>Never use a low guard. Always hold your sword above your head like you're a fricking Jedi. The Italians call it the "posta di falcone," which is Italian for "please stab me in the guts."
>Never use a low guard.
>Never use a low guard. Always hold your sword above your head like you're a fricking Jedi. The Italians call it the "posta di falcone," which is Italian for "please stab me in the guts."
This whole setup is like 40 minutes of straight kino before the movie even begins
everything before liam and king maskie dies is gold
>try to stab him in the guts
>he carves you in half during "fights first" before you even make contact
were you there?
no?
then shut the frick up
>group of interesting characters
>they all get murdered within the first 30 minutes
>the only one to survive is the least interesting character
Thats what makes it kino
maybe on planet moron
It's exactly the same structure as Gladiator. The first act just sets up the Jerusalem characters same as the germania sequence sets up the gladiator school characters in that movie
I mean, not really, maximus is the only character at the gladiator school from the first act.
>pass on all our knowledge before dying immediately afterward
This is the most uninteresting shit in movies since the person learning is obviously shit but winds up being the most skilled fighter at the end. It's basically live action anime at this point.
he actually was a soldier before or something idk I read that online somewhere
yeah he was attached to an army and fought in a war already. he said he made siege engines and says he went to war "on horse" which i dont know that that means, i guess that he just tagged along but i imagine he knew how to handle a sword plus he forged swords among other stuff
>knight hospitalier is least interesting
and most noble
dare i say angelic?
I liked the black guy who was a Coptic Christian. Nowadays they would just insert blacks randomly into the English/French armies, but back in the day they cared about authenticity and made a realistic role for the black guy.
>pandering is lazy and bad
Only considered a deep insight on Cinemaphile.
Some chuddies would get mad at even a realistic inclusion of black characters in media.
obviously the panderers themselves don't consider it lazy and bad
Those are soulless overseers who have zero creative vision and can only destroy and should not be regarded as people.
Nah. Nowadays that character would exist and you’d post about how Egyptians were actually anglos and false flag pretending to be black saying WE WUZ. Your shit stanks buddy.
Frick off moron. The movie deliberately included scenes showing the local French children being intrigued by the wog's appearance and clearly looking as if they'd never seen one before.
Nothing like that happens now. Modern media demands we believe that Europe was always ''''''diverse'''''.
He's not Egyptian you fricking moron, he's a Coptic Christian, not an ethnic Copt.
I was surprised to learn this movie was written by the same brothers who wrote Predator 1 & 2.
let it go steve
My mind immediately went to Qorin Halfhand, Squire Dalbridge, Ebben and Stonesnake, by far the most elite group in the Nightswatch (all very interesting characters) dying to give Jon a chance to return alive with the crucial information. Jon was a little baby boyscout around green berets in those chapters.
frickin this. Orlando Bloom was so horribly miscast, so many other actors would have made this an absolute success. The director's cut is still kino though.
The biggest problem with this movie was casting Legolas as the lead. He can't act for shit and has negative IQ and charisma stats outside of playing characters that don't talk.
Pirates was right to sideline his role in favour of Johnny Depp, who actually has charisma.
>also when you're in a sword fight always aim for the other guy's sword
I’ll ask my Buhurt friends and get back to you on it.
Thing, Europe is the new Thing, Japan
“Best way to hit man with sharp metal stick” ends up being pretty similar regardless of where you’re doing it.
>thing, ironic is the only acceptable thing
Sincerity being a weakness is one of the most homosexualy things about the current culture.
Pretty cool
Why would you use the same techniques for katana and longsword, the weight is completely different and you can't stab properly with a katana. The best use for a zweihander is disrupting enemy pike formations, bringing one to a duel is dumb as hell
You can find people that still practice this shit and ask them. Probably not in America tho they are usually just larping nerds.
>durrhurrr why would reach and mass be useful in a duel dur a longsword and a zweihander are the same durrhurrrr im a fricking homosexual duuuuur
you are not intelligent
https://youtube.com/shorts/WbjUrLYBVh0?si=wwNjLM5mAm_Qu1EK
This guy says that if you practice either Kendo or HEMA, you are able to pick up either sword and fight with it because we are all constrained by the same biomechanical mumbo jumbo(insert sword fighting jargon here) and have created similar weapons.
That's moronic, no one would wield a cavalry sabre like a longsword
The guy is talking about the Japanese Katana and the European Longsword, not about the 1800s cavalry Sabre from the American Civil War.
>the weight distribution of longswords varies widely and can be similar to the blade-heavy katana
>you can stab with a katana
>zweihander would be perfectly good for duelling
>the pike thing is dubious
2/10
>the weight is completely different
it isn't
>you can't stab properly with a katana
you can
>zweihander
was not even mentioned before you brought it up
>it isn't
>t. no swords
A katana will handle like a katana. A euro longsword will handle however the maker / end user wants it to handle. Every katana I've owned/handled has been blade heavy. Every longsword I've owned/handled has been unique. Some do indeed handle like a katana too.
