A few hours ago, Bill published his first work in 28 years. It's a fable about climate change apparently. Anyone read it?
New Book by Calvin and Hobbes Author Bill Watterson
A few hours ago, Bill published his first work in 28 years. It's a fable about climate change apparently. Anyone read it?
>book by Bill Watterson and John Kascht, 2 artists with amazing pedigrees
>result looks AI generated
fricking weird
I am very suspicious of that armor. It looks photocopied or collaged
looks AI generated
eh... looks like dave mckean and henry selick meets stanley donwood
You don’t know enough about art to be deciding if something is ai or not and this is why I hate that normies talk about art. Like the whole
>lol AI cant draw hands and eyes
Neither can many human artists. Kascht has a very distinct caricature style
>Neither can many human artists
Most professional human artists can do hands and eyes well, just because beginners struggle with it doesn't mean they're rare.
And not every AI image has fricked out eyes and hands anymore. It’s almost like th exact point that I was making is normies can’t see the difference because they don’t see brush sets and minuscule blurring and varied pixeling not seen in hand made digital art. They just think “teehee it looks funky so it’s AI!”
This guy's art reminds me of Road Rash 3d0.
If you think CC is mostly human created, allowing equatorial subsistence farmers to migrate en masse into super high carbon footprint per capita countries is on par with terrorism.
Perhaps the people in orange vests shouldn't bother the average commuter and start smashing the camps in calais, and sinking boats.
Not allowed per se, more that the state of many nations will be such that won't be able to do anything about it.
>sinking boats
I’d suggest getting them out of the water.
I don’t know why scientists think ice melt, which was already displacing the same exact amount of water, is to blame when we add thousands of boats to the water yearly that are the size of ten icebergs.
Icebergs aren’t completely submerged in water. They’re half in, half out. A great amount of ice is above and out of the ocean. That amount of water being added to the ocean will absolutely make a difference.
Not to mention all the land based glaciers that can melt. But, my copy should be arriving soon so I'm gonna dip to avoid spoilers.
90%, anon.
You don’t understand water displacement I see.
The problem isn't icebergs melting, you fricking idiot. The problem is GLACIERS melting.
Where do you think icebergs come from you pseud?
>If you think CC is mostly human created, allowing equatorial subsistence farmers to migrate en masse into super high carbon footprint per capita countries is on par with terrorism.
What makes you say this, anon?
Subsistence farmer in Hati has high birth rate, high death rate. Low carbon footprint per capita. Bring that person to fricking Sweden, reduce their death rate, slow down their birth rate in a generation or two, maybe. Meanwhile, in Hati, a little less population pressure reduces the death rate. It's still going to be a shitty environment. You're still going to continue to have migrants. .
Add on to that exponential growth, all the fossil fricking fuels that the Swedish sudanese need to just not die of fricking cold alone is fricking massive.
Environmentalists back in the 1970s understood the issues of exponential population growth, but most have given it up for political goals in the modern era.
This isn't comic strips. We're going to read it before ordering.
>allowing equatorial subsistence farmers to migrate en masse
>allowing
Don't make it sound like this isn't a purely one sided transaction that only benefits first world elites
>AI generated
No, the chainmail makes sense and doesn't go all over the place, same with the horses armor, background isn't an incomprehensible mess either.
I really hope this isn't made with or assisted with ai because i really dig the grim aesthetic
Some of you guys clearly never had any children's books in the 90's and it shows.
Any scans?
I don't have it yet. I think the few reviews must be from people who own bookstores or something, since it came on sale today.
the art is a weird mix of photos of dolls put next to painted stuff
Hm that’s very interesting
This isn't a Big Two book, dude. Support indie artists.
>climate change parable
eh
>Bill Watterson
Oh shit.
>Art like Dave McKean
That DOES look great. Damn, hope it doesn't suck.
I'm going to be the first gay to say that I like the art style
I'll be the second, then.
It looks fantastic, but I'm a big fan of mixing media like sculpting photography and painting anyway. I think
really hit the nail when mentioning 90s, and I'd throw in late 80s, children's books.
>It's a fable about climate change apparently
Damn, that sucks. I was really looking forward to it before that.
What's the matter?
