have some of the most boring and generic Sonic music ever produced, especially IDW.
Comics have music?
This is the era of multimedia, Anon. Stop being in 20th century already.
Yotsuba does
I'm out. Sonic good guys going evil is some bad fanfic-level shit. I was over that shit when Sonic when to the reality where Amy was an evil nature guardian or some shit and Tails was a feral pet.
Anon. Splitting into "good character" and "evil character" is a classic trope. Nine is a part of Tails that lacks heart.
Lacks heart, as in he doesn't try, ot lacks A heart, as in he's cold, mean, and ruthless? Words matter.
I know. I just mean this "alt-dimension, good guys are evil" shit is played out.
Ok except he's not even evil he's just an antagonist, something that like half of the current heroes have been at some point.
is it even possible to please sonic fans?
1. Make Something Good
2. Fans are pleased
Sonic has still yet to achieve step 1
So you mean that it has never been good?
Also, you're a moron, someone is always going to complain that Sonic isn't the specific version they liked as a kid.
Sonic was never good.
Sonic was ALWAYS good.
Sonic was probably good.
Sonic is LE BAD.
Everything has people who don't like it, get used to it. Soulsborne is the most acclaimed Cinemaphile series in the world and it gets tons of critique even when it makes something great. Fans generally aren't pleased by most Sonic stuff because most Sonic stuff is utter dogshit. You know Sonic Frontiers took the same number of years to make as Elden Ring? I don't even wanna know how long Prime took to make with its 7 total backgrounds, completely empty sets and literally 5 copypasted npcs through the entire show.
Sonic Prime isn't just bad, it's an insult to animation, it's ultimate proof of how lazy this series' creators are
It's pretty average when compared to other CGI Netflix shows.
Bullshit: Puss in Boots and All Hail King Julien shit all OVER this. Even Go Dog Go (season 4 is out) is better. This is mediocre shit trying to get by on the name of the source material...then again, the Sonic franchise is mediocre itself...
It’s pretty SHITE. I shudder to think these are the same guys who did Klaus.
It is but you guys aren't ready for that conversation because the show is made for toddlers and you're all here judging it as adults rather than seeing it for what it is and rightfully ignoring it. No, apparently you all have to force yourselves to watch it even though you know you aren't the target audience, then have the audacity to cry that this show wasn't made for you.
I would judge it on those grounds if this was it's own continuity and not supposedly part of the Sonic game canon.
Your fault for caring about the heavily inconsistent canon in a children's franchise like some demented manchild.
Honestly why even give a shit about canon when so many canon stories are garbage, just enjoy the things that aren't shit and ignore the stuff that doesn't appeal to you.
>BUT MUH CANON
Who the frick cares about what Sega says it's canon? It's the same company that said classic and modern Sonic are two different characters.
I have to wonder if all the gays defending Prime and IDW solely on the basis that they're "canon" would instantly turn on these if Sega one day just said "uh yeah those aren't canon anymore" like they do every now and then on a whim. Like how do you cope with that without admitting you defended mediocre slop for moronic reasons?
I defend Prime exactly because it's not canon
Ah yes the classic dilemma.
>I may as well watch this thing, I’ve been more or less a fan of the IP since I could remember
>oh right...shit I’m an adult now
When Sonic X was on as a kid I got bored I didn’t want character drama
As an adult I could really use something to care about beyond which goon hits harder. Sure as shit ain’t finding that at work
When I was younger I only wanted to see the game adaptations in X but now that I'm older I like the episodic misadventures more than le epic kino moments, especially since X never delivers much on that front until like the last episode of an arc or something.
Maybe people outside the fanbase, but not many things have a fanbase as broken as Sonic, all fault of SEGA for letting the franchise be so inconsistent. Classicgays complained about "Sonic's stupid friends" but those characters are a very big reason why Moderngays like the franchise. It was this way since the beginning when Sonic had 2 cartoon series airing at the same time with completely different directions and neither had much to do with the games.
