News on the upcoming ATLA Animated Movie.
The OG Cast has been completely replaced minus Dante Basco cause he's part asian. They got a blind lady to voice Toph.
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There's going to be two other animated films as well. I think one is Korra related and the other takes place in the future
Wonder if they'll get Grey for Azula
Keeping Basco is wild because the homie is a flip not chinese
"All Asians are the same"
It's also why Bautista's in the movie too.
Basco and Batista are both flips
>Bautista is a flip
wait he is??
holy frick I never realized, I always figured he was some mystery meat white guy.
I believe hapa, but Bautista does sound like a Filipino name
Bautista is half Greek half Filipino, Basco is full Filipino
A lot of Filipino surnames are Spanish due to colonization
There are a lot of famous American actors/actresses/singers you didn't know were Pinoy. Remember Vanessa Hudgens who plays Gabriella from High School Musical? She's not a Latina, she's a Filipino. She's Asian all along and no one notices that until they look at her early life on Wikipedia.
Goddamn flips, soon we'll be eating duck fetus and listening to terrible rap music
>She's not a Latina, she's a Filipino
anon, flips are about as asian as a made in mexico samsung refrigerator.
Pinoys see themselves as Asians tho
okay and trannies see themselves as women, what's your point?
shut up, Filipinos are Asians.
You're a sub-mexican mutt, sorry man I don't make the rules.
Filipinos are the true Asians
>not from asia
>genetically closer to brazilians than chinks or nips
>true asians
lol okay pedro
Filipinos are genetically closer to Japanese
sure
>Brazilians
Why are you pulling shit out of your ass? Even the negritos, the super native unhapa'd inhabitants, look like clones of Malaysia. Yeah, we are "mutts". But Brazil isn't one of them.
>Chinese blood
>Japanese blood
>Malaysia blood
>Spaniard blood (white colonists)
But even then, only 2% of the population has Spaniard ancestry. The Mexicans you speak of are rich white people, not Brazilians.
It's in the name south east asian.
Other Asian countries sees them as asian as well
The sun warriors are Mexican but in the fire nation
>The sun warriors are Mexican but in the fire nation
The sun warriors were basically the El Dorado natives, sure they lived on the same landmass as the fire nation, but they were completely isolated and clearly a different culture entirely from the people of the fire nation.
And don't forget the jihab wearing arabs representing the sand bender tribe in the Earth Kingdom
Fire nation aren't Chinese, they're fire nation
Then why do they need to be asian?
Because their culture is based on the Asian Japanese and the Caucasian Indians, it would be culture appropriation for them not to be Asian.
But Dante Basco isn’t Japanese…
Fire Nation is Imperial Japan. Earth Kingdom is Ming Dynasty China.
>Ming Dynasty China.
My poor meme-addled brain autocompleted this to "Ming Dynasty Pussy". Damn you, Confucius.
Everyone says this and they're always wrong. Fire Nation is clearly inspired by Korea.
Doesn't water tribe women wear south Korean hats?
Fun fact The Japanese were originally Koreans who were thrown out for being undesirables and exiled to the island chain. The only reason why they use kanji is a huge "we wuz Jade n sheit" cope to pretend they aren't literally Korea's Australia
So Japan is Korea's Australia?
The b***h they got for Katara is fricking indigenous CANADIAN anon, they don't give a frick as long as morons think they're vaguely the right color.
Stupid moron, the Water Tribe is heavily based on Inuit culture. They are literally textually supposed to be native american northern dwellers.
>Matten was born in Edmonton, Alberta.[1] She is of Red River Métis and Cree heritage through her mother.[1][2]
shut the frick up morons, all they care about is "she's about the right shade of brown". Not a single thing about her heritage or her upbringing makes her a more authentic representation of magic water eskimos than any other random VA would be.
...What did you think the water tribe was? They are obviously native american/inuit
Ah yeah, can you point out those Inuits with blue eyes in real life or are you just imagining and assuming because you’re an idiot?
Do you want to point out the Southeast Asian people with yellow eyes who shoot fire out of their hands you fricking moron?
They're brown skinned people with dark hair who live in igloos in the fricking arctic, what the FRICK do you think they're supposed to be, Samoan?
anon?
They arr rook same.
There's nobody more racist than race-casting producers.
It's only white people who aren't allowed to voice characters of other races. Nobody cares that a black man voiced Samurai Jack.
That depends, Raya the Last Dragon got a lot of shit even though it completely cast POC actors because they were all East Asian even though the whole marketing of the film kept boasting about the setting being based on Southeast Asian cultures, which people saw as Hollywood that Korean/Chinese/Japanese were the same as Filipino/Indian/Thailand.
Avatar can get away with it though because the setting is just all things Asia rather than a specific country or region.
>Nobody cares that a black man voiced Samurai Jack.
Give it time, anon. Enemies of the narrative ran out eventually, and new bad guys are always neceasary.
Sure is convenient that the Fire Nation isn't supposed to be chinese then, huh
Zuko isn't analogous to Chinese.
It's literally this. It's American imperialism even now. You're not Chinese, Filipino, or Japanese, you're "Asian American." Just the same as "African American." "Latin American." You WILL be absorbed under our easy to define and checkbox demographics.
She begs to differ
Didn't Japan raped the Philippines at some point?
WW2
Who hasn't?
That's the irony of this whole thing. You can't have whiteys voice characters of color, but you can have any person of color voice a character of color, because all people of color are the same I guess.
Your american ancestors smile down upon you seeing it all went back around to the
>white
>colored
dichotomy
That's what this new voice acting trend is, though. Whites can't voice certain characters because of their race.
It souds like some ultra white-supremacy dogma
>white blood is so pure and precious that white people are forbidden from even DEPICTING any of the lesser races
Firebenders are Japanese, nobody is casted right
Oof.
Age is catching up to him. Basco is definitely looking like a man in his late 40s now. Them antiaging asian genes isn't working anymore.
He was always the most iconic performance on the show anyway.
They kept Basco because they knew literally nobody would bother to see if if he wasn’t in. He’s pretty much THE Zuko, end of story. And we all know how much everyone had a hard on for Zuko by the end.
Well that is a surprise. They didnt hire a white person pretending to an Indigenous to play Sokka this time.
To be fair, pretending to be a race he is not for personal gain is totally a Sokka move
just like the editor in chief of marvel
>zaragoza
was water tribe supposed to be hispanics this whole time?
Spain may have colonized what is now latam but that doesn't mean there aren't any people of indigenous decent or people who are indigenous. But yeah it's dumb that they seem to be sticking anyone who's native into these roles for "accuracy".
The last actor in that role wasn't native tho. He was a white guy from a fake tribe ran by his uncle. It's a common thing in the US where white people form fake tribes as like a weird hobby cosplay thing or as a way to try to gain land rights. Same thing with the fake tribe that asked Ben and Jerry's to "give" them the land their headquarters are on recently.
It's a very widespread problem in the US and Canada, even moreso in Canada where some of these groups are legit ran by white supremacists and some groups have thousand and thousands of people and regularly try to get legal recognition and treaty rights.