CC is a literal scam
Oh, so you're one of those fricking "it's not happening to me, so it's not real" idiots then.
you're moronic.
you're probably in denial about capitalism. you probably think that anyone taking advantage of a situation can't be described as capitalist because it hurts your fee fees, so you instead say that the situation doesn't exist
>WHAT IF WE LIE TO PEOPLE FOR THEIR OWN GOOD
You're not making the argument you think you are.
clearly they are, since you would need to be lied to since you don't have the common sense to figure out what's good or bad
>better world
Almost all of those points are outright lies to siphon money and centralize power.
How fricking small is your smooth brain?
>energy independence
just build your own solar panels!
Yes. Otherwise the solutions implemented wouldn't be so wasteful and harming.
CC was about to be fixed in 2 more years in 2020, but global pandemic destroyed that schedule and its now again in the far future.
He wasn't exactly subtle with his opinions about humans mucking up the planet in C&H
Mine just got delivered. I also got the Complete Calvin and Hobbes for my birthday recently, so I'm going to put off reading this until I finish all of Calvin and Hobbes.
I hope this means we get more from him in the future. Unless climate change being as bad as it is was just enough to get him on a soapbox for a bit and then return to solitude.
>Climate change being as bad as it is
So not noticeable at all because that’s not at all how climate change works.
You mean unprecedented weather literally every year now? Home insurers basically abandoning Florida?
None of the weather we have been having is unprecedented. The earth has gone through several major ice ages and several thousand mini ice ages through it's history. Earth is currently emerging from a major ice age. Climate change is natural and would happen whether humans exist or not.
Now microplastics and ocean pollution are terrible and damaging and potentially irreversible -but all of this shit about the O-zone layer, carbon footprints and cow farts causing global temperature rises is moronic fake science designed to fearmonger.
I'm surprised how many people deny that our ice age is ending, like this warming wasn't inevitable. It's not even contested by the scientific community, but for some reason scientifically-illiterate climate activists ignore this massive fact
These changes occurring within the span of human lifetime are absolutely unprecedented.
humans have been around for at least 100 000 years so I'm not sure what your statement is trying to convey given timescales of ice ages are in that ballpark
I believe he said a human lifetime. Not the existence of the species of modern man.
these are nonlinear dynamical systems, similar to neurons fire the terminal events of an ice age can happen rapidly. I'm not sure why people think it'd be a gradual change - these are feedback systems at play (look at the wetland impact). It's like how a neuron fires - some exchange of charge from ion channel pumps that is gradual at first and then explodes due to the nonlinear dynamics of the cell.
wrong
They most certainly are not. Earth had a little ice age where in the late 1600s a mere fifty years saw european temperatures drop an entire 1 to 2 degrees celsius colder causing untold amounts of climate change. What you're seeing right now is an el nino year following a year that saw a 10% increase in water vapor in the atmosphere from volcanic eruptions, nothing is unprecedented in human history.
Arrhenius equation.
Yes, the ocean is an enormous sink for CO2. As it warms, CO2 becomes less soluble and will dump ever more into the atmosphere, in a self reinforcing cycle.
>"Akshully this has all technically happened before!"
In the context of modern day "Climate Change", anthropogenic sources are accelerating an otherwise natural process. The shorter time scale of these changes puts intolerable pressure on both natural ecosystems and human society. It has depressing implications for the average person's quality of life. Yes, the way climate activists go about it is preachy and annoying. Some of their claims are exaggerated and many of their proposed solutions are too moronic and radical to be realistically implemented. The bottom line is that unless "we" find a way to solve this massive collective action problem, things are going to suck much more, much faster unless we find a way to (at least) embrace measured solutions on a large-scale. If you were smart you'd get onboard now to try to negotiate the terms of your payroll, but I'll be you're gonna wait until a bunch of ivory-tower tech homosexuals have you eating bugs.
massive pseuds
Oh so you’re 16? Got it.
Based knowledgeable anons
You can’t even name the specific problems.
There's nothing based about intentionally spreading misinformation and they clearly lack the knowledge that human are measurably accelerating the problem.
>that human are measurably accelerating the problem.
your terrible english aside, there is no conceivable way we even have useful data on this claim
We can directly measure the changes in the atmospheric composition of CO2 during different periods based on ice samples, the earth has never experienced such dramatic changes in temperature in so short a time until humans started pouring more into the atmosphere. The earth also measurably cooled during periods of decline in human population (such as the mongols massacred much of Asia and it became reforested)
anon we've been in an ice age for all of our civilization
there isn't even ice from the past ice-age, what's your point?
>the earth has never experienced such dramatic changes in temperature in so short a time
That’s just not at all true.
>fable about climate change
Dropped
>climate change
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
Climate change couldn't be more of an actuality.