I.E. pic related: Left most longsword is pommel heavy with a sharply tapered blade and very quick. Point of balance is ~3" from the guard.
Longsword on the right is more blade heavy which slows it down a tish. Point of balance is ~6" from the guard.
Both the katana and ninjato handle nearly the same by having similar length, weight and point of balance.
3 of the 4 European swords in that pic weigh more than both the Japanese longswords too.
>
>Nothing from Tod Cutler
ngmi
there's a lot more to a longsword than the point of balance, means nothing without relation to the other parts.
Source is The Sword - Form and Thought (Deutsches Klingenmuseum Solingen)
I was actually just going to ask for sauce. Thank you.
Just to avoid confusion, there's two books from this Museum and they unfortunately have the exact same title.
This is the one that I'm referencing
https://www.woodenswords.com/product_p/book-vs.sch01.htm
Peter Johnsson also has a number of lectures up on youtube where he talks in detail about sword design
Shut up nerd. I've been swinging swords since I picked up my first stick.
Do you think that zweihanders are the same thing as a long sword?
Yes
any sword you hold with two hands is a zwei hander
I've got one of those
I guess you could say I have a rapier
I've got what you could call a hidden blade
Zwei is the best dueling weapon a feudal man can have. Burger Black folk and katana Black folk are a joke
DRAGON TWISTER!
Nice pic, got more?
But you can see a difference in the pictures, the guy with the longsword is semi crouched and seems be putting his weight into it whereas the nip is standing straight and only using arm strength.
>the joke stance
Face to sword style how'dya like it?
>I'm bleeding to death, making me the victor
>Ox
>Guard of the true window
how can the German language even compete?
Germans are like anime characters and call out their attacks and stances during combat.
many a landsknecht perished while yelling
>"Guard of the true windo-ack!"
ox is the german name tho
the joke was that they chose a shorter name so they can shout their ninjutsu
>Ochs feed and seed
>formerly postra di vera finestra.
I love the frantic style he uses in his films. The scene in musashi when he’s cornered in the house and just swinging like a fricking madman is sword kino. It feels so much more authentic; when you see guys in the if. Hop in the ring, the technique is really more about distance and balance while they action feels frantic and desperate, and you really feel that in all of Kurosawa’s samurai flicks. Like you’re watching real human beings fighting through an intense and immediate fear of death and a huge adrenaline rush
Alber looks fricking moronic. What could you possibly do with that?
lift and stab. The opponent will want to raise the sword and attack from above, away from your sword. Thats slower, and you just lift yours up and thrust
He will just stab you in the face while you're lifting your sword up. You're adding an extraneous movement to a split second exchange.
hes gotta swing first, and the idea is hes got his sword, up above his head
>what if he doesnt
change your guard.
You will get your head caved in if you try this. Even if you do land your thrust people don't die instantly from being stabbed and the downward momentum is still coming
That's literally why it's called The Fool's Guard.
The goal is typically to bait the other person into attacking so you can counter. its basically only used in duels.
>white guys even wearing cargo shorts
how did they know
>falcone
>hawk
Falcon, surely?
For me it's the kasumi no kamae
For me, it's the Chud no Kamae
Ah yes chud no kamae
it means "the chud does not kamae"
the longsword is some shitty prop and not spring steel but pretty neat watching him intuit understanding of the weapon from mechanistic transfer with the katana
>the longsword is some shitty prop
its just a training sword anon. real swords are dangerous unless you are kitted out like a buhurt nerd.
Sucks you have to turn your back to the opponent for the nebenhut
doesn't seem very safe in a fight
What does the art of the sword say about being spotted by English Longbowmen in the field?
Use a shield to protect yourself. Or if you're a horseman, close the gap and ride them down.
what movie
>what movie
I hate these homosexuals who live on Cinemaphile
throw everyone else a bone here
The Kingdom of Heaven
Its Kingdom of Heaven by Ridley Scott. Its not exactly an obscure film.
Its got its problems but its decent kino and they at least attempt to show authentic sword fighting.
DID YOU KNOW: Liam Neeson is actually pulling double duty in this movie, both playing Batman's friend and mentor Whatshisname Whatshisface AND playing the secret archenemy of Batman Ra's Al-Ghul, which explains why he's training Batman wrong on purpose.
Bet you didn't know that.
homosexual.
You know the rules
AND SO DO IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>My German friend is a close student of the law
The Hospitaller was pure kino
Thelewis is so good in everything how does he do it
my dear boy, he's a trained thespian
he can be whoever however
Which is funny because it's true. After all, trial by combat was very much real.