You're not wrong but there's a significant amount of people in latam who are of native decent and a lot of people dont seem to be aware of that because of something as trivial as last names, it's a bit different than the the U.S. and Canada.
>last actor
From the live action? I don't remember anything about an uncle running a fake tribe but that the tribe wasn't recognized or something like that. He looks like he has mixed ancestry at best.
This guy just LOOKS like an unfunny gay so I know he won't have the charisma to carry Sokka
Sokka is a total dork tho. He's perfect.
I can shake off the rest but there is no katara without mae whitman. It cannot be done.
Don't worry, I'm sure the writers will frick up her character writing to the point that there'll be no Katara, nor anyone resembling anybody from ATLA, in this show in any way that matters.
Seriously, if anyone has any faith in anything Avatar ever again after EVERYTHING about it post-ATLA turning to shit, no exception, then you're beyond battered housewife syndrome.
>They made sure to recast for the characters that are a fictional vaguely eskimo inspired race
Something about that is extremely funny to me.
I really want someone to interview her and ask if she ever saw herself playing a character like Toph
underrated
wait.. that's Kimi's VA right?
She’s also Trixie Tang
Doesn't she voice Trixie from Fairly Oddparents? I never knew she was blind.
She plays Trixie? Isn't Trixie white and able to see? That's a little problematic...
I'm pretty sure Trixie is Asian. Her full name is Trixie Tang after all.
Oh Trixie, I was thinking of Cindy's sister. Still, pretty fricking arrogant to play a seeing person when you're blind I mean sight erasure much???
>Isn't Trixie white and able to see?
Trixie and FOP haven't been relevant in ages.
No anon, she's deaf.
all of her scripts were in braille as well. i think that's why trixie was eventually phased out as the series continued
Trixie was something of a occasional character by Season 2 already. She was barely used in Season 3 and largely absent in Season 4.
>We are on the streaming era so catching up is easier than ever. What could go wrong?!
Just watch recaps on Youtube. It's not that hard.
>Indian director whitewashes asian characters
He also brownwashed the Fire Nation.
>Jim Cummings
Better hurry. He isn't getting any younger.
It was a bit in the beginning of Chasing Amy, which was directed by Kevin Smith.
Anti-Chinese laws, WW2 internment camps that detained Japanese American citizens.
>Chasing Amy
Another property that has not aged well
We’ve come full circle
Is this an official comic?
Fanncomic someone played around with the idea of Trixie being a secret nerd.
I forgot FOP used to have a large supporting cast. The later years really whittled down the characters to like 5 people
These Hollywood woketards really felt the need to cast a blind Asian to play the blind Asian cartoon girl. It's all so tiresome.
>the stormout after she gets called out on the double standard of "authenticity"
>none of the original cast, barring Basco is returning
Dead on arrival.
>It's been what, 2 decades since Avatar aired? Their voices are bound to change once they are older.
Which is why keeping the original VAs would've been nice, because the characters are adults too.
>Toph's VA
>had nothing to do with Legend of Korra.
She did voice work for LoK, anon.
You... really don't need a blind VA to play a blind person. Honestly. What do you need a Wheelchair to play a handicapped character's voice? Anyone can be a voice, that's silly.
Blame the guy seething about apu
And also the riots that got so bad they took the fricking indian off the butter. Even though the native girl was invented by a native american artist. Absurdity.
>What do you need a Wheelchair to play a handicapped character's voice?
In today's insane liberal "person voicing the character must BE the character 90%" world? Yes.
Gays gotta play gays. Blacks gotta play blacks. Trans gotta play trans. morons gotta play morons.
But all that can be put aside when they voice a straight white character.
>But all that can be put aside when they voice a straight white character
Wasn't there an Asian VA complaining that he wasn't getting much work as of late because they were only hiring him for Asian-based characters?
>Wasn't there an Asian VA complaining that he wasn't getting much work as of late because they were only hiring him for Asian-based characters?
Maybe? Don't recall that but doesn't seem impossible these days. Was expecting type casting to happen for POC voice actors.
Because there is a huge wave of POC characters in animation as well, all these actors see this as a win-win. However, with time, they will start to feel the weight of the typecasting.
This politically fueled decisions never stop, and thus it will become stricter and stricter.
It won't be able to get stricter unless there's more diversity in asian actors getting into the field
I think it might have been ProZD.
The same guy who played a Robot in Borderlands, a squirrel in God of War, and a random dude in Blackberry?
And a dwarf in Dungeon Meshi
You'd have a point if the history of casting wasn't just casting white actors to play every role.
So the correction of racist casting one way is to be racist in the other way? We gotta "make up" for those years of oppression? How long will that take? Oh wait, it's never enough.
What bothers me the most is that, in another time, Toph's blind actress' casting would have been seen as a match made in heaven and, most probably, a dream come true for the actress, as she would identify with Toph due to their shared condition. Ethnicity would not even be a part of the deal.
Nowadays, even if she is indeed the best person you can cast as Toph due to talent and voice range alone, it is dilluted in all the political typecasting of the movie. You know they didn't cast her due to her talent, but due to being a blind Asian female (that she is a good actress, is just a bonus).
>Nowadays, even if she is indeed the best person you can cast as Toph due to talent and voice range alone, it is dilluted in all the political typecasting of the movie. You know they didn't cast her due to her talent, but due to being a blind Asian female (that she is a good actress, is just a bonus).
It's bad just because there are other asians in the cast?
I didn't say it was a bad casting, only that it is blatantly obvious how the actors' talent is secondary to their skin color, which I think it's sad.
So, I hope they do a good work to show they are more than just a skin color label.
So it would be better if a black actress voiced Toph if she had the talent because her skin has nothing to do with the character?
If she has the talent and voice to provide an adult Toph the best voice? Of course. And this applies to the rest of the cast.
In case my point was not clear enough, I'm sure Dionne Quan will give Toph a great voice. My only regret is that I know she was not casted due to that.
Cartoon sure, but not black washing the characters themselves. Absolutely fricking not
>So it would be better if a black actress voiced Toph if she had the talent because her skin has nothing to do with the character?
If there was some kind of good reason why they needed to recast her in the first place, sure.
But you're ignoring the very important fact that SHE ALREADY HAD TWO DIFFERENT ESTABLISHED VAS AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO RECAST HER. For TLOK it made sense to cast someone new because she was an old fricking lady and the previous voice was for a little kid so if the VA couldn't believably pull off a different version of the character at the new age then sure cast someone who can. But when you have two different choices to voice her in her young adult form, I have a very hard time believing neither of them could pull it off. It's a fricking stunt casting, especially when you consider they're pulling the new chick's career out of mothballs to cast her. I 100% guarantee you that there was just a boardroom meeting where all they did was lay out what restrictions needed to be put on the casting choices for all the characters to avoid offending anyone, and they got to Toph and just asked "well who the frick can we even get who's asian AND blind?" and she was the only name anyone could think of.