Climate change is entirely real, dumbest. We have a moral imperative to speed it up as fast as we can.
Did you think C&H was just the slapstick strips or something
Calvin and Hobbes has that overly verbose subagressive self-righteous snark that reddit loves.
If not for the massive millennial boomer nostalgia for that strip and its amazing art Cinemaphile would shit on this so badly.
Word salad tossed by a homosexual.
Cinemaphile IS reddit now. Hence the increased dislike of Calvin and Hobbes.
Counterpoint: have a nice day.
WOW THE CREATOR OF CALVIN AND HOBBES PUT AN ENVIRONMENTAL MESSAGE IN HIS WORK. WHAT A BETRAYAL. HAS BILL WATTERSON GONE WOKE?!
Did you all just forget that Calvin and Hobbes had constant environmental strips?
>you LE FORGOT
frick off gay people don't want to read a comic that's just about climate change. c&h covered a variety of topics, was funny and wasn't just the author being preachy.
Have you actually read the book? Is it preachy?
Sure, but I'd still be suspicious of a book that was Calvin and Hobbes fix the ozone layer. Not suprising that anon checked out. I'm going to give it a shot though.
Can we have less low quality sci/pol shitposting and more book though?
at this point to make a dent in climate change we'd have to destroy the wetlands because they're the main producers of methane
Going into how environmentalism itself ends up sabotaging effective action would actually be kind of a fresh take.
Humans are polluting the planet, but climate change is a natural thing that has happened since the earth has existed. Also, the concept of carbon footprint was invented by BP oil to pass blame and guilt on to consumers instead of the corporations who are actually destroying the environment. Anyone who uses the term "carbon footprint" unironically is a useful idiot for big oil. Research the Climategate I and II scandals to learn more about global warming being fake. Leading climate change scientists got caught admitting in emails to eachother they were doctoring the data to show the results they wanted.
>use le google to follow my conspiratorial rabbitholes
Not an argument.
>leading scientists
How wonderfully vague.
>People are surprised that the author of Calvin and Hobbes is concerned about the environment.
Have you read Calvin and Hobbes? Half the damn comic, no, like two thirds of it, were about the splendor of nature. The guy turned his Sunday color strips into watercolor landscape museum pieces to convince people to go the frick outside and take a walk. There’s already one guy posting the C&H strips about pollution in this thread, and there’s dozens more examples.
The only way you could be ignorant to Watterson’s environmentalism is if you have never ever read C&H not even once in your entire fricking life.
Do you think these people get mad when they watch a Ghibli movie and it has an environmental message?
Do they get annoyed at Lord of the Rings being anti-industrialist?
You assume these people read at all
If you think your comfortable western country has problems with immigration now, wait until the mass exodus from equatorial countries into your space
It's funny how people are still parroting the talking points they were programmed with by oil company execs and lobbyists years after those same oil companies accepted the reality of what's happening and started majorly investing in alternative energy sources.
This, God.
I read it. It's got some neat pictures of mostly small scenes. Here's a short synopsis of the story
People respected the mysteries (nature basically) because they feared its unknowable power. They eventually figured out the secrets of these mysteries and had no fear anymore. They lived in excess and thought themselves the masters of the world. Unpleasant changes became apparent, and wise men studied them while others ignored them. Eventually, they disappeared. When they were gone, the mysteries reclaimed the world
Any watterson art?
It's all by collaboration as far as I know
I really liked the interior shot of the guy in middle ages garb slurping some of kind startbucks style frappacino through a straw while driving a car in traffic. Really shows how people were facing modern problems but had old fashioned mindsets.
That homie is still alive?
He, he retired in his early 40's
So how about the fricking book?
if we were serious about mitigating temperature increase we'd destroy the wetlands asap, completely obliterate life there
Is this the new argument? "Unless you're willing to cause an ecological catastrophe you're not really serious about climate change?
no, it's just a fact. You can do whatever you want but the wetlands are the largest producers of methane today. Human emissions leveled out almost a decade ago, and while you COULD lower those (and I encourage it), the biggest bang for your buck is to destroy the wetlands
The publisher released an interview with Bill on the process of making the book.
That's pretty cool.
I think it also puts the AI speculation to bed. Which doesn't surprise me. Given Watterson's disposition towards the integrity of his art, he would probably kill himself before using AI.
It's sitting on my game room table, came by Amazon yesterday, haven't had a chance at it yet.
How many pages?