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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everything hellboy that isn’t the comics or del torro is terrible.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      even the del torro stuff is mediocre besides some of costumes and set designs.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WHY IS THIS SERIES SO CURSED!?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mignola must have pissed off the irl Rasputin or something. This is a franchise about demons and an end of the world prophecy after all.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When you mess with dark shit for funsies, you get fricked in the ass by paranormal things. See: HP Lovecraft, Stephen King and Poe.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't see a problem. Movie CGI has been pretty shit so far. AI making it worse would be impossible by every metric.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This has nothing to do with CGI, moron. this is about character design

      Even Aladdin and Beauty and the Beast used AI back in the 90s, don't see the issue here

      Source?

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even Aladdin and Beauty and the Beast used AI back in the 90s, don't see the issue here

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If mignola doesn’t make a statement about this he’s a massive fricking homosexual.

    • 4 weeks ago
      guy

      So technology is advancing? Cool

      >Demanding creators be ideological puppets which destroys their creativity
      Take this cringe back to where you came from

      >have all of mignola to draw from
      >use the theft machine to produce slop instead
      Hellboy is a cursed franchise.
      Jesus Fricking Christ.

      "Jonathan Yunger, President of Millennium Films." I'll remember that.

      You won't remember how to contribute anything meaningful to Artistic conversations, just how to be a cringe luddite

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        have a nice day

        • 4 weeks ago
          guy

          Nope, instead you will have to suffer from me making my ongoing series about AI development. Said to be the new Star Wars in spiritual visions

          We went from an oscar winning director who would design the creatures himself to dudes having AI design for them.

          It's a normal part of the concept art process to use photos from online, research, etc. to cobble together designs. This is just a new tool for that

          Instead of "this random building looks good" it's "this random AI image looks good"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nope, instead you will have to suffer from me making my ongoing series about AI development. Said to be the new Star Wars in spiritual visions
        [...]
        It's a normal part of the concept art process to use photos from online, research, etc. to cobble together designs. This is just a new tool for that

        Instead of "this random building looks good" it's "this random AI image looks good"

        Imagine if you could look forward to making a positive contribution to society rather than attacking anyone who threatens your career interests

        Easy to see why you like AI so much when your art looks like this.

        • 4 weeks ago
          guy

          Pipe down boil, we don't need you to make the same comments and self-replies you've made 100s of times before

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why is your art so terrible?

            • 4 weeks ago
              guy

              >Tries to come up with a new statement
              >Has to ask me like I'm his school teacher
              The proudest defender of AI hate, they're so lucky they have this kind of mind to speak for them

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So are you gonna tell us why your art is so terrible?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that one actually might lead to something great, let him cook

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lol Jesus Christ this shit is hideous

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            oh god, did this homie have 4 strokes in a row?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gonna be trash. Hate that Mignola allows these shit movies to be made. I remember him shilling that last flop movie. Wonder what he'll say to sell this one.

      https://twitter.com/artofmmignola/status/1785472828328038420
      He had zero idea and is just finding out right now like us

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hope Mignola shits on this movie to no end.

        • 4 weeks ago
          guy

          Imagine if you could look forward to making a positive contribution to society rather than attacking anyone who threatens your career interests

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anyone on Cinemaphile has no career interests.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Deleted

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can't tell if that's good or bad thing
          Is he just contractually obligated not to talk shit about this?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I have to imagine so. And it was a nothing tweet too. "I'm just finding out now too. Not happy about this."

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I have to imagine so. And it was a nothing tweet too. "I'm just finding out now too. Not happy about this."

            He forgot to purge his likes at the very least. I think the worst part is that if Im reading the article right, it wasnt the director making this call. The president of the company went over him and did it.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >this franchise can't catch a break
              It really can't. The 2019 movie. BPRD's ending being rushed and underwhelming after decades of comics. Scott Allie being an abuser. Guy Davis and John Arcudi leaving, and at least one of them being shafted out of royalties. The list goes on.