>especially when you consider they're pulling the new chick's career out of mothballs to cast her
holy shit, I looked it up. Dionne Quan's last work on wikipedia was an episode of Curious George in 2015? Prior to that she's hasn't been in anything since voicing Trixie in the Wishology movie 2009. (For comparison: Toph's original VA was in two anime and had a Camp WWE role in 2021-2022)
I thought Toph's VA retired so she could go to school?
Not according to her Wikipedia?
On the contrary. The show was going on while she was still in highschool
I meant uni.
Doesnt seem like it. If anything, she left the profession temporally to focus on her studies.
kinda like how i will be doing since i'll have to leave the neet paradise
Blind people are the most hatecrimed race
How do they know it's hatecrimes? What if the people attacking them are smiling the whole time, how would they know?
>looking at the camera
Was she born blind or did she become blind?
Or do blind people pick up the habit of moving their eyes towards people?
Probably just legally blind not totally blind. ie vision is so bad it can't be fixed by glasses but can still see general shapes and stuff
Sometimes blindness is a progressive disability. I cared for a dog who progressed from being legally blind to totally blind in her lifetime.
If momo isn't voiced by a lemur I'm not watching it
Ironically that's a defense that Racebending.com used when they were called out for their hypocrisy about why they were raising such a stink about the shymalan movie but not the mostly white cast in the cartoon.
>their hypocrisy about why they were raising such a stink about the shymalan movie but not the mostly white cast in the cartoon.
Okay so I know this is gonna be hard for you to understand
But voices don't have races
I generally agree. But it's just the world we live in now. 2020 ruined everything and now we're going to keep being pushed towards dystopia by everything. Even our alleged entertainment.
>2020
What happened last year?
I'm aware we're living in moronic clownworld, but my point is that there was no hypocrisy to "call them out on". Live action casting and voice casting are inherently different things, and anyone who can't understand that is moronic and should just shut the frick up.
Honestly, I miss it when animals in movies weren't CGI.
>veteran
>has only appeared as a VA on cartoons
Fricking moronic.
>veteran VA
>has only done VA work
y-... yeah?
Didn't see it coming
>So what was your first impression of Toph when you saw her first appearance on the show?
>They got a blind lady to voice Toph.
Uh is this a joke? Who am I kidding, its America. How long until they cast a clown serial killer as Joker?
A blind Asian professional voice actress who's already established. Honestly this is one of the least dumb of these diversity castings. If anything they got extraordinarily lucky
At least she's got solid VA experience - on Nick shows to boot - do any of the other new actors?
Oh thank god, I was so annoyed at how unrealistic Toph's original voice was - I couldn't hear the blindness from it at all!
When was the last time she was in something? Felt like forever since she voiced Trixie Tang
a quick glance at her filmography seems to indicate she hasn't had a role since fricking 2015
Jesus christ they're so desperate to virtue signal about VA authenticity they're willing to dig a b***h who hasn't worked in almost a decade out of the dumpster for it just because she's the only blind asian in the industry.
She was on Tara Strong's podcast a while back.
This feels like ableist typecasting.
Well it's her first role in almost a decade so I'm sure she'd disagree with you
So the last role was when there weren't so many restrictions on who could voice what, does seem bad to pigeon hole her to voice only blind characters. Guess if there's a new Trixie Tang or Kimi Finster they'll have to recast cause they can see.
>Guess if there's a new Trixie Tang or Kimi Finster they'll have to recast cause they can see.
You joke, but sadly, this is what it is going to escalate to eventually if studios and showrunners keep following this route.
Not sure what the reasoning was, but noticed just now that the new Rugrats did have a different voice for Kimi too.
Probably because before this it seems like she was pretty much retired for the last 10 years.
She wasn’t just no one would hire her she has auditioned for roles numerous times
Source on that? Not saying you're lying necessarily but I'm not sure how you would have that information.
And I thought South Park was a parody of real life
To be honest, I can't see where they're going with this
Holy shit they're actually bringing her out of retirement.
Here's a question, has she ever voiced a blind person before?
No
I don't even mind them searching for underrepresented VAs, but replacing the old cast and promoting the roles like that just feels disrespectful to anyone involved. The job is to be able to create a believable character through their voice acting. I think it's a beautiful thing that VAs are not bound to society's beauty standards or some race ideology. How can you openly promote segregation and pretend it's somehow open-minded and inclusive? It's the exact opposite. Do you know how long we fricking fought for to have the same rights as white people? And those fricking bastards push us back fifty years and get applauded for it? Frick off
>OK Dionne, read your next line
>I can’t see the fricking script!
this is fricking stupid. i hate hollywood so much. the voice actor also has to be fricking blind? So the OG VAs are erased from the franchise. what a fricking joke.
It's not just Hollywood execs, the original VAs are moronic white saviors that refused to reprise their roles "out of respect" for POC.
Source on that? I heard Jack DeSena was willing to be Sokka again in an interview a year ago
The VA for Katara made a tweet about how she will no longer do roles of characters who are POC. She didn't mention ATLA but it obviously was disqualified.
Which is weird because Mae Whitman voiced a dark-skinned character on that King Kong animated show on Netflix (though her ethnicity is never specifically stated).
It's virtue-signaling, anon.
Kataras og voice actor is a wokie. So she turned down returning to the role.
You're so full of shit the OG cast gathered at a con a year ago
So? Going to a con to meet fans is not the same as reprising a role.
>kyoshi is a FN prostitute now
i wrote zuki smut a few weeks ago in a03.
although I am not sure if I left any NTR implications, really
woah am extra moronic today, meant to reply
I feel like this is just a shoot in the foot for the franchise.
most of the voicing cast did an splendid job in TLA and most of them save for the dude for Mako's reeplacement were permanently attached to the characters for most of the fanbase.
To just cut them loose like that is just a total disservice but seeing the path the series took I cannot say that I am surprised, this was getting talked about years ago
Worked for X-Men 97.
Wolverine and friends have got a ton of different Vas.
while the voices from the TLA cast are permanently welded to the characters in the collective unconscious of the viewers.
to have anybody else is a disservice to whatever pile of shit it is they're producing, specially considering that the whole cast reunited again last year
>FINE, I'll wear this shit and give you your sound bites, but we're gonna talk about the movie soon, right?
>Right?
Anon regardless of whether they actually give a shit about that moronic crap, saying that shit is about the only thing they can do to protect their careers from complete implosion at this point. They're already losing out on a ton of role opportunities now because every casting call is hyper-specific about race/gender shit (unless it's a white character then anyone's welcome, thinning their chances out even for those) if they push back against this shit all they do it get themselves social media cancelled and lower their chances of casting directors being willing to associate a project with them.
It's just a lose-lose, it's damage control.
It's exactly that attitude that ensures the problem only ever gets worse for them.
I can't really blame them for looking at a shit situation and deciding they're going to try to still be employable so they don't go broke, it's not like VAs are super wealthy on average and they can just shrug it off if the work dries up.
You're basically feeding a crocodile in hopes that maybe it will eat you last. You'll be out of work anyway in a year or two.
