>New Gundam series just finished
It's that time again /m/. Post those opinions and let us know how you think WfM compared to the rest of Gundam
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>let us know how you think WfM compared to the rest of Gundam
F tier, not even a question
It’s too early to tell where WFM lands on my list. Gotta let it slimmer a bit before I can treat it as objectively as possible.
No bullshit I truly do think it’s the worst gundam I’ve ever seen yet. I hated it more than seed. I haven’t been able to watch every series but this was just really bad. They didn’t rely on a good story and instead relied too much on other things they thought would improve the show and it didn’t.
Same here, literally nothing happened and that would be fine if the characters had been fun on their own but there's this dramatic coat all over the writing making you think that something will eventually happen but it was either telegraphed or completely inconsequential.
And the worst part is that I could tell that there was a ton of wasted potential. I was thinking of story lines that would have been WAY better to follow then the bullshit they did. Several concepts in the show were fricking awesome but they never even used them and instead finished with a moronic ending that was beyond shallow. I hope the writer is fired and never allowed to touch gundam again.
00 that hihg? I mean, I'll take it I guess
More or less accurate, some stuff changes a lot though, mainly in B and C
Meant to put G-Witch S2 between Origin and Seed
This is good.
I had more fun watching Wing than this to be honest
How? I recently rewatched wing and it has very few moments. I'd argue age is a lot better than it
Exactly. It's those few moments that more than make up for it, there's literally nothing in WfM as hype as Heero emerging from atmosphere after taking care of the stray Peacemillion debris that was falling into earth at the end in Wing. Or anything like Wufei vs Treize, or Trowa snapping back from his mental rut. There are no equivalents, even if the show is a slog those moments make it shine.
Making this made me feel bad for 00, maybe I need to rewatch it but I remember the S1 cliffhanger/S2 beginning being mind-implodingly moronic.
00 only gets worse and worse on rewatches.
watch more UC shit, i'm begging you
probably some average taste
Criteria here is rewatchability, while 0083 has the best animation of the franchise its story and characters make it unwatchable after the 1st time. While Destiny only gets unwatchable at the 4th quarter.
1st Gundam here I'm counting as the movies, it should be separate from the TV series.
Oy homosexuals that have more than 1 or 2 in the S tier slot, you're doing it wrong.
Only shows in F tier I consider bad
>thinking gwitch s2 wasnt actually pure garbage with that ending
>unicorn fan complaining about endings
Haven't seen G-witch, nor do I care to as unlike the rest of this awful piece of shit mentally moronic board, I actually enjoy mecha and watch non-Gundam shit because Gundam is the absolute bottom of the barrel shit and is turbo mediocre at best. Please grow the frick up and watch a different show for once, you fricking scum.
What do you like?
I mean I actually like the majority of non-Gundam shows I've seen, even Code Geass, so it's got nothing to do with just shitting on it because its popular. The only non-Gundam stuff I don't really like that I've seen is like Franxx and Evangelion, and even then I think Evangelion is just fine but severely overrated by idiots who don't watch mecha at all. I even think TTGL is good, even if it's derivative as frick it's at least fun and hotblooded.
The reason why Gundam is such drivel is that basically everything that follows 0079 is derivative of it, but the source material isn't that good in the first place. I think that Ideon was a far better execution of what Tomino wanted to do in 0079. But then you have 40 years of people remaking the same shit with very few twists on the formula. The only really different shows are G-Gundam, 00 s1 and the movie, IBO (which rips off Dougram instead and still sucks), and I guess G-Witch now.
>Code Geass
Everything you just said is invalid
Is this what cope feels like? Are you upset that Geass is just Gundam if it wasn't absolute shit?
Is this what bait feels like? Remember when Lelouch smuggled a million people unopposed because he made them costumes? Remember when he commanded Suzaku to live and basically made him immortal? Remember when that one guy made an illegal and suicidal chess move and it was treated like a gigabrain moment by the writing? Remember when Lelouch mind controlled literally God? Zero Requiem was cool but it did nothing to make up for the absolute mountain of shlocky shit that the show was expecting the audience to swallow the whole way there.
>Remember when Lelouch smuggled a million people unopposed because he made them costumes?
Yeah, and I don't think it was particularly egregious since it was justified within the plot.
>Remember when he commanded Suzaku to live and basically made him immortal?