              Hell, I hear that even the game that came out last year wasn't very good.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I wont lie that the ending wasnt particularly satisfying, honestly while I like all the one off comics they do for hellboy now its still weird knowing the ending. I enjoyed the game, its a fun beat em up, Lance Reddick isnt who I would have cast but it grows on me after a while.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I cannot get into the game at all. The genre just does not mesh with the the feel of Hellboy for me

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly I just think the games controls arent tight enough, and it needs to be more difficult. I really enjoyed dualing the bigger enemies but it could be clunky and get repetitive, and I didn't die until halfway through the game. But if it wasnt this it should have been something like a point and click I think

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is something way messed up with the controls, something just feels wrong with the control scheme they use for the light and heavy punches. I agree a point and click, or something like a Resident Evil style game would.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If there's gonna be a controversy it'd be funny that all he needed to do was keep his mouth shut

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    gay

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >using AI for concept art and character designs
    may satan take your wretched souls

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >have all of mignola to draw from
    >use the theft machine to produce slop instead
    Hellboy is a cursed franchise.
    Jesus Fricking Christ.

    "Jonathan Yunger, President of Millennium Films." I'll remember that.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's the funniest thing that the biggest generation of media pirates RÈEEEEEEEEE when they perceive (incorrectly) that copyright infringement is affecting THEM

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He won't hire an artist to do something, he'll just do it himself and give himself a bonus. butthole.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The guy who did this is the President of the studio
    Frick, they can't kick him out

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gonna be trash. Hate that Mignola allows these shit movies to be made. I remember him shilling that last flop movie. Wonder what he'll say to sell this one.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the future is now kek
    but tbh most of Cinemaphile is against gun ownership so a revolution to stop AI overlords from ruining every industry is impossible

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm waiting for there to be someone in the industry who holds no illusion of respect for the anti-AI crowd. Someone willing to use terms like "Luddite" and "Unabomber" as insults for people who rage against AI's use

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Someone willing to use terms like "Luddite"
        Time to step up and be that person, then, since you're literally the same moron who spams that insult on every board across this fricking site.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Calm down, Unabomber

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can think of no greater insult to Mike Mignola. The man created something great by working hard and cultivating creativity, and now the movie rights to his work are in the hands of people that would prefer to steal that create.

    • 4 weeks ago
      guy

      How can you steal things that didn't exist before they were generated? At this point you're just complaining about invention, wanting to be in the company town of established brands, trapped from seeing anything outside of those brands.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      but his art sucks.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm going to rape and kill you dude

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >AI generates the images from nothing
      >some fricking nobody calls it stealing

      Wonder why no one is listening to you anon

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >concept art
    >for a comic character
    You have the comic art right there, use that.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nah they wanna make gay OC donut steel lame shit like the portfolio abortions people shoved into the castlevania netflix series

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We went from an oscar winning director who would design the creatures himself to dudes having AI design for them.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like how no one is questioning why the frick is the president of the studio doing the character design art. Is the budget down that bad for the movie or is it the more likely scenario is that he wanted to ise buzzword ai to get traction of a hellboy movie & push millenium as corpo innovator.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        After the Godzilla Minus One director pushed Hollywood's shit in by designing the CGI himself, Hollywood has no excuse.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's different and you know it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It did seem bizarre and if

        We’re back

        is true then it was probably some kind of butchered quote like that time when some air force colonel said some shit about a rogue AI drone killing its human operator but it turned out to be some hypothetical scenario he made up. Maybe this Yunger guy was only IMAGINING the possibilities at some speaker event.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, he apparently did it for the movie he IS talking about.
        This really is the shit we're going to have to be vigilant for, talentless producers trying to make even more money by just cutting out as many creatives as they can.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cool

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It must suck having such a deficient imagination that you have to ask a machine to imagine things for you.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The AI thread on Cinemaphile is always full of gems

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Know what AI doesn't do? Insert fetishes,and woke shit at every chance. Why not fire the fricking gaypilled artists and replace them with AI that will actually make a real movie and not a college essay on gender studies.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what if we get based woke-hating, gay-bashing, groid-hanging artists to work on these movies instead?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ai-shills don't have the brain power to process this line of thinking

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Problem is there basically aren’t any

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We both know AI will be injected with gender, fetish shit. It happened with Tay AI, it'll happen again.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why are AIjeets so dishonest?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lmao wtf is microsoft doing
        nta but you wouldn't have that problem with self-hosted solutions
        also I wanna see those freckled cheeks and butthole

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >AIjeets
        redditor

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Know what AI doesn't do? Insert fetishes,and woke shit at every chance. Why not fire the fricking gaypilled artists and replace them with AI that will actually make a real movie and not a college essay on gender studies.
      >Know what AI doesn't do? Insert fetishes,and woke shit at every chance.
      Uhhh anon...I..