Genuine white saviorism in a money driven industry is rare. VA's didn't magically start caring about this shit 4 years ago organically. They're hedging themselves against aggrieved terminally online mobs the same way execs and studios are.
Are you sure it's that? It only holds weight if they refused the role. If they were told they cant reprise the role then they just say this to save face.
Did they actually mean it when they said it, or did they say it because the alternative is being basically blacklisted while all your peers grandstand and virtue signal about how you're a fricking nazi on social media for good boy points?
Like how when Wendee Lee threw a S H I T F I T on twitter after she was silently recast as Yoruichi from the Bleach dub?
>Did they actually mean it when they said it, or did they say it because the alternative is being basically blacklisted while all your peers grandstand and virtue signal about how you're a fricking nazi on social media for good boy points?
This is what I'm thinking.
Westerners arent attached to VAs and their roles like the Japanese are. They're viewed as very replaceable.
>Westerners arent attached to VAs and their roles like the Japanese are.
Bullshit. John DiMaggio held out returning as Bender until he got a bump in pay.
That's more about it being a sitcom and not about him being a VA.
Most sitcom stars can generally leverage them staying for petter pay, wether animated or not.
Didn't he only get higher billing and not better pay though?
More like Westerners don't have a big of a say against big studios when they get replaced for theatrical movies.
you can thank that fat asian VA for oushing this crap
Hollywood is a joke.
do people still think working on shows is an accomplishment? if you have talent you are better off making your own content
Is mandating "representation" for voice acting inherently a rejection of the medium? Like a lobotomy of creativity that comes with the power of being a fricking cartoon?
What can I say man? After the diet-cultural revolution that was the 2020 riots everyone in america lost their mind. Especially the entertainment industry.
Dante Basco is full Asian
What's it going to take for Hollywood to cut this shit out? Are mutliple studios going to have to go bankrupt?
People have to stop watching. I'm not watching the live action series since it's just ripping off the original.
Total break down. Like everyone going bankrupt.
BlackRock going under. These movies/shows aren't made to sell, they're madr to soak up DIE and ESG funding from BlackRock.
$$$
People really dont give a shit who voice acts who. It's just knock off shit from the George Floyd crap which only got big due to covid.
>What's it going to take for Hollywood to cut this shit out?
Making israeli actors only play israeli characters.
Can they recast Bryke? I don't like this problematic power dynamic of the creators of the series being white
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/exLXfpnzvbY
Honestly have no problem with them replacing the voice of cast. It's been what, 2 decades since Avatar aired? Their voices are bound to change once they are older.
Nah it's for brownie points, the Gaang already has a cast of adult voice actors in Korra Book 1. Saber played Toph during the Book 1 flashbacks
So none of the characters will sound like themselves except Zuko. Thanks wokeoids. You kill everything you touch.
Aang's original VA hasn't been doing voice work since ATLA. Same with Toph's VA who wanted to do other stuff. That's why both of them had nothing to do with Legend of Korra.
Also, Dave Bautista is voicing the main villain.
I love the original show but ATLA has utterly failed as a franchise
this absolutely nothing that came after the original has been good
Goes to show that sequels and remakes are unnecessary.
Korra was good just different
All Avatar from now on is gonna be a shit show
But that's not gonna be the fault of the voice actors
The minori-team is a symptom of the cancer, not the cancer itself, but it's still completely fricking absurd
I get what they're trying to do by giving POC these roles and giving them some excellent lead work on their resumes. But I think it's weird to change their voices now after a decade has past. I'd much prefer they just keep this type of casting to their new roles in these atla projects.
>Alright let's look at your resume
>You were in... that Avatar movie no one liked
>No not that one, that other one
>Don't call us we'll call you
VA casting doesn’t work like that. Otherwise there would be next to nobody dubbing in the anime industry because a bunch of garbage shows would be in their portfolio
That's basically what they did in the original show after Mako asked Mike and Bryan if they could bring in more asian actors for a show about asian inspired culture. That's how they brought in James Hong and other asian voice actors.
>James Hong
RIP
James is not dead yet. But he's pushing one hundred.
Not yet. He's still a living legend.
Basco voiced Zuko in a Death Battle.
>death rattle
they probably didnt even credit him then
I guess Janet Varney is banned from voicing Korra now. She's white as snow.
That Korra movie isnt coming out until 2029 hell even 2030 or at all
I fully believe that if this movie fails then Nick as a brand is done.
>Nick as a brand is done
I mean, they've got like what, Spongebob?
No you dont get it I mean like done done.
Viacom will straight up change Nick's name to Paramount and keep the 2 biggest cashcows from the now dead Nick era and keep them on their leash
Nick the brand itself is expendable. Everyone who works for Viacom knows it
They already have a Paramount channel on cable; they're not changing Nick's name like they did ViacomCBS.
They could call the channel Paramount Kids. You already have the Paramount Network. This will just be the kid focused network.
Best to have everything under the same name.
Yeah they already replaced her in the video game.
That means the last time Janet ever voiced Korra and received a residual from her was in that Platinum Mix Korra game that played like a worse version of Ninja storm where suspiciously only Korra and Jinora are the only characters in the whole game
She was in Nick All-Star Brawls 1, but got replaced or wasn't called for 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6V2IcsWwi4
The link is the one with the new VA.
Christ, Korra sounds even older and more like a white woman.
She's voiced by jacqueline grace lopez there.
Jesus Christ that's bad
What does Korra sound like there?
Damn, white women look like THAT?
Dante Basco is immortal and his voice hasn't changed in 25 years. The rest of the old VAs sound too old now.
Before you all get too mad, I need you all to comprehend that Avatar ended 15 years ago. Almost none of those people still sound the same, and even if they did, they all have real lives. Except Mae Whitman. Total nonissue.
>nonissue
Except it's totally an issue, the recast is based on race rather than merit, and picking a blind woman for Toph is the most self flaggelating gay homosexual shit out there
this coming from a guy posting a character from the frog show where the MC was brownwashed, we know this game
You sound insane, you understand that right?
Insane, sure. Wrong? Frick no. Take a look at Amphibia's pitch book boyo
Well Capcom did outright admit it today.
Capcom's writing is moronic and the last reason anyone likes their stuff.
Not that Anon but Anne was always dark skinned.
see
In the pitch bible she was white as wonder bread
>brownwashed
Sprig is pink, not brown.
Sprig is his slave name, his original name was Mint. Oh and his sidekick was originally white
was not supposed to be a time skip?
get the old VAs back or frick off.
You mean the kid VAs, half of whom don't even work anymore?
they're not kids. it was 20 years ago and yes. Get them back.
That's not the problem, the stupid shit comes from trying to get people that represent the characters, it's a fricking cancer
Me when I'm trying to voice Daredevil in the cartoon
Nice, now you need the superpowers as well
And from what I can read from the OP, they are adults now? Was the Korra timeskip still using the VAs of the OG series for their adult characters?
If not, complaining about this is forced outrage. You should be asking why they aren't using the VAs used in Korra instead.