Was he an angel?
>I am outside of God’s grace
>I have not heard that
Yes
He was an Aspect of Saint John
>6’5”
>300lbs of muscle
>rocking a cutoff tee in winter
>tells you you’re absolutely wrong and he’ll murder you if you want to disagree again.
>”why yes, I am a lawyer, how can you tell?”
why do morons on this board say that the Crusaders were portrayed as blood thirsty tards, when they had kino characters like this? especially since the only "virtuous" Muslim in the movie is Saladin. which I mean yeah, it's fricking Saladin.
I can't believe it's actual christcukery since all of my christbros love the movie. and I mean actual Christians (Catholics) not some denomination of protestant larp heretical neo religion .
>t.saracen
>why do morons on this board say that the Crusaders were portrayed as blood thirsty tards, when they had kino characters like this?
Because they all died in half an hour and all that was left was Orlando Gloom, the Hospitaller, the Count of Tiberias, and King Baldwin. All the Templars were evil morons.
Because christians think depicting flaws is bashing their religion, when the real message of the movie is that the Middle East is a shitshow and america should get out of there.
This line has lived in my head for years and I'd always quote it playing mount and blade to myself. Glad to see it getting memed on at last.
I can't see shit because of the blue filter homie
It was winter of course everything was blue
I frick the shit out of 2 handers in oblivion. You don't stand chance without a shield.
Try that in a small dark and darker map
As someone who actually does longsword fighting in armor, this is the worst kind of guard you could position yourself in. The only time you'd do this is if you saw an opportunity for a killing blow to the neck.
>a medieval knight posts on Cinemaphile
i'll bite:
what about when you mostly train for cutting down heathen slave-soldiers with no armor to speak of which are armed with shorter, curved swords?
>tfw you will never massacre peasants with your floppy falchion while wearing a cute full body chain with effay tabard.
hot
how about you use the Post menu my guy?
For me, it's the Italo-Norman kit.
yep boys, doesnt get much more kinö than the duck helm
Posta longa gang for life, because a quarter of the time your opponent will impale himself on your point rushing in.
Sorry, I'm an alber chad.
What if you are fighting in formation, or close to formation? Isn't there a benefit to having nearly vertical downward slashes over any side to side stuff?
>As someone who actually does longsword fighting in armor
I just fricking rewatched this. Pure kino, the whole film. Especially the beginning.
>How would I have dealt with Salahadin?
>I would’ve listened, which is what no-one else did
>trying to make zealous people actually sit down and listen, let alone have dialog
He sat down and listened to a proposal from Richard the Lionheart to have his brother Al-Adil (a famously cool hang) marry Richard’s sister Johanna in a move that would have basically permanently preserved the crusader states and returned Jerusalem to Latin control had it not been for Johanna refusing to marry a Muslim
>women ruin everything
Tired of re-runs bros
>He's a murderer
>So am I
did they really have steroids back then?
yeah they would eat the testicles of slaughtered Saracens
No, but there were still people back then who could kill you or any body builder alive today with a single finger from one hand.
Prove it
I doubt it
We will never get Crusader kino again will we?
use a low guard
Why not?
he was calling him a manlet.
He's 5'11
lol
That's pretty tall, don't fall for memes from incel larpers
low guard is gay
cause then they can falcon chop at you from above
It takes less effort to lower a sword than to raise it would be my guess.
were you there?
no?
then shut the frick up
Feel lucky you're behind a screen homosexual, otherwise I'd ducking erase you from this earth
you have no idea who you are dealing with bucko
Alec "No Reshoots" Baldwin.
Alec "Oneshot" Baldwin
“It makes you look like a total gay and the Muslims will all laugh at you and put their wieners in your butt when they beat you.”
because when they go low, we go high
I like how the Spanish fencers do it, take the sword and point it at your opponent and keep it aimed at him.
>A THREAD OF JESUS CHRIST WHICH BARES HIS HOLY CROSS WILL NOT REACH PAGE 10
>GOD WILLS IT
I hate that anglo moron for all his abominations
Learn your sword fight: https://youtube.com/shorts/WDlZ_SXx5gA
I went to a medieval castle and they had goam encased rods to do swordfighting practice with so did it with me and my bro for shits. After a while i was instinctually adopting this stance, as you could immediately block in any direction whilst also ready to strike down
Guards
>Wechselhut (“Change Guard”)
>From alber, move your sword to one side so it points down and out to the side with the false edge facing the opponent.
>Nebenhut (“Side Guard”)
>From alber, move your sword to one side and rotate the hilt so your blade points down and back with the true edge facing forward.