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I keep forgetting this film is coming out.

    Shot over a year ago, quietly & quickly, no leaks/looks, hasn't made the news up til now. Clearly an ashcan to hold onto the HB rights.

    And the worst part is it's based on a storyline I enjoyed.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is still kind of subversive among comic, art, and film fans. I really wonder why they would bother bragging about this in public if it's not for some kind of hate clicks.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wow, and now the legacy of Hellboy will not just be a really shit movie that no one knows how it got a greenlight, but the first movie to replace the concept art team with AI.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >hellboy
    >kino
    pick one

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I suspect the original design was too standard of a demon design. Ya know, something we might see in Hellboy. And the one we end up seeing will be garishly over the top, or "original."

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How the frick does somebody take something like Hellboy and go "hmm nope no inspiration here, these 3000 randomly generated designs are better." Does Yunger have any actual art experience background or is he yet another number crunching middle management type?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because it's about having designs in an afternoon instead of two weeks.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Does Yunger have any actual art experience background

      His IMDB is wall-to-wall "Producer" credits, no experience as writer, director, or anything artistic. He did a few "lol, I'm in the movie!" background extra parts, the truest possible sign that he's a rich butthole.
      This is a producer bragging about how he can fire the entire art department and replace them with a random number generator.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Guess they will have to get real jobs now. What a fricking tragedy

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If it wasnt for the art departments and the art he is scraping to "make his model" he wouldnt be able to generate anything dipshit.
          Also have a nice day.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Look, concept artist make a fricking stupid amount of money for the piss poor, almost zero amount of work and that shit needed to stop. A guy that works for three weeks and makes 100K for it needs to be fricking shot. That's not working, that's not a job. I'm not crying that the biscuit wheels fell off that gravy train.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I dont know what reality you live in where concept artists make that much money for 3 weeks of work. Never mind the fact that if anything thats what the person who is made this ai choice is making because hes the president of the company.
              Anyway have a nice day if youre dumb enough to believe the numbers you gave
              Anyway kill yoursel

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Drawing isn't working anon, no one needs to be paid to draw pictures. It's a hobby, not a career.

                ...and it's a hobby little kids have before they gain actual skills.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                okay, have a nice day

                Really what do you like about it, the theme of a demon making the hard choice of renouncing evil despite how easy it is to keep that path? Or you're just saying empty garbage for your tantrum

                I'm going to play a game of sending screenshots of every comment you've made so far and see how that affects your persona
                [...]
                >*Andrew Hussie
                Samegay why don't you address my series about AI development, is it because I conceived it with my best friend who worked on your favorite webcomic Homestuck? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lpcyBYfl36185A6wglfFV-txRuuk3dtu8BtRKJiXVaU/edit?usp=drivesdk can you prove you have more than the most elementary literacy?
                [...]
                [...]
                Boil I'm going to message industry people 30 times now since that's the justified retaliation for your behavior, enjoy.
                >I dont know what reality you live in where concept artists make that much money for 3 weeks of work.
                I'm sure Arvalis (one of the leading AI haters) was paid big bucks to make pokémon ugly and unappealing.

                You clearly have no idea what hellboy is about, considering hellboy never once displayed interest in being evil Its a wonderful dive into folklore, myth, and religion through the lens of a unflappable protagonist who at is core never falters from the man who his father raised him to be. Why would I even care about you posting me telling you to have a nice day, you have no idea who I am and I dont know who you are beyond the fact that you have garbage opinions and that I think you should have a nice day.