Not quite that simple, since they brought back Dante Basco who can't seem to grow up vocally(Must be because of the Rufioh thing)
I am Asian and I find this recasting racist as frick. They literally treat as like we're all the same and replaceable with each other. Also this certainly wasn't a problem with most of the cast they brought back for X-men '97. Also Bosco is STILL voicing Zuko. Non-issue my fricking ass.
They recast Jubilee
With the actress's consent.
Is it really consent if you know you'd be blacklisted from the industry if you reprised the role? They got Wendee Lee in trouble because she voiced Yoruichi in Bleach.
Well.
Guess I'll just have to watch the Latin dub.
Why do we care? It's voices and moreover it's post pubescent voices. It'd be weird for Aang and Sokka to sound the same anyway.
Oh but we keep Zuko's VA, because Dante def sounds like an adult man instead of an eternal-teenager into his 40's somehow?
If anything it would make more sense to keep all the other VAs who have aged up and replace only Dante Basco.
Anyone making the argument that the new cast is being done for any reason but "representation" is being categorically dishonest.
This version of Annie looks tumblr-y generic and bland.
Atleast making her a cute brown thai girl atleast gave her some identity.
Perhaps, but that's not why the change was made.
Wait, Anne was originally white?!
Nah this version is a lot cuter
Hilda-Anne is cute! CUTE!
This is hilarious.
American guy with Thai roots: "So here's my cartoon pitch with a female protagonist in a frog world."
Disney: "Oh, no, no, no. Too white. Say, aren't you Thai? Make a Thai protagonist, then."
In order to avoid cultural appropriation... they culturally appropriated.
Nothing indicates shes supposed to be white there
Yeah nothing except the color of her skin you fricking mong
Yes because asians cant have that complexion moron
>Dante def sounds like an adult man
I mean, most of these characters voiced kids/teenagers and their voices havent 'evolved' except for maybe Toph whose an adult now.
on the other hand why's dante giving voice to a disfigured man, nickelodeon executives should pour oil on his left eye inmediately
I don’t know why the OG cast has to come back to voice ADULT versions of the characters. Unless there’s a flashback or something.
Why not if they can adjust their voices accordingly they have every right to come back
ATLA is a cartoon made by white guys, so rather than it being white voice actors wearing yellow face, is it actually a case of asian voice actors wearing white face? Who am I?
>Who am I?
You're scared.
I'm the dude playing the dude disguised as another dude
Avatar is in a weird spot because it is fundamentally a western series that just happens to have an asian aesthetic, there's a reason why the series never actually took off in Asia. But you can't just cast white actors to play the characters despite them acting like americans in the original cartoon, as the M. Night film learned. But also rehiring the dominantly white cast to reprise their voice roles means Paramount can't take advantage of the "representation of Asian culture" card and it will probably piss off a bunch of people if the asian actors they do hire to play new characters just end up being villains.
>it will probably piss off a bunch of people if the asian actors they do hire to play new characters just end up being villains.
ATLA comics characters will be showing up. So that is not a good excuse.
>So will characters from the comics appear? I heard they were still canon
Yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=FqlIzxQbQ-A&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2F&source_ve_path=Mjg2NjY&feature=emb_logo
Bautista being the villain makes me feel like the movie isn't going to be all that deep. Nothing against Bautista he just tends to play meathead characters
Its part of a series of movies. Fully expect Book 1 to end on a cliff hanger because these Avatar movies are yearly installments.
The movies aren't one story, from the details we got last year one is ATLA, one is Korra, and the next is the far future, so unless they tie them all together Live a Live style I don't know how well things'll mesh
I straight up heard at one point each member of the team was straight up getting their own solo movie
Like I was hearing shit like we were getting a Kyoshi origin movie, an Aang movie, a Zuko movie and then of all fricking things a Korra movie
>Korra movie
AN ANCIENT EVIL HAS AWAKENED
>Korra movie
that will kill this franchise dead. no one is seeing that shit.
Laughing at the idea that the Korra movie is immediately being aired last in the trio of these movies but its there because suddenly Nick has to pretend to care about Korra again when we were there watching that show change hundreds of timeslots then suddenly become exclusive to the Nick WEBSITE of all things
I know you dozy twats love to exist in your own little bubble, but Korra is actually super popular.
Korra went from 4.4 million views on debut to half a million views online after the show was taken off the air
Ignoring all the factors that would've led to that, your basing your opinions on 10 year old information. if you haven't noticed Avatar's had a big resurgence in popularity recently.
They re-aired Korra a few months ago and it didn't do anywhere near ATLA numbers. I'd also be skeptical of the "hype" for a show in a time period when they're promoting a live action show, no shit people are going to talk about it
I could say that going by ratings is fricking stupid since no one watches cable anymore. But that would be me moving the goal posts so I will not say it, you're correct that the numbers are lower.
lmfao
>Nothing against Bautista he just tends to play meathead characters
I beg to differ. I'm tentatively excited. He's usually relegated to meathead characters, even in more "intellectual" pieces like the movies directed by Denis Villeneuve (where he is slightly more nuanced as the android in BR'49), but he always tries just a little too hard. In much of the behind the scenes interviews he clearly yearns to be more nuanced, focused, and complex with his characters. Sure, I have only heard him voice act in a cameo role in Little Demon, but I think Dave Bautista's trying too hard and giving 120% intensity would be perfect for voice acting, because voice acting in general requires being at like 120% intensity of yourself. Bautista's trying too hard demeanor doesn't quite work in live action for longer doses but I think it'd be great for voicework.
>One the greatest and most highly regarded animated works of all time
>Literally everything to come out of the "franchise" after the original show's run has been pure dogshit
Is there any show that encapsulates the phrase "lightning in a bottle" better than ATLA?
Star Wars, Ghostbusters, some others I'm sure.
In the pitch bible, before the ole Iger magic was added. tbqh if I could get my frog isekai greenlit by having the MC wear blackface I'd do it
I really and truly could not possibly care any god damn less if a voice actor looks like, or has the same disabilities as, or has the same strengths as, or resembles their character at all in any way, shape, or form. Are they good at the job? Does their voice sound like a good fit for the character? If yes to both those things, then let's do it. If no to either one, then go frick yourself.
My beef is that race shouldn't matter when it comes to voicing cartoon characters. Imagine nixing a guy who does a perfect voice for the Mad Hatter because he's not a crazy old tanned white guy irl
Exactly. It doesn't matter what the actor looks like, it matters what they sound like. If you sound like a good fit for the character, then voice them. Phil Lamar is a dindu and sounds great as Jack. His voice fits, but he's not yellow. Mako on the other hand, was very yellow, but he wouldn't work as Jack. He did a great Aku though, even though he wasn't a 400ft tall pitch black darkness manifestation.
we really do live in a clown world where it matters what the voice actor looks like but not what the film actor looks like.
frick man
By their logic Darth Vader shouldn't have been voiced by James Earl Jones and Kratos shouldn't have been voiced by Tealc.
People did believe that Darth Vader was black and a racist caricature even all the way back in the 70s when the first film came out.