I think part of the problem is people think each new Sonic thing needs to appeal to them because it's a Sonic product in general. So a modern game comes out and classicgays b***h that it doesn't pander to them, a classic game comes out and moderngays b***h that it doesn't pander to them, something new comes out and everyone complains, so on. On one hand I understand where people are coming from but after decades you think people would have learned their lesson pffhahahah never mind no they wouldn't, they're Sonicgays and they buy some of the most mediocre slop imaginable then defend it years later in the hopes that people forgot why that shit sucked in the first place or that the public's standards lowered enough for it to seem good, constantly thinking that "good for a Sonic game post-06" equals a good game in general. I unironically almost posted "after decades you think people would have learned their lesson" fully believing it until I realized what fanbase I was talking about, Sonicgays are every bit as bad as pokegays no matter what they might try to say in their own defense. In fact they may even be worse because they also hate fan games that are just 'Sonic but not shit' if it doesn't actually star Sonic in it because all they care about is the character and not about actual quality. Frick Sonicgays, they get the mediocre garbage that they deserve, like Sonic Prime.
Which ones bro? The games? Which? The comics which writer era and continuity? The cartoons? Bro which one for which demographic and which decade?
I’m not disagreeing with you but it’s like asking a million people whether or not Country Roads is a good song. You can find a million to say yes but that’s waaay fricking harder than even finding a million people to see you ask let alone a million who Answer
Actually it's more like asking which version of Country Roads is best so you can find the people who answer that the dubstep one is best and harvest every part of their bodies but the brains and ears.
Nine Inch Tails
How could anyone enjoy this shit?
By not making Sonic your entire identity and not taking it so seriously unless you're younger than 12. The better question is why watch hours of something that you clearly hate and isn't meant for you?
Does this happen after the movie? When did Sonic, Tails and Knuckles leave Jame Marsden? Also where are Grounder and Scratch? Where are Sally, Antoine and Rotor? Where are Sonia and Manic? Where are Blaze, Vector, Espio?
I bet "fans" of this slop can't even reply to this. Heh, I'm sorry but I simply can't take seriously such a sloppy show in an otherwise extremely cohesive and perfectly coherent canon, this brainless entertainment sticks out like a sore thumb.
The frick are you on about?
W-Well you see, it's canon, so that means it's good and that you have to watch it! Wait if it's canon how come I'm not enjoying it......AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
Is there anyone currently working on Sonic who gives a shit.
Iizuka, Oshima, the IDW artists, and that's it.
Yeah, that's a big no to all of those.
I believe Ian Flynn and Evan Stanley feel they have the show's best interests at heart, but in execution they're really just hurting things with their bad writing and Stanley's inability to write something without LGBT themes.
They don't give a shit. They wish they were writing Archie, which is why IDW is just bootleg Archie.
Sonic = shit
I know nothing about this cartoon but seeing sprite animation-era style Sonic fight choreography in full 3D just blew my mind. I wonder if they looked at any of that old stuff or if that's just the natural way to expand on the Sonic Battle/Fighters base.
>Hmm it's really haawwwwwd to render new locations, so let's just copy paste Green Hill 5x, but here with bigger tree assets and there we color the trees grey, and we'll call that a multiverse
>Hmm it's really haawwwwwd to model new characters, so let's make all the bad guys just the main cast in skins, and there's only 5 background characters we duplicate everywhere, and there's only 1 basic robot with easily manipulatable duplo-limbs we will use for every episode
>Hmm it's really haawwwwwd to go through the effort of adding details to our scenes, so every world will just be an featureless wasteland for the 5 main characters to wander around in, and every room with be an empty rectangle without furniture, characters will randomly obsess over a tree because we can't render anything except another tree, and will simultaneously allude to locations like a grocery store that do not exist anywhere because we don't know how to make other locations
This image is stupid because it implies that the "expectations" side is any better.