                I dont even work in the industry, I work in tech lmao anyway have a nice day

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Your complaints are detached from all reality.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I hate artists, they need to get real jobs
          The saddest thing about all this nonsense is the morons like you, cheering at the thought of out-of-work artists, oblivious to the fact that the people who will lose out in this new environment aren't going to be the artists you hate the most. The rainbowhaired rich trustfund kiddies will be the ones allowed to remain. The "I nailed a banana to the wall" dudes will do just fine. The ones that are going to be fricked are going to be the dudes coming from poor families who just wanted to make art, but won't be able to make a living at it any more, and won't have mommy-and-daddy money to help

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I hate all modern artists I don't care

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Artgays need to start a civil war in their own community then if they want popular support. AI is basically conceived of as a blunt object weapon in a populist revolt against R. Mutt shit smear banana tape garbage which is now the establishment. Have some artists start larping as Rembrandt and saying uhh we’re to go back and surpass all the old masters rather than subvert them and watch public opinion flip back to your side. There are some people who are truly just anti-intellectual anti-artistic lumpen morons but there are many others who just want the entire art world to burn down due to their resentment towards elite art who could probably have their minds changed were artists to align themselves with more conventional people rather than against them

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >populist revolt
              >it's used by greedy businessmen to cut costs and increase profits

              I bet you're one of those c**ts who think supporting Trump is also revolutionary

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >populist revolt against R. Mutt shit smear banana tape garbage which is now the establishment
              so this is the current moronic sentiment among you mongs? you defend a rich idiot who i swear to god has never made a good movie in his life and only gets greenlights by ways of connections and cash by saying he's using "anti-establishment" tools? you imbeciles need to get some perspective, its not "populist", its not "anti-establishment", its exactly the opposite, you mules
              i hope you're just making up shit you don't actually believe in because you'll be crying the moment your stupid brain gets event a glimpse of what you're trying to advocate for

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My favorite part is that the banana-type art is precisely the shit that won't be affected by AI.
                AI will not be able to walk into a museum, staple a banana to a wall, and yell "there, art, now pay me."
                What AI will absolutely frick over are the people that just want to go into illustration.
                We're looking at our culture being turned into the worst slop imaginable, art being discarded in favor of algorithm-created images, while the internet fills up with AI-written articles and AI-created realistic videos, to the point where it'll be impossible to tell what's real and what's not.
                And there will be people watching civilization rotting who will applaud because they've deluded themselves into thinking this hellscape somehow "owns the libcuck establishment."

                Anyway, glad the Hellboy movie doesn't have AI in it. It'll probably suck anyway, but hey, maybe we'll get lucky and it'll be decent.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The ones that are going to be fricked are going to be the dudes coming from poor families who just wanted to make art, but won't be able to make a living at it any more, and won't have mommy-and-daddy money to help

            So what you are saying is, they will have to get real jobs....

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Normies will never grasp that. America in general have a full on seething hatred of the very concept of an artist and considers them to all be banana wall Andy Warhol types. They are not going to accept any explanation, they have their conclusion, they do not give a frick what details you want to speak.

            It's the same situation as with retail and fastfood workers. American normies fricking LOATHE minimum wage employees and want to treat them like shit, but still want the burgers. Meanwhile the boomers send all manufacturing, shipping and big boy adult jobs for the unskilled worker overseas, and leaves the non college grads with gigs and low wagie shit. Then gets right to work hating them for taking gigs and low wagie shit.

            Basically if you are not in an office climbing ladders while wearing a tie, you might as well fricking have a nice day in their eyes.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Artgays need to start a civil war in their own community then if they want popular support. AI is basically conceived of as a blunt object weapon in a populist revolt against R. Mutt shit smear banana tape garbage which is now the establishment. Have some artists start larping as Rembrandt and saying uhh we’re to go back and surpass all the old masters rather than subvert them and watch public opinion flip back to your side. There are some people who are truly just anti-intellectual anti-artistic lumpen morons but there are many others who just want the entire art world to burn down due to their resentment towards elite art who could probably have their minds changed were artists to align themselves with more conventional people rather than against them

              >banana
              It's been half a decade. Get new material

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Makes sense. All those movies could've been done with AI.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Be Mike Mignola
    >Work hard on your craft
    >Develop a distinctive imaginative style
    >Get a decentish movie adaptation that sorta falls off
    >Get a reboot that's just fricking The Worst
    >"Maybe next time things will go better"
    >Log onto twitter for some funny cat pictures, and someone asks you what you think about an article just published about the new Hellboy movie...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he deserves what he gets, he's a pussy homosexual that doesn't want to upset people
      >b-but muh hollywood contract money
      he doesn't fricking need money, he should already have "frick you" money, but he's just getting fricked in the ass