Yeah, and? You're okay with someone being able to control people's minds with their eye but not this?
>Remember when that one guy made an illegal and suicidal chess move and it was treated like a gigabrain moment by the writing?
Okay, I didn't watch Geass to see one hundred percent accurate chess playing. That's like criticising Macross 7 because Basara doesn't fret the guitar correctly.
>Remember when Lelouch mind controlled literally God?
Do you complain about in VOTOMs when Chirico literally kills God?
These are anime youtuber-tier nitpicks, it's as if you were just trying to find a reason to hate Geass for some fricking reason, as if it touched you on the dick as a kid. I thought it was going to be shit too when I watched it, but it turned out to be a fun ride with an interesting and twisting plot. Maybe you'd enjoy life a lot more if you didn't feel like you had to stick with the shit hivemind of this terrible board.
No it was all stupid and pointing to other series doesn't excuse how stupid it is. You defend it because you're just the "contrarian" guy who likes Geass and hates Gundam. Believe you me if this is all it takes to defend shit writing I could defend even the shittiest of writing in Gundam from your criticisms.
Yes, so contrarian that I think a series that has outsold most Gundam shows is better than most Gundam shows. Your criticism is "these events are stupid because I said so", so why should I even bother engaging with someone who has clearly watched some anituber give their shit unwarranted CinemaSins-tier opinion on the show and is now spouting it verbatim on this board?
I barely even know what an Oldrin is, though granted GGG is still the only Braves show I've seen. GGG is certainly better than every Gundam show by far though.
Your criticism is "you clearly watched some anituber give their shit unwarranted CinemaSins-tier opinion on the show and are now spouting it verbatim on this board" and yet that is factually, objectively, positively and necessarily 100% false. Therefore you are a liar and everything you say is so much garbage down the garbage chute. Good day sir.
Yes, I should take your word that you formed your own opinion and critical analysis on Geass when you can barely string a sentence together in English except when you copy and paste my sentences.
I sincerely hope you have a terrible day, I hope you step on a lego piece and fall face first into a puddle of your dog's piss.
Watch the older brave series, they are good (And Betterman is a better evangaleon)
Code Geass is dog shit and Gundam is better in every conceivable way imaginable.
Cod Grease is better than most Gundam shows, if only aesthetically, maybe, but that doesn't mean it's not an awful show anyway. I've watched Code Geass every single year since it aired up until the pandemic hit, and I can say without a doubt it fricking sucks and is an exercise in massive wasted potential. Literally the only good part is the cool robots, that's basically it.
Hating Geass is a contrarian take.
Shitting on Geass is the most common take. moron. Making dumb hot takes like chra wanking the show being better than a franchise is copying and doing worse is contraction. Kys.
Get a load of this newbie tourist.
Ironic. Only newbies think code grease is good.
Yeah yeah, no need to keep proving you're a clueless newbie.
Elaborate how I'm a newbie other than calling CG garbage?
Don’t tell me you are the oldrin spambot… also try watching the brave series besides gaogaigar
Code Geass is not even 10% as good from anything in gundam. My dood.
Okay you just have shit taste. Sorry for putting you on the spot like that but when I hear a shitty mecha take my impostor syndrome activates until I see that they like Code Geass and then I resume being smug. This always happens.
Your taste is beyond garbage. And you're also wrong because most Gundamgays do watch Macross and votoms on top of a multitude of other Mecha unlike evagays, code grease and TTGL gays.
Ok your taste on CG is shit and your take on Gundam as a whole is little dumb but understandable, so at least you're trying to not allow your soul to be weighted down by gravity, especially when you brought up how good ideon & dougram is.
I retract my post
Normalize your range to show the distribution instead of trying to have a big epeen in front of dorks, you dumbass. Talk about misunderstanding the assignment.
I should note F tier is about 3 or 4 out of 10 rather than utter trash
>Igloo at A
>Narrative at A
>Thunderbolt below Twilight Axis
Omegabased
Igloo is legitimately amazing and tremendously underrated
Narrative is honestly also good, I think it's a nice finish for Unicorn.
Twilight Axis... I admit I'm cutting it some slack because everything except music and voice acting was done by one guy.
Your list is already dog shit
Added a few more slots to be more accurate
it's made me aware of how little I've actually seen of all these "UC retelling" stuff
The only good Gundam shows are Turn A, G and the original. Everything else is hot garbage
>Cod Grease is better than most Gundam shows
No it's not moron. CG Wing & ibo tier at best. Garbage power fantasy char wank show for man children.