I have literally never heard such a thing in my life.
>Darth Vader
>Kratos
Anon, those characters are decades apart in terms of conception. Find something else that demands your online rage.
Will it explain why sokka and suki break up? Because I actually want a NTR story like yancha and bulma's love story.
>yamcha and bulma's love story
i thought they broke up because yamcha was going out with a gal behind her back which seems quite OOC for him if you ask me
If memory serves, in the original Japanese, it is said that Yamcha was fooling around with some girls (he was kind of a popular bachelor back in DB), and thus Bulma got fed up and broke up with him (which eventually led to her starting a relationship with Vegeta).
We don't get much info about it, and it does feel as a retcon of him being a cheater. I think a game later filled out the gaps, but it still feels out of character.
I think Yamcha's VA in the OG dub confronted Toriyama about this and the dude just shrugged his shoulders in response.
So let me get this straight, it's blasphemous to pick VAs on race, but in the same breath, just half a year ago, it's ok for ALL VAs to be completely replaced by AI voices instead? Why? Why is a genderless bot given more rights than human beings?
Is Cinemaphile just so low IQ actual monkeys are now smarter by comparison?
Racism and AI can both be bad Anon
Hey moron, there's more than one poster on Cinemaphile you dumb homosexual.
>So let me get this straight, it's blasphemous to pick VAs on race, but in the same breath, just half a year ago, it's ok for ALL VAs to be completely replaced by AI voices instead?
you're absolutely braindead
So, who's voicing the white people in TLA?
Phil Lamar
They're based off the vietnamese aside from their accents so some random asians probably
They should keep the old voice actors and just replace the characters races instead
This is the same autism that encroached the live action. Avatar is not a bastion of Asian representation. It was literally made by 2 white dudes. It’s a fantasy world with Asian elements. You wanna know a character that was explicitly Asian? Fricking Jeong Jeong, accent and all.
It's because he was based on someone Bryke became acquainted with from one of the korean studios.
It’s a result of the post modern atla fandom and the terminally ill twitter folk. Back in the late 00s early 10s race just wasn’t a thought if barely with the show.
Well at least there's no Wakanda in ATLA
So will characters from the comics appear? I heard they were still canon
Hopefully they appear in a zeppelin that explodes
They'll include Mai's new boyfriend
I can't wait to watch Zuko get cucked in Live Action.
Gotta say if this is their attempt at asian representation it's fricking embarassing. None of these people belong to the culture or ethnicity the characters are inspired from.
To be fair Avatar's characters don't have an exact ethnicity to nail down to, it's a boiling pot of all things that look "asian".
The harsh truth is that a lot of characters (especially the mains ones) are just white. Aang, Suki, Zhao, Toph, Zuko and his senpai. You couldn’t convince me otherwise. I’m sure it’s the same for Bryke who created these characters because that’s how self insertion inherently works. Overall it’s still boiling pot, there’s diverse characters everywhere. But anyone claiming every single character as Asian just looks moronic.
I agree with you but they can't just cast white people to play the characters again, that caused a whole controversy with the 2010 movie but then they can't exactly promote the upcoming movie as this fantasy asia setting if the majority of the voice cast is white (except for probably the villain which will make people mad)
Honestly it’s just Sokka and Katara, people want them to be brown like their cartoon counterparts. They could get away with Aang and anybody else being white.
Just bring back the old cast and don't make a hullabaloo about it. Ignore everyone who does. They have the attention span of moronic goldfish.
>Live action
>Hurr durr they HAVE to match the race the cartoon characters were based on or else it's RaCiST!1!!
>Cartoon VA
>Hurr durr they CANNOT match the race of the cartoon characters or else it's RaCiST!1!1!!
Pick one. Not both. Either it shouldn't matter or it should all across the board. Muh opportunist shit cope can frick itself.
Why are you moronic?
>No argument
I accept your concession.
Tell the Nips that they're not allowed to voice majority of the characters in their anime.
>Sokka and Katara are brown
>but they have blue eyes and ties to scandinavian culture
What did Bryke mean by this?
>Scandinavian
This is the first time I've seen inspiration behind the southern watertribe specifically referred to as Scandinavian
It’s a mix between eskimo and viking. The entire world is just a mishmash of what Bryke thought was cool.
But they resemble Inuit people from northern Canada.
They resemble surfer dudes from new jersey.
I always figurer they were some cross between Inuits and Pacific islanders. Outside of blue eyes and boats, they never struck me as particularly Scandinavian.
Too soon since the Netflix so my anger glands are drained, i don't have the energy to argue avatar. Have a nice day Cinemaphile.
The live action was whatever, you know who cares. But this was a perfect opportunity to bring the cast back. I’m surprised Dante didn’t stand up for the ogs. If Paramount of whoever didn’t budge then just give the role up to a random. Seems pointless to not do it with the gang.
Whatever the frick just make them all black. Make me black.
At least Toph's actress has already done voice acting, and with Nick too.
I can't imagine her voicing Toph though. I feel loke she'l go too rough, close to her baby Kimi voice.
This is after a time skip right? I don't see an issue with new voices and Zuko's being the same
Wait did the original VA not reprise their role as Toph in Korra?
Her role.
I'm gonna continue to use they unless I know what their name is
Holy frick the shills defending this... ATLAshills are something else.
The characters in ATLA are all Asians, the world is based on Asian culture. Cope and seethe whitechuds. You have no culture so you cling to ours, losers.
>Suki wasnt in the first piece of promo art
>Suki hasnt been mentioned
>Cast announced, no Suki
its fricking OVER.
She was part of the gaang longer than Zuko! even fricking LoK said she was part of the gaang
Sokka is a sexist joke character who deserves nothing
Tokka bros, we might have a chance.
People think this is a woke thing.
I personally think they are trying to acclimate audiences to the idea of recasting cartoons as a marketable feature so they can give a few buddies some nepo jobs and resell a product back to a single audience multiple times.
They are pretty much already doing this shit with anime dubs.
I would agree if the cast was so obviously solely Asian because "Avatar is Asian".
Even if the intentions are as you described, they obviously are also afraid of the progressive mob coming after them for giving non-Asian VA to Asian animated characters.
That's just so they have an answer as to why the change was even nessisary when audiences understandably ask why the frick they recast anyone in the first place.
The exec needs an alibi when they need to explain why had to make up a job for that Asian chick they are trying to bed.
I remember all the mental gymnastics used to explain why Evangelion needed to be reddubed with new VAs for Netflix, then they just had the original English cast reprise their roles in the Rebuild movies anyways.
Doing something for "woke" reasons and doing it for just marketing are not mutually exclusive. They often align and done in tandem.
stop hiring K-pop
Don't be silly anon, how would the blind lady read the script??
HATE I HATE moronS AAAAAA
Do these people even know what's the point of VOICE ACTING?!