>Schrankhut (“Crossed Guard”)
>From alber, rotate your hilt so your true edge faces the opponent and the blade points downward.
https://www.jamescolton.com/articles/liechtenauer-longsword/
>he never played bushido blade
Wat movie?
Posta di Falcone it's an Italian flick.
Anon said it in the post DUH
kingdom of heaven
Look at the colour palette, fool. It's clearly from The Grey.
it's Deep Blue, are you blind
but liam wasn't in that
That's not Liam, it's Chris
>film establishes Muslims as being in the right
Based as frick.
>film bends over backwards to paint the muslims as decent guys
>muslims still hate the movie because christians weren't portrayed as evil enough
No muslims gave a shit.
nah you can find them commenting on the movie, seething on various websites
seriously? don't they win Jerusalem in the end and everything? what more could you want?
Two muslims are painted as decent guys and the rest are painted as warmongers that Saladin has to tardwrangle
>try to stab him in the guts
>this happens
>whatever dude, frick it
Literally me
My favorite party is when Legolas brings prosperity to the Arab land by introducing well technology to them. Elves really are in touch with nature.
>wops
>having any expertise in combat
lel
I think a lot of the swordmasters in Medieval Europe were Italian. It is also where a lot of the training manuals were written, due to Italy doing that whole renaissance thing first.
You've never heard of the northern renaissance? Also remember where the printing press was made lmao.
>what is measure
Good luck judging distance idiot
orlando bloom was the worst thing about this movie
i can't stand his fake "deep voice" he always does.
This one is by far the most cool looking sword stance. I have no idea how practical it is, though.
real guard
seems impractical unless im getting hit from a Posta di Falcone/Jodan no Kamae but even then I'd prefer to pull out the Posta Breve/Chudan no Kamae. Don't even get me started on Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara.
Basically a version of Ox guard, widely considered to be the meme guard.
See
The last two guards are meme guards, use it if you wanna die real quick. The mid guard and high guard are generally the most popular.
Ox seems mostly silly yeah but what's wrong with Nebenhut? Seems like you could step back and slice right up between a guy's arms.
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not a meme but probably not very common. i doubt any of the guards and techniques important enough to be committed to manuals over life and death matters had no real utility
It's the opposite version of high guard basically, it has the same drawbacks (i.e. limited guard/parry potential and extremely limited in the range of strike you can follow up), but it doesn't have the same reach, speed and power. You compensate for it a little by being able to conceal the timing of the strike slightly using your body, but honestly nobody would be easily fooled.
Here you go, anon.
>preserves stamina
>holds point at neutral positions that can redirect blows from any angle and set you up for a nice riposte
>good for a quick stab at the eyes
>only drawback is it lacks a variety of attack opportunities on the wielder’s behalf
Though if I remember from my Soul Calibur days playing Mitsurigi the best attack is a quick “jab” at the face that sets you up for a quick step forward and an overhead smack, or after a few of those switching it up with a surprising “uppercut” swing
Armormaxxing is where it really is
It's shit.
Frick me, I'm going to end up buying a cheap sword to late night larp all by my lonesome aren't I?
Thanks guys
Ren fairs are fun. Hema is a "sport". Larping groups exist (and spread aids).
I don't really go outside anymore
I didn't know how badly I wanted to
I'll get one though, this thread just added swords to my list of useless autistic adventures
godspeed basement dweller.
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>narsil larp sword but no boromirs sword
gay much?
Akchually that's Anduril the Flame of the West.
Currently they have:
Anduril
Strider's sword + dagger
Witchking
Glamdring(Sage)
Gurthang
hmu when they stop sucking man pp
i have boromirs sword. always wanted it since i saw the movie and once i was an adult i decided ive had enough and checked Amazon or ebay for one and managed to find one in perfect condition with all the bags and boxes still. had to take it off the wall for a little though so the kids dont impale themselves because even though its a prop sword its still steel and the tip is super pointy and "sharp"
>steel and the tip is super pointy and "sharp"
Feel that. Got one of those Frostmourne replics Blizz was selling when WotLK launched as decor for my old cyber cafe. Damn thing weighed like 50lbs and the point is extremely sharp. Don't want to imagine what would happen if it fell on you.
>he doesnt already own a larp sword
get out
>he doesn't already own several real swords
marathoning this now. how do i tell if its extended edition or not?
also when i first watched it i thought the whole crew died but it was only nonwhites that died (german and idris elba)
Post your swords, homosexuals. I know you have at least one.
>German longsword would do a Scheitelhau (Scalping Hew) from this stance.
>Normally if the enemy were to cut low you would step backwards whilst cutting to their head
>From the high position you should have a longer reach than a lowercut by geometry.
>But pretty sure crusaders were like... WAY before Liechtenauer's work so who knows what the frick they taught back then
My Principe is starting to rust 🙁