G-Witch was pretty much just another AU for me. Lot of good ideas that get trashed because Sunrise obsessively follows trends and listens to social media weirdos, too much focusing on a relationship the main character has, increasing script problems as the series goes on ultimately culminating in something that could've been so much better than it was. Still didn't hate, just like most of the AUs.
G-Witch kept stumbling, then fell down the stairs. Season 2 is higher only for Guel and his boys... and Felsi.
It's nice seeing Age get C here. Apart from the opening 17 episodes being shit it become a lot better
>twfm bait thread
>only argument is about gayass
I know you all can do better than that
Any listing that doesn't have Turn A and G-Reco at the top is made by morons.
To everybody Gbitching about GWitch:
>If you're mad Gundam has "changed":
Gundam's job isn't to make you feel young again so you can nurse at the teet of nostalgia endlessly
Go be an adult and go have adult experiences instead of bellyaching over a cartoon lots of people really enjoyed?
>This is too silly and weird:
Gundam is not upright mechwarrior. Gundam. Go watch the original show, idiot
>Its too cutesy!
Well yeah, its post-2000's TV anime. Don't base TV anime on standards you established in the 1980's and 1990's from OVA. The internet and fandom literally changed anime, you know this, right?
>I don't like the yuri! Its gwoke!
You do know Tomino originally wrote Zeta and especially CCA with the intent of being ambiguous about Char and Amuro's relationship specifically to appeal to a female audience, right?
>I don't like the character drama
The point of the drama is to make the fights meaningful. If you want to see pretty lights without stakes, go watch some monster of the week fireworks show
>I don't like that it has broader appeal
Then be less narrow minded and grow as a person so you can enjoy things instead of growing old and miserable and lonely
>Where are the politics! I want politics!
Business is the new politics. Have you not paid attention to the last 30 years? Go read some Francis Fukuyama you unwashed weirdo
>Its not Gundam!
Bro, its literally "what if Zeon Daikun lost his son and went on a rampage using newtypeism as a weapon, wrapped in Fukuyama's End of History, Armored Core 4, and The Tempest by Shakespere. The show literally has two girls who are direct callbacks to Kamille and Judeau and both of them die lmao
>Why didn't bobbu get the girl
Bro, Dote is right there in his office and she is down bad for him
The job of Gundam is not to make you feel 15 again. These are new experiences for people growing up in today's world, not the one you grew up in. If you're b***hing about this, you're either an entitled old fart, or a social moron
>I'm just gonna Strawman!
You silly Billy, strawman only makes you look like a doofus!
You do also mix with this community and understand why these opinions arise based on the demographics that actually come here, right? Or are you a terminally online seal who sits clapping keys all day for internet points instead of ass like some sort of chump?
Based g witch poster, keep buttfricking those taste shitters.
>The point of the drama is to make the fights meaningful
What fights lol
counter, completely seperate to all of that:
its shitty writing with shitty animation and shitty suits lmfao
cope harder you literal teenager
I get that this is gay bait but lmao at the drama bit
especially with 21st century gundam shows. Seed destiny's whole catalyst is set off by drama
Nice reddit spacing, but that's basically admitting today's generation will eat up anything that panders to their gay fantasies, so you do you yurigay
also ratings
i think my mission on trying to complete Gundam faded away when I completed all of Tomino stuff, tried some these so-called 'Best AU Gundam' and nothing can compare with the master. I thought watching Witch would make me pumped enough to go back completing it but nah it got worse.
Don't care if any of you think my list is 'wrong', it's mine. Sit and seethe to yourself and argue with that geassgay above instead.
>Shitting on Geass is the most common take. moron. Making dumb hot takes like char clone wank the show, being better than the franchise it's copying and doing worse is peak contrarian. Kys.
Frick my ESL. I need to stop replying to bait tier shitters.
I haven't watched a good chunk of the series, because I am a relative gundam newbie.
I watched wing start to finish when I was like 5 or something on toonami and after that I only watched G-gundam online when I was 12 and build fighters and it sequels back when it aired.
I only decided to get into gundam proper untill IBO s1 ended.
And have been making way through the franchise in release order ever since.
Currently at wing.