>Aang is a cute twink frickboy and everyone else is hideous
lmao
>Aang is a cute twink frickboy
Finally an accurate live-action Aang
>morons still think the water tribes is native american, when their clothes is literally styled after east Siberian tribes
https://mymodernmet.com/alexander-khimunshin-indigenous-people-siberia/
What no, the northern water tribe clearly has these influences but it isn't as apparent in the south which was brought up in the first place because someone brought up Scandinavia when referring to Sokka and Katara.
It's sad the west doesn't appreciate it's voice actors the same way the east does. I get replacing Aang because his orginal VA doesn't act anymore. It's fricked up they didn't try to keep as much as the orginal cast as possible. Did it all for brownie points. Avatar hasn't even been good since the orginal series. Everything from the Korra, the games, the comic sequel, the live action movies have sucked. I have 0 faith in this project.
>Avatar hasn't even been good since the orginal series.
It's one of those cases where it's a good initial product but fricking sucks as a franchise.
>I get replacing Aang because his orginal VA doesn't act anymore
Except they already had another VA for adult Aang in TLOK who's still active.
I meant replacing Aang's orginal VA in general. Obviously he was already replaced in Korra. Really all these changes are just going to make Korra seem even more out of place. It's kinda impressive seeing the Avatar world implode like this.
let me guess they did this because they dont want non blind people playing blind people, that is so infuriatingly stupid
Frick Kristen Bell a million times over for starting this shit
W-well, at least the movie can't be worse than the comics, right?
Are tenzin and the others coming back as kids?
This movie is set before they have kids. Though some people are speculating Katara is pregnant due to the belt thing she's wearing.
Damn. Tenzin, Lin, and whatever Zuko’s daughter’s name was were the only good things about Korra.
Team avatar isn't fricking asian
Yeah 2/5 of them are inuit.
Yeah, Inuits and native Americans hates the theory that their ancestors were Chinese people who migrated back in the ice age
Technically nobody in the avatar world is asian because there is no asia in the avatar world.
They're water tribe, air nomad, earth kingdom and fire nation in ethnicity.
These cultures may draw inspiration from real world cultures but they are not one to one transplants and shouldn't be expected to be.
/co/'s anger at this is so funny and I can't wait for the Azula recast because it's also going to piss off Grey
already recasted
Oh i honestly can't wait to see adult GAANG with their Korra characterization
>deadbeat neglectfull dad Aang
>girlboss Katara
>moron Sokka who cheated on his wife and died alone
>Toph the independent single mom who don't need no man
This is gonna be humiliation ritual on the level of M. Night Shyamalan movie
>deadbeat neglectfull dad Aang
They're going to be in their early 20s so at most only Kya would've just been born.
>girlboss Katara
She was already like that in ATLA and was barely in Korra.
>moron Sokka who cheated on his wife and died alone
When the frick did that happen? Last I remember Bryke confirmed Suki and Sokka stayed together.
>Toph the independent single mom who don't need no man
Tbh Toph growing up to be a shitty parent and cop who decided to frick off to the swamps is incredibly in character for her.
It doesn't matter if kids are their or not, what i mean is their characters will be unrecognizable from what they were
>She was already like that in ATLA
No she wasn't. She had to EARN her waterbending, even when she did she wasn't the best waterbender, just really good one
In Netflix
Toph had already been voiced by 3 different VA's. NO ONE was complaining back then.
Katie Higgins(Saber's dub VA btw) voiced like two lines of dialogue and of course they had ancient 100+ year old Toph be voiced by someone else.
No one complained because it was a non issue and made sense given the age difference.
You mean that brief flashback where she had two lines of dialogue at most?
And of course she's gonna have a different voice as a granny you fricking mong
Katara
In what universe did she get that characterization from KORRA?
season 1 of atla where she fights Pakku because muh sexist patriarchy keeping womyn down.
Yes I know. That’s why I was confused why that post said it was “Korra’s characterization of the gaang”
touch grass
Season 1 had a lot of that but they stopped once they introduced more female fighters.
Which makes me wonder why they even bothered with the sexism shit back in season 1.
>girlboss Katara
So regular Katara?
>deadbeat neglectfull dad Aang
Was he? I got the impression that his children were just insecure, like Bumi felt inadequate because he was just a normal guy and Tenzin had to carry the weight of both the son of Jesus and the first Airbender born in over a century.
NTA, but if memory serves, Aang was not a bad dad in itself, but as soon as Tenzin was born and show to have airbending he became Aang's favorite and the other two felt they were "left behind".
No.
>neglectfull dad Aang
Eh, fair enough. He kinda dropped the ball as a parent.
Katara
She always was. She just wasn't excessively masculine about it.
Sokka who cheated on his wife and died alone
Yeah, that was pretty gay.
>>Toph the independent single mom who don't need no man
Of all the numerous things to complain about in post-TLA Avatar, how Toph ended up isn't one of them.
Personally I take far more issue with Toph ending up as a cop than as an independent wanderer.
Sokka cheated on Sukki? When did that get established?
Never, really.
if anything, Suki has shown signs of wanting a royal dicking.
this is going to be filled up the wazoo with modern politics. would not be surprised if it's Gaza/Israel type of shit.
Israel and Republic City has a right to exist.
>Yooo, let's release a movie, which in order to to understand you have to have watched a series previously, on cinemas! We are on the streaming era so catching up is easier than ever. What could go wrong?!
Not even Marvel could pull this stunt off and Captain America 4 will also fail for the same reason.
I didn't watch the ms marvel series and this movie made sense because I'm able to just accept that people exist and had their origin story before I saw them for the first time.
Good for you. Most people could not get past the fact that this movie starts just as Ms. Marvel ends, making it a direct continuation. Seats were empty.
You have to genuinely be moronic to not be able to follow what’s going on in marvel movies. They’re literally made so you don’t have to watch everything because they explain what everyone’s deal is in EVERY movie.
MCUtards think the MCUc is some high IQ interconnected web that requires watching everything and pulling details with a fine tooth comb. They unironically say “normies won’t understand the multiverse it’s too complex!” while not realizing that MCU movies are normie slop and even a toddler can understand what a multiverse is. Anyone who says that the MCU is complicated or “too complex” is likely to the left of the bell curve
>You have to genuinely be moronic to not be able to follow what's going on in Marvel movies.
Yes? I totally agree that marvel capeshit is dumbed down. The average movie goer is as moronic as you imply however. If they don't understand everything that is going on from the trailers or if they even suspect they might be missing some information from not watching a show, they lose all interest and skip the movie.
It worked for Star Trek and that shit was like seven seasons long with 26 episodes each that were an hour long.
i tell you what, once minorities have the same employment opportunities and representation in the industry, then I'll drop my complains about white people voicing minorities.
I mean, it's just voice acting, it should be pretty easy to find and hire minority voice actors, right?
>i tell you what, once minorities have the same employment opportunities and representation in the industry
And this nebulous benchmark will be reached... when? Oh yeah, never, because the goalposts for equality are never hard defined or reached, like it's by design
never because they will just change what equality means. it's all based off of vibes and nothing concrete. really this desire for equality is of a religious nature.
I'm a fan of egalitarianism but bottom up, not top down. Just pick the best voice for the role goddamn it
>this desire for equality is of a religious nature.