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean does he even have the ability to actually stop movies like this from happening? My understanding was that he does not retain the rights to the movies because of the original deltoro series so he can't actually stop them. Like I know the discworld series got awful adaption after terry Pratchett died, his daughter shit on it too, specifically because while he didn't have the rights the studio knew he would tell anyone who asked him that it was garbage and if he's dead he can't do that

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mike Mignola doesn't get a single penny from Hellboy and instead has to rely on commercial work to get by.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Mike Mignola doesn't get a single penny from Hellboy
          fricking how

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            because this is an American comic, not a European comic or a manga.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"This is Mike's fault for accepting the money!"
        >(Editor's note: Mike did not accept the money, he has no say in this shitshow)

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          so he's got no reason to hold his tongue?
          why is he being so gay and deleting his comments

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He don't want drama? Being sued?

    • 4 weeks ago
      guy

      Corny
      "New movie is using new technology" is not even on the list of tragic problems, or even just tragic problems within movies

      >Does Yunger have any actual art experience background

      His IMDB is wall-to-wall "Producer" credits, no experience as writer, director, or anything artistic. He did a few "lol, I'm in the movie!" background extra parts, the truest possible sign that he's a rich butthole.
      This is a producer bragging about how he can fire the entire art department and replace them with a random number generator.

      Art departments will be using AI too

      that one actually might lead to something great, let him cook

      If you want to talk about anything it should be my series about AI development

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        have a nice day

        • 4 weeks ago
          guy

          Screenshotting this for emails

          If it wasnt for the art departments and the art he is scraping to "make his model" he wouldnt be able to generate anything dipshit.
          Also have a nice day.

          And if it wasn't for them learning from previous artists, real life, etc. they wouldn't have anything either.

          You know you're real convinced of your beliefs when you're spamming death threats as you "debate".

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Im not interested in debating, Im interested in you killing yourself, thanks for letting me clear that up.
            have a nice day

            • 4 weeks ago
              guy

              I get it, you're throwing a crybaby tantrum over your trans fetish being ruined, you're not saying anything I couldn't predict

              >I hate artists, they need to get real jobs
              The saddest thing about all this nonsense is the morons like you, cheering at the thought of out-of-work artists, oblivious to the fact that the people who will lose out in this new environment aren't going to be the artists you hate the most. The rainbowhaired rich trustfund kiddies will be the ones allowed to remain. The "I nailed a banana to the wall" dudes will do just fine. The ones that are going to be fricked are going to be the dudes coming from poor families who just wanted to make art, but won't be able to make a living at it any more, and won't have mommy-and-daddy money to help

              Please. Only spoiled kids are crying about AI. If this was their actual motivation they wouldn't nuke someone's reputation for playing around with an AI generator

              Poor kids don't have the connections and wealth to cause a ruckus in society instead of doing what it takes to earn a living. You're defending people like the detective Pikachu artist, Arvalis

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Weird thing to bring up trans out of no where, Im just a hellboy fan.
                Anyway have a nice day

              • 4 weeks ago
                guy

                Really what do you like about it, the theme of a demon making the hard choice of renouncing evil despite how easy it is to keep that path? Or you're just saying empty garbage for your tantrum

                I'm going to play a game of sending screenshots of every comment you've made so far and see how that affects your persona

                Isn't this the schizo who claimed viziepop stole his artwork?

                >*Andrew Hussie
                Samegay why don't you address my series about AI development, is it because I conceived it with my best friend who worked on your favorite webcomic Homestuck? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lpcyBYfl36185A6wglfFV-txRuuk3dtu8BtRKJiXVaU/edit?usp=drivesdk can you prove you have more than the most elementary literacy?

                oh god, did this homie have 4 strokes in a row?