Well, I'll put it to B+. I liked a lot of it but the ending was very rushed. Really needed to be 50 episodes to fully explore the setting.
It's not ZZ 'disappointing overall with good parts', but it's not Turn A 'very weird but perfect for what it is' either.
Ah here it is, and yeah I didnt watch witch
>will never watch G
What the hell is wrong with you?
Because I, unlike you Black folk, is aware of the existence of a manga adaptation by Shimamoto Kazuhiko and I will not settle for anything other than his work, so frick off with anime bullshit, until it gets translated I will never touch G.
I did read the Tokita manga from the 90's tho
But that manga adaption came over 15 years after G ended
Worst list in the thread
I like that for whatever reason he decided to watch Endless Waltz before Wing, then vowed to never watch Wing. Environmental storytelling.
Also, I haven't watched any Tomino stuff post-F91, but aren't Turn A and X supposed to be a package deal? How does someone hate X and love Turn A?
They're not related at all. Both are good though
I did read the gundam wing manga series, it was boring and with 00 existing, wing is completely useless.
And gundam x is the most mediocre shit ever, so to compare it with turn a is quite sad.
Good thing that I didnt knew gundam before then.
Well here it is /m/en, I'm still going through most AU's/side materials/movies since I started going on production order a few months ago but yeah, G-witch season 2 was atrocious.
G-Witch finale knocked it down two whole tiers for me.
new gay here, began my journey just a few months ago with the new series.
still, wanted to share my short list with you anyway
So many anons here have rated 08th MS as C. Why is the general consensus among mecha fans that it's average but then when you speak to other anime fans they always speak of it highly despite never having watched CCA or Zeta?
08th MS Team excels in animation and mecha combat, but the Star-crossed lovers story with Shiro and Aina really brings it down a notch for most people. There's also the thing with most casuals going on about how it's "The most realistic gundam" ever since there's little to no newtype bullshit yet you have shit like Shiro dodging a Zaku's rocket on his feet. It's alright, but not the best thing ever in the world out there.
Non-mecha fans tend to love every single mecha they have seen and hate every single mecha they haven't seen. Mecha fans are the ones with actual likes and dislikes within the genre, sensical or no. Also what the first reply said.
will watch the rest at some point
Wow the plebest taste here. Boring
There's a lot of Gundam I need to watch/rewatch
This is probably gonna piss a lot of you off.
I can accept any difference of opinion no matter how stark (and this is quite stark) as long as CCA is in the top 3
>all these anons with ZZ on high tier
Why are you silent when people recommend to skip it?
I think I'm too harsh with WfM because it's new but I can't help but feel really disappointed finishing it. I didn't actively hate it like Unicorn though. Unicorn was on another level for me of "what the frick is this stupid shit"
On a side note, anyone kinda wish that X and IBO changed story structure? I remember watching these two pretty close together and I wish X had a more coherent plot with a linear story rather than it being mostly episodic and I thought IBO political mumble jumble was just stupid and they should've went for a more episodic approach with the mercenaries accepting missions for a few arcs.
I was half expecting ZZ to be Judau and friends in Shangri-la for a good portion of the plot getting into hijinks while Argama is stocking and piling up and it would be like Turn A's middle portion but more comedic. Instead they go into space really fricking fast and it turns into Zeta 2 except not really and also tonal shifts all over the damn place. Damn ZZ was a mess but it is still enjoyable.
>ZZ was a mess
No it's not.
i love it but tonal shifts all over the place, characters jumping all over the place, lol onii chan i survived a kamikaze attack to the face!
like damn bro judau doesn't even seem that shook up that ple died. then again there was a timeskip but damn what a shift.
>tonal shifts
Oh you are moronic.
Even though F91 is technically bad, I'm so rent free over it.
It's fricking gorgeous, if you compare the plot structure and weave it through Victory's plot, you can really imagine how amazing the story would've been. The cast was fun and had good designs. The Colony attack is still one of the best Gundam setpieces. FRICKKKK IT would've been so good damn it I'm still mad
WfM wasn't painful to watch, but it was slow and mostly wasted potential. assgrabs were predictable so weren't entirely offensive.
Might as well get on that Twilight Axis train right now, Anon. It’s only 20 minutes or something
Imagine being a b***h about Breaker Battlogue. God forbid you spend a half hour
I'm too lazy to go through your list on your own taste. Why is my tier list A tier? Why are others d tier?