It's a cult.
frick you, I will hire Jim Cummings and Nolan North to voice EVERYONE, even women.
that's my final offer.
I dislike Nolan North and the Texas Gang's oversaturation too, but the answer isn't creating opportunity by amputating something YOU CAN'T DO in any other medium. Voice acting is magical because anyone can be anything, to restrict race is missing the point
White male incels really crying over some equality again? Glad you’re going extinct lmao
>Indian director whitewashes asian characters
>White creators yellow wash white voice actors
It's a real clown fiesta
Was he the one who decided the race stuff tho?
I doubt he was in charge of casting.
I fricking HATE white chudcels who are raging over reparations casting
This if fixing the world you fricking morons
>reparations casting
>fixing the world
I know this is bait but
>reparations
>Asians are second highest earing race in the America Jews are highest earing
Why would Asians be in need of reparations?
They're poc.
They need to be repaired because they're just a proof of concept?
Definitely some Asian countries would need reparations for all the rape slaves Japan made during the war
I always thought Fire Nation was Imperial Era Japan
being entirely fair, the original cast was also replaced when they appeared as adults in Korra
>eric nam
not watching
>AIRBENDER
>GIVE ME WHAT I WANT
I need Azula in fortnite
Asian bros, we're gonna make it.
Zuko announces he's gay and elopes with Sokka
Would Sokka even want to reprise his role after getting fricked in the ass by Pickle man?
Now now, stop with the blind jokes. Imagine if she saw this thread
There's nothing on here she hasn't seen before.
Yeah I'm not a raging /misc/tard but I can't defend this, it's dumb and will make the movies (yes movies, they want it to be a trilogy) worse. They're making them to pander to nostalgia but that will be undermined if all the voices sound different.
This recent liberal meme that all voice actors need to match their character's identity perfectly is fricking stupid. It's VOICE acting. Nobody knows or cares what they actually look like. It's fine if you want to have more diversity within voice acting on the whole, but you don't accomplish that by making every actor 1:1 with their character, if anything that limits the opportunities for non-white voice actors. Just look at how many roles Phil Lamarr got, and imagine if he was typecast into being 100% a black guy.
I wouldn't be surprised if Bryke also disown this project.
>Yeah I'm not a raging /misc/tard
You are now
No because I'm not a moron so I'm capable of understanding when corporations act in dumb pandering ways without also drinking the culture war koolaid. Just because I think this specific phenomena is dumb doesn't mean I support tax cuts for the rich.
I get it you hate minorities, now go leave
Most people don't know who the majority of voice actors even are.
They don't know their names but they'll notice immediately that everyone has a different voice except Zuko.
It's just a boneheaded decision that will piss everyone off.
>I wouldn't be surprised if Bryke also disown this project.
We still bryke are the magical seal of approval after korra? They've done a good job of downplaying their involvment in that shitfest of a movie with shamatard.
sequels are a mistake.
The most fricked up part is that the ATLA youtube channel has been hosting podcasts of the old voice actors to hype up the upcoming Avatar media, and now almost all of them are recast. I bet they're PISSED.
if they're just finding out, sure, but they had to be in on it right?
I think the fact that all of the original main cast (and mako's reeplacement) reuniting on that convention half a year ago was a hint towards this, but it doesnt look like it
What convention?
They clearly obviously knew. Korra and Zuko were doing damage control, I noticed. When they did podcast episode of Kyoshi warriors. And other times where they talked about voice acting and asian representation.
Its just all so tiring
Can studios just let things end for frick sake?
Thoughts on Azula's new VA?
Literally an upgrade to Grey Delishit, HOLY BASED
This is a way to keep labor costs down isn't it?
Can't wait to hear these characters I like not sound like themselves
Really great
Why can't they let it just die?
The inherent absurdity of trying to cash in on nostalgia while doing all you can to "modernize" it
Do the voice actors even still work? I don't remember Korra, Sokka, or Zuko in anything recently.
Dante Basco mostly does smaller stuff, like independent films about the filipino american experience, and cameos on nostalgia critic.
Sokka plays the lead role in the show the Dragon Prince.
Dante Bisco appears in shit all the time.
No Idea about Korra's VA
Mae Whitman just reprised Roxy in the Scott Pilgrim anime
Bautista getting a role is the one silver lining in this cloud of shit
What are the chances it will retcon 99% of the original series?
Tbh I have no doubt that Bryke were fine with getting Asian/NA voice actors but Mae specifically saying why she won't voice Katara again made that impossible not to do. Also Aang's original VA isn't acting anymore I think.
>Aang had a new VA in Korra!
For when he was in his 40s. He's probably going to be in his 20s. Also Toph's VA is probably fine with it too.
>Marxists ruin everything
Who could have predicted.
DOA
>I CAN'T SEE MY FRICKING LINES
2-D animation will never return to theaters.
so whats next for this franchise?
Scorched material?
>suki wearing red
it appears so m8
>live action reboot
>and also an animated movie
i'm so confused
special place in hell for you Black folk using this as an opportunity to make fun of a blind woman
Yeah i feel bad shes blind and all but its fricking moronic to make it an unspoken rule that you have to be the same race/have the same disability of the cartoon character you voice
STOP MAKING MY POSTS NOT APPEAR GODDAMNIT
>They got a blind lady to voice Toph.
It's so stupid we have to do this now, but I take solace in the idea that dipshit casting directors have to work this much harder now.
Everyone here is b***hing about this so I'm going to be the Cinemaphilentrarian and say I wouldn't mind since most of the cast would be in their early 20s in the film so most of their voices drastically changing from when they were they were kids and teens wouldn't be as distracting, like they already did it in Korra in the S1 Yakone flashbacks.
I am curious though if they'll now have accents
wait, why isn't he a monk?
You think that is the issue? The guy is (or rather, the parents are) Southkorean.
So, the real question is: Why isn't he Tibetan?
I mean, if there is one ethnicity in Avatar that can be identified with almost pinpoint accuracy is Air Nomads as Tibetans.
How come anime seemingly gets a pass
"when it comes to the VA must-match race thing" everytime someone brings it up there ignored or lefties accuse them of being a right wing agitator
Anime is plenty with a sea of crap to choose from. Avatar is only one show
that doesn't answer the question. If VA's need to match the race of the character then most anime dubs need to be voiced by Japanese VA.
They are anime. They are by default already racist, no one is gonna care what the casting director is gonna do since it was built for the ground up not to adhere to American values. It's like caring about the safety of a racist American YouTuber fricking shit up in Japan. The country disowns him
I get casting older voices if the Gaang are going to be older in this, if not there was no point other than virtue signal points
fun fact: everyone on the original show aged after the show ended
Other fun fact: like half of the original voice cast basically retired
Doesn't seem to hold Dionne back.
It's sometimes weird though when a character is supposed to be a grown adult but they still sound exactly like when they were still a kid. That was an issue in Boruto, Naruto is supposed to be like 30-40 in that show and he still sounds like a 12 year old.
Japanese goku has it the worst.