                I dont know what reality you live in where concept artists make that much money for 3 weeks of work. Never mind the fact that if anything thats what the person who is made this ai choice is making because hes the president of the company.
                Anyway have a nice day if youre dumb enough to believe the numbers you gave
                Anyway kill yoursel

                Boil I'm going to message industry people 30 times now since that's the justified retaliation for your behavior, enjoy.
                >I dont know what reality you live in where concept artists make that much money for 3 weeks of work.
                I'm sure Arvalis (one of the leading AI haters) was paid big bucks to make pokémon ugly and unappealing.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Really what do you like about it, the theme of a demon making the hard choice of renouncing evil despite how easy it is to keep that path?
                This has never been a plot point of Hellboy. It is quite litterally the opposite case, it has never once been difficult for Hellboy denounce his numerous destinies.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >sending screenshots of every comment you've made so far and see how that affects your persona
                >sending screenshots
                >of Anonymous
                >on Cinemaphile
                /guy/ unless you've got some kind of glowie IP address reader that can automatically locate where we're posting from you may as well be pissing in the wind [that means that you're getting yourself covered in pee because the wind is blowing it back at you]

              • 4 weeks ago
                guy

                I can explain where every word of your comments come from. You're not like me, who comes up with my own ideas, you wouldn't be able to come up with a series about AI development because that violates the rules of your art communities that define your behavior. Those art communities need to be held responsible
                And people attack me for my teenage comments here and on John K's blog to this day

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Isn't this the schizo who claimed viziepop stole his artwork?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            When a human being learns from the works of other artists, they filter what they're looking at through the sum total of their lived experiences and tastes. When an algorithm draws from artists works it has no life experience to filter it through, no tastes, no likes or dislikes. It's just an unthinking math problem waiting for someone to plug in a few values.

            • 4 weeks ago
              guy

              You're assuming that I am advocating for people pressing a generator button and collecting a paycheck

              What I'm actually saying is that it's no different than using a random photograph for your concept work

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dreamworks used AI in kung fu panda 4 and no one cared

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't like the AI in KFP4, but there's a pretty big distinction here.
      They plugged the Chameleon's basic frame into an algorithm and let it produce janky nonsense, using it because it took the basic model they'd made themselves and moved it in disquieting ways.
      I don't like it, I don't respect it, and I think it moved us further along a very slippery slope.
      But it was a very limited and specific use, very different from a producer with no art background hitting the "make me some demons" button because he just doesn't feel like using the great designs from the comics or hiring an artist.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mignola is Liefeld but less talented and more of an butthole

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It brings me great joy to know that every passing day brings us one step closer to Butlerian Jihad.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just a reminder that it was executives that decided the practical effects from the Thing 2011 didn't look cool and replaced all the already shoot scenes with CGI monsters instead.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    RIP art

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Guy showing up in a Hellboy thread
    Every day he isn't raped by Black folk is another day we spend in a godless universe.

    • 4 weeks ago
      guy

      Being this desperate to relieve the anxiety of my threat as a Christian creator (making a story about AI development) shows you're gay

      >Really what do you like about it, the theme of a demon making the hard choice of renouncing evil despite how easy it is to keep that path?
      This has never been a plot point of Hellboy. It is quite litterally the opposite case, it has never once been difficult for Hellboy denounce his numerous destinies.

      I suppose it's more what Mignola would focus on if he was actually great

      oh potentially good then, I still hope ai shills kill themselves since currently there is no ethical way to build or use one of these tools of course.
      That said it means the dipshit president is badmouthing his own movie and team which is moronic

      Your idea of ethics is something nobody besides yourself wants to follow

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Okay? have a nice day.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Okay? have a nice day.

        Seconding.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I suppose it's more what Mignola would focus on if he was actually great
        Hellboy is possibly the greatest portrayal of a christian character in any media

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Glances at twitter
    >The Director is saying "For frick's sake, we didn't use AI, the Producer told people he didn't like a demon then went home and made some on his own computer and went 'cool' because he's a moron, and then he wasn't clear when he talked about it in interview."

    https://aiptcomics.com/2024/04/30/hellboy-the-crooked-man-director-ai/

    Break out the pancakes everyone, Hellboy has dodged being the posterboy for AIslop fricking up a movie.
    For now.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      uhh why are you doubleposting

      [...]