Respect for some of the AUs like G fighter and Turn A, Didn't just hate on SEED or Build fighters cos you didn't like and didn't over value mid tier OVAs. Anyone who's watched ZZ gets respect too
Why is mine on b then (
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My list should be the most strange here since I rate destiny and twilight axis so high even when its hated and well liked shit in comparisson like cca, 08th, build fighter is so down?
No Idea tbh should be in A tier. Willing to try age is also a good thing
Anon just did a quick scan at S and A. Anything that anon doesn't like on A quickly goes to lower despite some of the lower ranked have solid S tier.
Rate it and weep
It’s fine. S tier is spot on, the rest is decent outside of some bizarre placements but I’ve seen much much worse
What's the ones that stand out for you?
The weird ones? 00 movie in A but S1 in C and S2 in B. Beginning G above Try and Build (and Try being higher than Build), IBO S2 above S1
So I can answer that
> Trailblazer
I rewatched it again recently and it made a lot of sense. More than it did originally and I liked the concept. It was messy but it conveyed its themes of first contact and unity well enough. Something I think a gundam hasn't done that well since. As for 00S1 it was good but S2 had more nostalgia for me.
>Beginning G
was good it kinda what got me into Gunpla, it hold sentimental reasons
>IBO S2
For all the short comings of S2 I feel like it had some pretty enjoyable moments and it felt like a recontextualization of Gundam. Almost like we were seeing it from the antagonists view someone could make an edit of S2 and have it from Russels side and it would be a very typical Gundam story. It was just interesting to see many tropes in gundam get turned on its head in away. And I respect it for that
>Almost like we were seeing it from the antagonists view someone
Get the frick out of here Nagai
I don't care much for Hathaway. Too much of a setup movie with no sizzle.
It is what it is. I loved it but I can see if it doesn’t scratch the itch I suppose
I just can't rank hathaway that high yet because we haven't seen enough of it.
It's not finished but as a standlone movie setting things up it's pretty and the characters are good. But If the other movies come out as shit then it wont affect the ranking
Why? The movie was extremely solid
NTA but it's an incomplete thought. Yes the plot was very interesting but no need to be hasty ranking it so high when it's not done.
That literally makes 0 sense, moron. Regardless of the remaining entries the fact that first one was good for me is enough to rank it high.
I'm not telling you you can't think that.
Too early to put Hathaway in S for me.
None of y’all cowards have Urdr in your lists?
It’s not even in any of the tiermaker templates
That’s dumb
Urdr Hunt is a mobage, moron.
>he hasn’t watched up to episode 17
NTA but all I know that happened recently is they showed Marchosias or whatever the frick it’s called and MUHGillis made a return. It’s still a mobile game though isn’t it? Unless something changed
It’s a mobile game who’s story mode is completely divorced from the game. What gameplay segments there are have set teams with zero interaction from the Gacha, and are surrounded by enough voices VN sections and crisply animated parts for one dude to put half hour episodes together from them
>he doesn’t know
One look at A tier pretty much tells you have normie taste.
Normie taste is Wing and OVAs.
>OVAs
>normie taste
Of course, for someone who have War in a Pocket at highest rank in A tier.
I'm going to assume what put my list into B tier is me actually liking Seed? that's about the only thing I can think of, for reference mine is the " my moronic gundam takes" one
A gundam show should be rated based on the mechanics it produced not the story or writing
hathaway by itself is just kinda tame. that's why you can't rank it so high. there's no suspense
>AGE in A
I can respect that
my taste > your taste
Gazaza zolot bogo wet tet bek
Still trudging my way to the franchise after so long. I tend to always watch the latest entries and then go back to watch the older ones so its been a slog but I'm finally getting the backlog done at an alarming rate and I'm currently watching 0083 and X at the same time. Changed the bottom two since I'm actively trying to get through as many entries as possible and re-watching so I started years ago. As you can see I'm a simple man with simple taste and tend to like Gundam anime that are focused than ones trying to juggle various concepts and fail at them. If the MSG movies were options I would put Encounters in Space in the S tier.
Also its funny after watching SEED and Zeta Gundam that 90% of the references and discussions on this board stems from them.
not that controversial besides not putting msg right on-top
barely remember the toy commercials and cgi stuff besides the fun stuff from igloo, don't feel like they even fit