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        An important typo needed correcting.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oh potentially good then, I still hope ai shills kill themselves since currently there is no ethical way to build or use one of these tools of course.
      That said it means the dipshit president is badmouthing his own movie and team which is moronic

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You look at THIS resume

        >Does Yunger have any actual art experience background

        His IMDB is wall-to-wall "Producer" credits, no experience as writer, director, or anything artistic. He did a few "lol, I'm in the movie!" background extra parts, the truest possible sign that he's a rich butthole.
        This is a producer bragging about how he can fire the entire art department and replace them with a random number generator.

        and tell me you're surprised the man's a fricking moron.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Man, it'd really be fricked up if they used AI when adapting a comic by Richard fricking Corben of all people.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We’re back

      This doesn't contradict what the producer guy said. He said he used AI to make a mock up of a monster he preferred. Not that the AI is in the film.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah its contradicting because its misquoted for a completely different horror movie.

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We’re back

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Glances at twitter
      >The Director is saying "For frick's sake, we didn't use AI, the Producer told people he didn't like a demon then went home and made some on his own computer and went 'cool' because he's a moron, and then he wasn't clear when he talked about it in interview."

      https://aiptcomics.com/2024/04/30/hellboy-the-crooked-man-director-ai/

      Break out the pancakes everyone, Hellboy has dodged being the posterboy for AIslop fricking up a movie.
      For now.

      It's Damage Control
      The Offering already came out and the single monster in it want AI
      https://80.lv/articles/creature-design-in-the-offering-creating-the-abyzou-demon/

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's Damage control
        No, it's not. Read Yunger's actual statement.
        While working on The Offering he saw some work being done on a demon. He went "looks like shit to me," then went home, pulled up the Rugurgitron2000, and told it to make demons. And it did! It made so many demons, and he clapped and went "whee! I'm creative!"
        And then in interview he mentioned the experience while saying that he really liked the idea of using AI in movies in future.

        Then REALLY BAD REPORTING resulted in an article turning that anecdote into "There's a ton of AI in the new Hellboy movie."

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is AI still bad if you train it on your own collection of work? Not saying this is case here, but I don't see any ethical issue with that. Quality maybe, but it seems like an interesting use. Saw someone doing it with his own pixel art for some decent results.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There is no training it on your own collection of work unless you have an absurdly large amount, only finetuning it. And a finetuned generator was still fed the work of others.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think it'd work with simple pixel art. Much less complex than other AI art. Plus it takes less than you might think.
        https://imerit.net/blog/how-much-data-do-you-need-for-your-ai-ml-project-all-pbm/

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Plus there's a lot of royalty free pixel art to add to the mix

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If an A.I. does a better job then you at something like this you should probably quit.

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Aichad

    >New Hellboy movie uses AI
    Really? That based!
    >https://x.com/artofmmignola/status/1785472828328038420?s=46&t=vrBEHTqcRx-yIljm9JTNHw
    >Mike Mignola “Here's my take - I knew nothing about this and am just finding out now - not happy about it.”
    Why? Stop being moron!! Adapt or die artgay!

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just want to see a straight adaptation of Seed of Destruction. It would be cheap to make and it sets things up well.

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The craft of reporting is on an all time low

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >So desperate to NOT pull from the source material, the creators are willing to essentially randomly generate characters instead
    lmao

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >And that's why I think it's important for places like film schools to start to learn how to use these tools
    Imagine spending thousands of dollars to study filmmaking only to end up "learning" how to press a button to receive art like some kind of lobotomized lab animal.

    • 4 weeks ago
      guy

      You people are acting like a complete film was received
      Of course it didn't even make it into the Hellboy film so you're not particularly concerned about the truth

      I mean, he apparently did it for the movie he IS talking about.
      This really is the shit we're going to have to be vigilant for, talentless producers trying to make even more money by just cutting out as many creatives as they can.

      Or, creatives can use AI

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >creatives can use AI
        AI is nothing but a crutch for talentless hacks.
        Also, just so we are clear, everything that isn't blood and dirt rubbed on the wall of a cave by hand is also a crutch for talentless hacks. Art peaked in the Neolithic and everything since has just been the deathspiral of true creativity.

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